[ANN] TeamRedMiner v0.10.10 - Ironfish/Kaspa/ZIL/Kawpow/Etchash and More

[djm34]

out of curiousity, how do you prevent profiling and dissassembly on codeXL and other ?
would be great if you could share the method

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[kissmarx]

I don't know why. I changed nothing with my cards. No tweaking with the cards. I'm good with the default settings. But every time I use TRM, my pc always says that Teamredminer.exe is blocked from accessing graphics card. I'm using 18.6.1 for my vega 64. If I use other miners, I don't encounter this problem. What could be causing this?

Make sure to exclude .exe file from your antivirus or windows defender and then you will not have problem.

Thanks for responding but I already had exclusions for TRM. That's why I wonder what caused this because I don't have this problem if I use other miners.

TRM will often push the GPU hardware harder than other miners.  A lot of stock voltages/clocks on cards are very aggressive and can result in cards overheating.
Have you looked at temps when you run the miner compared to other miners?  Have you tried undervolting or lowering clocks?

Thanks for your suggestion. But undervolting only made it worst. It gave my rig a bsod. Windows cannot repair it. So I had to reset.

[ku4eto]

I don't know why. I changed nothing with my cards. No tweaking with the cards. I'm good with the default settings. But every time I use TRM, my pc always says that Teamredminer.exe is blocked from accessing graphics card. I'm using 18.6.1 for my vega 64. If I use other miners, I don't encounter this problem. What could be causing this?

Make sure to exclude .exe file from your antivirus or windows defender and then you will not have problem.

Thanks for responding but I already had exclusions for TRM. That's why I wonder what caused this because I don't have this problem if I use other miners.

TRM will often push the GPU hardware harder than other miners.  A lot of stock voltages/clocks on cards are very aggressive and can result in cards overheating.
Have you looked at temps when you run the miner compared to other miners?  Have you tried undervolting or lowering clocks?

Thanks for your suggestion. But undervolting only made it worst. It gave my rig a bsod. Windows cannot repair it. So I had to reset.

For CN, you can lower core clocks by 150Mhz probably and not lose significant performance. And then you lower the core voltage accordingly.

[netmebtc]

@todxx, Hello, When will TRM support turtle's new algo "chukwa"  and loki's new algo "RandmXL"?

[kerney666]

@todxx, Hello, When will TRM support turtle's new algo "chukwa"  and loki's new algo "RandmXL"?

Hi! We're currently working on other algos. For Turtle, we might take a swing at chukwa at some point. For Loki, and any other RandomX-derived algo, I don't see us spending the time, there's no point producing gpu code that no one would run.

[Iamtutut]

@todxx, Hello, When will TRM support turtle's new algo "chukwa"  and loki's new algo "RandmXL"?

Hi! We're currently working on other algos. For Turtle, we might take a swing at chukwa at some point. For Loki, and any other RandomX-derived algo, I don't see us spending the time, there's no point producing gpu code that no one would run.

Rondom X will be used by many coins: Monero; Graft (GRFT) is considering, Triton-SAO (XTRI) is considering and others will follow.

For Turtlecoin and its algo, it shouldn't be forgotten that TRTL is the 3rd most forked CN coin (After Bytecoin and Monero), so smaller projects should also adopt chukwa.

[kerney666]

@todxx, Hello, When will TRM support turtle's new algo "chukwa"  and loki's new algo "RandmXL"?

Hi! We're currently working on other algos. For Turtle, we might take a swing at chukwa at some point. For Loki, and any other RandomX-derived algo, I don't see us spending the time, there's no point producing gpu code that no one would run.

Rondom X will be used by many coins: Monero; Graft (GRFT) is considering, Triton-SAO (XTRI) is considering and others will follow.

For Turtlecoin and its algo, it shouldn't be forgotten that TRTL is the 3rd most forked CN coin (After Bytecoin and Monero), so smaller projects should also adopt chukwa.

Unfortunately, the nr of projects using an algo is irrelevant when the returns on a Vega 64 are -90% of a Ryzen 3900x, and just wait for the next gen Threadripper... Instruction caches are blown up, SIMD parallelism is close to impossible to utilize, caches are much too small to support the chosen L1/L2/L3 hierarchy, just to mention three major mismatches between the algo and how a GPU is constructed. People need to stop dreaming about RandomX on gpus.

[Iamtutut]

@todxx, Hello, When will TRM support turtle's new algo "chukwa"  and loki's new algo "RandmXL"?

Hi! We're currently working on other algos. For Turtle, we might take a swing at chukwa at some point. For Loki, and any other RandomX-derived algo, I don't see us spending the time, there's no point producing gpu code that no one would run.

Rondom X will be used by many coins: Monero; Graft (GRFT) is considering, Triton-SAO (XTRI) is considering and others will follow.

For Turtlecoin and its algo, it shouldn't be forgotten that TRTL is the 3rd most forked CN coin (After Bytecoin and Monero), so smaller projects should also adopt chukwa.

Unfortunately, the nr of projects using an algo is irrelevant when the returns on a Vega 64 are -90% of a Ryzen 3900x, and just wait for the next gen Threadripper... Instruction caches are blown up, SIMD parallelism is close to impossible to utilize, caches are much too small to support the chosen L1/L2/L3 hierarchy, just to mention three major mismatches between the algo and how a GPU is constructed. People need to stop dreaming about RandomX on gpus.

Not even starting to consider GPU for Random-X, maybe I confused you. My bads. Point is, integrate Random-X fur CPUs because a lot of projects will switch to it.

[kerney666]

@todxx, Hello, When will TRM support turtle's new algo "chukwa"  and loki's new algo "RandmXL"?

Hi! We're currently working on other algos. For Turtle, we might take a swing at chukwa at some point. For Loki, and any other RandomX-derived algo, I don't see us spending the time, there's no point producing gpu code that no one would run.

Rondom X will be used by many coins: Monero; Graft (GRFT) is considering, Triton-SAO (XTRI) is considering and others will follow.

For Turtlecoin and its algo, it shouldn't be forgotten that TRTL is the 3rd most forked CN coin (After Bytecoin and Monero), so smaller projects should also adopt chukwa.

Unfortunately, the nr of projects using an algo is irrelevant when the returns on a Vega 64 are -90% of a Ryzen 3900x, and just wait for the next gen Threadripper... Instruction caches are blown up, SIMD parallelism is close to impossible to utilize, caches are much too small to support the chosen L1/L2/L3 hierarchy, just to mention three major mismatches between the algo and how a GPU is constructed. People need to stop dreaming about RandomX on gpus.

Not even starting to consider GPU for Random-X, maybe I confused you. My bads. Point is, integrate Random-X fur CPUs because a lot of projects will switch to it.

No worries, I misunderstood. Right now the focus is on finding other profitable setups for AMD GPUs though, after that we'll see.

[boogiepop]

Tested MTP with my vega56s. It is quite scalable with heat and power. Not the best option for vega but for low end hardwares like RX550 and RX460 it can be profittable? Anyone tried it it? just curious.

Edit: Sorry wrong thread..

[kerney666]

Tested MTP with my vega56s. It is quite scalable with heat and power. Not the best option for vega but for low end hardwares like RX550 and RX460 it can be profittable? Anyone tried it it? just curious.

Edit: Sorry wrong thread..

We have a release ready with +2-3% hashrate while also doing -10W vs -4W per gpu for Polaris vs Vega. That makes it a little more sexy for 580s. Still a resource hog though .

For 550/460s, there isn’t much to test, you need more than 4GB to run the algo.

[issie81]

Doc,

Is there any reason why CNR is close to 10c hotter then CN Haven?
clock speeds same on same machine when i switch to CNR the temps are close to 10c hotter

[kerney666]

Doc,

Is there any reason why CNR is close to 10c hotter then CN Haven?
clock speeds same on same machine when i switch to CNR the temps are close to 10c hotter

(1) If you wrote "Doc" because you meant to post in SRB's channel, the issue is that you're running the wrong miner if you care about power draw and efficiency.

(2) A general note that applies to all miners: the transitions from CNv1 to CNv8 to CN/r have added more and more computations to the main loop. CNv8 added a square root and a division, CN/r went further and replaced it with a string of random operations with a lot of multiplications that chew up cycles on gpus, but this work is still only related to two read/write mem accesses as in the original CN algorithm. The Heavy/Saber main loop adds a third mem access and a single division. The main loop is > 90% of the runtime, and the differences between the CN/r and Haven main loops are enough to push the power consumption significantly. The important factor is the amount of computational work necessary per mem access.

[PIOUPIOU99]

Summer version low energy low T°:

*RX470-480-570-580
*AMD Memory Tweak : Refresh Rate : 30 Hynix - 10 Micron - 10 Samsung ,gain + ou- 30 h/s
by gpu   .

-1000/800-1700/800  
-790h/s 4GB  - 1030h/s  8Gb (gpu 3/6/10)

11 rx 470-580 : 900 - 950watt    

[hmgp]

Hi guys.

Is anyone using teamredminer for XHV?

Tried to, and it connects, but pool does not accept shares. Maybe I just have to replace cnr with something else on the bat file?

On a different note, I have a MSI airboost vega 56 that's getting way too hot and dying. Miner tries to execute the watchdog script to reboot but says it's not a valid script... any tips on getting this particular vega stable and the watchdog running ok?

Already lowered clocks to get it cooler, but often the miner says the gpu is dead...

Thanks in advance!

[Iamtutut]

teamredminer.exe -a cn_haven -o stratum+tcp://YOURPOOL -u YOURWALLET -p YOURMINER --platform=0 --init_style=3 -d 0,1,2,3 (I have 4 GPUs) --cn_config 7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB,7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB (best config for my RX570s)

[hmgp]

Thanks man! Working properly 

teamredminer.exe -a cn_haven -o stratum+tcp://YOURPOOL -u YOURWALLET -p YOURMINER --platform=0 --init_style=3 -d 0,1,2,3 (I have 4 GPUs) --cn_config 7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB,7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB (best config for my RX570s)

[livada]

Thanks man! Working properly  

teamredminer.exe -a cn_haven -o stratum+tcp://YOURPOOL -u YOURWALLET -p YOURMINER --platform=0 --init_style=3 -d 0,1,2,3 (I have 4 GPUs) --cn_config 7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB,7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB (best config for my RX570s)

how this work properly for you? you have vega card.this setings have to small HR for vega.

try this : 16+14:AAA or  15+15:CBB

teamredminer.exe -a cn_haven -o stratum+tcp://YOURPOOL -u YOURWALLET -p YOURMINER --platform=0 --init_style=3 -d 0,1,2,3 (I have 4 GPUs) --cn_config 16+14:AAA,16+14:AAA,16+14:AAA,16+14:AAA

[Iamtutut]

Thanks man! Working properly  

teamredminer.exe -a cn_haven -o stratum+tcp://YOURPOOL -u YOURWALLET -p YOURMINER --platform=0 --init_style=3 -d 0,1,2,3 (I have 4 GPUs) --cn_config 7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB,7+7:CBB,7+7:CAB (best config for my RX570s)

how this work properly for you? you have vega card.this setings have to small HR for vega.

try this : 16+14:AAA or  15+15:CBB

teamredminer.exe -a cn_haven -o stratum+tcp://YOURPOOL -u YOURWALLET -p YOURMINER --platform=0 --init_style=3 -d 0,1,2,3 (I have 4 GPUs) --cn_config 16+14:AAA,16+14:AAA,16+14:AAA,16+14:AAA

My config is for RX570s after auto tuning with 0.5.3 version, Vegas use different settings because they are much more powerfull.

[PIOUPIOU99]

My vega 56 & 64 are CN-R, for Heavy is good vs 580 8GB ?
thx.