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iDisturbia
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For miners that don't fully trust the displayed hashrate or that the communicated dev fee is correct, I would argue that the best way to verify poolside/dev fee hashrate is with fake pool hacks, much like the one we built ourselves for ethash, available on my github. It sets a low diff, the miner you want to test submits many many more shares compared to a normal pool, and after maybe 12h you have a very accurate picture of the "poolside" hashrate of the miner you're testing because you'll have submitted 500,000 shares by then and get a much much more accurate data point than looking at a 6h or 24h average on some pool for 1000 submitted shares (which really means nothing tbh). [/quote] I had better idea to prove my findings .... tested the hacked releases of 2 VERY popular ETH mining softwares and noticed my hash rates went up almost double compare with using the original ones! Shocking, eh!! |
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kerney666
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May 20, 2020, 01:56:02 PM |
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For miners that don't fully trust the displayed hashrate or that the communicated dev fee is correct, I would argue that the best way to verify poolside/dev fee hashrate is with fake pool hacks, much like the one we built ourselves for ethash, available on my github. It sets a low diff, the miner you want to test submits many many more shares compared to a normal pool, and after maybe 12h you have a very accurate picture of the "poolside" hashrate of the miner you're testing because you'll have submitted 500,000 shares by then and get a much much more accurate data point than looking at a 6h or 24h average on some pool for 1000 submitted shares (which really means nothing tbh). I had better idea to prove my findings .... tested the hacked releases of 2 VERY popular ETH mining softwares and noticed my hash rates went up almost double compare with using the original ones! Shocking, eh!! [/quote] Yeah, sounds a little weird tbh. Therefore, I'm happy to make you a public bet for 1 BTC with a known escrow that you're full of shit, care to take me up on it? You provide your magic hacked software that produces 58-62 MH/s on a Polaris card or 95-100 MH/s on a Vega 56/64, hashrate is then verified statistically by a 3rd party for a test with approx 1 million submitted shares to get the bounds on the Poisson distribution within reasonable bounds, then the escrow pays out? Would love to make an easy 1 BTC. |
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scryptr
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May 20, 2020, 03:47:25 PM |
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FAKE HASHRATE--
It is possible with several ETH mining softwares to produce a console-reported hashrate that is an artifact, an unreal number. It merely takes a faulty configuration string for the miner to produce this untrue hashrate number.
I have 2 brand new Navi 5700 XT cards, and several older Vegas. I had my Vegas and Navis (both un-modded) reporting 58+ MH/s for ETH.
However, the effective hashrate at the pool was perhaps 2/3 of the console-reported hashrate, or less. The miners were producing high numbers of incorrect shares. A carefully edited screencap would show an amazing, but untrue, hashrate report.
I have, however, tuned my Navi cards to about 0.58+MH/Watt for ETH, and I am still tweaking. Very few rejects, approximately 53MH/s per card, and stable for days. No BIOS mods and no hacks, just tuning. --scryptr
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kerney666
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May 20, 2020, 03:54:03 PM |
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FAKE HASHRATE--
It is possible with several ETH mining softwares to produce a console-reported hashrate that is an artifact, an unreal number. It merely takes a faulty configuration string for the miner to produce this untrue hashrate number.
I have 2 brand new Navi 5700 XT cards, and several older Vegas. I had my Vegas and Navis (both un-modded) reporting 58+ MH/s for ETH.
However, the effective hashrate at the pool was perhaps 2/3 of the console-reported hashrate, or less. The miners were producing high numbers of incorrect shares. A carefully edited screencap would show an amazing, but untrue, hashrate report.
I have, however, tuned my Navi cards to about 0.58+MH/Watt for ETH, and I am still tweaking. Very few rejects, approximately 53MH/s per card, and stable for days. No BIOS mods and no hacks, just tuning. --scryptr
Yeah, it was interesting to observe all the early attempts of maxing out Navis using 128 for workgroup size which just caused a ton of invalid hashes proportionally to the hashrate increase. Hashes got merged and simply accessed the same memory locations, hence the increased hashrate due to better cache utilization, at least that's my take on it. It was never real to begin with, and you'd have thought the developers of the miners used could have been more clear about what was going on... |
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pbfarmer
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May 20, 2020, 07:57:35 PM |
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For miners that don't fully trust the displayed hashrate or that the communicated dev fee is correct, I would argue that the best way to verify poolside/dev fee hashrate is with fake pool hacks, much like the one we built ourselves for ethash, available on my github. It sets a low diff, the miner you want to test submits many many more shares compared to a normal pool, and after maybe 12h you have a very accurate picture of the "poolside" hashrate of the miner you're testing because you'll have submitted 500,000 shares by then and get a much much more accurate data point than looking at a 6h or 24h average on some pool for 1000 submitted shares (which really means nothing tbh). I had better idea to prove my findings .... tested the hacked releases of 2 VERY popular ETH mining softwares and noticed my hash rates went up almost double compare with using the original ones! Shocking, eh!! [/quote] Why are you even here - whats your goal? You’re constantly spreading completely baseless BS, and clearly have no clue on how to tune GPUs/miners. Go away troll. |
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iDisturbia
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May 20, 2020, 08:50:15 PM |
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For miners that don't fully trust the displayed hashrate or that the communicated dev fee is correct, I would argue that the best way to verify poolside/dev fee hashrate is with fake pool hacks, much like the one we built ourselves for ethash, available on my github. It sets a low diff, the miner you want to test submits many many more shares compared to a normal pool, and after maybe 12h you have a very accurate picture of the "poolside" hashrate of the miner you're testing because you'll have submitted 500,000 shares by then and get a much much more accurate data point than looking at a 6h or 24h average on some pool for 1000 submitted shares (which really means nothing tbh). I had better idea to prove my findings .... tested the hacked releases of 2 VERY popular ETH mining softwares and noticed my hash rates went up almost double compare with using the original ones! Shocking, eh!! Yeah, sounds a little weird tbh. Therefore, I'm happy to make you a public bet for 1 BTC with a known escrow that you're full of shit, care to take me up on it? You provide your magic hacked software that produces 58-62 MH/s on a Polaris card or 95-100 MH/s on a Vega 56/64, hashrate is then verified statistically by a 3rd party for a test with approx 1 million submitted shares to get the bounds on the Poisson distribution within reasonable bounds, then the escrow pays out? Would love to make an easy 1 BTC. [/quote] Save your 1 BTC ... just share the code in that source folder you created in github! |
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iDisturbia
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May 20, 2020, 08:52:18 PM |
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Why are you even here - whats your goal? You’re constantly spreading completely baseless BS, and clearly have no clue on how to tune GPUs/miners.
Go away troll.
Truth shall set us all free - share your source code to prove I’m full of shit! |
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N2DCRYPT
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May 20, 2020, 09:05:53 PM |
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Why are you even here - whats your goal? You’re constantly spreading completely baseless BS, and clearly have no clue on how to tune GPUs/miners.
Go away troll.
Truth shall set us all free - share your source code to prove I’m full of shit! Tbh, you're a nobody--and the devs that work on this miner are too busy producing software that this community values to have to prove anything about you one way or another. So go spout your nonsense elsewhere; you're polluting a thread that's useful to me and diluting other member's worthwhile commentary with your bs. But, thanks for getting to what you're really looking for, free code for nothing, probably to remove the well-earned devfee. |
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pbfarmer
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May 20, 2020, 10:16:52 PM |
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Why are you even here - whats your goal? You’re constantly spreading completely baseless BS, and clearly have no clue on how to tune GPUs/miners.
Go away troll.
Truth shall set us all free - share your source code to prove I’m full of shit! a) I’m not one of the devs - I’ve just been using this software for >1.5 yrs now, and the devs competence and trustworthiness have been more than proven at this point, unlike yourself. b) if you don’t want to use closed source software- that’s a reasonable position. So go use something else and keep your BS allegations to yourself until/unless you have some proof. |
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todxx (OP)
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May 22, 2020, 07:24:57 AM |
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Hi! Has anyone tried POLARIS? On RX488, RX478 the hashrate is lower on the new version 0.7.1 by 0.7 from small rig. Please tell me how to fix it. Win_10 Adrenalin_18.6.1 TRM_0.6.1  TRM_0.7.1  Hi primavera8989, One of the changes that we forgot to mention is that we do not use the B mode for polaris 8GB gpus by default starting in v0.7.0. To get the miner to use the B mode again you can add the following option: --eth_config=B |
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May 24, 2020, 08:55:41 PM |
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For miners that don't fully trust the displayed hashrate or that the communicated dev fee is correct, I would argue that the best way to verify poolside/dev fee hashrate is with fake pool hacks, much like the one we built ourselves for ethash, available on my github. It sets a low diff, the miner you want to test submits many many more shares compared to a normal pool, and after maybe 12h you have a very accurate picture of the "poolside" hashrate of the miner you're testing because you'll have submitted 500,000 shares by then and get a much much more accurate data point than looking at a 6h or 24h average on some pool for 1000 submitted shares (which really means nothing tbh). I had better idea to prove my findings .... tested the hacked releases of 2 VERY popular ETH mining softwares and noticed my hash rates went up almost double compare with using the original ones! Shocking, eh!! Yeah, sounds a little weird tbh. Therefore, I'm happy to make you a public bet for 1 BTC with a known escrow that you're full of shit, care to take me up on it? You provide your magic hacked software that produces 58-62 MH/s on a Polaris card or 95-100 MH/s on a Vega 56/64, hashrate is then verified statistically by a 3rd party for a test with approx 1 million submitted shares to get the bounds on the Poisson distribution within reasonable bounds, then the escrow pays out? Would love to make an easy 1 BTC. Save your 1 BTC ... just share the code in that source folder you created in github! [/quote] Nobody owes you anything. |
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primavera8989
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May 26, 2020, 05:39:21 AM |
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Hi primavera8989, One of the changes that we forgot to mention is that we do not use the B mode for polaris 8GB gpus by default starting in v0.7.0. To get the miner to use the B mode again you can add the following option: --eth_config=B Thanks. Everything's fine. |
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todxx (OP)
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May 26, 2020, 08:33:21 AM |
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Team Red Miner v0.7.2 releasedhttps://github.com/todxx/teamredminer/releasesChanges in v0.7.2 - Fixed kawpow dag build DEAD gpu issue on windows Adrenalin 2020 drivers.
- Fixed Navi 5600(xt) support on windows.
- Fixed mining on Vegas on older amdgpu-pro drivers.
- Fixed ADL reporting of stats on windows for newer cards.
This release is mostly another round of bug clean-up for various driver issues users have been reporting. We've also added a kawpow tuning guide to help new users tune GPUs on kawpow.
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ZombieWorm
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May 26, 2020, 08:40:29 PM
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Team Red Miner v0.7.2 releasedChanges in v0.7.2 - Fixed kawpow dag build DEAD gpu issue on windows Adrenalin 2020 drivers.
Awesome pal will try this out! Might be my config, but it looked good for a couple of minutes then the power at wall meter dropped the load - soon to be followed by the dreaded 'dead' red text. Will try it at stock settings again and see later.  |
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kerney666
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May 27, 2020, 08:34:30 AM |
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Team Red Miner v0.7.2 releasedChanges in v0.7.2 - Fixed kawpow dag build DEAD gpu issue on windows Adrenalin 2020 drivers.
Awesome pal will try this out! Might be my config, but it looked good for a couple of minutes then the power at wall meter dropped the load - soon to be followed by the dreaded 'dead' red text. Will try it at stock settings again and see later. Are you running a monitor on that gpu? Currently that means you'll have to tune down the config manually, but we're about to add code for detecting and adjusting that automatically. The Windows TDR timeout can also still be bitchy at times, I'm about to run more tests on that today and add automatic behavior for that too. |
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ALEX_RAA
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May 27, 2020, 10:49:04 AM |
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Hi all Is it mean that ETC on 4gb cards is over? https://ibb.co/CPGR0qjrig (4x570 4gb) internal graphic card is used (no monitor emulation) 4gb RAM pagefile 50gb win10 p.s. if i start to ETH - it's generating dag file correctly |
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kerney666
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May 27, 2020, 01:13:23 PM |
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Team Red Miner v0.7.3 releasedhttps://github.com/todxx/teamredminer/releasesChanges in v0.7.3 - Emergency patch for 4GB cards to handle a few more ETC epochs. A more complete patch is coming out shortly.
We will take the time to squeeze out as many epochs possible in an upcoming release. We'll also provide the specific epoch we expect the miner to work with for that release. Note: I can't update the topic for now, todxx will take care of it as soon as he comes online.
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kerney666
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May 27, 2020, 01:14:01 PM |
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Hi all Is it mean that ETC on 4gb cards is over?  rig (4x570 4gb) internal graphic card is used (no monitor emulation) 4gb RAM pagefile 50gb win10 p.s. if i start to ETH - it's generating dag file correctly Hi, see the post above, 0.7.3 will handle a few more epochs, then we'll release 0.7.4 with a better fix. |
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