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November 06, 2018, 05:05:49 PM
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And you don't think you can compete with Kucoin or Binance, do you?

Since when Kucoin is still relevant or am I am missing sth?

As for the project, look nice but I do not quite understand how Forex and crypto brokers will work together?! I guess I should read WP one more time...

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Karina from the Jarvis team here. What do you mean exactly?

Do you mean what the benefits are or how technically it will work?


The benefits I understand, the technical part is that I have questions about. Thank you for the response:)

To understand more about Jarvis it is helpful to review a little of how the FX market works. With FX either the  broker or the prime broker has an account with a liquidity provider, which provides the Forex liquidity. When you deposit money into the broker account, the most brokers will take some  funds and  put them in a centralized USD pool, and the broker will open a mirrored trading account in USD in your trading platform (let say, it is MT4). So the money you see in MT4 is the mirror of the money you have deposited in the banking account of the broker. When you take a trade, you make a loan within the liquidity of the broker. You trade with their money, and a leverage.

So Jarvis does the same : we open an account within a Forex Liquidity provider (not a broker). As example, 1 million USD deposit. But instead of depositing money in a banking account, you deposit it in your wallet.

From your wallet, either you have fiat (let say 10 000 USD) or you have another asset (let's assume few Bitcoins). When you trade FX, we will lock your money (either the 10k USD or the BTC you have) into an escrow. Then, a loan is triggered in the liquidity pool connected to the Forex liquidity provider. You can now trade Fx without a broker, directly from your wallet.

I hope it answers your question Smiley

There is a drawing on the whitepaper, by the way, to explain a bit how things are structured.

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November 06, 2018, 07:35:51 PM
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The project seems good, if it is all it makes out to be.
I have several questions.

1. When is the bounty going to launch?
2. You say you have different/ better user experience than others. What is it about your UX and design that makes you better?
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November 06, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
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Hi DEV.
I'm discovering this project and I have to say it aroused my curiosity... But there is one point I would like to clarify before going further.

Your ANN says "20% of revenues are shared among every token holder and an additional 5% among the original TGE participants."

20% to 25% of revenues looks insane to me... How can it be financially viable?

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20% of the revenues is not something that important; some brokers, as example have a marketing budget around 20%, and their user acquisition cost is very high.

3 points deserve to be highlited here :

1. Mind that the company will manage a pool of 50M tokens and the DAO will manage a pool of 30M. These pools will be used to drive user acquisition and will then replace the need of conducting a classical marketing campaign. To drive user acquisition, there will be some ongoing bounty campaign / contest such as : the 10 users who have brought the most of new users through their referral link; these 10 users will share the monthly prize pool; or it could be the 10 developers whose add-on are the most downloaded this month.

Having these contests / ongoing bounty campaigns will incentivize these developers, or these users to commit even more, because they will become stakeholder and receive more revenus per token if the ecosystem keep growing, or just more revenue by growing their token stacks.


2. As the pools have 50M and 30M tokens (12% and  7% of all the tokens) they will also receive, like any token holders, a part of the revenue. In that case it will be 12% and 7% of the 20%. These revenues can be used for classical marketing campaign or can be used to buy back tokens from exchanges, to refill the pools, until the moment these pools will definitely be empty. So as you see there is some virtue circle.


3. An exchange does not need millions per month to be run efficiently. Even by giving away 40 or 60% of an exchange revenue, you might end up to be still profitable. This is why people are very interested to buy tokens distributing the exchanges revenues. Exchanges are the most valuable piece in this ecosystem. They can generate a lot of revenue.


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November 06, 2018, 10:39:38 PM
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The project seems good, if it is all it makes out to be.
I have several questions.

1. When is the bounty going to launch?
2. You say you have different/ better user experience than others. What is it about your UX and design that makes you better?


1. Our bounty campaign will be divided into two : one starting very soon (you can suscribe to our newsletter on our website https://www.jarvis.exchange/, endowed with 10M tokens (worth 1M USD), and one which will start few weeks after the completion of the ICO for the launch of our first products (with 10M also).

2. Hundreds of feedbacks, years of work. We started to design trading widget for MT4 back in 2014. We switch then in 2017 to design trading interface. We launch a first prototype in France which was quite a success for us. What makes our UX different is that we are focusing on easing every task, steps, and providing pleasure. There is real pleasure when you are using a tool very well design. Our users were saying : we will never be able to go back to another trading platform. We applied the same method, the same vision, the same iteration, to the design of Jarvis. We do not do a user-friendly interface. We do a user-centric design, we provide an experience.

We will publish soon a video of the prototypes of the trading interfaces.

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November 07, 2018, 08:49:49 AM
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Hi DEV.
I'm discovering this project and I have to say it aroused my curiosity... But there is one point I would like to clarify before going further.

Your ANN says "20% of revenues are shared among every token holder and an additional 5% among the original TGE participants."

20% to 25% of revenues looks insane to me... How can it be financially viable?

Hello Smiley

20% of the revenues is not something that important; some brokers, as example have a marketing budget around 20%, and their user acquisition cost is very high.

3 points deserve to be highlited here :

1. Mind that the company will manage a pool of 50M tokens and the DAO will manage a pool of 30M. These pools will be used to drive user acquisition and will then replace the need of conducting a classical marketing campaign. To drive user acquisition, there will be some ongoing bounty campaign / contest such as : the 10 users who have brought the most of new users through their referral link; these 10 users will share the monthly prize pool; or it could be the 10 developers whose add-on are the most downloaded this month.

Having these contests / ongoing bounty campaigns will incentivize these developers, or these users to commit even more, because they will become stakeholder and receive more revenus per token if the ecosystem keep growing, or just more revenue by growing their token stacks.


2. As the pools have 50M and 30M tokens (12% and  7% of all the tokens) they will also receive, like any token holders, a part of the revenue. In that case it will be 12% and 7% of the 20%. These revenues can be used for classical marketing campaign or can be used to buy back tokens from exchanges, to refill the pools, until the moment these pools will definitely be empty. So as you see there is some virtue circle.


3. An exchange does not need millions per month to be run efficiently. Even by giving away 40 or 60% of an exchange revenue, you might end up to be still profitable. This is why people are very interested to buy tokens distributing the exchanges revenues. Exchanges are the most valuable piece in this ecosystem. They can generate a lot of revenue.


Very interesting answer, thank you for the details. This project looks promising.
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November 07, 2018, 03:38:11 PM
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The project looks interesting to follow.

Good luck jarvis team!
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November 07, 2018, 05:50:53 PM
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I want to reserve the Filipino translation for the project.

Here are my past works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HFwLSGzsmrhsuY8u-HaSBOzc5n4qUQqsPRQwFfU9ehA/edit#gid=0

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November 07, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
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Hello everyone, we have launched our bounty campaign !

Let's spread 10M tokens among the entire cryptoscene !

>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065193.msg47680318#msg47680318

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November 07, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
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Hello JARVIS team,

Do you plan to list as many coins/token as the actual exchanges such as Binance or Bittrex for instance?

Thanks

We are planning to grow the list of assets over the time, and probably overpass the listing size of these exchanges. However, it is not our priority at the moment as we want first to provide the most liquid coins/assets.

There might be more assets listed in the semi-decentralized one.

Also remember that you can trade Binance or Bittrex assets from the UI of Jarvis as you can connect Jarvis ti multiple exchanges account.

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November 07, 2018, 07:59:21 PM
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I want to reserve the Filipino translation for the project.

Here are my past works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HFwLSGzsmrhsuY8u-HaSBOzc5n4qUQqsPRQwFfU9ehA/edit#gid=0

You can pm me here or on telegram (@Wingoooo) to confirm my participation.

Hello ! Could you post this on there : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065193.new#new

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November 07, 2018, 08:31:07 PM
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JRT and JUSD token will be ERC-20?
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November 07, 2018, 09:14:03 PM
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There are a lot of fake ICO nowadays I'm checking on some ICO rating and and you are not yet verified or you still not yet verified the composition of your team might as well complete the verification so you will gain a good trust rating from the community.

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November 07, 2018, 09:39:55 PM
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JRT and JUSD token will be ERC-20?

JRT yes, JUSD might be ERC20, but we do not close the door to use another blockchain such as Credits, NEO or EOS for scalability reason. We will be checking the progress on Ethereum, and if they match our needs then we wil keep using their Blockchain.

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November 07, 2018, 09:41:01 PM
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There are a lot of fake ICO nowadays I'm checking on some ICO rating and and you are not yet verified or you still not yet verified the composition of your team might as well complete the verification so you will gain a good trust rating from the community.

We are currently working on that Smiley

You can also check our founders Linkedin, or Youtube channel (DMTrading) to see that we are neither fake, nor scammer Smiley

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November 07, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
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Hello JARVIS team,

Do you plan to list as many coins/token as the actual exchanges such as Binance or Bittrex for instance?

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We are planning to grow the list of assets over the time, and probably overpass the listing size of these exchanges. However, it is not our priority at the moment as we want first to provide the most liquid coins/assets.

There might be more assets listed in the semi-decentralized one.

Also remember that you can trade Binance or Bittrex assets from the UI of Jarvis as you can connect Jarvis ti multiple exchanges account.

Hi again,

Thank you for your reply !

The possibility to trade the other exchange assets from Jarvis is really a nice feature !
I can't wait to try it...


It is; it will not be as seamless as it sounds. You will need to generate an API key first. Then this key will be encrypted by PIN code on your device (in a data-locker). We will not keep your data on our side. You might not be able to withdraw or deposit funds, since a lot of exchange, for obvious security reason, do not allow this through their API.

But at least you will be able to use our UI, far superior, and keep ysing your favorite exchange... until the moment you fall for the Jarvis one Smiley

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November 07, 2018, 11:25:42 PM
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Looks like a very promising project - can't wait to see it live !
The whitepaper is written in a scientific way and explains the structure of the project in details.

One thing is not clear to me - in what form will I receive my 25 % of income dividend - USD or another token Huh
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November 07, 2018, 11:33:48 PM
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Looks like a very promising project - can't wait to see it live !
The whitepaper is written in a scientific way and explains the structure of the project in details.

One thing is not clear to me - in what form will I receive my 25 % of income dividend - USD or another token Huh

Thanks a lot, more "user-friendly" documentations will be provided for less technical person.

The revenue will be shared in stable coin. But we will listen to the community and might be able to share revenu in the crypto or token collected thourgh the fees.

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November 08, 2018, 02:36:07 AM
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This hybrid multi asset exchange gives confidence and security to its users. It's very useful to have a single wallet which provides fiat, crypto, stocks, & Forex trading. You have lots of competitors in crypto market but I believe the team will improve the exchange platform very well. The 25% of income dividend is a plus bonus for its users. One thing I suggest is to please pass KYC in ICO bench for you to gain high ratings.
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November 08, 2018, 07:54:09 AM
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•  Bitcointalk username: adelaisav
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•  Email: dancukbanget@gmail.com
•  Telegram: @filarisdianto
•  Part of bounty you apply for : ALL
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November 08, 2018, 07:57:44 AM
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This hybrid multi asset exchange gives confidence and security to its users. It's very useful to have a single wallet which provides fiat, crypto, stocks, & Forex trading. You have lots of competitors in crypto market but I believe the team will improve the exchange platform very well. The 25% of income dividend is a plus bonus for its users. One thing I suggest is to please pass KYC in ICO bench for you to gain high ratings.

Hello Smiley Regarding ICO ratings we are currently doing it.

As for the competition in crypto, it is true yes ! But our value proposition are neither the fees, nor the number of asset listed. Most of the exchange has nothing to propose but low fees. They highlight their security, or their liquidity, or their user-friendlyness.

Of course we will provide such features, but we do not rely on this to acquire user. We do rely on our trading platform on the short term, our existing communities, and our deep knowledge of the trading and Fx industry. We do rely on the experience our exchange will provide, and our strategy.

One of them is helping traders to monetize their content; as example for traders doing coaching, live trading, and analysis. To run an analysis service today, you need our trading platform; then an another servie such as newsletter service, or Telegram/Discord or private FB group etc. to send your analysis to your customer. Within Jarvis, you can manage this through business add-in. For analysis, you make your analysis, then you send it directly to your group of customer within the platform; they do not receive an image, but they receive a notification to open a new chart window, with your analysis; these charts are linked so any change in first chart will change the others charts; others add-on include trading room, live streaming, copy trading etc.

We have already spoken with several french and spannish trader running such services and it is a solution they will like to use. By onboarding them, we will also onboard a big part of their community.

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