Organized crime in bounties...

[Trollinator]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

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[makadaka]

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

[Trollinator]

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

It really is, but most people have no idea what’s happening. They think bounty hunters are lazy, but we are not!! It the scammers and bounty managers who are lazy.

[eternalgloom]

They shouldn't be that difficult to detect, if they're using bots for sign-ups etc.
If the campaigns are actually somewhat decent, they can easily figure out the patterns of these bots and just deny them any payouts automatically.

That said, some campaigns just do not care. They're just in it for a quick money grab and they'll just pay out tokens to these bot farms.
Probably because it's cheaper for them than actually trying to fix it.

[Trollinator]

They shouldn't be that difficult to detect, if they're using bots for sign-ups etc.
If the campaigns are actually somewhat decent, they can easily figure out the patterns of these bots and just deny them any payouts automatically.

That said, some campaigns just do not care. They're just in it for a quick money grab and they'll just pay out tokens to these bot farms.
Probably because it's cheaper for them than actually trying to fix it.

That’s very true!! Scam projects don’t care. However, there are also some honest projects who go into an ICO thinking they can manage the bounty themselves based on their corporate marketing experience; NOT KNOWING that bounties in cryptos is a different animal. They aren’t prepared or experienced to deal with scam bot making developers who have been in cryptos much longer.

[kiemnhieutien]

It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

[Trollinator]

It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

Well, can’t blame any of the BCT moderator for this. This kind of problem exists in any online forum. A good idea is to have projects registered their bounty with the forum; and pay a small fee. Then give the project a “red trust” account to tag these scammers when found, so that the BCT forum admins don’t have to waste their time chasing scammers.

[payjoe93]

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

[Trollinator]

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

I totally agree. The scammers use their fake accounts in the groups to complain and confused the real people

[sinkfish]

thread carefully. this days scamming scheme is getting much sophisticated.

[CTO@MyBitMine]

I also notice that,I'm not sure but probably KYC for bounty hunters can helps with this problem, cheaters are everywhere and unfortunatly we can't get rid of them all.

[gwaposakon]

This is not surprising. Opportunities in crypto are quite big, so, steadily it is also becoming a medium for syndicates to deceive and exploit financially other people. Having a great deal of knowledge about what you are joining is very important so you will not be used by these scammers.

[bellamente]

Now Airdrop conducts Stellar (XLM) in conjunction with blockchain.com. I think it will be the biggest fraudulent airdrop.

What do you think why they spend airdrop?

[ije07]

it is really a fraudulent act that must be stopped immediately because it will harm other participants because there are several airdrop programs that distribute the prize equally for all participants and if the number of participants is large then the prize that will be received by each participant is very little and of course it's a loss for participants who only have one account

[memecoin]

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

I suggest you think again when you believe too much about them, because it is simply not possible for them to be so good without profit. But anyway this is the good way that I see from your comment and You should be more careful with yourself.

[fortunecrypto]

These are the reasons why I never join bounties that do not protect their bounty hunters, there is bounty campaign that you will need a verification before you can join this is good they can easily trace who are cheating their bounty campaign, I hope all bounty managers will apply this.

[baghdatis1990]

     It's good to sign up for projects where there are trusted managers who have not fooled people so far. I know that this method does not give a chance to the debutants who are well intentioned, but it is a measure of protection for us, the bounty hunters.

[bitc0000]

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

I totally agree. The scammers use their fake accounts in the groups to complain and confused the real people

Yea ~ I've seen so many things like that. There are too many scammers in the bounty campaign and I think the best solution is that every person who wants to participate in a bounty needs to post proof at bitcointalk

[Sadari3]

there must be special software that prevents scammers from using bot accounts to follow bounties, experienced bounty managers usually have a way to detect bounty participants who use multi accounts.

[swiftbits]

This is my first time knowing those things! I think scammers would really do everything for a huge amount of money even it took a lot of effort
I encountered a bounty spreadsheet flooded by fake information for telegram campaign, probably a scammers doing.

[iancortis]

thats why kyc process is a big help to know legitimate hunters. sometime managers has also connected with this kind of crime they leave it happen because maybe some of fakes accounts are made from theirs. so, much better to know who is the best and trusted leaders.

[Grim149x]

I think that's really unfair for legit bounty hunters trying their best. Imagind being cut off by a large margin of fake accounts or multiple accounts.

[pri3oner]

What if I tell u that there are a couple official bounty teams who constantly cheat on bounty participants? I guess u know them too.

[Biscutard]

This is not new these days because the bounty era has slowly been gone due to these bots and fake accounts plus the lazy manager who just check every weekends but not doing anything during workdays. I hope someone would settle things first if someone was into a bounty campaigns because as a bounty hunters i feel bad for being cheated.

[dunfida]

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Bounty programs wont really ever get rid of cheaters as long those people do see the opportunity on making money there would always be a tendency to cheat.
For bounty managers inexperienced would really have that flaw even the professional ones where there are really people can still pass out even how the manager would
check out.Not all are perfect but good managers can somehow detect but still need assistance from the participant itself.

[BTCHadzija]

thank you this is very helpful, lately I've become more serious about the projects I do bounties about

[Dessy88]

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

It really is, but most people have no idea what’s happening. They think bounty hunters are lazy, but we are not!! It the scammers and bounty managers who are lazy.

thank you, bro, at least we all can be careful now, I've also heard that all there are many scammers in the crypto world. we have to take care of our account from fraudsters.

[Schirer]

Hmm i was not aware of the article stealing in such amount, i doubt that that it is happening in such huge scale and even if translating with google is going trough then managers are to blame, this is their work.

About the airdrops, I actually dont care . Good for them, if they actually can find decent airdrop which will allow yo use bots . I mean if they are able to all the tasks necessary to obtain airdop, which is a handful most of times.

[rodskee]

That's is truly correct some people create an project to got earn in a bad ways
That's the reason investors are scared to invest in bounty project because of that kind of modus
But not all bounty are scam there are so many bounties are working good with good promises
It's better to investigate well before take risk investing in scam project

[chip1994]

Bounty scam situation is very much, the ratio is occupying more than 70%. Currently, there is no solution that can solve this scam situation, the only way is to pick ICO carefully to avoid scam. With the current bad market condition, it is challenging to find good ICO projects.

[Trollinator]

Hmm i was not aware of the article stealing in such amount, i doubt that that it is happening in such huge scale and even if translating with google is going trough then managers are to blame, this is their work.

About the airdrops, I actually dont care . Good for them, if they actually can find decent airdrop which will allow yo use bots . I mean if they are able to all the tasks necessary to obtain airdop, which is a handful most of times.

I didn’t believe it myself until...
Imagine you are an English speaking bounty hunter reviewing Asian languages articles; spammed 100’s of times under hundreds of accounts? Article are targeted because it has the fewest participants.

[jt byte]

The problem is not only with bounty hunters, there are also many bounty managers who took money for managing scam ICO.

[tuthienloc92bk]

Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough,...

Let try to get a red trust with comment "Cheating bounty with alts account" and you will know what effect of work that DTs are doing.

so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

Actually, this name of forum is Bitcointalk, not Bountytalk. Even Altcoin section just appeared in few years ago. And Bounties is a child board of Altcoin section, it is as a sub-part of Bitcointalk forum. If theymos and his team decide to excute Bounties section, Bitcointalk will be still alive.

[loveinberlin]

Thanks for sharing this post because I have never faced such scams before and I hope not to face them. I will be careful and will check the bounty more carefully than I did before

[Ridwan Fauzi]

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...

The performance of a bounty manager is indeed taken into account, the impact is that if they manage the bounty campaign well then the result is they will get good rewards from the developer for a project and assessment from the bounty hunter. Bounty campaign is a promising promotional place for a project, so it is time for every bounty campaign actor, whether it is a bounty manager, a bounty hunter must really make a positive contribution to a project. And in many forums, people have made a study of the bounty campaign manager who is very trusted, so as I suggest if you are a bounty hunter if there is a bounty manager who becomes a bounty campaign then you can take part in the bounty.

[DJ_Rick]

I have heard about such crimes but have never faced them. I think that it is difficult but possible to avoid such scams if you know the pecualiarities of the whole system. To my mind, you should be able to check its reputability

[Panteleymon]

Fraudsters always act according to a well-established pattern and rarely make adjustments. If you are promised gold mountains for nothing, then your brain should immediately cut off dreams from reality, otherwise you will end up as a mouse in a mouse. There is nothing complicated about it.

[Lisa110386]

I agree with the author, this topic is very relevant now. In bounty, and especially in airdrop many scammers, who register their numerous accounts. In bounty campaigns, I often saw reports written with a difference of 1-2 minutes from Junior membur's accounts, and often having a negative trust and the same location and registered at the same time. I wrote to the Manager about it. I suspected these reports were sent by bots.

[Cryptomilz]

They shouldn't be that difficult to detect, if they're using bots for sign-ups etc.
If the campaigns are actually somewhat decent, they can easily figure out the patterns of these bots and just deny them any payouts automatically.

That said, some campaigns just do not care. They're just in it for a quick money grab and they'll just pay out tokens to these bot farms.
Probably because it's cheaper for them than actually trying to fix it.

Very easy to detect for a bounty manager that is serious. Once signed up for a bounty and while still on the spreadsheets, hundreds of sign up were dropping in minutes. I detected it and called the attention of the bounty manager to it, and he said he's working to handle it.

[nak02]

This natural that bounty hunters will be blame because we all know that we are the same person that seek money here so we cannot deny that being called a scammers also.

[weborsha]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

something like what you write about happened to localcoinswap content campaign. Although there was stake system according to to content quality, the manager has divided the total content pool into more than 2500 equal parts without any check)

[Andruha1993]

Yes, now there are a lot of scams and a lot of different frauds on the part of scammers. Therefore, you need to be very careful when participating in bounty campaigns.

[dddudidd]

Scammers must always be avoided, before we participate, we must do good research, and a little discussion. if the scamer is also set, a bounty hunter is also needed to create a discussion group to avoid scamer

[MrPao]

I rarely participated in the airdrop because I found that in the airdrop participant spreadsheet, there were more than 5,000 participants registered in almost 1-2 days. I know that there are more than 70% of the robots. I don't want to compete with the robots.

[Noobaru]

Very helpful tips. To be honest, I am not surprised that this is happening since greed is present everywhere. But some people are from very poor countries and are working under their bosses to scam other people, they really have no choice but to do it. I've heard of several "click farm" institutions where workers are exploited to spam and scam 24/7. While being poor is not an excuse to things like that, it definitely helps. But yes, all in all we should take precautions and try to minimalize scamming ourselves.

[Iamlegit4sure]

Well, at this point I think that if you get scammed into a bounty campaign, it is really your fault. There is much more knowledge nowadays than just 2 years ago. We know that a lot of ico and bounty campaigns are scam project. So, the simplest thing to do is to just a little research. Check the website, Chek the tram, check each and every member of the development team and you will know pretty soon if the project is legit or it is a scam project aiming to just steal your time and tokens

[Perfect35]

I just have this feeling that scammers do not have conscience. Have it been they have, they would have thought of it twice before reaping their fellow humans what belongs to them. Sometimes, these scammers just duplicate the entries of sincere hunters. It has also happened to me. There were times I look at the spreadsheet and discover that someone had used my details, except the ethereum address which is changed.

[Tistergis]

This year it became the mass phenomenon. It is necessary to take urgently measures differently fraud priobrt unprecedented scales and will frighten off investors.

[Reid]

It is all correct but for how many times it was told here?

They are making it like a group work.
A group of people which have a lot of accounts and then joining every bounties. Either social, telegram, signature and even the translation have been entered now but done in worse quality.

Admin or you could say managers cannot really take that amount of people to monitor everytime. It aint really on the job description. Disciplined workers is the key to it.

[MonaLeeTracy]

Yes, now there are a lot of scams and a lot of different frauds on the part of scammers. Therefore, you need to be very careful when participating in bounty campaigns.

the more gifts, of course more and more crimes are always developing. because today many gifts have been exploited by bad people as a cover for fraud.

[jack1111]

The bounty manager should be resposible for that , and to be honest, it is difficult for him to deal with such issue when there are thousands of participants, specially in twitter and telegram, so other participants can help as you mentioned, because it will reflect on their rewards anyway.
I suggest allocating a part of the bounty campaign tokens for the participants who manage to uncover bots or connected accounts in that campaign.

[taguig]

It is happening because there is a lot of money to be made from bounty campaign, in fact, you can set up a company for bounty campaign alone or you will get rich if you are into a lot of campaigns because there are too many ICO around now, it is very profitable indeed but like what you said you should protect your works.

[CryptoToxicAvenger]

It would be very correct, but unfortunately not everyone will adhere to these rules. Responsible bounty managers who perform their work qualitatively is not enough. It is better to rely only on yourself and own to check your reports.

[adekogbe]

There are cheaters everywhere and in a program that allows people to make easy money like airdrops, this is bound to be a target for scammers who aim to use running jeans to acquire tokens or coins.
Cheaters using bots, however, have gotten easier to get and track and I think bounty and project managers  owe it to their community to stop all this cheaters.

[SloveNing]

airdrop campaigns can be manipulated because the conditions are easy to just register an email once and that can be done with bots, but for bounty campaigns it is difficult to manipulate because there are many rules that prevent scammer behavior, especially handled by experienced bounty managers, the scammer will be known but we must still be diligent in checking spreadsheets.

[basici]

it really pisses you off because you work honestly and others just make money by fraud

[allthebitandbobs]

Hopefully, I think my bounty campaign will weed out most of the scammers. Every person who takes part in the bounty will have to raise 200 dollars through there referral link to receive there bounty at the end of the campaign.So fake accounts with fake users won't are no good to you unless u raise that 200 dollars 

[jamids]

These are the reasons why I never join bounties that do not protect their bounty hunters, there is bounty campaign that you will need a verification before you can join this is good they can easily trace who are cheating their bounty campaign, I hope all bounty managers will apply this.

Yes, there are too many scammers in the bounty campaigns that the one who manage the campaign should be more strict when checking the entries because there are times when the author perhaps of an article is the one who will end up not being credited and the one who just copied his article is the one who received the coin. There should be a strict checking of the entries but due to the fact that there are so many participants in the campaign then the manager may not be able to check some entries that may result to the hunters being disappointed.

[Kotone]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Even if they scam the bounty, it still boils down to the sales of the project in the end. Unless the project becomes successful the tokens they will receive or even eth or other main crypto as payment would only be their possession.

[Jaka.Sembuh]

with the number of scammers in the bounty program, of course, it will hurt the participants who are honest in participating in a bounty and I see project managers now anticipating it by requiring bounty participants to verify KYC before accepting their rewards and I think this is enough to reduce scammers this time.

[cosmicart]

There are some things that are almost above our power, truth is this issue is leaving bounty hunters with a bad name, but the best thing I think is for legit hunters to keep doing their legit hunting jobs. Kyc is also a very good way to curb this scammers out.

[Trollinator]

Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough,...

Let try to get a red trust with comment "Cheating bounty with alts account" and you will know what effect of work that DTs are doing.

so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

Actually, this name of forum is Bitcointalk, not Bountytalk. Even Altcoin section just appeared in few years ago. And Bounties is a child board of Altcoin section, it is as a sub-part of Bitcointalk forum. If theymos and his team decide to excute Bounties section, Bitcointalk will be still alive.

You sound like a scam account trying to stop the word from getting out!!

[jack8989]

Your solutions are not necessarily the best. I think that bounties are scammed by some people and managers do not want that. So the way to find a good and excellent project, we should look for the actual project. Projects can bring in revenue and produce products for everyone. That is a good project.

[maligu]

This is very scary, such as artificial intelligence robots? If this is the case, the forum may disappear a large number of users within one to two years. Such illegal actions should be rejected. This is frightening.

[Real_Person]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and...


I hope this was helpful...

This forum uses the sometimes ugly and horrible reCaptcha (reCAPTCHA: Easy on Humans, Hard on Bots - Google) for logins are you saying it is easy to beat?

[karagun125]

Day by day hackers, scammers, and fraudulent people are going to take easy money, they do not make a hardwork but instead they will victimized people out of ignorance and that's what they wanted, to make money easy by scam. So guys, we should be aware at all times. And so we hope that fraudulent people gets banned automatically, and also the bounty that are scam should be reported and banned.

[Omela44]

Thanks for the good advice. In the future, i will pay more attention to whether everything goes right on the bountie. Thought so far, the bountie manager pay more attention to this problems.

[rosezionjohn]

I agree with your observation especially on telegram bots. I also see similar patterns of bot accounts. The latest I observed are English and Russian nicknames with some made up username (e.g. sdfuinsdi). They just kept coming everyday. This is probably the reason why some campaign managers do not check them well because it is really time consuming.

[bryant.coleman]

The bounty sector is in shambles. Thousands of bounties ongoing right now and most of them are being managed by junior level members. There are members who manage dozens of bounties simultaneously and I don't think that these people have enough time available to screen out the scammers.

[Trollinator]

That's why KYC implemented to see hoe cheaters can pass this requirement. I think their only targeting some projects without KYC, so I suggest bounty managers should not announced KYC at first then surprise them at the end when campaign is over to conduct KYC.

Yes, I agree!! Then we some teams start KYC after finding fraud, they use their fake accounts to complain and make it look like the real community doesn’t like KYC.

[Rrtt]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

It would be good if you have evidence and share the link. We can't deny the fact that it indeed exist so i hope that this will be put to a stop.

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...

The bounty administrator were being paid to do their job but sad to say that some of them were involve in this kind of scam because of greed.

[Trollinator]

The bounty sector is in shambles. Thousands of bounties ongoing right now and most of them are being managed by junior level members. There are members who manage dozens of bounties simultaneously and I don't think that these people have enough time available to screen out the scammers.

BCT member rank has nothing to do with it. Just because someone started a BCT account recently doesn’t mean they don’t understand cryptos or marketing. I think no project should trust anyone controling their ANA, because the members who controls it can blackmail them by denying access. Put more thought into things...

[Way2Paradise]

actually sad that something like this bountie participants noticed and the manager, however, do nothing. they are actually well paid to prevent such scam methods. perhaps the bountie operators should look the manager more on the finger.

[barnes13]

Yes, I think this situation is becoming more frequent. That's why many bounty campaigns must require participants to do KYC before receiving rewards.
In my opinion, actually the KYC system applied to bounty campaigns also has a big impact to reduce the risk of people who want to cheat like that.

[tisumagic]

There are some things that are almost above our power, truth is this issue is leaving bounty hunters with a bad name, but the best thing I think is for legit hunters to keep doing their legit hunting jobs. Kyc is also a very good way to curb this scammers out.

many projects turned out to be fraudsters, with them offering prizes with a large allocation for bounty hunters, and it turned out that in the end the project didn't pay for it. indeed in choosing a project we cannot determine which projects are truly responsible, because this year is very difficult

[Little_king]

It really gives me concern when I see many scammers in every spreadsheet I checked and funny involve the manger will award stake to them when it's clear that they are scam, which show that most of the manager are lazy or should we say they also know about it and maybe the culprit too, cos I have seen a group where a guy complain about duplicate account and the manager didn't do anything to it, it happen mostly in fb, two and Reddit even in signature , I think the scam btt account need to be reported to moderator here to get ban.

[Ch01ce0N3]

It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

I don't think so because not all bounty managers are lazy to check every entry. I can also understand if they cannot carry out their duties at any time because you can imagine it yourself if there are many participants participating in the project even reaching up to 2000 people who participate and and this is only just at social media campaigns, not yet another campaign that still has to be calculated. So I think we must not judge, like saying that the bounty manager is all lazy, because that is not true.

The best step is if you find suspicious activity from someone, immediately report it to the bounty manager. Don't be afraid that you will be ignored. It's better if you try to report it instead of allowing cheating people to get the token reward. I believe that there are still many bounty managers who are professional and responsive to things like this.

[canaveralnonie]

It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.

I don't think so because not all bounty managers are lazy to check every entry. I can also understand if they cannot carry out their duties at any time because you can imagine it yourself if there are many participants participating in the project even reaching up to 2000 people who participate and and this is only just at social media campaigns, not yet another campaign that still has to be calculated. So I think we must not judge, like saying that the bounty manager is all lazy, because that is not true.

The best step is if you find suspicious activity from someone, immediately report it to the bounty manager. Don't be afraid that you will be ignored. It's better if you try to report it instead of allowing cheating people to get the token reward. I believe that there are still many bounty managers who are professional and responsive to things like this.

That's why I don't join on those campaign with a low rank campaign manager or even a copper member with a low rank. I usually join on campaign with at least senior rank btt account. And Yes, sometimes the bounty manager or the campaign manager is also a victim for such a long period of time. This crypto community is composed of different kind of mind ( people ) but always keep on your mind that more of us want money and money and money than a project.

[UAE Seasider]

Really? wake up your dreaming!! not worth the effort the rewards are far too low for any self-respecting Boss to waste his time on a few dollars for 2 months work.

[canaveralnonie]

Really? wake up your dreaming!! not worth the effort the rewards are far too low for any self-respecting Boss to waste his time on a few dollars for 2 months work.

Can you quote up who are you waking for that post? Such a cut comment of yours, and of course, all of the bounty hunters are very upset and disappointed on a few dollars only. But it does not mean we need to stop doing bounty hunting, as I can see on yourself ( your account ) that you are continue to wear avatar and signature from a crypto project. That's why the author do this thread to encourage all of us to report those shady works of others, such a dirty people who want to take advantage of others. We need to do an alternative solution on this issue.

[qiman]

I am forever reporting fake scammers and thieves who steal my content and my username and one even made a telegram using my profile photo as well and impersonating me. This is so ridiculous. If they go through all this effort to scam, why not make a frigging video or article themselves and post, are they so stupid or lazy? I sometimes am ashamed to say I am Asian also as most scammers are coming out of Asia as well. Mostly the bounty gangs are Vietnamese, I notice form their emails.

[thesmallgod]

They shouldn't be that difficult to detect, if they're using bots for sign-ups etc.
If the campaigns are actually somewhat decent, they can easily figure out the patterns of these bots and just deny them any payouts automatically.

That said, some campaigns just do not care. They're just in it for a quick money grab and they'll just pay out tokens to these bot farms.
Probably because it's cheaper for them than actually trying to fix it.

Some bounty manager are very lazy in checking out cheaters in bounty programme and that is the reason why it is very easy for this cheaters to go away with this. most importantly ones they see that a bounty manager doesnt do alot of work in analysing work before allocating token then he will be their target they will be using bot to sign up in every campaign he/she is managing. I have experienced this in the past. despite that i reported that someone my work, the BM still go ahead to allocate token for such stolen work.

[UAE Seasider]

Really? wake up your dreaming!! not worth the effort the rewards are far too low for any self-respecting Boss to waste his time on a few dollars for 2 months work.

Can you quote up who are you waking for that post? Such a cut comment of yours, and of course, all of the bounty hunters are very upset and disappointed on a few dollars only. But it does not mean we need to stop doing bounty hunting, as I can see on yourself ( your account ) that you are continue to wear avatar and signature from a crypto project. That's why the author do this thread to encourage all of us to report those shady works of others, such a dirty people who want to take advantage of others. We need to do an alternative solution on this issue.

I was referring to the OP not yours by the way. I think it is ridiculous to speculate that organised crime is going to be bothered to try and scam a few dollars from bounty campaigns that take 2 - 3 months of collection. The rest of us are picking up tiny amounts from our efforts but my hope is that they will flourish in the next Buill phase.

[HEvangelista]

I have a friend who says that there is this certain project or company that supposedly should have already gave the tokens or coins to them but 5 months has passed and the tokens has not been given yet. So he does not really know whether he should pursue it or just forget about it because the chat room on telegram has no replies and also bans who gives FUD at that chatroom. It even asked KYC for the bounty participants. Tragic really.

[Ducky1]

Unfortunately, this situation has been observed for more than one month. Bounty managers should deal with such situations, as they take responsibility for the bounty campaign.

[tuthienloc92bk]

You sound like a scam account trying to stop the word from getting out!!

Date Registered: March 31, 2018. You joined Bitcointalk forum earlier than me. But you still think what I said as from a scammer try to get the rresponsible people out of my way? LoL. "bitcointalk.org can stop scam ICO" if you have ever read what high rank members and oldest members said in that thread, you will understand what I said. Unfortunately, that thread was deleted. But you will still receive a result while search by google. I wish you will become a legendary of all bounty hunters of Bitcointalk forum after changing this scam world.

[cryptosmoker]

That's why I don't join on those campaign with a low rank campaign manager or even a copper member with a low rank. I usually join on campaign with at least senior rank btt account. And Yes, sometimes the bounty manager or the campaign manager is also a victim for such a long period of time. This crypto community is composed of different kind of mind ( people ) but always keep on your mind that more of us want money and money and money than a project.

That's why we need to know all of the information about the project before joining, right?
We do not only need to know about the project's potency, the team, the manager is also important here so we will not get trapped then.

[yanesna3]

Very useful article, I think it would be interesting to create a separate forum where participants could only give to us some information about companies that turned out to be scammers.

[miyaka26]

Countless methods of abuses to the bounty that we can mention here from those bounty abusers, some of them manage to take some peoples username here to join bounty or airdrop then they use their own wallets to profit without the consent of the original owner, some of them abuse the registration system, doubling their entries with different usernames, telegrams, and URL to look legit but the owner is just one man, managers need to restrict the registrations like posting some authentications to bitcointalk and double checking.

[BTCreward]

This is indeed one of the worst factors affecting the lives of bounty hunters. But I can see that such scams are not so much, as in most cases, people just have a few accounts. I think almost every bounty hunter has a second account.

[seyola89]

It's so bad that some people love to earn from unreasonable or lazy tasks and try to live off other people genuine works. This is why many bounties nowadays require KYC before you can receive your rewards.

[ramsankadirov1345]

I think for beginners this article will be a good grant how it is possible to struggle with swindlers. I when notice something similar always I contact the manager. But happens so he doesn't answer or ignores. In such cases I don't see sense to participate further in the project.

[mohammedmattar]

In one campaign I told the admin (from the team) in the Telegram room
There are huge robot entries
He told me that our campaign manager was a professional and would handle it
"Then let's get a free job and they will not get stakes

So far nothing has been deleted
That was about two weeks ago
All in all, it is up to the awareness of the campaign manager and the hunters together
Because in the end their joint work.

[Astermony]

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

It is the best strategy to lessen the chances of falling into a trap but cannot be avoided in some cases because of scammers had also strategies on how to convince managers to work for them, as I 've said it cannot be avoided but at least it was minimal.

[cryp24x]

It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).

I agree with you. We must really filter the bounties that we have to join in order not to waste our time and effort in helping the project to be successful by doing our tasks. About the Bounty Manager, that's a good factor but we should also do the work on researching about the bounty to join. If a Bounty fails, it is not the Bounty Manager's fault I think. Strict rules are okay for me if it will scammers to come in.

[Mishgan27]

it's sad that bounty hunter has to fight the crooks now. and often managers are removed from the company for a small mistake and the scammers remain. that's not fair. I value my work and don't want others to steal from me

[hongus]

Now there are a lot of worthy managers who do the full job of finding fraudsters. Of course, a small ICO is faced with such a problem. Yes in the cryptocurrency world there are a lot of scammers  

[markieeeloy]

If this matter has a proof, then this is a serious matter that can be forward to the team of the ico campaign. This is a big unbalance and a big unfair to the bounty hunters that is honest with their work. Can anyone have a better idea that may be able to catch the users that are doing these?

[Maknae09]

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

Basically, there are some people who randomly joins a telegram group and try to devastate its members through a link tha they send. Primarily a Phishing site where the accounts and personal info's of the members are stolen and even their money.

[Gab20]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Some managers are to blame for acts like this. There are some managers that have devised means to prevent acts like this. For instance, some of them have decided to introduced the use of proof of stakes, which is also useful in curbing any scam attempt.
Then for mangers who manage lots of bounty programmes, if they feel they cannot effectively management the works before them with the available manpower, they should get more helping hands, in order to allow for proper monitoring.

[Holla123]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Ok so what are you saying? You expect the regular bounty manager to be able to fight against organized crime? If they have enough fake profiles I do not see how it would be possible how to track that. For the duplicate texts hmm maybe with proper text analytics but that has to be cost effective as soon as it is done.

[Bittalk12]

There are different methods used by experienced bounty managers nowadays where they are using minor KYC by posting on the thread or using telegram bot before you get the form o be filled out when joining specific campaign. Your suggestions are common but would be helpful for inexperience bounty managers. Bounty hunter scammers are those who usually do identity theft to multiply their reward so we also have to be aware checking the spreadsheet.

[thesosorr]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Yes. This is very helpful. Very much scamming bounties occur. No exception on the bounty project and on the airdrop project. They do it very organized. There are a number of bounty projects that I have participated in, they only posted profiles of other people's accounts and only changed the address of the wallet.
I think, the admin really needs to check the authenticity of the accounts of the participants who joined.

[Gekkoo]

From the moment some campaign allows the interaction of newbies, the catastrophic results you just mentioned just demonstrate what fact this forum has become! The newbie should be concerned with interacting and creating experience in the early days of the forum! If the newbie is going after bounties campaign, it is possible to raise several discussions and doubts about its relation with the forum.

[DAVETUN]

Scammers have abuse the bounty platform, reducing the amount of token earn by individual, I feel bounty is heading to extinction except there is a control mechanism to checkmate scammers and  individual that use bot and people with several acount, Airdrop  platform is over as token receive this days is very low in value.

[codegnome]

From the moment some campaign allows the interaction of newbies, the catastrophic results you just mentioned just demonstrate what fact this forum has become! The newbie should be concerned with interacting and creating experience in the early days of the forum! If the newbie is going after bounties campaign, it is possible to raise several discussions and doubts about its relation with the forum.

I think that such behavior could be easily eliminated. It's enough that bounty managers will not accept Newbies for any campaign. Unfortunately, this is probably impossible, because managers want spam so that the advertisement can be seen in as many places as possible.

[smyslov]

Good observation, we need a good and experienced bounty manager to catch these scammers, they are now so good and so organized that if the bounty manager does not have a team they will not get caught, these scammers there are huge money to collect in the bounty.

[sell my ac_________nt]

Yes, I agree there is such a problem and I faced it when I made the content, and the scammers copied it and received the same ratings. So I stopped working.

[Huntler1993]

It sometimes amazes me how people could be such heartless to dupe others of their hard earn monies through this way. Its really becoming rampant since they normally go away freely with their bad deeds. Its about we do something about these act before it escalates.

[castiloros]

I think instead of admin tasks to check for a bounty. the most appropriate is of yourself which should be able to analyze or protect yourself to be better and to avoid the project containing the scam. a lot happens is many do not ignore it and go directly to the project that looks good.

[Alohadance]

Yeh, I agree with you. There are hundreds of scam bounties now. So many projects ignore hardworking bountyhunters. THey should work more carefully while checking our work too. There are so many bots which are participating in bounties.

[Furious 7]

bounty is not the main job, but companies should appreciate their hard work. currently there are too many dramas, delaying payments and exchanges.
even bounty payments are paid in installments until the end of 2019.

[miropp]

Because of this, many projects are beginning to introduce the KYC procedure. This is the only way to get rid of hundreds of multi accounts and bots. But you give the right advice, everyone should be order, and then all will be well.

[deloodin]

In bounty that I provide - very strict rules. There no place for cheaters! Link in signature

[soramon]

The number of scammers is high it makes choosing real bounty project hard. I think the team should have a super strict rules for their bounty hunters so scammer cant join in. Doing bounties is not fun anymore scammer ruin everything.

[79b79aa8d5047da6d3XX]

bounty is not the main job, but companies should appreciate their hard work. currently there are too many dramas, delaying payments and exchanges.
even bounty payments are paid in installments until the end of 2019.

They are doing many different ways to create difficulties for bounty hunters. Maybe because the market is going down, they don't want to pay for bounty or pay very little, unlike 2017 when everything goes smoothly. Now we should not waste too much time on bounties, it is too difficult to receive an income

[nreal]

I am really sad because of fraud in bonus programs, many Bounty managers are not interested in this issue. It is time to take strong measures to prevent this situation.

[cryptogeek101]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

I think this is a great advice for bounty hunters and bounty managers alike,the advice will go a long way to serve as a check to many crypto projects scammers who are in the market carrying out these organised crimes. Thanks

[Goodvalony]

after my first two months in airdrops, i discovered that it is useless and time consuming. people should not for once waste time running airdrops. for the bounty, somebody has used my btc account for a bounty i was part of. it is quite clear that some of the people involved in this game are here in this community.  they create more than 10 accounts and distribute  merits. some even sell out the accounts.

[Perfect35]

Sometimes i just wonder how some people manage to write so many articles at the same time and it baffles me that, some of those who really devoted their time into writing, might not write more than two. Which then mean that some managers do not do through work, when it comes to access some of these entries. Then bounty hunters also have a lot to do in this regards.

[premiumproductss]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

I stopped writing blog artciles. Because you create a high quality review and put it on your estabilished blog and you will receive almost nothing for it because someone will make one copy paste from another work and put it on 7 blogs and he will receive much bigger reward than you .

[landoffaucets]

I see that more and more bounty managers are scamming bounty campaigns. They received payment from the team, but they didn´t do they work - managing the bounty campaign. I am talking about Smauni, MS bounty, Sylon and many more .

[TomiJerry]

It would be ideal to immediately find a reliable manager who adheres to strict rules for all participants. And, of course, many rewards require the use of KYC to exclude those who want to receive other people's rewards. And it will not be superfluous to carefully check your data in the tables at registration

[crzy]

I see that more and more bounty managers are scamming bounty campaigns. They received payment from the team, but they didn´t do they work - managing the bounty campaign. I am talking about Smauni, MS bounty, Sylon and many more .

So many project that is being mismanaged by the managers and its sad for a developer to encounter such irresponsible user. Developer should also make effort on looking for a good manager, and as a bounty hunter let’s continue helping the DT’s to fight for any scammed projects.

[publicjud]

It's a crypto money area and there is no regulation. It's quite obvious outcome for such environment and conditions. Hopefully there will be some improvements with a new STO period.

[codegnome]

Bounty hunters should also check the project and the bounty manager. A lot of users join the campaign even after its end, what means that they do not even check basic information at all. If bounty hunters will support scam projects, it will never stop. Before joining campaign check very well who is behind the project!

[Thyristor]

Bot accounts is big problem in the recent all of the bounties project. Responsible manager check every entry in manually and sometimes it's difficult to detect scammer because i see in many telegram campaign total entry is 15K to 20K. Just you make a sense how manager can check it manually. Scammers manipulated specially airdrop and telegram campaign. Translation entry is too low, so it's possible to check carefully.

[trader34]

Yes, bounties are a problem right now. Too many scams and people that are not getting paid. Now more than ever, we need to pay attention to where we decide to participate and to the project we choose.

[Christinebeauty]

Every bounty manager is aware of the possible entry of bots in the campaign but they just ignore them and allow them to have their way through because they feel too lazy to check all these things.

[slaman29]

Every bounty manager is aware of the possible entry of bots in the campaign but they just ignore them and allow them to have their way through because they feel too lazy to check all these things.

I agree with this particular statement, that bots are very easy to detect, or even multi accounts held by the same string of people. But this is why I see a huge difference in quality of: the campaign; the manager; the participants.

But don't underestimate the ability of organized criminals to get smarter. I've seen even famous managers only discover scammers after being alerted. It is a tough job even if they're not lazy.

[Golftech]

Bounty hunters should also check the project and the bounty manager. A lot of users join the campaign even after its end, what means that they do not even check basic information at all. If bounty hunters will support scam projects, it will never stop. Before joining campaign check very well who is behind the project!

That's annoying, there's several threads regarding to bounty that we can see those post, irresponsible bounty hunters needs to be changed, before  we engaged to any bounty projects, we need to read everything under the rules and follow each grounds, both Managers and Hunters needs to work alongside for much smooth and successful outcome.

[enhu]

I use to write articles but if they can translate articles into hundred more to other language then those guys can earn bounties without doing anything. That is just a killer lol
Bounty Manager should just accept English if they are too lazy to check which article is being spin and presented to them some other language.  This will be an added work load though so its best to just accept what can be understood by all. Only English.

[DominickA86]

I think the main problem is that there are a lot of cheaters that are using multi accounts at the same bounty to earn bigger rewards. I think KYC solves all this problems and you can also proof that it was your article because you have added it to the spreadsheet first.

[Nasonn]

The major problem of crime in bounties is those who run multi accounts, I've seen a situation where someone registered about 100 accounts in a single bounty. This is where kyc in bounty is advisable because it eliminates most of the cheats.

[AzureDragon]

I think the main problem is that there are a lot of cheaters that are using multi accounts at the same bounty to earn bigger rewards. I think KYC solves all this problems and you can also proof that it was your article because you have added it to the spreadsheet first.

KYC procedure is acceptable for trusted ICO / projects. Sending your personal data to unknown person / group is not the best idea.
Or bounty organizers should also disclose their persons to the participants, like KYBM (Know Your Bounty Manager) procedure

[CryptoAlphaStar]

There is one way to stop this - by implementing KYC. This will weed out the bots, because for every payment there will be an ID. But bounty hunters don't like KYC, too. Because this is even the more dangerous organised crime - some fake ICOs that collect personal data and steal identities through whitelists.

[royalfestus]

Is now the duty of every bounty hunter to look out for scammers or else all real participants will be deprived of there full rewards. Mangers also need to engage in frequent sorting out of scammers and in some cases managers encourage it with delayed update of spreadsheets and activities .

[Ozero]

The problem of bot activity in bounty ICO campaigns does exist. However, it is quite possible to cope with it, using even the available methods on this forum. However, in essence, the ICO teams are not interested in fighting them. For them, it is important that the ICO signature campaigns write quality messages with their advertising for the ICO project. Poor messages, they can not be counted. In principle, I do not think this is a big problem. Now there is enough work for everyone.

[Thanasis]

Bounty managers are allocating the stakes for translation campaign as well but we need to accept that he don't know actually many languages so he don't fidn if they just translated it or did by their own effort so it is better to have reporting campaign which give special rewards to the people who reporting any scamming activities from that bounty participants.

[Teamfearless]

This is really  sad because project manager  and bounty  manager  are losing trust in bounty hunter . Automatic and bot system are really destroying the games .. sometimes you can a telegram of 40k  but when u post in the group then no one seems to reply you because the group is full of bots  ..  its time for bounty manager to do hard work to fish those bot out ..

[KryptoKai]

The worst bounty is the telegram bounties. It is clearly bots that swallow up the spreadsheet and it's obvious because they all register at the same time. They should be deleted but the bounty manager just leaves them be

[AzureDragon]

I think KYC procedure can't resolve the problem at all. Often KYC procedure in bounties is to use just scan of primary document like passport. For example many bank and insurance staff have an access to a lot of that documents. So they easely can use fake personal data.

[Sundaey]

I think you are right about the bounty managers, if a campaign spreadsheet is updated time to time you hardly see those cheaters existing in such campaigns. Have done more than two projects where I found that my bitcointalk username is already registered with someone else details.

[kaito.]

mostly bounty manager only care about the number of participant that join bounty they manage, they didn't even bother to check is their participant doing their task properly or just spaming all they check was their report.
so to solve this problem
1. they should limit bounty participant.
2. start KYC at the start of bounty to discern real hunter and cheater that using multi account.
3. increase their man power to really check every post or comment that hunter made.
4. spam post or comment will made hunter removed all their stakes from bounty.

[Idrisu]

This is really very bad and it means bounties is bringing bad name to cryptocurrencies than icos itself.  Since June last year I refuse to invest in icos and since November last year I have abandoned bounties because of the scaming activities in it.

[edmundo]

I think this fraudulent practices associated with bounty hunting comes from all the way up. It is being perpetuated by even the bounty managers. When project gives them rewards for hunters, they often tend to keep a whole for themselves and then distribute very little to the hunters hence shortchanging them for tasks performed. I am not saying this act is done by all bounty managers, there are still some credible ones out there but most of them aren't credible. Recently, I participated in a bounty that got maximum participation but the BM distributed just 20% of the allocation and kept the balance of 80% all to himself. This rot goes way down and it seems nothing can be done about it.

[Koadharber]

This is my first time knowing those things! I think scammers would really do everything for a huge amount of money even it took a lot of effort
I encountered a bounty spreadsheet flooded by fake information for telegram campaign, probably a scammers doing.

Scammers finding ways to cheat in a Bounty Campaigns to earn huge amount of tokens some of them using another participants username to cheat,so much better that the project conduct KYC so that no cheaters cannot make any crime's in a Campaign.

[Gary Levanevskii]

I think that it will be difficult to fight with multi-accounts in social networks. If you make a restriction on the number of participants, this may not give such advertising as may be if there are many users in the bounty.

[Rockkey]

These are all rather necessary remarks, but first of all all these recommendations should be addressed to bounty managers. Because it depends on them for the most part that all the necessary conditions are met in order to prevent random people or bots from getting into the bounty.

[PuertoLibre]

I think that it will be difficult to fight with multi-accounts in social networks. If you make a restriction on the number of participants, this may not give such advertising as may be if there are many users in the bounty.

There are different type of scammers so finding them one by one is not feasible solution. Applying KYC is better idea because of filtering cheaters before distributing tokens. Bounty payments are used for dumping token's price which has high role for development of project.

[Ini35]

I have always know airdrops tone full on bots, so I am not surprised at that.
At some points, I used to wonder how some people got their tokens in million, while the normal distribution per individual us just in hundred.
This also extended to bounty and a lot of not accounts on social media bounty.
The bounties that could not use bot were impersonating, duplicating other people's entries.

[Dannev]

You stated it nicely. To add to that, bounty managers should also close the forms for new entries once it's one week to the end of the bounty. That's when most of the said scammers enter good bounties.

[plr]

There's big money to be made in bounties but that was then now with so many bounty participants in article and content making you hardly can hardly make decent earnings and sometimes these campaign turn out to be a scam ICO or a big failure in the market.

[Bloodseekers]

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

But i think, im not agree or no3. There are still many legit airdrop, so airdrop not wasting time. And also the task is so simple

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...

I agree with last poin, sometimes bounty manager not update the stake. Also some managers provide stakes evenly without checking one by one

For me join in bountyhive is one of the solution, their support is so good and so active so they can help give information about the project

[Red_Evil]

This is my first time knowing those things! I think scammers would really do everything for a huge amount of money even it took a lot of effort
I encountered a bounty spreadsheet flooded by fake information for telegram campaign, probably a scammers doing.

Scammers finding ways to cheat in a Bounty Campaigns to earn huge amount of tokens some of them using another participants username to cheat,so much better that the project conduct KYC so that no cheaters cannot make any crime's in a Campaign.

It is true that doing KYC minimizes the occurrence of fraud in following the bounty, but still can be tricked by using other people's identities because KYC can still be manipulated.

[Saisher]

It's still up to bounty manager's skill to trace those cheaters, if the bounty manager is working alone it will be hard to trace all those bounty hunters who cheat the bounty, this is one of the reasons why should hire staff to fully check all the submissions

[gowobonyok]

isn't Kyc made to minimize the occurrence of this kind of scammer? if you can't solve this problem, then there must be something safer.

[investtra]

Thank you for your submission because it opens our eyes to be more careful in doing work. There are many scammers in the crypto world. And that certainly makes it difficult for all bounty hunters and decreases the quality of prizes.

[inanilujimi]

this is the digital world, in this forum it's full of scamming.
As for the way you conveyed above, it might only be able to reduce the scamming but can't stop them.
I agree with you we must care more about being able to build a good and strong community.

[lavoncoin88]

this scammer is big shit in the bounty campaign, they want to get income from other works and so disgusting and incouraging also  that until now this was not yet stop. Hope this forum found the solution to block those scammers continue to expand population in this forum.

[pungopete468]

this scammer is big shit in the bounty campaign, they want to get income from other works and so disgusting and incouraging also  that until now this was not yet stop. Hope this forum found the solution to block those scammers continue to expand population in this forum.

It is not only the bounty that must be changed, but actually it is also included in the project itself, which also has to have a new system. currently there are so many projects that are indicated to be scams

[rosepetals]

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

It really is, but most people have no idea what’s happening. They think bounty hunters are lazy, but we are not!! It the scammers and bounty managers who are lazy.

Right mate we the bounty hunters tried our best to promote the project wholeheartedly inorder that the project become succesful.

[chocopapaya]

Well, if you are going to make such huge accusations where is your proof?
If I just use common sense and logic I can see a lot wrong with what you are saying.

There is no way they are making 100s of thousands of dollars.
Shitcoins are still shitcoins.
Try and name 5 successful ICOS from 2018 and 2019 that have had successful bounties?
In fact, can you even name one?
Instead, the bounty and airdrop world keeps coughing up 100s of no value projects.
Even the ones that manage to finish their ico have their tokens have no value.

Even if you were to have an elaborate network of scammers and copiers, doesn't matter how much coin you get if that coin is worth just one satoshi.

In my mind, if there are people doing this, then they have got to be the most inneffective scammers out there lol.

[Quintrix]

It's understandable there is huge money to be made from bounty hunting two years ago a lot of people made a lot of money from the earlier bounty and so many groups have shifted to crypto bounty hunting in the hope that they will rake a lot of money.

[libert19]

This explains ICO projects having thousand members but no activity in group whatsoever. I guess this is why airdrops require KYC nowadays (that's shame but good way to prevent multiple sign ups).

[tuanytcc]

Where there is a smell of money, there will be scams and we can't avoid them, there is only a way is to live with it

[Prompyboo]

I am sure that everyone who is doing his job well, even with so many scammers, will make good money in the bounty campaign market

[ronwewee]

this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

In fact, these users are actually hiring professional coders in order to create bots which I can say, those who destroys the reputation of bounty hunting industry here in cryptocurrency space.

[DR_Vladislav]

This is a real problem all industry is facing,  i think if managers and hunters follow your advice steps scammers will be minimise.

[ibrahim160994]

many use more than one account to participate in a bounty program, but until now no organization has really taken care of this problem, but I see admin here helping find scammers, and they have managed to deal with multiple accounts, it must be done

[chits]

Organized crime comes from the team, if the organizers are in the shadows and it’s difficult to contact them, you shouldn’t trust them. An experienced player can quickly feel the bluff in a lively dialogue with developers than in correspondence.

[bountylayomi]

Any one found cheating under the bounty ecosystem should be seriously deal with, I think with this move the rate at which the scamming is being done and organised will be reduced.

[babicena14]

I think it will be very useful to learn for beginners. I have seen many times how bounty managers treated their work not very responsibly and charged tokens to scammers who stole other people's articles and translated them into several languages. But in addition, there are thousands of ways to cheat and we have to protect themselves and independently monitor such accounts and report them to the administration.

[iyah adrian]

I think it will be very useful to learn for beginners. I have seen many times how bounty managers treated their work not very responsibly and charged tokens to scammers who stole other people's articles and translated them into several languages. But in addition, there are thousands of ways to cheat and we have to protect themselves and independently monitor such accounts and report them to the administration.

But usually those who use other people's work must be the rank of newbie or brand new. That is very difficult to report. Because people cheat using only the eth address. Actually it is unfortunate that participants take other people's work by changing it in language again. The bounty manager should be more careful in examining articles in particular.

[CryptoKush]

I agree with you. Now there are very few good projects and if the projects are good, then the multi accounts will receive most of the rewards. I think it will be very difficult to fight this.

[Prompyboo]

Any one found cheating under the bounty ecosystem should be seriously deal with, I think with this move the rate at which the scamming is being done and organised will be reduced.

there have already been attempts to deal with scammers in bounty campaigns, but as a rule, this does not lead to any result. waste of time

[distr@yopmail.com]

Any one found cheating under the bounty ecosystem should be seriously deal with, I think with this move the rate at which the scamming is being done and organised will be reduced.

there have already been attempts to deal with scammers in bounty campaigns, but as a rule, this does not lead to any result. waste of time

as early as possible will be a lot of people thinking the same as you. but take a look at in a long period of time, if this went ahead and cared for all of us will benefit from it. not now but in a long time.

[levyashin]

The biggest problem is bounty managers are lazy and not really checking what people are doing.

But on the other hand, tokens value dropping %99 is not bounty hunters fault. Most of the times, ico owners giving out a massive amount of tokens, to partners, to freelancers, to advisors and etc. And when they dump, it is 10s of bigger than bounty hunters can do.

[Outlander]

Thank you for your news. In order to pay attention to the quality of project promotion, I believe that many projects are trying to avoid the opportunity for robots to get airdrops.

[Bitbtc8]

Either airdrops or bounties only the strong will survive ,gone are the days when you can depend on a bounty because you won't just know what you will get ,either you get cheated of your rewards by bounty managers or the project you joined turned scammed or even the hardcap is never met,nothing is reliable anymore in crypto space

[laredo7mm]

Counterfeiting, from the participants to the ico, is now happening, so in my opinion not only the bounty hunter, but the projeck maker also deserves to be blamed because they are also investors who are down to trust.

[ifightformerkel]

Recently, interest in bounty campaigns has fallen, both from bounty hunters and bounty managers. Therefore, verification of participants is often not carried out and fraudsters take advantage of this situation by participating with hundreds of accounts at the same time. No one but ourselves can affect this situation, we must defend our own awards and expose the scammers.

[bonker]

Hiring the person who can be capable of handling all these task is the only solution to remove this scammers but sadly the project team don't even have enough money to hire campaign managers then dumping their tokens by these huge amount of newbie accounts.

[Jpti]

Yes the problem is real and is affecting the entire crypto community in a way or another. This is a real problem that needs to be taken into consideration and steps should be taken to address it. I have also faced many such problems as a bounty hunter. I have been deceived by many projects by not rewarding my rewards. Strict regulations should be in place.

[Mrcharles]

It's quite unfortunate that some people derive passion in cheating and scamming others. A system should be set up to detect bots use for carrying out bounties and airdrop. It's unfair for bounty hunters to spend time and resources carrying out tasks only for one person to use bots to gather all the tokens. I do hope that this organised crime in bounties be eliminated.

[mrdeposit]

Yes the problem is real and is affecting the entire crypto community in a way or another. This is a real problem that needs to be taken into consideration and steps should be taken to address it. I have also faced many such problems as a bounty hunter. I have been deceived by many projects by not rewarding my rewards. Strict regulations should be in place.

Bounties need a new breath, otherwise it is going to be something unnecessary. It is also impossible to make a profit. And if we consider that it is difficult for projects to reach softcap, unless there is benefit to both sides, it is better not to be.

[DAVETUN]

Regulation and policy  formulations are the solutions to organized crime in bounties, I feel in the near future developer must be contact to adhere to agreed plan on the project, Bounties is going into extinction.

[coinbirds]

Good BMs care for their campaigns and asking for authentication posts on BT and/or on telegram to filter out the bots.
Their methods are sophisticated but it is important to fight against them.

[JeBro]

I didn’t even think that such sophisticated methods of the bounty campaigns participation results falsifying take place. If this is really true, then KYC verification procedure should be implemented for all bounty hunters  without any exception.

[cchub]

This is an important accusation that must be looked into by all bounty program organizers.

[stealth.cash]

99% the project creators them self are scammers, you think they would care? The scammer bots only make them legitimate and they even wish that would happen so they don't pay people to do it. Or even this was intended by them self, the project creator or the bots they're paying.

[fuer44]

I think now there must be special staff who oversee bounty activities, either the participation of the participants or the development team. it will be fairer, and between participants and the development team already have their respective duties. but if it doesn't cost more during ico.

[ringgo96]

Thank you for your news. In order to pay attention to the quality of project promotion, I believe that many projects are trying to avoid the opportunity for robots to get airdrops.

But the problem for participants at this time must also be noticed where they themselves also get a lot of losses due to the decline in the quality of the current project, as we know that currently there are so many project scams that exist

[ned.ryerson]

I think now there must be special staff who oversee bounty activities, either the participation of the participants or the development team. it will be fairer, and between participants and the development team already have their respective duties. but if it doesn't cost more during ico.

it must be present, and it will be better is the scam in bounty campaigns will be as a crime and team can be arested

[Metall303]

99% the project creators them self are scammers, you think they would care? The scammer bots only make them legitimate and they even wish that would happen so they don't pay people to do it. Or even this was intended by them self, the project creator or the bots they're paying.

it's just that each of us needs to create unique content that some bots cannot copy. I am sure that very soon the bounty in which bots are used will stop to exist, and only tasks will remain in which you will be needed to create unique content

[sctunter]

agree with you, many peoples using fake account to join airdrop
Greedy all that i can say, and of course it cheating the team and developer too

[maculeth]

for admin or bounty manager, you should often see bounty activity when running, whether it's on a thread, telegram, or other group. so that you can update, and you see unnatural activities from participants. often the occurrence of scam or spam from participants is due to low supervision of participants.

[raidarksword]

Sad but it is all true what you said about and these things making a bad image to all bounty hunters that doing a great job to make an ico projects successful but these are targeted by scammers want to fool investors in a scheme. For this reason no more investors wanted to participate on ICO and they lost faith on it.

[Absolutep]

Infact,this can be frustrating,people using fake and multiple account to deprive genuine account user what should have been a reward to them,i guess bounty managers need to do alot of work on that.

[Zooplus]

It's nice of you, thank you for sharing it.
I agree, bounty managers since they are managing the campaign, they need to make sure they aren't promoting scam projects,
bounty hunters does not make a lot of research, as long as they will be paid, they will join.

[jvper]

Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Bounty campaigns managers must take care of this situation, otherwise bounty campaigns will beome pointless and only a leak of funds for the companies.

[shoreno]

It's nice of you, thank you for sharing it.
I agree, bounty managers since they are managing the campaign, they need to make sure they aren't promoting scam projects,
bounty hunters does not make a lot of research, as long as they will be paid, they will join.

What you are saying is so true but the problem will expected to persist because both bounty hunters and managers are only working for the cash and they would not really mind if the project that they are working on is a scam  . im not saying all but most of them for sure  especially if the campaign reward is too high enough .  

Organized crime on bounty do also happen sometimes when the owner is and the manager as well as the promoters are all the same or owned by the same person  . it can be simillar as to an inside job  .

[steveabrahams]

All points that you said are good OP, but it's back to the bounty manager again. I mean, sometimes the bounty manager is so slow (no offense) to check and update the participants. I know they are super busy, but please at least spare some time to check all those cheaters.

[Bitbtc8]

Bots are huge enemies for bounties if really people are using them and that is plain bad,imagine if half of participants are bots leaving the only few humans the remaining pool allocation ,I hope something can be done about this to detect them and block them ,I hope bounty hunters will take there job very serious and be on look out for these criminals

[zauna35]

I also want to add that inexperienced bounty managers make google spreadsheet without worrying about security and scammers now just fix their wallets in google spreadsheets with their own ... more about your advice to keep an eye on the spreadsheets and report, now unfortunately it often happens that and inform, and the reaction from managers is zero or inadequate ... maybe you just need to work only with proven bounty managers, but now the choice is very small and the bounty as such disappears, they are replaced by an office bounty with KYC, with a referral link and a small reward ..the sphere of bounty due to scammers dies and has become irrelevant for honest people

[sergiokkl]

Yes  there are problem like this around us, some are filling out the form such signature form in order to get stakes without work. Just change the wallet address of course, well for us the owner of the sccount kindly check it weekly and report to the manager to erase the name. But for me dont psrticipate in this kind of project which bounty manager cant do the job. You will esrn nothing because his not good at managing campaign. Anyway we have a good list of manager which real good in bounty management

[||bit]

Actually organized crime is a little bit exaggerate the situtation.

Yes they are scamming bounties but the biggest guilt is caused by bounty managers. If they do their jobs good, there won't be such a problem. Even with a duplicate check it is very easy to find crazy amount of fake entries.