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January 25, 2013, 06:58:48 AM
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There is indeed the message indicating that the request was generated and queued. But nothing else. No new entry in the transactions list, and no BTC transaction, even now, after about 1 hour. When I reload the "funds" tab, of course then the green message is gone, but still no entry in the Transactions list.

Actually I've never seen a new entry in the transactions list before also the real BTC transaction was propagated to the network. So maybe there is some problem just with some browsers, or just some acconts. I am using Firefox 17.0.1 on Ubuntu.

Confirm this.
From this moment, you can see it in the Transaction table, at the bottom of the Funds table.
This is not happening.
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January 25, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
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From this moment, you can see it in the Transaction table, at the bottom of the Funds table. To the right of it will be its status. Nothing for pending/unprocessed transactions, link to the corresponding transaction for a successfull payout, or rejection if there were not enough money.
Unfortunately, neither the pending nor the rejected transactions appear in the transaction table.  I am 100% about the pending, and 95% sure about the rejected transactions not appearing - at least I have had transactions rejected (or at least never going through) in the past, and never showing up.   I guess there is a small bug here. Smiley
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January 25, 2013, 08:35:59 PM
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 I guess there is a small bug here. Smiley
Allright, bug report accepted, going to investigate and fix Wink

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January 25, 2013, 08:57:37 PM
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Feature request:

Ability for me to cause a new deposit address to be generated for my account.  

Currently, the blockchain shows all my deposits to a single Bitcoin address that get credited to my wallet at ICBIT.

The whole concept of there being a new Bitcoin address for each transaction is so that privacy is maximized.    Because the wallet is a hosted (shared) EWallet, the funds I deposit will likely be withdrawn by someone else, thus there are clues out there that the address is associated with ICBIT deposits and those addresses might get scrutinized further to try to determine the identity or other clues about who is the party responsible.

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January 26, 2013, 12:12:20 AM
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 I guess there is a small bug here. Smiley
Allright, bug report accepted, going to investigate and fix Wink

Meanwhile Alex from ICBIT support answered to my PM showing me the internal deatils visible in the DB.
Also, we did another experiment. The situation seems to be as follows
  • the decision about allowing or rejecting a withdrawal is done on the server, and might happen a bit later -- and the available margin at that moment is what counts. Due to fluctuations in open positions, a pending request might be rejected.
  • however, only withdrawals associated with a bitcoin transaction seem to show up in the transactions list. Neither pending requests, nor rejected requests are visible -- at least in those Firefox versions I was able to try.
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January 28, 2013, 06:59:29 PM
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With around 2 weeks to go before settlement of GDG3 and CLG3 I am wondering if they will be replaced by new series, or if the volumes has been too low.

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January 29, 2013, 01:02:00 AM
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...or if the volumes has been too low.

an iliquid market can both be a drawback or a benefit.
It was both harder to get in and out of an Oil (or even more Gold) furures position. For example, during that smack down the last days, the effect on CLG or GDG was only marginal, which IMHO was a good thing.
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January 29, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
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however, only withdrawals associated with a bitcoin transaction seem to show up in the transactions list. Neither pending requests, nor rejected requests are visible -- at least in those Firefox versions I was able to try.[/li][/list]

This is fixed now, and all rejected and pending BTC withdrawals will show up in your Transactions table.

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January 29, 2013, 04:26:53 PM
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...or if the volumes has been too low.

an iliquid market can both be a drawback or a benefit.
It was both harder to get in and out of an Oil (or even more Gold) furures position. For example, during that smack down the last days, the effect on CLG or GDG was only marginal, which IMHO was a good thing.

Agreed.  I was asking because I am hoping that new series will appear.  Wink
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January 30, 2013, 02:04:10 AM
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I was asking because I am hoping that new series will appear.  Wink

me can haz future oil ?
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January 30, 2013, 09:19:33 AM
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This is fixed now, and all rejected and pending BTC withdrawals will show up in your Transactions table.
They do indeed.  Thank you very much for fixing this!
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January 31, 2013, 05:37:29 PM
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How this could be? Huh
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January 31, 2013, 05:38:16 PM
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Extra clearing will happen only if the spot BTC/USD rate goes above the current futures trading range ($22.11 per 1 BTC today).

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January 31, 2013, 05:58:11 PM
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Why the "last price" is higher than trading range?
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January 31, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
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I seem to be misunderstanding something: I'm trying to submit a sell order on BUH3: 1 for 22.50. Page says: "specified price is not within allowed range". Can someone explain that to me?

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January 31, 2013, 06:12:43 PM
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Why the "last price" is higher than trading range?
This price will not be used to issue margin calls. I will fix it so that it remains within trading range boundaries.

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January 31, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
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This price will not be used to issue margin calls. I will fix it so that ...
Sorry, but then what the word "last" means? I thought it is the price of the last deal of the futures contract  Roll Eyes
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January 31, 2013, 06:47:24 PM
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This price will not be used to issue margin calls. I will fix it so that ...
Sorry, but then what the word "last" means? I thought it is the price of the last deal of the futures contract  Roll Eyes

Yes, however if there were no deals within recent N minutes, it's computed as the middle between best ask and best bid, to track the market move and manage risks.

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February 02, 2013, 04:31:57 PM
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Does anybody know how Initial Margin is calculated as a function of the price?
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February 02, 2013, 07:59:11 PM
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Does anybody know how Initial Margin is calculated as a function of the price?

The formula is empiric, however, now it's 75% of the maximum possible variation margin within given trading limits.

Or using simple words: if one buys 1 contract at the highest price of the trading range, and then sells it at the lowest possible price - this gives max. possible loss for the current session. Variation margin is set to 75% of this percent.

Now, for example, if you want to buy 100 contracts worth of $1000 in total, the initial margin required would be 7 BTC (or roughly $140).

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