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January 06, 2017, 07:41:11 PM
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Volatility can be a major concern with Bitcoin. Look at the exchange rates during the past 24-hours. In BTC-e, it hit $880 after going up to $1,100. Volatility of almost 20% in a single day. With gold, the maximum volatility is in the range of 2-3%.
Just to remember you that the 1100 dollars has been achieved after 8-10 days when the pump at bitcoin started at December, soo it hadnt been into on single day, the loss happened into some hours, but the recovery will take weeks or months till we get back the 4 digit once again. I will always choose bitcoin, since it has huge potencial something i doubt gold has, gold has achieved full potencial as i know on the last years, and now its a manipulated asset.
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January 06, 2017, 07:42:52 PM
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Volatility can be a major concern with Bitcoin. Look at the exchange rates during the past 24-hours. In BTC-e, it hit $880 after going up to $1,100. Volatility of almost 20% in a single day. With gold, the maximum volatility is in the range of 2-3%.
It is just the ups and downs because of the sales on bitcoins on the exchanges. If people will continue to use bitcoin as their normal currency and will not throw their coins to exchanges then it will not happen which happened today and you will see that within a few days it will start rising again and expert traders are actively buying bitcoins today when they saw the price at lower value.
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January 07, 2017, 04:16:47 AM
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Volatility can be a major concern with Bitcoin. Look at the exchange rates during the past 24-hours. In BTC-e, it hit $880 after going up to $1,100. Volatility of almost 20% in a single day. With gold, the maximum volatility is in the range of 2-3%.
It is just the ups and downs because of the sales on bitcoins on the exchanges. If people will continue to use bitcoin as their normal currency and will not throw their coins to exchanges then it will not happen which happened today and you will see that within a few days it will start rising again and expert traders are actively buying bitcoins today when they saw the price at lower value.
I expect that to happen, as an investor our focus should be the future of bitcoin and since the price is dropping now, maybe we take some time to buy. It's an opportunity we do not need to miss.

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January 07, 2017, 04:25:03 AM
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It seems to me that gold a better chance to survive all the crises of economic and even natural disasters.

You are absolutely right with that, if you don't want to take the risk of investing with bitcoin then just go for investing in gold.  Because in bitcoin the price is stable and we cannot guarantee that the price will stay, so if you are hoping to have some good profit in the end, its up to you if you are going to rely with btc or gold.

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January 07, 2017, 06:16:21 AM
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They are totally different assets class.

Gold is the most stable assets class after cash, but it's also the least performance yielding. Hence the idea of gold is to protect against inflation. Buying gold is like have a different kind of cash which sits in the bank. Buying shares or real estates are active assets which you can rent or hold part of a company hence they generate active income.

Gold is great for stability and protection, but it's bad for investments. When you have tonnes of money like a retirement fund or some rich government, gold becomes an important instrument because you cannot dump a few billion in and out of the stock market, not even the dark pool - it will spook everyone.

Bitcoin is in the other spectrum of the assets class which is highly volatile. Yes, it is also a currency which sits there and does nothing, but it's a new unproven currency and with it comes alot of speculation and potential, people are buying into possibilities.

So choosing between gold or bitcoin is a like choosing between caesar salad and a 2kg waygu steak Wink
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January 07, 2017, 08:43:25 AM
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Gold is at from stable. There is plenty of volatility in gold prices. Compared to Bitcoin it may look more stable, but any gold chart of sufficient length will give you enough data to see that gold suffers from volatility in the short run.

At least when compared to Bitcoin, gold is far more stable. One of the reasons is that the market cap of gold is between $5 and $6 trillion, while that of Bitcoin is less than $15 billion. So for a 1% change in the gold price, there must be at least $50 billion worth of market cap change.

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January 07, 2017, 12:23:30 PM
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I would always choose bitcoin than gold. Though gold has been for centuries, still bitcoin has potential to give good returns. You could see the tremendous rise in bitcoin price. It has not yet made upset any of its holders.
Bitcoin price is so fluctuative and volatile. But so many countries were accept bitcoin now, so I think bitcoin is secure. Gold is apropriate for long term investment. If I only have small amount of money I will choose bitcoin.

Yes the bitcoin is also more profitable on a short term and due to that I also would choose for the bitcoin, I'm not having the patient for gold.

Bitcoin isn't just profitable on short term it can also be profitable in the long term. But it is better if you have that enough budget for investing, you can try to invest both of it at the same time. Because if the time now is for bitcoin sooner or later the time for gold is going to come also. Better to be secure with these two investments.
i think in present time as the price of bitcoin is trading in a high rate therefore short term term investment is a little more risky as compare to long term investment, in lost term investment at least you do not care for the price increase. and can wait for a long time.
i am agree with you, i think long term investment is all time good and safe investment, if you want to invest your money specially in present time then you need to invest for long time because the price of bitcoin will reach to more and more high price in future.

Don't be confident when talking about long term investment basically it is just the same with short investment when it comes to risk management. And remember there is no safe investment at all, most of them has risk and chance of collapsing. It is just going to depend on how you are going to play and manage it whether it is bitcoin or gold.

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January 07, 2017, 01:20:34 PM
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Gold is at from stable. There is plenty of volatility in gold prices. Compared to Bitcoin it may look more stable, but any gold chart of sufficient length will give you enough data to see that gold suffers from volatility in the short run.

At least when compared to Bitcoin, gold is far more stable. One of the reasons is that the market cap of gold is between $5 and $6 trillion, while that of Bitcoin is less than $15 billion. So for a 1% change in the gold price, there must be at least $50 billion worth of market cap change.

this is why people will choose gold as the best investment, but for me, as i can not buy gold for now, i will choose bitcoin rather than gold because we can easily to earn bitcoin from many ways. and i think if in someday i have much of money, i will buy gold too like what people do. i think its a good thing if we have bitcoin and gold at the same time as we can have two type of investment for long term.

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If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.
may be bitcoin because price of bitcoin alway change ..
10 years again may be can 2/3 fold or more

 
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January 07, 2017, 01:46:47 PM
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If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.
may be bitcoin because price of bitcoin alway change ..
10 years again may be can 2/3 fold or more
Well, if the price of bitcoin fell continuously, I am afraid people will glance at the gold, and re-investment in gold. I suppose it could also be bad for bitcoin. for now, I see that bitcoin is still better than gold, however, I think at this point people are selling bitcoin at a cheap price. This might result in many investors re-invest the money they have into gold.
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My opinion, if you want long-term investment, you should choose gold. If you want to explore and make more money, choose Bitcoin

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January 07, 2017, 02:19:01 PM
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I'd rather save in Gold its more reliable anything can happen with this crypto-curriences.
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January 07, 2017, 07:01:31 PM
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Gold is at from stable. There is plenty of volatility in gold prices. Compared to Bitcoin it may look more stable, but any gold chart of sufficient length will give you enough data to see that gold suffers from volatility in the short run.

At least when compared to Bitcoin, gold is far more stable. One of the reasons is that the market cap of gold is between $5 and $6 trillion, while that of Bitcoin is less than $15 billion. So for a 1% change in the gold price, there must be at least $50 billion worth of market cap change.

You obviously omit a few important things

First, the market cap of both gold and Bitcoin reflects the total amount of these assets, produced or mined, respectively, while the price is determined by the amount traded. We don't know how many bitcoins are traded, while with gold it is only a small part of all gold out there. The rest is either stashed away for centuries, or used in jewelry and electronics as well as other industries. Further, there is a multi-trillion market of gold derivatives (so-called paper gold), which heavily distorts the price determination mechanism. In this manner, the comparison of market caps makes no particular sense

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January 07, 2017, 07:05:34 PM
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I'd rather save in Gold its more reliable anything can happen with this crypto-curriences.

It just depends on what your targets are and the level of risk you are okay exposing yourself to. If you look at both gold and Bitcoin, then risk-wise you'll be exposing yourself to the least level of risk when you choose for Gold. But then you also agree and understand that the potential profits that you will gain will be on the lower side. Other than that, gold is mostly seen as a long term store of value solution rather than an investment option.
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My opinion, if you want long-term investment, you should choose gold. If you want to explore and make more money, choose Bitcoin
but to me i think for long term investment bitcoin is the best option,  to me in short term investment there are more chances to lose your money  because the price of bitcoin can take a correction and its price can reduce a little, but after some time it is going to start rising again.
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January 07, 2017, 09:32:29 PM
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I prefer gold to be honest because I think its more secure and you will also not have to really look at the market every minute..
Gold is safe and profitable, bitcoin is risky.

right . investment with gold could be better that investment with bitcoin because as we know gold investment is more safe and secured and also has a quite stable price but i think bitcoin is not actually a bad choice because it also has big potential and a possibility rise despite of it's unstable price . maybe if i have to choose between the two i would pick both .

I would prefer both them and I also have both stocks with me, if I really have to choose I will go for the bitcoin because I simply love it it does not have a reason at the moment, its just that its very profitable on a short term.
I also do not have a reason so strong, I'm not too smart in terms of investment in gold or stocks, I did not really understand the depth of it, but all I know is about bitcoin, and bitcoin continue to provide benefits for me. then I will continue to choose bitcoin as an investment, maybe I'll try investing in gold, but I will understand it first
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I believe in bitcoin, and I believe in gold but ultimately there is only one which I would expect any sort of considerable growth upon.
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I believe in bitcoin, and I believe in gold but ultimately there is only one which I would expect any sort of considerable growth upon.

IMO, both Bitcoin and gold are capable of achieving considerable growth in their market cap, from the current values. The demand for gold is increasing, and at the same time the supply is declining. It is increasingly getting difficult to find economically viable deposits of gold.

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January 08, 2017, 02:49:04 PM
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I believe in bitcoin, and I believe in gold but ultimately there is only one which I would expect any sort of considerable growth upon.

IMO, both Bitcoin and gold are capable of achieving considerable growth in their market cap, from the current values. The demand for gold is increasing, and at the same time the supply is declining. It is increasingly getting difficult to find economically viable deposits of gold.

If you are talking about market cap surely bitcoin will not be on the last list. Assuming that the total value of all the gold in the world is $7,023,311,516,518 while total market cap of bitcoin is $14,792,426,088. Those figures are totally big but the advantage will be always with bitcoin since it is still on its early stage, I guess that amount is already an achievement and it keeps on growing.

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If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.
may be bitcoin because price of bitcoin alway change ..
10 years again may be can 2/3 fold or more
yes in fact if you want to earn some money  then try to invest your money in bitcoin, because gold is so stable and there is a very little fluctuation in the price of gold, while bitcoin price is continuously increasing.

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