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October 08, 2019, 02:21:55 AM Last edit: October 08, 2019, 02:50:32 PM by SaShiRaJaVu |
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Somehow Sri Lanka has won the T20 series which none could've expected because of ODI series winning by Pakistan as well as Pakistan sitting on the top of the Men's T20 table.
It was not a lucky coincidence that Srilanka won both the matches, they trashed Pakistan in both the matches and the star of the series is Umar Akmal with two golden ducks ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Nuwan Pradeep bowled really well in both the matches and he made all the difference by picking early wickets after Srilanka posted a good score, so it was a complete dominance from Srilanka. BTW, it is surprising that West Indies is ranked so low, despite the fact that they have some of the best T20 players in the world.
West Indies have players who performs well in domestic T20 leagues and they have a star studded power hitters and can fit into any team but the problem is that they never performed as a team and majority of these star players will not be available for selection West Indies if they are engaged in a T20 league. In short these players give more importance to the high paying T20 leagues than their national team.
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BTW, it is surprising that West Indies is ranked so low, despite the fact that they have some of the best T20 players in the world.
West have players who performs well in domestic T20 leagues and they have a star studded power hitters and can fit into any team but the problem is that they never performed as a team and majority of these star players will not be available for selection West Indies if they are engaged in a T20 league. In short these players give more importance to the high paying T20 leagues than their national team. Well.. this is true. And this issue is not just affecting West Indies, but also many of the teams such as South Africa and New Zealand as well. During the India vs West Indies series, Sunil Narine, Chris Gayle and Kieron Pollard were unavailable for most of the matches due to their commitments with the GT20 league. You can't blame them, as cricket is a career option after all and they need to take care of their finances. This will become a regular occurrence in the future. T20 leagues are sprouting up all over the world. First we had the IPL, which blocked around 2 months of the international calendar every year. Then Australia came up with the BBL and the ECB created the Vitality Blast. Later, the WICB came up with the CPL, and the Bangladeshis came up with the BPL. South Africa and Pakistan followed with the MSL and PSL respectively. Even Hong Kong, Nepal, Afghanistan and Canada have their own T20 leagues now.
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October 08, 2019, 09:18:28 AM |
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This will become a regular occurrence in the future. T20 leagues are sprouting up all over the world. First we had the IPL, which blocked around 2 months of the international calendar every year. Then Australia came up with the BBL and the ECB created the Vitality Blast. Later, the WICB came up with the CPL, and the Bangladeshis came up with the BPL. South Africa and Pakistan followed with the MSL and PSL respectively. Even Hong Kong, Nepal, Afghanistan and Canada have their own T20 leagues now.
I feel like many cricketers retired from international cricket to prolong their career to play in these leagues world wide as they pay a much bigger pay scale and they gets more time to spend with their family, we cannot blame them for their choice in life, i felt if there was no league like these we would have seen players like AB de Villiers playing for their national team much longer.
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Is Chief Selector Mishab backing both of them for T-20 World Cup? You can not predict anything LOL We will see. He's Chief Selector and Coach so he's the only reason Akmal and Shahjad are in the squad. i don't follow PCL so not sure if both of them are top performer or not. IMO instead of them he could give chance to younger players. We have only one year for T-20 World Cup so clock is ticking.. (18 Oct 2020) ~Edited Cute Image~
We have seen enough of him in WC and now here in T20. Need a new Captain now.
I doubt that if anyone else is ready for captaincy. ~snip~ I've noticed that the presence of Umar Akmal not only damages the team by his own pathetic performance but also damages the team by completely evolving the behavior of Babar Azam ( maybe because these two are cousins?). ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) This is news for me ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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October 08, 2019, 10:02:16 AM |
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~snip~ With T20 only if the opening order give a good start the end will be successful, because each runs missed will increase the run requirement per over. This will create pressure for the last order batsmen. This can be fulfilled only if the scoring is done above the requirement by the opening order players.
Not in T20 format but all sorts of formats. Opening partnership and middle order needs to perform if a team wants to win a match. Somehow Sri Lanka has won the T20 series which none could've expected because of ODI series winning by Pakistan as well as Pakistan sitting on the top of the Men's T20 table. I disagree with this somehow word. I have not seen the first T20 but looking at the one yesterday, I can tell that Sri Lanka won the match in fashioned. Pakistan really need to look for the wrongs they are doing. I mean really! In your own ground you do that much bad performance? Shame. He's Chief Selector and Coach so he's the only reason Akmal and Shahjad are in the squad. i don't follow PCL so not sure if both of them are top performer or not. IMO instead of them he could give chance to younger players. We have only one year for T-20 World Cup so clock is ticking.. (18 Oct 2020)
Let's see how they do in the next match. This time I am going with Sri Lanka by the way unless I see any change in the squad.
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October 08, 2019, 12:50:56 PM |
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Let's see how they do in the next match. This time I am going with Sri Lanka by the way unless I see any change in the squad.
Good choice, the odds for SL winning the final T20 is still good even though they don't give 5x or 6x now. But I'm planning to bet on Pak if they bat first and if any site gave a 2xodds. As of now, the odds are less than 1.5 ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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October 08, 2019, 01:27:25 PM |
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~snip~ BTW, it is surprising that West Indies is ranked so low, despite the fact that they have some of the best T20 players in the world.
West Indies have players who performs well in domestic T20 leagues and they have a star studded power hitters and can fit into any team but the problem is that they never performed as a team and majority of these star players will not be available for selection West Indies if they are engaged in a T20 league. In short these players give more importance to the high paying T20 leagues than their national team. I don't blame them for same. Their national board is full of political interferences. In general i do recommend a person who plays for his National and gives preference on his National duty than playing in t20 leagues. But west Indian scenario is all together different. Their board actually is not one country but cumulation of many small countries so their board suffers political conflicts player too are refrained from playing domestic leagues despite of no international fixtures. Moreover the major issue is very less monetary recognition to players. Also they aren't respected that much. All this has really turned players against the board. Board too out of arrogance has ruined the whole cricket future there.
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October 08, 2019, 03:29:51 PM |
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IMO, changing (T20) captain at this stage will only further ruin the overall team performance. Sarfaraz has been one of the most successful T20 captains for the last few years, and we've got a T20 World Cup coming up next year. I believe that Misbah's decision of selecting Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shahzad (along with Faheem Ashraf) is the core reason for this series failure. Moreover, I've noticed that the presence of Umar Akmal not only damages the team by his own pathetic performance but also damages the team by completely evolving the behavior of Babar Azam (maybe because these two are cousins?). ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Still they need to make some big changes if they need to perform better in coming tournaments. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaxjRoOp.png&t=665&c=RFDL6byRm6nsTg)
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October 08, 2019, 03:37:04 PM Last edit: October 08, 2019, 03:57:59 PM by JSRAW |
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Wisdom 101 "Losing is never good, especially against a team that is without their major players, and it's an eye-opener," Misbah said. "We can see deficiencies in every department: bowling, batting and particularly the way we got out against spin, and also our death bowling.
"There was a clear difference between the two teams. Despite being inexperienced, they were disciplined and did everything right, while we completely failed to implement our plan." That's What Misbah has to say about Akmal and Ahmed Shahzad's selection. surprise to see this statement coming from the Selector who happen to be a head coach too. don't know what message they are sending to young cricketers. Let's hope both senior players justify their place in the squad with contribution. "Both these players have performed well wherever they've played in the last one year. Ahmed's performance in PSL was remarkable enough for a chance, while Umar, whichever format he played, was among the good ones,"he said. "It's unfortunate in our circuit, there is no other batsman in T20s who had performed better than them. Players who have performed in domestic surely deserve a chance, and that's why we offered them.
"If they weren't able to perform what can be done? Obviously I am answerable, but to build up a team you need to do some experiments to get the answers. When you play someone in international cricket with a couple of games, you understand the utility of a player. We need to show some patience and wait for the next series to find answers."
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He's Chief Selector and Coach so he's the only reason Akmal and Shahjad are in the squad. i don't follow PCL so not sure if both of them are top performer or not. If my memory serves me well... They both got some runs on their back in PSL. That could explain their selection but oh boy Pakistan got thrashed in the T20s, that too by an 8th ranked team ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . No wonder why 'Unpredictable' word suits them soo much. "It's unfortunate in our circuit, there is no other batsman in T20s who had performed better than them. Players who have performed in domestic surely deserve a chance, and that's why we offered them. I call this BS. There weren't any runner ups to these 'old' farts? If that was the case why not just shut down the PSL as it is clearly not serving its purpose of 'Grooming' new talent. I love it when people Fuck up and don't want to take the blame. Misbah Fucked up with that selection and he needs to eat all the criticism he gets... smdh.
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October 08, 2019, 06:11:06 PM |
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@UmerIdrees : lol
I failed to understand why you laughing for me ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Is that my team lost to srilanka, or the article reference you gave above or any other thing ?
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October 08, 2019, 06:25:27 PM |
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@UmerIdrees : lol
I failed to understand why you laughing for me ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Is that my team lost to srilanka, or the article reference you gave above or any other thing ? Because it took me 15 mins to figure out how to quote relevant info from article with using my shitty phone only to find out that you posted same news before me. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 08, 2019, 06:59:21 PM |
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Let's see how they do in the next match. This time I am going with Sri Lanka by the way unless I see any change in the squad.
Since you are predicting Sri Lanka to win this match i am going with Pakistan to win the third T20 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I am expecting a change in the team for the third T20 and with the complete domination by Sri Lanka in the first two matches and the huge pressure from the Pakistan team management and the crowd will put pressure on the players to perform better in the third match and might win the third T20.
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October 08, 2019, 07:25:36 PM |
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Let's see how they do in the next match. This time I am going with Sri Lanka by the way unless I see any change in the squad.
Since you are predicting Sri Lanka to win this match i am going with Pakistan to win the third T20 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I am expecting a change in the team for the third T20 and with the complete domination by Sri Lanka in the first two matches and the huge pressure from the Pakistan team management and the crowd will put pressure on the players to perform better in the third match and might win the third T20. Most chances Pakistan will win third Twenty/20 because Sri Lanka is already in driving seat and now they will try to bring some player those was not in first 2 matches they already safe so third Twenty/20 is not important for them and Pakistan is also going to try something new as they are badly down and out under new management.
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October 09, 2019, 01:12:16 AM |
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This will become a regular occurrence in the future. T20 leagues are sprouting up all over the world. First we had the IPL, which blocked around 2 months of the international calendar every year. Then Australia came up with the BBL and the ECB created the Vitality Blast. Later, the WICB came up with the CPL, and the Bangladeshis came up with the BPL. South Africa and Pakistan followed with the MSL and PSL respectively. Even Hong Kong, Nepal, Afghanistan and Canada have their own T20 leagues now.
I feel like many cricketers retired from international cricket to prolong their career to play in these leagues world wide as they pay a much bigger pay scale and they gets more time to spend with their family, we cannot blame them for their choice in life, i felt if there was no league like these we would have seen players like AB de Villiers playing for their national team much longer. It is beneficial for everyone. The T20 format brings in the crowd, the sponsors and the revenue (from sponsorship, as well as from the sale of the broadcasting and streaming rights). The matches last for 3 to 3.5 hours, which is more tolerable compared to 8-8.5 hours needed for an ODI match. Therefore it suit the fans as well. That said, the retirement of AB de Villiers had nothing to do with the T20 leagues. He had a well publicized altercation with the management during the semi-final of the 2015 CWC and it was the main reason why he ended his career a few years back. https://www.cricket.com.au/news/south-africa-mike-horn-world-cup-race-quota-vernon-philander-kyle-abbott/2015-04-16Beaten at the semi-final stage by New Zealand in a thriller, controversy erupted after the team that beat Sri Lanka in the quarter-final stage was changed to include fast bowler Vernon Philander ahead of the in-form Kyle Abbott. Philander's selection raised the number of 'players of colour' – a term which encompasses black Africans, mixed-race people and those of Asian descent – to four, the same quota number that was previously implemented until it was abolished in 2007. A report in South Africa's Sunday Times the day after the World Cup final said Philander's selection came at the direction of the Cricket South Africa board https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/ab-de-villiers-2015-world-cup-semifinal-defeat-autobiography-338539-2016-09-01This is from his autobiography: So what had happened? Had Vernon, who was officially classified as coloured, been selected ahead of Kyle, who was officially white, to ensure there were four players of colour in the semifinal? Or had the decision been made for purely cricketing reasons? de Villiers was the captain back then, and this scandal had a very negative impact upon him.
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October 09, 2019, 05:37:24 AM |
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This is from his autobiography: So what had happened? Had Vernon, who was officially classified as coloured, been selected ahead of Kyle, who was officially white, to ensure there were four players of colour in the semifinal? Or had the decision been made for purely cricketing reasons? de Villiers was the captain back then, and this scandal had a very negative impact upon him. This might be a political situation and we have seen these kind of quota being implemented in many countries like Zimbabwe and South Africa . we have to get rid of these kind of issues, the only thing we have to understand is that selection process should be strictly on the merit of the player and not on the basis of the skin color. If we start picking players on the basis of color then do these buffoon characters say that NBA too needs white players and not just black players and have a distinction ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) .
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October 09, 2019, 08:14:22 AM |
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It is beneficial for everyone. The T20 format brings in the crowd, the sponsors and the revenue (from sponsorship, as well as from the sale of the broadcasting and streaming rights). The matches last for 3 to 3.5 hours, which is more tolerable compared to 8-8.5 hours needed for an ODI match. Therefore it suit the fans as well. The reason i prefer International matches in cricket is simply because i am a cricket fan who used to watch only International cricket matches when it comes to football i only watch world cup and then i watch all the club matches. In Asian countries all the cricket matches attracts good crowds and that is not specially for T20 but for ODI too. That said, the retirement of AB de Villiers had nothing to do with the T20 leagues. He had a well publicized altercation with the management during the semi-final of the 2015 CWC and it was the main reason why he ended his career a few years back.
If AB de Villiers had a fall out with the cricket board it is only because there are leagues around the world where he could play and if you are not aware of that he just joined Melbourne stars to play in the Big Bash. If there is no other option to play and make money he will not have a fall out with the cricket board .
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October 09, 2019, 09:57:13 AM |
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Let's see how they do in the next match. This time I am going with Sri Lanka by the way unless I see any change in the squad.
Since you are predicting Sri Lanka to win this match i am going with Pakistan to win the third T20 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I am expecting a change in the team for the third T20 and with the complete domination by Sri Lanka in the first two matches and the huge pressure from the Pakistan team management and the crowd will put pressure on the players to perform better in the third match and might win the third T20. Well I said unless :-P I will wait for the toss and to see the official list of the XI today. It's really risky to bet in favor of Pakistan. At least my betting history with them is not good at all. From the 2nd match I can tell that Sri Lanka looked way better team than Pakistan.
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SaShiRaJaVu
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October 09, 2019, 10:25:22 AM |
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Well I said unless :-P I will wait for the toss and to see the official list of the XI today. It's really risky to bet in favor of Pakistan. At least my betting history with them is not good at all. From the 2nd match I can tell that Sri Lanka looked way better team than Pakistan.
That is a better option because we never know what is the team composition and the team they had in ODI and T20 are different and the players who performed in ODI are not in their T20 squad, the main reason that our betting history cannot be that great is because they perform like champions one day and then they play like club players the other day and i remember i too lost some bets just like you during the world cup when Pakistan played some incredible games which we never expected ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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October 09, 2019, 01:07:03 PM |
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@UmerIdrees : lol
I failed to understand why you laughing for me ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Is that my team lost to srilanka, or the article reference you gave above or any other thing ? Because it took me 15 mins to figure out how to quote relevant info from article with using my shitty phone only to find out that you posted same news before me. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I always use my laptop to post and never tried with my phone. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I will wait for the toss and to see the official list of the XI today. It's really risky to bet in favor of Pakistan. At least my betting history with them is not good at all. From the 2nd match I can tell that Sri Lanka looked way better team than Pakistan.
Well, Pakistan has again lost the toss, so this means they will lose the match ? Yes..Noo..Yess..no..Yess..noo ...leave it...Don't bet...too risky ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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