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October 12, 2019, 08:06:55 PM
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And among them were players such as Mohammed Azharuddin and Ajay Jadeja of India and Hansie Cronje of South Africa. I don't know how you can blame Pakistan as a team.
Mohammed Azharuddin, Ajay Jadeja and Cronje match fixing scandal broke during 2000 and ten years after that there was a spot fixing scandal from Pakistan and many players were banned and then the IPL scandal in 2013, so when ever you see these performance people will naturally think about match fixing as people were cheated several times in the past.

I can confidently say that match fixing has become obsolete during the last 10-12 years.
If that is the case, Pakistan spot fixing scandal by Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir in 2010 and in 2014 Lou Vincent accepted fixing matches and then the IPL scandal in 2014 and then Sharjeel Khan was banned in 2017 for his involvement  Tongue.
The risk are always high but still people engage in match fixing but i am not telling that the recent match was fixed but match fixing is part and parcel of cricket and other sporting events.

I think we need a separate thread for Match fixing.  This is never ending debate.  Huh
Lets focus on the next T20 match please.
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October 13, 2019, 04:15:39 AM
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The Barbados Tridents  won the CPL final, after beating the Guyana Amazon Warriors by 27 runs. This time they had another successful event, but got hardly any coverage in India (as no Indian players were participating in the CPL). Some of the Pakistani players (such as Shoaib Malik) were participating, but Pakistanis also showed little interest as an international series against Sri Lanka was ongoing at the same time. 

All that aside, the Caribbean Premier League has now successfully completed 7 editions ever since it has first played in 2013. I need to congratulate the WICB for the grand success of this tournament, as many of the more powerful boards had failed to stage a similar T20 event (I am talking about the cricket boards of Sri Lanka, South Africa.etc).

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Those players who refused to tour Pakistan made a very grave mistake. Now their spots have been filled by players such as Wanindu Hasaranga, Oshada Fernando and Dasun Shanaka. It is going to be tough fight for slots in the playing XI and in my opinion, the so called "senior players" (Dimuth Karunaratne, Suranga Lakmal, Akila Dananjaya, Dinesh Chandimal, Niroshan Dickwella.etc) will now find themselves unemployed. I would say that their own arrogance led to their downfall. Now they can play domestic cricket and look for opportunities to get back to the senior side.
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October 13, 2019, 07:19:26 AM
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Those players who refused to tour Pakistan made a very grave mistake. Now their spots have been filled by players such as Wanindu Hasaranga, Oshada Fernando and Dasun Shanaka. It is going to be tough fight for slots in the playing XI and in my opinion, the so called "senior players" (Dimuth Karunaratne, Suranga Lakmal, Akila Dananjaya, Dinesh Chandimal, Niroshan Dickwella.etc) will now find themselves unemployed. I would say that their own arrogance led to their downfall. Now they can play domestic cricket and look for opportunities to get back to the senior side.
It isn't so simple as you think. The B team did perform well in the T-20 series, but they failed in the ODI series. Also, a couple of good performances are not enough to state that they are superior to their experienced counterparts.

On top of all this, team politics will ensure that the experienced players will continue to play while only the best B team players like Hasaranga might be given chances in the future.

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October 13, 2019, 08:05:14 AM
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It isn't so simple as you think. The B team did perform well in the T-20 series, but they failed in the ODI series. Also, a couple of good performances are not enough to state that they are superior to their experienced counterparts.

On top of all this, team politics will ensure that the experienced players will continue to play while only the best B team players like Hasaranga might be given chances in the future.

Their performance was not that bad in the ODI series either. The first ODI was washed out. They lost the second ODI by a big margin. But the 3rd match was really close and they had a fair chance to win that one.

OK.. let's leave aside the ODI series. Their T20 series win was nothing short of phenomenal. Consider this - they went to Pakistan with a second string team. Pakistan had the home advantage. Pakistan is the no.1 ranking side as far as T20 format is considered (as per the official ICC rankings). Pakistan had won 29 out of their last 33 T20 matches. And still Sri Lanka won the series 3-0. It was plain unbelievable.

Now coming to the team politics, the management may no longer support the senior players, as they went against their wishes and boycotted the Pakistan tour. Anyway... I am not an expert in this subject. Let's see what happens. 

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October 13, 2019, 10:09:56 AM
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It isn't so simple as you think. The B team did perform well in the T-20 series, but they failed in the ODI series. Also, a couple of good performances are not enough to state that they are superior to their experienced counterparts.

On top of all this, team politics will ensure that the experienced players will continue to play while only the best B team players like Hasaranga might be given chances in the future.

Their performance was not that bad in the ODI series either. The first ODI was washed out. They lost the second ODI by a big margin. But the 3rd match was really close and they had a fair chance to win that one.

OK.. let's leave aside the ODI series. Their T20 series win was nothing short of phenomenal. Consider this - they went to Pakistan with a second string team. Pakistan had the home advantage. Pakistan is the no.1 ranking side as far as T20 format is considered (as per the official ICC rankings). Pakistan had won 29 out of their last 33 T20 matches. And still Sri Lanka won the series 3-0. It was plain unbelievable.

Now coming to the team politics, the management may no longer support the senior players, as they went against their wishes and boycotted the Pakistan tour. Anyway... I am not an expert in this subject. Let's see what happens. 

The new srilankan players were given a chance and they really performed well. It does not matter much how many of them will play in the next Srilanka ODI / T20 as the experienced players are still experienced but we can see the future of srilankan cricket team is bright as they have new emerging players and they have many more years to play.

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October 13, 2019, 10:31:03 AM
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The new srilankan players were given a chance and they really performed well. It does not matter much how many of them will play in the next Srilanka ODI / T20 as the experienced players are still experienced but we can see the future of srilankan cricket team is bright as they have new emerging players and they have many more years to play.

The "experienced players" were given lot of chances. And what did they achieved recently? According to the ICC rankings, Sri Lanka is ranked 6th in tests, 8th in ODIs and 7th in T20Is (they were ranked 9th, but after the series win against Pakistan they gained two ranks). And their ODI ranking would have been much worse, if Lasith Malinga was not playing in the series against New Zealand.

This is what the experienced guys achieved all these years:

1. They failed to advance to the semi finals during the 2019 Cricket World Cup. Finished with just 3 wins from 9 matches.
2. Failed to qualify directly to the 2020 T20 world cup, as they failed to secure a slot among the top-8 ranked teams.
3. Suffered an innings defeat to NZ at home this year.

I believe that it is time to say goodbye to most of these "experienced players".

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This is what the experienced guys achieved all these years:

1. They failed to advance to the semi finals during the 2019 Cricket World Cup. Finished with just 3 wins from 9 matches.
2. Failed to qualify directly to the 2020 T20 world cup, as they failed to secure a slot among the top-8 ranked teams.
3. Suffered an innings defeat to NZ at home this year.

I believe that it is time to say goodbye to most of these "experienced players".
You are right, but it is never that simple to replace such players unless their board decides to take big decisions in favor of their country instead of focusing on politics and other stuff.

Based on what I know, the Sri Lankan board has made a lot of wrong decisions in recent times and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. If this new batch of Sri Lankan players(Hasaranga etc) perform in IPL etc(If selected), they have a better chance at replacing the experienced players.

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Deep down you know the truth :-P

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You are right, but it is never that simple to replace such players unless their board decides to take big decisions in favor of their country instead of focusing on politics and other stuff.

Based on what I know, the Sri Lankan board has made a lot of wrong decisions in recent times and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. If this new batch of Sri Lankan players(Hasaranga etc) perform in IPL etc(If selected), they have a better chance at replacing the experienced players.
This series may turn out to be a very positive one for Sri Lanka to restructure the main team. They saw some outstanding performance from some of the players in this series and considering some of them for the main team will worth a shot

It's good that they have now more options and now it's up to them how and who to pick. If I was in their foot then I would really had a very hard time.

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Based on what I know, the Sri Lankan board has made a lot of wrong decisions in recent times and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. If this new batch of Sri Lankan players(Hasaranga etc) perform in IPL etc(If selected), they have a better chance at replacing the experienced players.

Just remembered about something related to IPL, after reading your post. The BCCI is planning to expand the number of teams from 8 to 10, although I am not sure whether they will implement this during the next season (2020). Some of the names that I have heard related to this expansion is that of Gautam Adani (Ahmedabad), Sanjeev Goenka (Pune) and Ratan Tata (Jamshedpur). The Kochi Tuskers also want to return to the IPL, but they don't have any backers within the BCCI.

In case they expand the IPL, then there will be 20 extra slots for the foreign players in the teams and 8 in the playing XI. On top of that the BCCI can expect anywhere from $700 million to $1 billion in franchise fee. I hope some of the talented Sri Lankan players will find place in the new teams.

And I don't understand the need to limit the number of teams to 8. In England they have 18 first-class teams. In India itself, a total of 37 teams are playing the Ranji trophy. Why can't we have one team each for every Ranji trophy side? We can divide them in to 3 divisions of 12 each, or 4 divisions of 9 each.


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How many and which teams are participating in this Pentangular T20I Series ?  Is this only being shown online and can we see all the matches on this youtube channel or just this one ? I could not find any sports channel which is broadcasting it live.
There are five teams in this series, Oman, Ireland, Nepal, Netherlands and Hong Kong and if you are really interested to watch the match live, the Oman cricket board is streaming the match live in youtube.
This is the Youtube channel of Oman cricket board if you want to watch this series live.
 

Finally this 2019–20 Oman Pentangular Series comes to an end. Although this was not so popular series  but still I watched the few matches through the above YouTube channel. Oman was the host and they were the winners finally. Also the strange thing was that there were no knockout matches and the winner was selected on the basis of who topped the table.
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~snip~

Finally this 2019–20 Oman Pentangular Series comes to an end. Although this was not so popular series  but still I watched the few matches through the above YouTube channel. Oman was the host and they were the winners finally. Also the strange thing was that there were no knockout matches and the winner was selected on the basis of who topped the table.
Finally good to see that they have some international audience. I wonder what do you do in real life? I mean your day job which allow you that much time watch them :-P

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Pakistan had won 29 out of their last 33 T20 matches. And still Sri Lanka won the series 3-0. It was plain unbelievable.
The reason i regard this series win my Srilanka is outstanding is simply because they were so dominant in T20 and if the statistics are true it means that Pakistan only lost one T20 in their past 30 matches and hence no one thought we will see an upset like this, loosing one match is not a big deal but getting white washed and that too all the defeats were by big margin shows how the new kids from Srilanka performed.

I believe that it is time to say goodbye to most of these "experienced players".
It was a lucky break for the new generation of players to play for the national side when the experienced players rejected to play the series in Pakistan.
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How many and which teams are participating in this Pentangular T20I Series ?  Is this only being shown online and can we see all the matches on this youtube channel or just this one ? I could not find any sports channel which is broadcasting it live.
There are five teams in this series, Oman, Ireland, Nepal, Netherlands and Hong Kong and if you are really interested to watch the match live, the Oman cricket board is streaming the match live in youtube.
This is the Youtube channel of Oman cricket board if you want to watch this series live.
 

Finally this 2019–20 Oman Pentangular Series comes to an end. Although this was not so popular series  but still I watched the few matches through the above YouTube channel. Oman was the host and they were the winners finally. Also the strange thing was that there were no knockout matches and the winner was selected on the basis of who topped the table.

The Oman Pentangular Series was essentially a warm-up or preparatory tournament for those teams participating in the qualifying tournament for the 2020 T20 World Cup. So it doesn't surprises me that there were no knock-out matches.

A total of 14 teams are participating in the 2019 ICC T20 World Cup Qualifier. The venue is United Arab Emirates as usual, as none of the other countries have the capability to host such a big tournament. And I guess most of the matches will be streamed live by the ICC.

The qualifying tournament starts on 18th October (next Friday).
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~snip~

Finally this 2019–20 Oman Pentangular Series comes to an end. Although this was not so popular series  but still I watched the few matches through the above YouTube channel. Oman was the host and they were the winners finally. Also the strange thing was that there were no knockout matches and the winner was selected on the basis of who topped the table.
Finally good to see that they have some international audience. I wonder what do you do in real life? I mean your day job which allow you that much time watch them :-P

Not free ofcourse but I try to get the time because of my love with the sports.

The Oman Pentangular Series was essentially a warm-up or preparatory tournament for those teams participating in the qualifying tournament for the 2020 T20 World Cup. So it doesn't surprises me that there were no knock-out matches.

A total of 14 teams are participating in the 2019 ICC T20 World Cup Qualifier. The venue is United Arab Emirates as usual, as none of the other countries have the capability to host such a big tournament. And I guess most of the matches will be streamed live by the ICC.

The qualifying tournament starts on 18th October (next Friday).

That means I have another entertaining week coming up. 
What do you mean by streamed live by ICC. Do you know any ICC streaming link ?
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That means I have another entertaining week coming up. 
What do you mean by streamed live by ICC. Do you know any ICC streaming link ?

Nowadays most of the T20I matches are being streamed by the respective cricket boards in YouTube. For example, all the matches of the Oman Pentangular Series were streamed live by the Oman Cricket Board through YouTube. For the qualifying tournament, they will be streaming live from the UAE cricket board account in YouTube, or using the ICC official YouTube handle.
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BTW, there is some big news coming from India. Sourav Ganguly is set to become the next BCCI president as the two opposing factions (those led by N Srinivasan and Anurag Thakur) reached on a compromise. This is actually bad news for the cricket fans, as it means that N Srinivasan will be back with some decision making power. His last term was a disaster not only for the Indian cricket, but also for the global spread of the game.

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October 14, 2019, 05:19:27 AM
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Nowadays most of the T20I matches are being streamed by the respective cricket boards in YouTube. For example, all the matches of the Oman Pentangular Series were streamed live by the Oman Cricket Board through YouTube. For the qualifying tournament, they will be streaming live from the UAE cricket board account in YouTube, or using the ICC official YouTube handle.
The Arab cricket board has the money to broadcast the matches if there are no satellite buyers for their tournament and they have their own television channels to broadcast these matches but that cannot be said about all the cricket boards around the world, if the broadcasting rights are not owned by any television channels then there will be no telecast of the match nor any recordings.
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And I don't understand the need to limit the number of teams to 8. In England they have 18 first-class teams. In India itself, a total of 37 teams are playing the Ranji trophy. Why can't we have one team each for every Ranji trophy side? We can divide them in to 3 divisions of 12 each, or 4 divisions of 9 each.
IPL is in a completely different league when compared to the other tournaments that you mentioned since the salaries paid to the players in each team are very high since the team owners are focusing on a specific group of individuals.

Also, the IPL schedule has been designed based on a small group of teams. They tried adding more teams, but that clearly did not work out in their favor(Team owners letting go of their teams etc). The current number of teams in the IPL is optimal in my opinion.

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And I don't understand the need to limit the number of teams to 8. In England they have 18 first-class teams. In India itself, a total of 37 teams are playing the Ranji trophy. Why can't we have one team each for every Ranji trophy side? We can divide them in to 3 divisions of 12 each, or 4 divisions of 9 each.
IPL is in a completely different league when compared to the other tournaments that you mentioned since the salaries paid to the players in each team are very high since the team owners are focusing on a specific group of individuals.

Also, the IPL schedule has been designed based on a small group of teams. They tried adding more teams, but that clearly did not work out in their favor(Team owners letting go of their teams etc). The current number of teams in the IPL is optimal in my opinion.

Well.. you definitely have a point there. But I want something in between the IPL and the numerous state-level T20 leagues (such as the Karnataka Premier League, Mumbai T20 League, Tamil Nadu Premier League, Odisha Premier League, Telangana T20 Premier League and Saurashtra Premier League). Right now there is a huge gap between the quality of these two levels of cricket.

What I am suggesting is a second division cricket league, for those cities which are not participating in the IPL. For example, we can have teams from cities such as Kochi, Ahmedabad, Pune, Kanpur, Lucknow.etc. This will increase the fan following of cricket in the second tier cities. I would like to have 10 teams in IPL and another 10 in the second division.

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