How some hosting platforms are dumping on your investment.

[bellicose]

Masternode investors are here to achieve one goal – to make a return on an investment. Whether you give focus to short term or long term gains, one consistent always remains across all investors. You want to make money!

Investing in cryptocurrency can have great risk but also great reward, and what drives us all is the euphoria of researching and investing in an encouraging project/coin before others and maximising short or long term returns. The 2018 crypto bear market has hit the vast majority of investors hard and it has become ever more difficult for an investor to return a profit, or a project to offer a smooth launch of their coin.

Investing in masternodes through shared platforms has grown in popularity during 2018 with the number of platforms continuing to grow during 2019. All shared platform have responsibility to their investors and to the projects/coins listed to it. Without trust from the community, a platform ceases to exist.

For platforms that hold a great amount of influence in the space, it is vital to operate ethically to build and gain this trust from current and future investors. For the top shared platforms, this is the number one consideration to provide real value to projects listed to our services and the wider investment community. Sustainable growth of masternode projects is the only way that investors can gain a return on their investment, and is the only way shared services can continue to grow in the future – without projects choosing to operate masternode technologies, shared platforms do not remain relevant in the cryptospace. Therefore in collaboration with investment communities, shared services have to provide infrastructure to enable growth of projects and the masternode space in general.

As an investor, you will be aware of services like Midas, trttNodes and Gentartium. Collectively, they are working towards growth of the masternode space, and to offer a strong infrastructure providing support to assist in the appreciation of communities’ investments. Unfortunately, these ambitions are not shared across all popular platforms. For the future development and growth of the masternode space, and in order to give protections to the investment community, it is vital this is reported to educate the masternode investment community.

CryptoHashTank. Here to help investo-.....
In April 2018, CryptoHashTank (CHT) launched their shared investments platform, and offer a mix of instant and ‘auto’ nodes on their platform. Specialising in offering a coin extremely early after launch, they offer investors the opportunity to invest early in a coin on a shared basis when the rewards are at their highest. CHT do very well at listing a high number of coins – whether an agreement is made with the project, or not - and this draws increased investors to their platform.

When they can make an agreement with a project, they achieve this by offering listing terms to a project that does not appear to have any cost. CHT take collateral of a node, and reimburse this collateral after a short period (often 1-3 days if rewards are high enough) thus providing no lowering of the projects premine through a listing with CHT, yet allowing CHT to continuing offering an instant node via their platform utilising the rewards earned. When an agreement cannot be made with a project, CHT list the coin anyway without the permission of the project as ‘Auto’ without an Instant Share.

It is apparent that CHT practices behind the scenes are secretive, unethical, and highly damaging to a projects longevity, the coins chances of success and ultimately, their investment communities’ portfolio.

Listing a project in presale to CHT would help, wouldn't it?
During February 2019, Klimatas listed through the Midas Incubator Programme. They successfully completed their own presale and KTS launched to Midex.

One week before KTS listed to the Midas Incubator programme, they also gained a listing with CHT, providing the CHT team with collateral for a node on the understanding this would be reimbursed a few days later, thus appearing to have no cost to Klimatas. CHT opened their Instant node, and started to receive investments of KTS from their community.

Investment platforms who list a project very early after launch during presale (if one is being offered by the project) - such as how CHT usually operate - have the ability to accumulate a high number of coins not dispersed to investors shares due to the coin being in high reward phase. With no outlet to sustainably and gradually sell these until it lands on exchange, the coins are held and continue to return coins themselves through compounding interest. Should this be the case, it is vital that utmost responsibility is provided by the shared investment service for the good of the project, the coins long term prospects, and their investment community who have chosen to use that service.

Between 25th January, and the launch to Midex on 22nd February, through rewards not dispersed to their investment community and service fees that CHT charge in the coin, CHT accumulated over 4,000 KTS that was deemed their own funds. At the price of KTS presale, this has value of 4BTC (approximately US$15,000). Rather than handle the sale of these coins sustainably and ethically, CHT choose to dump the high number of coins they hold as a coin lands on exchange. When a coin launches to exchange, liquidity and support is at its lowest, and therefore the vulnerability of the coin’s price at its greatest.

The practices of CHT came to light after @Mike [CHT Dev] posted directly to an open Discord channel that his deposit of KTS had not arrived to Midex shortly after the launch to exchange.



At the exact time of the deposit arriving to Midex, KTS had rebounded and was offering early resistance at 0.00040000BTC/KTS. Following the arrival of KTS to their trading account, they systematically proceeded in continually dumping KTS without consideration of the price of the coin, nor the responsibility they hold to investors. During the first three hours of trading, the account registered to CHT dumped over 2,100 KTS providing the greatest sell pressure on exchange to push the price to all-time-low of 0.00001350BTC/KTS. Within 7 days, they dumped over 4,200 KTS to continually keep the price of KTS suppressed.

At the same time, Mike [CHT Dev] shows apparent concern for coins price, posting throughout Discord promising support to a coin. This screenshot comes two weeks after the launch of KTS to Midex after crashing the price and continually providing sell pressure.



The launch of Midex, the exchange operated by Midas, has shed light on the operating practices of CHT. Just as they have treated KTS, they have also replicated this pattern with OTS - who also launched to Midex. Over a period of three days, CHT proceeded in dumping over 8,500 OTS on Midex. These figures are growing daily!

How does CryptoHashTank treat mature coins?
Unlike all major shared service platform in 2019, CHT have chosen not to create their own utility coin, but charge service fees to use their service at a percentage of rewards in the coin. Coins earned via service fees are sold directly on exchange, and continuing to use this method of fee charges suppresses a coins price and therefore an investor’s portfolio. All other major shared services actively encourage service fees be paid in their local coin/currency.

CHT also offer a variable service fee percentage allowing CHT to charge up to 90% of an investors rewards. Once a coin doesn’t provide enough reward output, CHT begin increasing fees to raise their earning potential, thus increasing the dumping pressure to further lower value of the coin.

Below, we provide examples from a number of coins being offered on CHT and the fee structures in place:





Based on the fees being charged, and the number of nodes in operation:

1.02 ABET nodes will be sent to exchange per month to sell.
1.6 MARC nodes will be sent to exchange per month to sell.
4 UPC nodes will be sent to exchange per month to sell.
5.38 PRX nodes will be sent to exchange per month to sell.
8.67 ISF nodes will be sent to exchange per month to sell.

This continual sell pressure will push the price of a coin down, and devalue the investments held on behalf of their own community.

Once the node is not producing high enough payouts, CHT introduce the variable commission structure. A masternode may not pay out enough rewards if; i) the coin offers a low ROI, or ii) the price of the coin has been depressed by continual selling. Below, we provide some examples of these coins:




The above coins all have large communities and are well known in the masternode space. Importantly, none of the above five projects gave CHT permission to list their coin, and all are listed as ‘auto’ meaning there is no instant share provided by the project.

Can CryptoHashTank be trusted?
The findings have been stark and clear: By sending your investments and increasing the influence of CHT provides a direct negative price suppression on the coins value, and devalues the investments for not only those who choose to invest on CHT, but the entire investment community.



Acting on greed, CHT use their influential position to ensure earnings are consistent for themselves without consideration of the projects, their community, and even those not using CHT. A listing to CHT in a coins infancy whilst rewards are at their highest can provides an immediate dumping after landing on exchange, as well as a strong negative effect for the long term progress of the project. Resulting from the immediate suppression on the price of coins like KTS and immediate devaluing of their communities’ investments, the continual selling pressure provided by CHT allows them to increase service fees to apply the final nail in the coffin for the coin allowing CHT to suck the final life out of the project. Once at this stage, the consequences are irreversible leaving their own investment community and others to face subsequent losses.

This article can be concluded and summarised with a couple of damning screenshots through communications with Mike [CHT Dev], and displays the willingness to not only destroy a project, but also their communities investments.

The example used is IFX. Through continual dumping through the listing of IFX, CHT has majorly contributed to the decline in price of IFX resulting in them taking a 'variable fee' of 50%+ of all rewards generated from his community.





CryptoHashTank's work here is done! Who will be their next victim?

Seeing this price action, the community would be in their right mind to assume a selling of premine and team exit. No! It is just CryptoHashTank at work!

Choosing the service and platform you send your investments to must be considered carefully. DYOR does not only apply to coins, but to the platforms you choose to send your coins to. Not doing so may have a strong influence not only in the success of your investments, but the success of the projects themselves!

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[Larsinist]

Ouch this does not sounds so good for new coins/projects, i am thinking of the continual sell pressure
lets see how this evolves

[busminer]

You already dumped

Nope
I just did

F$cking dumpers, hate them...

[Larsinist]

Its not good for a new coin/project as i wrote.

[BitPumpIt]

Hate manipulators!  Only Trittium and Midas

[rabotacoin]

Yes, indeed, this is not the platform on which we can confidently trade our investments.

[Larsinist]

Hate manipulators!  Only Trittium and Midas

Trittium&midas seems like a good platform, i will try that, thanks
it seems like the best thing for new coins, is not to list on cht, cause of the fees, and sell tactics

[fromkrec]

Hate manipulators!  Only Trittium and Midas

Trittium&midas seems like a good platform, i will try that, thanks
it seems like the best thing for new coins, is not to list on cht, cause of the fees, and sell tactics

that's right, their ways of working absolutely negatively affect the development of coins and projects in general.

[dolcevita99]

I hope that the manipulators will become smaller and will not so lower the coins that are worthy of the highest price. Interesting topic!

[Zianingbu]

Now I understand how much you need to think carefully and check all the information before making investments. Thank you for such a detailed and correctly stated text.

[coinbitcoin91]

It will be very interesting to observe the development of events and how the prices for new coins, which are just starting to be sold, will behave. Good article, thanks for writing so clearly.

[JackIT]

The author is an obvious Midas shill, reposting an article from Midas' blog.

These defamatory articles, speak volumes about the type of company Midas Investments is. A company that would stoop so low, as to fabricate lies about their competition? I'd be very careful. 


Regardless, these libelous statements will not go unchallenged.


The semi-literate author confirms that KTS price dropped from 100K to 13K sats BEFORE CHT was able to deposit any coins on the exchange.
Yet somehow manages to attribute that to the fault of CryptoHashTank? how?

Moving coins onto an exchange, does not equate to dumping coins... if CHT is as greedy as the Midas shill claims, then they are incentivized to try and get the most value for their coins, that they can. Dumping coins, has the exact opposite effect.. again, common sense.


Regarding Variable commission, what the Midas shill fails to mention is that the variable commission rate is based on commission earnings of $2.50 per month. That's right, those of you with at least a third grade education, can do the math to see $2.50/month equates to about 8 cents per day

If you think CHT is able to move a market with $0.08 per day, you're an idiot.


Attributing the price dump of IFX (Infinex) to CryptoHashTank?

[Trader_13]

There are always people who make money from it. Surely they have not provided for one hundred will follow this and can punish for frauds with money.

[chtdev]

Hello Community,


I would like to take this time to rebut the current article. But first I would like to simply say that the information is false and posted by a competitor.

Lets address the issue with KTS, CHT along with the knowledge of the KTS Dev sent 4k KTS to Midex Exchange as once listed the coin began to tank. We sent these coins to the MIDEX exchange in order to try and stabilize the price which I will prove in a second. The coins never arrived and the post I made in the MIDAS discord was to get the coins that were missing from my account. Fast forward 24hrs later the coins were credited and below you will see that only some were sold and were sold steadily while increasing the coins value as we set out to do.

#169253 to sell 200.00000 KTS at 0.00013000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:58:12
#169251 to sell 200.00000 KTS at 0.00012000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:57:52
#169250 to sell 200.00000 KTS at 0.00011000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:57:38
#169238 to sell 1,000.00000 KTS at 0.00011000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:55:22
#169235 to sell 195.45594 KTS at 0.00010076 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:54:50
#163635 to sell 100.00000 KTS at 0.00010688 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 11:04:00

As you can see above that is the opposite of dumping as the writer of this article stated.

Now lets address the accusation of CHT being responsible for the crash of IFX lol! Below is the announcement made by the IFX DEV on March 6th 2019 at 740pm EST


@everyone
Dear Infinex Supporters,

As you all know, the safety of your funds that you are planning to invest in the future InfiniDEX - the decentralized exchange powered by Infinex - is of my top priority.

With the recent hacking and regulatory issues, such as what has happened to Cryptopia, Maple Exchange, and EtherDelta, I have spent countless nights to think of what is best for InfiniDEX...  My limited resources, lack of experience, and next to none background in this matter does not help.

It is with heavy heart that I truly realized own limitations in the last three crunch days.

As such, I have decided to postpone InfiniDEX indefinitely.  This does not mean that InfiniDEX will cease to exist.

Here is a snapshot of our CB Balance as of March 10th, 2019 750pm EST

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IZkZz5CaAWlNr8yhRKQvKXPhEBy3f0mP

As you can see we still hold a balance and did not dump at all. So let me explain the context of the chat that you all only see a snippet of, the conversation that you see is between me and the DEV for TRTT which when looked at the way they posted it looks like we sold and that red candle is our doing but if look closely the dump happened almost 20hrs prior to me stating we sold the dying projects coins. That conversation clearly shows that it happened on March 7th 2019 at 254pm EST and IFX crashed only because of their post and not because of CHT.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S8tW9hJtpf4tBkZXYjaJ7ds7LWHCTqfF

So to put this into context, myself and the TRTT Dev dont see eye to eye and he has a hard on for use as we are competition. What he has done here is simply takes pieces of conversations and manipulated it to fit his attempt at FUD. CHT only sells rewards at current price or above never at the asking price.

Many Shared MN services charge fees from rewards I will not name them as this is not the point. But I will mention that TRTT does when their users have no TRTT to pay their hosting costs ask yourself what they do with that commission??

Last but not least our Variable commission like Jack stated above is to only retain $2.5 a month from rewards so ask yourself this can $2.5 worth of coins cause a coin to fail??? The answer absolutely not!!!


God Bless you all!

[argakiig]

You are talking about all platforms or just a few. We should consider this carefully

[Dr.Sponge]

This kind of dumb investment should be prohibited in here lol. Both side the developer and the users are willing to take profit from both.

[SwiggHeart]

That's why I never invest in a masternode coin ever again in my life! Everything, the exchange of the masternode coin, the dev, all of them are totally shits.

[7de9]

Hello Community,


Many Shared MN services charge fees from rewards I will not name them as this is not the point. But I will mention that TRTT does when their users have no TRTT to pay their hosting costs ask yourself what they do with that commission??

Trittium ALWAYS wants people to pay in Trittium. And always speaks about paying fees in trtt and try to educate to their investors to pay in Trittium, so it is not a way of life as it is for CHT.

Also, Trittium always tries to get agreements with new projects to pay first week or month in trittium and give free hosting to investors in the first weeks, as ROI is too high and to sink projects is not the Trittium aim.

https://discordapp.com/channels/433248987462762517/433250532900077581/547700669860151316

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456509725278863360/554565438789386250/unknown.png?width=606&height=473

You can check more examples like these ones at Trittium Discord.

[Larsinist]

CHT should start their own coin like trittium, and take payment from fees in their own currency, insted of dumping the fee on the market

[JackIT]

CHT should start their own coin like trittium, and take payment from fees in their own currency, insted of dumping the fee on the market

CHT coin is in the works...

All shared masternode providers take fees in the coin that they host. GTM, Midas, TRTT, everyone

Do you really think a 4% commission from rewards is going to move a market? get real.
This purported article is nothing more than a slanderous puff piece from a half witted employee of Midas, at the direction of Titrium

Some services do provide an option to pay fees using the shared service's native coin, why isn't it a requirement?

The largest shared masternode service, GTM, does not use their own coin for shared mn fees, even though they charge cold wallet hosting in their own native coin.


Open your eyes people, do some critical thinking.

[7de9]

CHT should start their own coin like trittium, and take payment from fees in their own currency, insted of dumping the fee on the market

CHT coin is in the works...

All shared masternode providers take fees in the coin that they host. GTM, Midas, TRTT, everyone

Do you really think a 4% commission from rewards is going to move a market? get real.
This purported article is nothing more than a slanderous puff piece from a half witted employee of Midas, at the direction of Titrium

Some services do provide an option to pay fees using the shared service's native coin, why isn't it a requirement?

The largest shared masternode service, GTM, does not use their own coin for shared mn fees, even though they charge cold wallet hosting in their own native coin.


Open your eyes people, do some critical thinking.

When you host 10 nodes at presale at high ROI, 4% is almost one node for free in one week.
Make your numbers, please.

[Gentarium]

CHT should start their own coin like trittium, and take payment from fees in their own currency, insted of dumping the fee on the market

CHT coin is in the works...

All shared masternode providers take fees in the coin that they host. GTM, Midas, TRTT, everyone

Do you really think a 4% commission from rewards is going to move a market? get real.
This purported article is nothing more than a slanderous puff piece from a half witted employee of Midas, at the direction of Titrium

Some services do provide an option to pay fees using the shared service's native coin, why isn't it a requirement?

The largest shared masternode service, GTM, does not use their own coin for shared mn fees, even though they charge cold wallet hosting in their own native coin.


Open your eyes people, do some critical thinking.

Have you seen our tariffs? Why are you so sure that we don't charge GTM? We will, billing system is in progress
Abd btw we don't sell rest coins from isntant MNs, but you sell. Several coin devs told me about it

[coinbitcoin91]

Everyone now wants to make money easily, but this does not happen, you need to work not only with your head but also with your hands. But here, too, there is one "but" how can you understand that you can be thrown into money ..

[dolcevita99]

This topic should be well thought out. You can blame anyone and it is not clear what. But if somehow my investments are in danger, can I get them back and refuse to participate in the project?

[Zianingbu]

This topic should be well thought out. You can blame anyone and it is not clear what. But if somehow my investments are in danger, can I get them back and refuse to participate in the project?

Most likely not, because you voluntarily transferred your funds and in no way can they be returned back. But if the team wants, then of course they can make a refund of your funds to your address from which the transfer was made.

[Trader_13]

Hello Community,


I would like to take this time to rebut the current article. But first I would like to simply say that the information is false and posted by a competitor.

Lets address the issue with KTS, CHT along with the knowledge of the KTS Dev sent 4k KTS to Midex Exchange as once listed the coin began to tank. We sent these coins to the MIDEX exchange in order to try and stabilize the price which I will prove in a second. The coins never arrived and the post I made in the MIDAS discord was to get the coins that were missing from my account. Fast forward 24hrs later the coins were credited and below you will see that only some were sold and were sold steadily while increasing the coins value as we set out to do.

#169253 to sell 200.00000 KTS at 0.00013000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:58:12
#169251 to sell 200.00000 KTS at 0.00012000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:57:52
#169250 to sell 200.00000 KTS at 0.00011000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:57:38
#169238 to sell 1,000.00000 KTS at 0.00011000 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:55:22
#169235 to sell 195.45594 KTS at 0.00010076 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 19:54:50
#163635 to sell 100.00000 KTS at 0.00010688 BTC/KTS 2019-02-25 11:04:00

As you can see above that is the opposite of dumping as the writer of this article stated.

Now lets address the accusation of CHT being responsible for the crash of IFX lol! Below is the announcement made by the IFX DEV on March 6th 2019 at 740pm EST


@everyone
Dear Infinex Supporters,

As you all know, the safety of your funds that you are planning to invest in the future InfiniDEX - the decentralized exchange powered by Infinex - is of my top priority.

With the recent hacking and regulatory issues, such as what has happened to Cryptopia, Maple Exchange, and EtherDelta, I have spent countless nights to think of what is best for InfiniDEX...  My limited resources, lack of experience, and next to none background in this matter does not help.

It is with heavy heart that I truly realized own limitations in the last three crunch days.

As such, I have decided to postpone InfiniDEX indefinitely.  This does not mean that InfiniDEX will cease to exist.

Here is a snapshot of our CB Balance as of March 10th, 2019 750pm EST

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IZkZz5CaAWlNr8yhRKQvKXPhEBy3f0mP

As you can see we still hold a balance and did not dump at all. So let me explain the context of the chat that you all only see a snippet of, the conversation that you see is between me and the DEV for TRTT which when looked at the way they posted it looks like we sold and that red candle is our doing but if look closely the dump happened almost 20hrs prior to me stating we sold the dying projects coins. That conversation clearly shows that it happened on March 7th 2019 at 254pm EST and IFX crashed only because of their post and not because of CHT.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S8tW9hJtpf4tBkZXYjaJ7ds7LWHCTqfF

So to put this into context, myself and the TRTT Dev dont see eye to eye and he has a hard on for use as we are competition. What he has done here is simply takes pieces of conversations and manipulated it to fit his attempt at FUD. CHT only sells rewards at current price or above never at the asking price.

Many Shared MN services charge fees from rewards I will not name them as this is not the point. But I will mention that TRTT does when their users have no TRTT to pay their hosting costs ask yourself what they do with that commission??

Last but not least our Variable commission like Jack stated above is to only retain $2.5 a month from rewards so ask yourself this can $2.5 worth of coins cause a coin to fail??? The answer absolutely not!!!


God Bless you all!

As I understand it, at the moment the withdrawal is limited. But many start to get nervous because of this, because God forbid it can happen as with the Exchange BitGrail.

[JackIT]

Have you seen our tariffs? Why are you so sure that we don't charge GTM?

So nice of you to jump on the BS bandwagon...

You're either lying here or in your discord server.. which is it?

You currently charge a 2% fee of rewards from the coin you host for shared service, correct? No GTM coin involved...

In the future you will charge that same 2% PLUS $4.99 in GTM equivalent.

[SwiggHeart]

 Can you explain how you had 4 nodes of KTS on first trading day? this is not corelating with your say that only 4% can't affect market

[JackIT]

Can you explain how you had 4 nodes of KTS on first trading day? this is not corelating with your say that only 4% can't affect market

Sure.

• January 24th - KTS genesis block
• January 25th - CHT first KTS masternode running
• February 22nd - KTS first day of trading

 
We had one of the very first masternodes on the chain, ROI was insanely high, about 1 to 2 days.

On the first day of trading there were fewer than 100 masternodes, and our platform had about half of them. If you include people that withdrew coins from CHT to host their own nodes, that percentage is even higher.

[RasenShuriken]

I will take my investments out of CHT... never though about it this way

[Levyathan]

Variable comission? really? up to 90%?

[JackIT]

Variable comission? really? up to 90%?

yes, really.

Variable commission is $0.08 per day

Percentage is based on the value of the masternode's daily earnings, and is equivalent to $0.08 per day

if you have a masternode that earns $0.10 per day, then maybe you should host it yourself, or remove your coins and stake.

Regardless, we start shutting down masternodes and returning coins after they drop below $0.50 in daily earnings (about 16% commission)

We encourage people to withdrawal their coins once hosting the masternode becomes unprofitable for us, and the commission is clearly posted. obviously

[JackIT]

Think about it, if we wanted to be scammy and trick people..
then the easiest way to do that would be to replace that glaringly highlighted 90% with $0.08 per day

No one would balk at a measly $0.08

Instead, we want to make it clear as can be, that this masternode is not profitable to host unless it's at an insane commission rate... and you should probably do something else with your coins because we will be shutting it down soon.

[Trader_13]

How do you close it? You need to better show and prove that you are right and nobody deceived anyone. But I think that everything will be the opposite.

[dolcevita99]

This topic should be well thought out. You can blame anyone and it is not clear what. But if somehow my investments are in danger, can I get them back and refuse to participate in the project?

Most likely not, because you voluntarily transferred your funds and in no way can they be returned back. But if the team wants, then of course they can make a refund of your funds to your address from which the transfer was made.

Now everything is clear to me, thanks for the answer. I hope that this problem will be solved soon and all that has been done will be solved incorrectly correctly.

[Zianingbu]

I will take my investments out of CHT... never though about it this way

Removing your investment, it turns out that you do not automatically trust the project, because the price of coins falls too low? Do I understand you correctly?

[coinbitcoin91]

After this, I begin to fear investing in any project, how can I be in order not to fall on the co-workers? Because I'm afraid to be completely without money.

[JackIT]

The most ironic thing about this thread....

is that fact that this thread originated on a Midas owned blog: https://mn.investments/your-choice-of-investment-platform/

and, yet Midas Investments was accused of the very thing they're accusing CHT of. makes you think

But instead of a TRTT Marketing Expert making the claims, it was the well respected coin dev of ESBC, and if you read towards the end of the thread, you'll see the TRTT sheeple defending Midas in vain.

 
A very good read, that should provide plenty of insight:

🔥🔥🔥 What do you think about MIDAS.INVESTMENT? new BIG SCAMM project 🔥🔥🔥

[chtdev]

Hello Community,

I want to ensure you understand what is happening! Midas and TRT are a team attempting to crush other services by spreading inaccurate FUD about them without doin the research first. They simply make up something and post and the reasoning for this is that we are a competitor. While they do this many user have come to us and shared some info about their services and how they work. Thing is they are not open about what they are doing on the backend. Below are some user comments about the services and also a link from this forum showing that they have scammed DEVS and users since the beginning! Keep in mind if you read my earlier posts all I wanted to do is defend CHT from the FUD that they were spreading if you read it you can see that I have successfully shown how we really work and work hand in hand with DEVS when the launch their project.


READ THIS CAREFULLY YOU WILL SEE HOW MIDAS SCAMMED THE ESBC DEV AND HOW TRTT DEV CAME IN AND BACKED THEM UP BACK IN OCT '18

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5054792.0

https://imgur.com/a/mlND1oE
This is simply a warning for all of you!!

CHT continues to distribute rewards to users accurately and professionally and work with DEVS to attempt to combat dumpers!

[JackIT]

The Truth Behind This Article and the Accusations

Time for a quick recap, using FACTS, something the original post in this thread lacks.


Midas and TRRT entered into a partnership a few weeks ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110330.msg50019955#msg50019955





TRTT authored the article on Midas's blog: https://mn.investments/your-choice-of-investment-platform/



Midas was accused by a respected coin dev (ESBC) of the same thing they're claiming CHT did:
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The KTS coin dev is aware of the article and dismissed the claims levied against CHT:




CHT remains a Trusted Shared Masternode Server for KTS:





Midas CEO admitted the claims on his blog are false, but refused to remove them:





TRTT uses a variable commission rate more than double CHT's $0.08!, but chooses to hide the percentage:




Midas and TRTT are conspiring to discredit CHT because we're a threat to their business models

[SwiggHeart]

Just don't invest on masternode platform then you will be okay lol.
much shills everywhere. team, supporters, audiences are absolutely fake.
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[Dr.Sponge]

How do you not know that this kind of investment is actually a ponzi scheme, better avoid this one.

[anodyne]

I can say that this is not the kind of platform on which we can trust our investments and trade it here.

[Purvik]

So many issues and doubt thoughts about the platform is keep on going. This is in need of a quick solution from the team.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

I am so much afraid to just tried and tried any platforms here in the community most especially if it seems like so suspicious. Something like this that have so many negative feedbacks from the crowd.

[coinbitcoin91]

So many issues and doubt thoughts about the platform is keep on going. This is in need of a quick solution from the team.

Almost every day all the news and evidence is updated here. But I still have doubts. I will follow developments further.

[Trader_13]

I can say that this is not the kind of platform on which we can trust our investments and trade it here.

I want to clarify with you in your opinion, are you 100% sure that you shouldn’t work at all on this platform and contact them with investments?

[Zianingbu]

I am now afraid to mess with similar projects. I do not want to lose their investments. The market is not stable now and so has lost most of its savings.

[dolcevita99]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

[Zianingbu]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

[dolcevita99]

I can not fully understand this topic. A lot of not clear information about guilt. But if they continue to send their tokens, then why do they need it?

[coinbitcoin91]

CHT should start their own coin like trittium, and take payment from fees in their own currency, insted of dumping the fee on the market

CHT coin is in the works...

All shared masternode providers take fees in the coin that they host. GTM, Midas, TRTT, everyone

Do you really think a 4% commission from rewards is going to move a market? get real.
This purported article is nothing more than a slanderous puff piece from a half witted employee of Midas, at the direction of Titrium

Some services do provide an option to pay fees using the shared service's native coin, why isn't it a requirement?

The largest shared masternode service, GTM, does not use their own coin for shared mn fees, even though they charge cold wallet hosting in their own native coin.


Open your eyes people, do some critical thinking.

If at the moment the coin is in development, when do you plan to release it? To show which side is true?

[Levyathan]

-find a quick way to earn on  the internet
-found bitcointalk and its shit masternode coin
-invest
-got a lot of profit
-got dumped when u tryin to sell ur profit

[rabotacoin]

-find a quick way to earn on  the internet
-found bitcointalk and its shit masternode coin
-invest
-got a lot of profit
-got dumped when u tryin to sell ur profit

Yes, unfortunately it happens very often. Not all coins can be trusted and there is no need to immediately buy anything, you need at least to follow the development of this coin and see if it rises in price.

[damniatx_]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

[Dua]

I can say that this is not the kind of platform on which we can trust our investments and trade it here.

Yes, it is already clear. In fact, it is a pity that now there are so many scams in the crypto-world. It is necessary to choose a trading platform very carefully.

[fromkrec]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

[damniatx_]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

Of course, these funds are not reimbursed, I have never seen a refund of any funds from fraudsters. With this, too, you are unlikely to return something.

[Dua]

-find a quick way to earn on  the internet
-found bitcointalk and its shit masternode coin
-invest
-got a lot of profit
-got dumped when u tryin to sell ur profit

Yes, unfortunately it happens very often. Not all coins can be trusted and there is no need to immediately buy anything, you need at least to follow the development of this coin and see if it rises in price.

but it will have to spend a lot of time. I think it is very difficult to do if you want to invest right now, so you need to be careful in this matter.

[coinbitcoin91]

-find a quick way to earn on  the internet
-found bitcointalk and its shit masternode coin
-invest
-got a lot of profit
-got dumped when u tryin to sell ur profit

Yes, I agree, it happens and happens quite often in our time. You just need to learn how to avoid such cases when you lose your investment.

[Zianingbu]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

[dolcevita99]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

But if the guys will be able to prove that they are really fraudsters who stole my money, maybe you can sue them?

[Trader_13]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

I regret that you invested your money here. I hope that somehow you will be able to return to be honest. The next time you need to be careful with investments.

[Trader_13]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

But if the guys will be able to prove that they are really fraudsters who stole my money, maybe you can sue them?

For the court there is little evidence. Because you did not sign any documents and it was personally your initiative to invest money in the project. Therefore, it seems to me that nothing can be proved.

[coinbitcoin91]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

[Zianingbu]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

[dolcevita99]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

But if the guys will be able to prove that they are really fraudsters who stole my money, maybe you can sue them?

For the court there is little evidence. Because you did not sign any documents and it was personally your initiative to invest money in the project. Therefore, it seems to me that nothing can be proved.

Thanks, but time will tell. As soon as there will be new messages that the project deceived us, we need to revise everything.

[fromkrec]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

But if the guys will be able to prove that they are really fraudsters who stole my money, maybe you can sue them?

For the court there is little evidence. Because you did not sign any documents and it was personally your initiative to invest money in the project. Therefore, it seems to me that nothing can be proved.

Thanks, but time will tell. As soon as there will be new messages that the project deceived us, we need to revise everything.

why are you waiting for more new messages about deception from the developers, I think we have already seen enough evidence.

[Dua]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

I also think that evidence is already enough. But I would like to receive comments from the author. What does he think to do next?

[rabotacoin]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

I also think that evidence is already enough. But I would like to receive comments from the author. What does he think to do next?

Most likely there will be no comments from the author, because he only told us about the machinations of some platforms, so that we would be in the know.

[damniatx_]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

I see that the evidences are all provided but this needs to be close properly with a full of right and fresh evidences to not have any uncleared issues.

[lobster88]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

[BorisWCR]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

That is right. And for that, it is very unfortunate reality here in the crypto. That is why, this project needs to be avoided by the people for not them become one of the victims too.

[anodyne]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

[rabotacoin]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

[fromkrec]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

That is right. And for that, it is very unfortunate reality here in the crypto. That is why, this project needs to be avoided by the people for not them become one of the victims too.

Only here, in this topic, there are very few people who know about this project. This information should be conveyed to users directly in the subject of this project.

[coinbitcoin91]

Unfortunately, this is true and whatever it is, we will have to put up with it. I am waiting for the continuation of this topic and there are a lot of unsolved questions left.

[Trader_13]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

[Dua]

Unfortunately, this is true and whatever it is, we will have to put up with it. I am waiting for the continuation of this topic and there are a lot of unsolved questions left.

I do not know what questions are still not solved here? In my opinion, this topic is already clear that this is another project-deception.

[damniatx_]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

[Mikwik]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

Scammers are all around us. And for that, we need to take double cautious in everything we will involve ourselves. Just like this one. Such actions already been taken as a first step for this to inform the crowd is a very helpful.

[Zianingbu]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

I also think that evidence is already enough. But I would like to receive comments from the author. What does he think to do next?

It is not even clear what the next steps from the author of this topic will be, but the main thing is that he proves guilt and theft of investments.

[dolcevita99]

I want to clarify if I need a refund that I invested. Will I be able to return them? How do I get my investment back?

To be honest, I doubt that you will be able to return something to yourself. Because very often the user’s losses are never reimbursed.

But if the guys will be able to prove that they are really fraudsters who stole my money, maybe you can sue them?

For the court there is little evidence. Because you did not sign any documents and it was personally your initiative to invest money in the project. Therefore, it seems to me that nothing can be proved.

Thanks, but time will tell. As soon as there will be new messages that the project deceived us, we need to revise everything.

why are you waiting for more new messages about deception from the developers, I think we have already seen enough evidence.

My opinion is that there is not enough news. And could update the evidence. I think that during this time that has passed, one could find more information and publish it here.

[coinbitcoin91]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

[dolcevita99]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

I am sure that they will understand. Not only that, it is stated to a large audience and a lot of information about their actions. All names are listed and who after this wants to deal with them?

[Zianingbu]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

I agree with you, of course you need to answer for your actions. Especially if it was a hoax with investments, fundraising by fraud, should be punished.

[damniatx_]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

I am sure that they will understand. Not only that, it is stated to a large audience and a lot of information about their actions. All names are listed and who after this wants to deal with them?

I just think that it’s necessary to spread this information as much as possible so that as many people as possible know about this project.

[Dua]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

I agree with you, of course you need to answer for your actions. Especially if it was a hoax with investments, fundraising by fraud, should be punished.

only it is not clear how they can be punished and who will punish them? I think that no one will be able to punish these scammers.

[lobster88]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

I also think that evidence is already enough. But I would like to receive comments from the author. What does he think to do next?

It is not even clear what the next steps from the author of this topic will be, but the main thing is that he proves guilt and theft of investments.

This is still needs a case closed to be more cleared to other people. And for that, I am hoping that more people will come to reach this and be more aware about this fraud, as well as to become a lesson and guide to be more careful to scammers.

[anodyne]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

I agree with you, of course you need to answer for your actions. Especially if it was a hoax with investments, fundraising by fraud, should be punished.

only it is not clear how they can be punished and who will punish them? I think that no one will be able to punish these scammers.

In this kind of issues, we all know how it is hard to take actions to the culprits of the scam but we still keep on finding different ways for the proper punishments to those scammers. Moreover, let's see what will this case's next step towards those scammers for making this kind of thing here in the crypto community.

[BorisWCR]

Admin, when will the continuation of evidence about the fraud of this team? If you started to show it publicly, then you need fresh evidence.

I also think that evidence is already enough. But I would like to receive comments from the author. What does he think to do next?

It is not even clear what the next steps from the author of this topic will be, but the main thing is that he proves guilt and theft of investments.

Even that this is not yet clear in all, the most important thing is that there is someone that make the first step that have a good reason, and for us to be aware about this.

[Zianingbu]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

I agree with you, of course you need to answer for your actions. Especially if it was a hoax with investments, fundraising by fraud, should be punished.

only it is not clear how they can be punished and who will punish them? I think that no one will be able to punish these scammers.

It can punish the court, but it is too long a process that can last for years. And naturally, no one wants to mess with it, because it does not want to spend money and time.

[dolcevita99]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

I am sure that they will understand. Not only that, it is stated to a large audience and a lot of information about their actions. All names are listed and who after this wants to deal with them?

I just think that it’s necessary to spread this information as much as possible so that as many people as possible know about this project.

How do you imagine that? How can I distribute this information and where can I place it? Because I for example do not know.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

Scammers are all around us. And for that, we need to take double cautious in everything we will involve ourselves. Just like this one. Such actions already been taken as a first step for this to inform the crowd is a very helpful.

That is right. And this matter is one thing that we should keep aware to our surroundings. I am much glad to have the someone tells the community to this fraud. More actions are still ongoing I guess to clear things here.

[fromkrec]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

Scammers are all around us. And for that, we need to take double cautious in everything we will involve ourselves. Just like this one. Such actions already been taken as a first step for this to inform the crowd is a very helpful.

That is right. And this matter is one thing that we should keep aware to our surroundings. I am much glad to have the someone tells the community to this fraud. More actions are still ongoing I guess to clear things here.

Yes, I think it would be nice if as many of these topics were created as possible, in which all users can find out about other scammers.

[Dua]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

I agree with you, of course you need to answer for your actions. Especially if it was a hoax with investments, fundraising by fraud, should be punished.

only it is not clear how they can be punished and who will punish them? I think that no one will be able to punish these scammers.

It can punish the court, but it is too long a process that can last for years. And naturally, no one wants to mess with it, because it does not want to spend money and time.

To be honest, I have never heard of the fact that in a real court issues relating to cryptocurrency activities are resolved.

[coinbitcoin91]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

I am sure that they will understand. Not only that, it is stated to a large audience and a lot of information about their actions. All names are listed and who after this wants to deal with them?

I hope that the names that indicate their real names, otherwise it is a failure. There are simply no other options, and I don’t know what to do.

[dolcevita99]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

I am sure that they will understand. Not only that, it is stated to a large audience and a lot of information about their actions. All names are listed and who after this wants to deal with them?

I hope that the names that indicate their real names, otherwise it is a failure. There are simply no other options, and I don’t know what to do.

Today, I once again reread all the information about this dispute, and I want to say that the author of this topic has a chance that he will prove who stole what and when.

[Trader_13]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

[damniatx_]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

[coinbitcoin91]

There is another question about who can tell when and how you learned that you were deceived by investments? When exactly did this happen? I think that much earlier than this topic was written.

[rabotacoin]

Will update more evidence about the project? Is there anything else that can prove that they were doing the machinations?

I think there is enough information here to understand that these guys are not serious people, I think users must know about it.

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

Such actions take a lot of time and effort, and also money. Because if you do it seriously then you will need a lawyer.

Of course, especially if you have lost some of your savings, you will have to spend even more on your lawyer.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and takes into account what they can spend much more than they put into the project. But it remains their conscience. I hope that they will understand what they have done.

I am sure that they will understand. Not only that, it is stated to a large audience and a lot of information about their actions. All names are listed and who after this wants to deal with them?

I hope that the names that indicate their real names, otherwise it is a failure. There are simply no other options, and I don’t know what to do.

Today, I once again reread all the information about this dispute, and I want to say that the author of this topic has a chance that he will prove who stole what and when.

perhaps this is true, but it will only be a warning to other users. Lost funds already can not be returned and this is a fact.

[Trader_13]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

No, at least I haven’t seen anything like this, I haven’t even seen a close one like that. So I think that this idea has not yet been implemented by anyone at the moment.

[Dua]

There is another question about who can tell when and how you learned that you were deceived by investments? When exactly did this happen? I think that much earlier than this topic was written.

Of course, much earlier, so we can make sure that we and the author of this topic will not see any positive outcome. Just it must be understood.

[damniatx_]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

No, at least I haven’t seen anything like this, I haven’t even seen a close one like that. So I think that this idea has not yet been implemented by anyone at the moment.

but if you think about it, it would be a very popular platform on which any user could find out the legitimacy of a project.

[Mikwik]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

That would be a great platform if possible to have within here in the community. And also, I am sure more fraud projects will be afraid to show of here in the community.

[Purvik]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

No, at least I haven’t seen anything like this, I haven’t even seen a close one like that. So I think that this idea has not yet been implemented by anyone at the moment.

By that, that is much more a good thing to have conducted this kind of idea in the community. Well, this needs a long time planning and needs more minds to come up with. Furthermore, this is a good thing to implement indeed.

[lobster88]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

No, at least I haven’t seen anything like this, I haven’t even seen a close one like that. So I think that this idea has not yet been implemented by anyone at the moment.

By that, that is much more a good thing to have conducted this kind of idea in the community. Well, this needs a long time planning and needs more minds to come up with. Furthermore, this is a good thing to implement indeed.

If this kind of idea will be push through here in the crypto community, then that would be a great help to avoid fraudulent crypto projects. That would help us crypto users to have determine the safe projects for investments and scammers will be afraid to have actions lile this.

[anodyne]

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

Well I think that there is still no such kind of idea or concepts of a crypto project already been launched. This is good to be lookin forward mos especially jn this kind of issue that these team have been deceiving us here.
Moreover, I am curious about the closing evidences to be posted here regarding this matter.

[Levyathan]

Kinda feel weird to see all of them.

[SwiggHeart]

There are so many ways to invest in the real world so y u choose to invest to a ponzi scheme.

[coinbitcoin91]

There is another question about who can tell when and how you learned that you were deceived by investments? When exactly did this happen? I think that much earlier than this topic was written.

Of course, much earlier, so we can make sure that we and the author of this topic will not see any positive outcome. Just it must be understood.

Strange is all. I've been waiting for new evidence for a week. It seems that things are serious and have not yet been updated.

[Trader_13]

This thread have some kind of serious issue. But I do think that the people should really be aware of this, and also to other projects that do the same like this deceiving the people. This act is very unethical and should take actions immediately as to make other people aware of something like this.

I agree with you, because today there are a lot of scammers who are trying to deceive people. And the most annoying thing is that these deceived people can no longer return their investments.

Yes, very sorry for such people. Because when you want to invest in a project, you choose it according to special criteria, such as advertising and team development activities. But even such data can be deceptive.

it would be nice if there was any single base of projects that were tested for fraud and are safe for investment.

Very good suggestion, maybe you should try to tell the idea of such a base and someone will agree to make it. This is a good idea for the platform of such projects.

I just expressed my idea, but I do not know who could implement it. Perhaps such a platform already exists?

No, at least I haven’t seen anything like this, I haven’t even seen a close one like that. So I think that this idea has not yet been implemented by anyone at the moment.

By that, that is much more a good thing to have conducted this kind of idea in the community. Well, this needs a long time planning and needs more minds to come up with. Furthermore, this is a good thing to implement indeed.

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

[Zianingbu]

All clear. Today, there are a lot of projects that unfortunately are trying to deceive and steal our funds. I hope that the guys will be able to prove that they really insulted the people.

This team deceiving us needs to have a needed punishment for them. This suits them best. They need to pay for what they have done.

I agree with you, of course you need to answer for your actions. Especially if it was a hoax with investments, fundraising by fraud, should be punished.

only it is not clear how they can be punished and who will punish them? I think that no one will be able to punish these scammers.

It can punish the court, but it is too long a process that can last for years. And naturally, no one wants to mess with it, because it does not want to spend money and time.

To be honest, I have never heard of the fact that in a real court issues relating to cryptocurrency activities are resolved.

if I am not mistaken, then there is such a court in Italy, which already solves similar questions on cryptocurrency exchanges that have been won over.

[dolcevita99]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

[damniatx_]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

[Mikwik]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

Yes you have a point that there is a hope in a refund, and there will always be, but that hope is not that high, for us to keep calm. We all know that when it come to money matters, it is very cautious and hard to believe in every words.

[lobster88]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

[Dua]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

[rabotacoin]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

Yes you have a point that there is a hope in a refund, and there will always be, but that hope is not that high, for us to keep calm. We all know that when it come to money matters, it is very cautious and hard to believe in every words.

in our time, when working with money, you need to be very careful. There are always people who want to deceive you, so you need to be extremely attentive before investing.

[fromkrec]

I would like to ask, is the author of this topic preparing any more news on this topic or will there be nothing new anymore?

[Purvik]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well, that is right. You've got the point here that this project is a fraudulent one that we crypto people should avoid.

[Zianingbu]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

Someone hopes for a refund, and someone has already abandoned this venture and decided to leave as is. But all the same justice will be.

[dolcevita99]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

Well, yes, there are of course such cases as a non-slapping wallet while you were making a transfer. In such cases, they are credited after the wallet works.

[coinbitcoin91]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well, that is right. You've got the point here that this project is a fraudulent one that we crypto people should avoid.

Well it is clear. That this topic was created in order for users to see how we were deceived and taken away our investments. Everything is clearly written at the beginning of this topic.

[damniatx_]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

Someone hopes for a refund, and someone has already abandoned this venture and decided to leave as is. But all the same justice will be.

I think there will be no refund, it is simply unrealistic. We can only talk here on this topic and nothing more will happen.

[Dua]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well, that is right. You've got the point here that this project is a fraudulent one that we crypto people should avoid.

Well, in principle, it was clear from the very beginning, but the fact is that there are so many different fraudulent projects and we are not insured against losses.

[BorisWCR]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well, that is right. You've got the point here that this project is a fraudulent one that we crypto people should avoid.

They are just giving the proofs and evidences for other people to belive more as we all have here different fraudulent projects. Well, I know for sure that other people have been notice that this project is a fraud even at the beginning.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

There are still so many questions left here but the reality itself tells that this project is one that crypto users should be avoided.

[Mikwik]

I re-read the first post of this topic again, and understood one thing. If your payment does not go beyond 24 hours, then you need to sound the alarm, otherwise your money will just fly away.

but not always you can understand that something is wrong with the payment during these 24 hours, but in any case there is hope for a refund.

Someone hopes for a refund, and someone has already abandoned this venture and decided to leave as is. But all the same justice will be.

I think there will be no refund, it is simply unrealistic. We can only talk here on this topic and nothing more will happen.

The refunding gives no such hope as we can see, they are not respondig even here. They are not even saying anything. It seems here that they are just saying that they were really frauds, and even they not say it, it is very clear within.

[anodyne]

in our time, when working with money, you need to be very careful. There are always people who want to deceive you, so you need to be extremely attentive before investing.

That is right. Because in the era we are living in, there are so many things that could happen even we expects that is too impossible. Also, scammers doing different hacking makes our time to be more dangerous than we could think about

[Zianingbu]

Where is the administrator of this topic? I have already asked, when will the evidence be added that these guys are nudged and thrown for money?

[Trader_13]

There are still so many questions left here but the reality itself tells that this project is one that crypto users should be avoided.

I hope that a larger number of users who wanted to put their investments there, will come here and read all the information that is written here about this project.

[coinbitcoin91]

There are still so many questions left here but the reality itself tells that this project is one that crypto users should be avoided.

It is clear that it is now desirable to avoid them and not to invest there, unless of course you want to lose your money.

[dolcevita99]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

[Levyathan]

Lol, i wont even expect if all of them are scammers.

[rabotacoin]

Lol, i wont even expect if all of them are scammers.

Why don't you expect this? For you, there is little evidence that is described here? Or what do you mean?

[damniatx_]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

[TechComputer]

This article made for you to understand how does the get rich scheme: https://news.bitcoin.com/most-masternode-coins-are-a-scam/

[KingDome]

masternode and pos scam shall be prevented.

[Dua]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well, that is right. You've got the point here that this project is a fraudulent one that we crypto people should avoid.

They are just giving the proofs and evidences for other people to belive more as we all have here different fraudulent projects. Well, I know for sure that other people have been notice that this project is a fraud even at the beginning.

but in any case it is a useful topic, because as many people as possible should know about these scammers who are cheating people.

[rabotacoin]

in our time, when working with money, you need to be very careful. There are always people who want to deceive you, so you need to be extremely attentive before investing.

That is right. Because in the era we are living in, there are so many things that could happen even we expects that is too impossible. Also, scammers doing different hacking makes our time to be more dangerous than we could think about

In your opinion, what should you pay attention to when any project proposes to invest in it in a very profitable way?

[coinbitcoin91]

It has become a lot of users to write exactly the fact that it is time to stop such frauds. You really need to do something, because so many people have invested and are left without money.

[dolcevita99]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

I agree. Even it is much better that there are no representatives here. If they were, then doubts would arise, and everything is clear.

[Zianingbu]

As written according to the evidence that they had wrong commissions and other suspicious percentages. I think that this is what gave the idea that the project scam.

[rabotacoin]

As written according to the evidence that they had wrong commissions and other suspicious percentages. I think that this is what gave the idea that the project scam.

There are many different nuances associated with fraudulent activities. Therefore, it cannot be said that only the commission and their percentages looked suspicious.

[damniatx_]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

I agree. Even it is much better that there are no representatives here. If they were, then doubts would arise, and everything is clear.

Well, if the representatives appeared here, then maybe they could explain something to us about their work. But apparently they do not need it.

[Purvik]

masternode and pos scam shall be prevented.

But it is not that easy as saying it to prevents masternodes ans POS scams. We all wanted to avoid and prevent it but how?

[lobster88]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well yes. You've got that. What's more important is the point of this to know by other people that this project is fraudulent which is necessary to be avoided.

[wpc143]

but in any case it is a useful topic, because as many people as possible should know about these scammers who are cheating people.

Yes. This ideas from the people willl help to prevent from being scammed. But it is also necessary to make a better self decision making in planning to invest in a crypto project. We know how risky this world is.

[connecoin]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

Well, at least by having in here we can express our opinions and thoughts on this matter. Even if they are not interested it is still useful as it will help to get the awareness from the crypto community.

[Mikwik]

There are still so many questions left here but the reality itself tells that this project is one that crypto users should be avoided.

I hope that a larger number of users who wanted to put their investments there, will come here and read all the information that is written here about this project.

That is right and be aware of this fraudulent project. Important thing is that this one should spread all over here in the crypto currency community.

[BorisWCR]

But unfortunately, hardly anyone of us can realize this idea. This should deal with people who know all such proofs and prove that they are fraudsters.

That is right. Anyone here is still not even close to conduct this idea, that would bring justifiable proofs for fraudsters. Well, I am curious what will happen next here.

I think nothing could be further, just all users here understand that this is a fraudulent project and that's all.

Well, that is right. You've got the point here that this project is a fraudulent one that we crypto people should avoid.

They are just giving the proofs and evidences for other people to belive more as we all have here different fraudulent projects. Well, I know for sure that other people have been notice that this project is a fraud even at the beginning.

but in any case it is a useful topic, because as many people as possible should know about these scammers who are cheating people.

That is right. This is a very helpful project to get help other people that could also be a victim of this scammers. And more than that, this should be spreadfor them to know also this fraudulent project.

[anodyne]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

Yes, they are just telling that all the accusations and opinions of all the people here are all true. Not even write something to fight for themselves.

[sniper2018]

There are still so many questions left here but the reality itself tells that this project is one that crypto users should be avoided.

I hope that a larger number of users who wanted to put their investments there, will come here and read all the information that is written here about this project.

That is right and be aware of this fraudulent project. Important thing is that this one should spread all over here in the crypto currency community.

Yeah. It is a great a idea to spread this infos in the whole sphere so that there will be no people get scammed. And it can give good awareness for those people who are newly here and plans to engaged and invest in a specific project.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

They are not even interested to get back here and change back the people impression on them. So, it only gives a strong proof that they are real scammers and one with a fraud project spreading in here.

[anodyne]

Yeah. It is a great a idea to spread this infos in the whole sphere so that there will be no people get scammed. And it can give good awareness for those people who are newly here and plans to engaged and invest in a specific project.

That is right. This is one more great help for the whole crypto community for our fellow crypto users to be help out to avoid this fraudulent project, just like how I notice and know this project.

[Mikwik]

Yeah. It is a great a idea to spread this infos in the whole sphere so that there will be no people get scammed. And it can give good awareness for those people who are newly here and plans to engaged and invest in a specific project.

That is right. This is one more great help for the whole crypto community for our fellow crypto users to be help out to avoid this fraudulent project, just like how I notice and know this project.

I admired how this was started. Well, indeed you are right buddy that this one is one thing that is a great help for other crypto users that could reach this information for them to avoid and be not one of the victims of this people that deceives others.

[lobster88]

Yeah. It is a great a idea to spread this infos in the whole sphere so that there will be no people get scammed. And it can give good awareness for those people who are newly here and plans to engaged and invest in a specific project.

Helping out other fellow crypto users even in a simple way like telling these truth and spread it wide more here in the crypto community is one thing that we could do in a way for those other individuals to have awareners to those scammers.

[BorisWCR]

but in any case it is a useful topic, because as many people as possible should know about these scammers who are cheating people.

Yes. This ideas from the people willl help to prevent from being scammed. But it is also necessary to make a better self decision making in planning to invest in a crypto project. We know how risky this world is.

That is right. This is just another warning to be more careful here in the crypto currency community, informing to not just trust and be more cautious in investing to certain crypto projects.

[Purvik]

Really, scammers deceiving people is not new here in the crypto currency community. Indeed, it is already been a part in here which I know that most people know but not yetaware to all.there doings. And this is one thing that could help warned a lots of crypto users and investors to be more cautious and careful in investing.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

[Trader_13]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

They are not even interested to get back here and change back the people impression on them. So, it only gives a strong proof that they are real scammers and one with a fraud project spreading in here.

I am 100% sure that it is. Because there would be other messages on this topic, but no one denies them, then all this is true.

[dolcevita99]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

Well, at least by having in here we can express our opinions and thoughts on this matter. Even if they are not interested it is still useful as it will help to get the awareness from the crypto community.

It's good that not only I noticed it, but other users also write that they did not see any contradictions from them either. Most likely, they have no options to prove something if everything is clear.

[Zianingbu]

As written according to the evidence that they had wrong commissions and other suspicious percentages. I think that this is what gave the idea that the project scam.

There are many different nuances associated with fraudulent activities. Therefore, it cannot be said that only the commission and their percentages looked suspicious.

Perhaps, but maybe you know some other evidence besides this? Because I only read for it. If you know I will be grateful for the answer.

[coinbitcoin91]

Really, scammers deceiving people is not new here in the crypto currency community. Indeed, it is already been a part in here which I know that most people know but not yetaware to all.there doings. And this is one thing that could help warned a lots of crypto users and investors to be more cautious and careful in investing.

I support you my friend. Who if not we saw a project that deals with fraud, we will warn other users so that they do not make their investments in this project.

[Zianingbu]

Really, scammers deceiving people is not new here in the crypto currency community. Indeed, it is already been a part in here which I know that most people know but not yetaware to all.there doings. And this is one thing that could help warned a lots of crypto users and investors to be more cautious and careful in investing.

I support you my friend. Who if not we saw a project that deals with fraud, we will warn other users so that they do not make their investments in this project.

This is a great idea! It is necessary to create a separate group where everyone will write that projects are scammers. Then everyone will see where it is impossible to invest, otherwise they will be deceived.

[coinbitcoin91]

Really, scammers deceiving people is not new here in the crypto currency community. Indeed, it is already been a part in here which I know that most people know but not yetaware to all.there doings. And this is one thing that could help warned a lots of crypto users and investors to be more cautious and careful in investing.

I support you my friend. Who if not we saw a project that deals with fraud, we will warn other users so that they do not make their investments in this project.

This is a great idea! It is necessary to create a separate group where everyone will write that projects are scammers. Then everyone will see where it is impossible to invest, otherwise they will be deceived.

Yes, well invented. Now I think that many have seen that they are fraudsters and they steal investments.

[Trader_13]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

[hatsuneczelmiku]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

[BorisWCR]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's good. Never make putting all your crypto assets in investments. That is too much risky, seems like putting your future in the hands of fortune. Just make investments you will never regret to lose. Just balance and always be aware to scammers like this.

[anodyne]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

They are not even interested to get back here and change back the people impression on them. So, it only gives a strong proof that they are real scammers and one with a fraud project spreading in here.

I am 100% sure that it is. Because there would be other messages on this topic, but no one denies them, then all this is true.

The fact that this is all true cannot be denied. What ever they do, whether they will deny it or not, the fact that they decieves people and this scam they wanted to spread, all will no be change. Becuase in the end, the truth will conquer.

[damniatx_]

If they do not write here that we are wrong, then I can say with confidence that this project is really scam. If this were not so, then they would write contradictions, but they do not do that.

I agree with you. This may indicate that they are simply not interested in us changing our opinion about them.

They are not even interested to get back here and change back the people impression on them. So, it only gives a strong proof that they are real scammers and one with a fraud project spreading in here.

I am 100% sure that it is. Because there would be other messages on this topic, but no one denies them, then all this is true.

The fact that this is all true cannot be denied. What ever they do, whether they will deny it or not, the fact that they decieves people and this scam they wanted to spread, all will no be change. Becuase in the end, the truth will conquer.

the most important thing is that we all know about this and in fact I think hardly any of the deceived users will believe their explanations.

[Dua]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's good. Never make putting all your crypto assets in investments. That is too much risky, seems like putting your future in the hands of fortune. Just make investments you will never regret to lose. Just balance and always be aware to scammers like this.

but unfortunately it is not always possible to be one hundred percent sure that you have successfully invested your money in any project. You can only hope for good luck.

[Mikwik]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's good. Never make putting all your crypto assets in investments. That is too much risky, seems like putting your future in the hands of fortune. Just make investments you will never regret to lose. Just balance and always be aware to scammers like this.

but unfortunately it is not always possible to be one hundred percent sure that you have successfully invested your money in any project. You can only hope for good luck.

That is right. Because in investing is not so far from gambling your money. It needs luck and hope in investing. But also, a wise decision and strategy is integrated in investing.

[lobster88]

The fact that this is all true cannot be denied. What ever they do, whether they will deny it or not, the fact that they decieves people and this scam they wanted to spread, all will no be change. Becuase in the end, the truth will conquer.

That is the main point why the author of this spread and share this. Because he wanted us to be aware of this matter and avoid investing in this project. A very worthy of fellow crypto user. I hope more individuals will come to know and reach this thread.

[Purvik]

This kind of doing is a good thing as spreading all this information here in the crypto currency community for the other people to get aware about this, avoiding our fellow crypto users to be not scammed by such project and hace the awareness for the newbies here that is still lack in knowledge but already planning to enfage and put investments in certain crypto projects.

[rabotacoin]

The fact that this is all true cannot be denied. What ever they do, whether they will deny it or not, the fact that they decieves people and this scam they wanted to spread, all will no be change. Becuase in the end, the truth will conquer.

That is the main point why the author of this spread and share this. Because he wanted us to be aware of this matter and avoid investing in this project. A very worthy of fellow crypto user. I hope more individuals will come to know and reach this thread.

I would also like as many people as possible to know the truth about this project. I think we should disseminate information in any social networks.

[fromkrec]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's good. Never make putting all your crypto assets in investments. That is too much risky, seems like putting your future in the hands of fortune. Just make investments you will never regret to lose. Just balance and always be aware to scammers like this.

but unfortunately it is not always possible to be one hundred percent sure that you have successfully invested your money in any project. You can only hope for good luck.

That is right. Because in investing is not so far from gambling your money. It needs luck and hope in investing. But also, a wise decision and strategy is integrated in investing.

I personally think that today there are very few projects whose tokens will have some high value in the future.

[Zianingbu]

Really, scammers deceiving people is not new here in the crypto currency community. Indeed, it is already been a part in here which I know that most people know but not yetaware to all.there doings. And this is one thing that could help warned a lots of crypto users and investors to be more cautious and careful in investing.

I support you my friend. Who if not we saw a project that deals with fraud, we will warn other users so that they do not make their investments in this project.

This is a great idea! It is necessary to create a separate group where everyone will write that projects are scammers. Then everyone will see where it is impossible to invest, otherwise they will be deceived.

Yes, well invented. Now I think that many have seen that they are fraudsters and they steal investments.

Exactly. There is a lot of information that now there are a lot of scammers who steal investments. I hope that they will soon become much smaller and such actions will be squatted.

[dolcevita99]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's good. Never make putting all your crypto assets in investments. That is too much risky, seems like putting your future in the hands of fortune. Just make investments you will never regret to lose. Just balance and always be aware to scammers like this.

but unfortunately it is not always possible to be one hundred percent sure that you have successfully invested your money in any project. You can only hope for good luck.

That is right. Because in investing is not so far from gambling your money. It needs luck and hope in investing. But also, a wise decision and strategy is integrated in investing.

I personally think that today there are very few projects whose tokens will have some high value in the future.

I agree with you. Due to the fact that there are many scammers and those who are just doing scam projects that tokens do not cost anything at all.

[coinbitcoin91]

It is a pity that such projects spoil the reputation of other projects that make for people. There are tokens that may cost good money in the future. But because of these, they are not valued now.

[Trader_13]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's right. The main thing that people understand that such actions do not need to commit. Otherwise, on their grief, fraudsters earn millions. And of course no one will return them to anyone.

[rabotacoin]

It is our ownselves that can avoid such things here in the crypto currency community. It is own decision too that will lead in disastrous end here in the crypto currency community. So what we must do is aways be aware and careful to what we will end up investing.

And you need to think over all your investments and not invest your own money in the projects of the last. It is imperative to think about doing such things.

Yes, we need to think about our future to all of our actions to be made. Even in a sigle mistake, can ruin a big part of our life. And so like in investing here in the crypto currency community.

That's good. Never make putting all your crypto assets in investments. That is too much risky, seems like putting your future in the hands of fortune. Just make investments you will never regret to lose. Just balance and always be aware to scammers like this.

but unfortunately it is not always possible to be one hundred percent sure that you have successfully invested your money in any project. You can only hope for good luck.

That is right. Because in investing is not so far from gambling your money. It needs luck and hope in investing. But also, a wise decision and strategy is integrated in investing.

I personally think that today there are very few projects whose tokens will have some high value in the future.

I agree with you. Due to the fact that there are many scammers and those who are just doing scam projects that tokens do not cost anything at all.

I personally do not understand what is the point for scammers to do such projects today, looking at such a weak market. I think now there are very few investors.

[damniatx_]

It is a pity that such projects spoil the reputation of other projects that make for people. There are tokens that may cost good money in the future. But because of these, they are not valued now.

Yes, it is really very difficult to find good tokens that will have a good growth prospect. In addition, there is still a lot of fraud among them.

[Gentarium]

Update about CHT, they are using account named GTM to dump coins to frame us

[chtdev]

I am writing this in response to the constant attacks from other services and how they jumped on board with an obvious scam dev of WOPC and began spreading even more incorrect information about our service. First of all the accusations of CHT dumping rewards is false and can easily be seen by doing your own research. Second, all shared services sell the rewards that the charge users in order to stay in business if they say otherwise they are clearly lying. I have been quietly researching each of the services involved in this fud spreading and have wrote a couple Medium Articles to show you all the truth. The accusation that we "dumped" WOPC instant rewards is entirely false, the arrangement we made with the WOPC dev was the following: CHT keeps 4% and Investors would receive a portion of the Instant rewards based on their balance compared to the collateral, so Investor had 100 coins they would get 10% of the rewards and CHT would get 4% and the dev would get the remainder. This is what was agreed and what actually happened. Fast forward 24hrs later I noticed the WOPC dev began to dump the premine that he had set aside on CB here are the links to the accounts he used http://bts.ai/u/hummer-simpson http://bts.ai/u/magicoin55 http://bts.ai/u/lujah-srix http://bts.ai/u/gustav7613. Clearly this pissed him off and as I warned investors they began to sell also and that is when the WOPC and GTM came up with the elaborate scheme of accusing us LOL!


Here the links to the Articles that I have written to compare the services that have teamed up against us!:


https://link.medium.com/yuFKBvvkXW

https://link.medium.com/raf1fHtkXW