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July 08, 2019, 01:30:32 PM
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12 days to go and more days to put your bets everyone. Philippines will be another ghost town when the fight starts because everyone is on their local TV, radio's watching and listening the fight.

Definitely 50/50 to me, I'm a Manny fan, but we cant sleep with a fighter like Thurman's caliber, very young and hungry to give Manny his last paycheck and retire him for good.

Then, Keith Thurman must shown something good in the ring like how his mouth saying that full of jokes. Keith will just run and run when the fight starts. Better to shut his mouth, then if not, manny will do it and will make his face just like a punching bag. Tongue

Watched some fight of thurman and he does seems running more of the time. Better to give and show us a good fight in July 20th and prove that he will make manny retire. Cheesy

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July 09, 2019, 03:40:31 AM
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Then, Keith Thurman must shown something good in the ring like how his mouth saying that full of jokes. Keith will just run and run when the fight starts. Better to shut his mouth, then if not, manny will do it and will make his face just like a punching bag. Tongue

Watched some fight of thurman and he does seems running more of the time. Better to give and show us a good fight in July 20th and prove that he will make manny retire. Cheesy

Keith is a decade younger than Manny and therefore it makes sense for him to run around the ring during the initial rounds. Once Manny gets tired, Thurman can go for the kill. But these simple tactics may not work to a great degree against Manny, who has decades of experience. IMO, Thurman should try to get a KO during the initial 5-6 rounds.

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July 09, 2019, 06:05:15 AM
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Once Manny gets tired, Thurman can go for the kill.

I'm sorry but did we see Manny got tired in any of his fight?

I think that's why he is winning because he is too condition and the only way to beat him is through bias decision or if he is hit with a lucky punch.

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July 09, 2019, 06:14:39 AM
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Once Manny gets tired, Thurman can go for the kill.

I'm sorry but did we see Manny got tired in any of his fight?

I think that's why he is winning because he is too condition and the only way to beat him is through bias decision or if he is hit with a lucky punch.

OK.. Let me summarize the positives and negatives for both Thurman and Manny:

Manny Pacquiao:

Advantages:
1. Overwhelming fan support
2. Decades of experience in boxing
3. As per reports, he is in good form recently

Disadvantages:
1. At 40 years, he is nearing retirement
2. Stayed away from boxing and got involved in politics recently
3. Floyd's refusal to fight him might have affected the morale

Keith Thurman:

Advantages:
1. At 30 years, he is in prime age.
2. The fight will happen in the US and there is a chance that the jury might be in his favor
3. Recent form has been good

Disadvantages:
1. His last win by KO was almost six years ago
2. There is a lot of pressure on him to win this fight
3. Betting odds are rapidly shifting against his favor
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July 09, 2019, 07:06:21 AM
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looking at the news today, a statement from Errol Spence jr., he said "I think Thurman will be sharper than his last fight. Thurman is more formidable than anyone expected," said Spence, quoted from the Boxing Scene on Thursday (07/04/2019 )

hopefully in a match, Pacman can prove that he is still worthy of being considered a world-class boxer.
There is nothing more than pacman has to prove anymore because he already have proven himself a lot of times already. Tho, if pacman defeats thurman it would means that pacman is still on his reign. Considering the fact that thurman is a very dangerous fighter who also accepts solid punches. Who ever win the fight tho, as long as both fighters keep the fight clean and will entertain us then they should deserve a huge respect
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July 09, 2019, 07:49:25 AM
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Manny Pacquiao:

Disadvantages:
1. At 40 years, he is nearing retirement
2. Stayed away from boxing and got involved in politics recently
3. Floyd's refusal to fight him might have affected the morale

I think Floyd has not refused to fight Pacquiao, it is just the timing is not yet there. Floyd is retired in boxing and has not fought for almost 2 years and he may need a tune-up fight before he face Pacman. Every time Manny fights, his morale is high and he wants his fans to be entertain and happy as well.
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July 09, 2019, 08:04:32 AM
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I think Floyd has not refused to fight Pacquiao, it is just the timing is not yet there. Floyd is retired in boxing and has not fought for almost 2 years and he may need a tune-up fight before he face Pacman. Every time Manny fights, his morale is high and he wants his fans to be entertain and happy as well.

I am not sure whether Floyd has made his retirement official or not. His last fight against Conor netted him more than $300 million and he can expect a similar amount in case he takes on Manny Pacquiao once more. My opinion is that he is still capable of 1-2 fights. If Manny wins against Thurman, then the prospect of a Floyd vs Manny rematch may be too hard to ignore for everyone.
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July 09, 2019, 09:07:05 AM
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I think Floyd has not refused to fight Pacquiao, it is just the timing is not yet there. Floyd is retired in boxing and has not fought for almost 2 years and he may need a tune-up fight before he face Pacman. Every time Manny fights, his morale is high and he wants his fans to be entertain and happy as well.

I am not sure whether Floyd has made his retirement official or not. His last fight against Conor netted him more than $300 million and he can expect a similar amount in case he takes on Manny Pacquiao once more. My opinion is that he is still capable of 1-2 fights. If Manny wins against Thurman, then the prospect of a Floyd vs Manny rematch may be too hard to ignore for everyone.

That was official, the fight against Conor was more of an exhibition fight only and their only weapon to make that boring fight a success was just the media hype. So are we still gonna buy Mayweather's hype?, Knowing it would still end up a boring fight.

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July 09, 2019, 09:50:08 AM
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That was official, the fight against Conor was more of an exhibition fight only and their only weapon to make that boring fight a success was just the media hype. So are we still gonna buy Mayweather's hype?, Knowing it would still end up a boring fight.

I beg to disagree. Fighting against Floyd Mayweather will definitely just be a boring fight, but we never knew. The point of that Conor & Mayweather fight is just for the money, nothing else. If manny defeat thurman in july 20th and there would some humor that would have Manny & Mayweather 2. I hope that there’s no bias or unfair decision of the judges.

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July 09, 2019, 12:47:42 PM
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That was official, the fight against Conor was more of an exhibition fight only and their only weapon to make that boring fight a success was just the media hype. So are we still gonna buy Mayweather's hype?, Knowing it would still end up a boring fight.

I beg to disagree. Fighting against Floyd Mayweather will definitely just be a boring fight, but we never knew. The point of that Conor & Mayweather fight is just for the money, nothing else. If manny defeat thurman in july 20th and there would some humor that would have Manny & Mayweather 2. I hope that there’s no bias or unfair decision of the judges.

Conor vs Mayweather fight is not a boxing fight as conor is not a boxer, he is a UFC fighter so no way he will win against Mayweather.
If we like to witnessed whose the greatest in boxing, we should watch a boxer fighting a fellow boxer and Maywather vs Pacma rematch would be a good example of a good fight, of course we shall see if this happens after this fight with Thurman.

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July 09, 2019, 12:55:19 PM
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That was official, the fight against Conor was more of an exhibition fight only and their only weapon to make that boring fight a success was just the media hype. So are we still gonna buy Mayweather's hype?, Knowing it would still end up a boring fight.

I beg to disagree. Fighting against Floyd Mayweather will definitely just be a boring fight, but we never knew. The point of that Conor & Mayweather fight is just for the money, nothing else. If manny defeat thurman in july 20th and there would some humor that would have Manny & Mayweather 2. I hope that there’s no bias or unfair decision of the judges.

Conor vs Mayweather fight is not a boxing fight as conor is not a boxer, he is a UFC fighter so no way he will win against Mayweather.
If we like to witnessed whose the greatest in boxing, we should watch a boxer fighting a fellow boxer and Maywather vs Pacma rematch would be a good example of a good fight, of course we shall see if this happens after this fight with Thurman.

I agree, it's more of just for pure entertainment and for the love of money.

If you guys wanted to see a war, I suggest you look for the Ward-Gatti, if I'm not mistaken they have a trilogy, but the first two fights are epic. Those two became friends after the fight and Ward is one of the pall bearer when Gatti was laid to rest.

Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

https://sports.abs-cbn.com/boxing/news/2019/07/09/look-manny-pacquiao-s-son-jimuel-joins-training-session-58894

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July 09, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

Good luck to him -  Grin

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July 09, 2019, 05:26:17 PM
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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

https://sports.abs-cbn.com/boxing/news/2019/07/09/look-manny-pacquiao-s-son-jimuel-joins-training-session-58894
I also saw that and it seems his son is also into boxing. I just hope he can be as good if not better than his father so that the legacy will continue.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

It is natural to have some pressure because of what his father achieved. But what I heard is that it is his son's choice to do boxing. Training will come naturally for him and with Manny's guidance, he can be a top-notch boxer soon.
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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

Good luck to him -  Grin

I initially thought that Manny Pacquiao doesn't want any of his son to follow in his footsteps, specially inside the boxing ring. So I'm surprised that he allowed his son to go side by side with him in his training regimen.

There could be a lot of pressures, just look at Chavez Jr, he did try to be like his father. In the beginning he was very successful, however, when they step up on opposition, they see the Chavez Jr doesn't have the skills that his father has. I'm not saying that Jimuel will not be great, but it's going to be difficult to follow what is father did to boxing. So let's see, and I'm sure many will follow this kid's career.

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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

Good luck to him -  Grin

I initially thought that Manny Pacquiao doesn't want any of his son to follow in his footsteps, specially inside the boxing ring. So I'm surprised that he allowed his son to go side by side with him in his training regimen.

There could be a lot of pressures, just look at Chavez Jr, he did try to be like his father. In the beginning he was very successful, however, when they step up on opposition, they see the Chavez Jr doesn't have the skills that his father has. I'm not saying that Jimuel will not be great, but it's going to be difficult to follow what is father did to boxing. So let's see, and I'm sure many will follow this kid's career.

Surprised me too. I thought that Jimuel just joining to his father practice for the support and motivation that he can give to his father.

I hope there’s more a lot of videos will shown up that the “Living Legend (AKA Manny Pacquiao)” teaching his son and letting him to continue his journey if somehow manny will retire.

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July 10, 2019, 09:00:07 AM
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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

Good luck to him -  Grin

I initially thought that Manny Pacquiao doesn't want any of his son to follow in his footsteps, specially inside the boxing ring. So I'm surprised that he allowed his son to go side by side with him in his training regimen.

There could be a lot of pressures, just look at Chavez Jr, he did try to be like his father. In the beginning he was very successful, however, when they step up on opposition, they see the Chavez Jr doesn't have the skills that his father has. I'm not saying that Jimuel will not be great, but it's going to be difficult to follow what is father did to boxing. So let's see, and I'm sure many will follow this kid's career.

Surprised me too. I thought that Jimuel just joining to his father practice for the support and motivation that he can give to his father.

I hope there’s more a lot of videos will shown up that the “Living Legend (AKA Manny Pacquiao)” teaching his son and letting him to continue his journey if somehow manny will retire.


This is Jimuel Pacquiao's first amateur fight, winning by KO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegXcAVfphw

Looks like he has some pop as well, but I'm not sure if he can follow what his Legendary dad did in his prime.


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July 10, 2019, 09:47:38 AM
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Surprised me too. I thought that Jimuel just joining to his father practice for the support and motivation that he can give to his father.

I hope there’s more a lot of videos will shown up that the “Living Legend (AKA Manny Pacquiao)” teaching his son and letting him to continue his journey if somehow manny will retire.


This is Jimuel Pacquiao's first amateur fight, winning by KO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegXcAVfphw

Looks like he has some pop as well, but I'm not sure if he can follow what his Legendary dad did in his prime.



He has have something too. Yet, not quite sure from what manny did before for his first fight being professional boxer.

Manny Pacquiao First Fight as Professional Boxer.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nOf5FO6_VPs

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Yes he was 16 in this fight .. he had to lie and say he was 18 in order to fight . he needed to win money for his family - comment section
- And look what manny pacquiao now. A really good inspiration to motivate ourselves.

What a beast that is truly born to be a great fighter. Damn, what if thurman might see a beast manny pacquiao in their incoming fight? Roll Eyes



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July 10, 2019, 09:48:02 AM
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I initially thought that Manny Pacquiao doesn't want any of his son to follow in his footsteps, specially inside the boxing ring. So I'm surprised that he allowed his son to go side by side with him in his training regimen.
It's just training but i doubt that Jimuel will turn pro as Jinky (Manny's wife) is against the idea of Jimuel boxing. For me it's just television exposure as Jimuel is into showbiz in the Philippines.
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July 10, 2019, 10:34:43 AM
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Well , I just want to consider some thoughts. Will Pacman be resigning after his fight with Thurman if he loses this one?.

I think no, but if we are going to talk about him fighting in Vegas again might be a no answer.

Also , according to forbes, just to OT a little bit.  If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterkahn/2019/07/09/manny-pacquiao-vs-keith-thurman-why-july-20-could-be-the-last-time-pacquiao-ever-fights-in-las-vegas/
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July 10, 2019, 01:29:10 PM
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.

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