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Thanks for the comparing charts. What caused the waffle-pool performance to go down?
It was under DDOS attack for most of the day with servers inaccessible.
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Thanks for the info and keep up the good work! Donation sent.
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Thanks for the info and keep up the good work! Donation sent.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
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Of course as soon as I removed Middlecoin it has become the best performing multipool, so I added it back in. Waffle had DDOS issues for ~6 hours of the last 24, which affects its results as well as others, e.g. GHash.IO/LTC hashrate fluctuated between 8 and 30+ GH/s, Coinshift hashrate tripled and has not come down yet, etc. I am planning to add SimpleDoge sometime later this week. It's a small pool so high variance is expected but - at least in theory - after the recent DOGE fork it should not be a disadvantage in the long run. We'll see how it works out.
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Yo suchmoon, We have a multipool (altcoinplex) up over at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464337 . We'd appreciate your feedback if you have a spare rig to test us out and provide us with your invaluable comments/review!
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I think the CoinSolver problems are over? It was a Ddos I believe.
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I think the CoinSolver problems are over? It was a Ddos I believe.
I tried to run 1.5M at CoinSolver for the last 36 hours and it keeps dropping to my failover. I don't think its stable.
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I think the CoinSolver problems are over? It was a Ddos I believe.
I tried to run 1.5M at CoinSolver for the last 36 hours and it keeps dropping to my failover. I don't think its stable. What I would really like to see on CoinSolver is a pool hashrate chart for the last 24 hours (or more). Something like this: http://clevermining.com/hashrateThis would help tremendously to evaluate the stability of the pool.
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I think the CoinSolver problems are over? It was a Ddos I believe.
I tried to run 1.5M at CoinSolver for the last 36 hours and it keeps dropping to my failover. I don't think its stable. What I would really like to see on CoinSolver is a pool hashrate chart for the last 24 hours (or more). Something like this: http://clevermining.com/hashrateThis would help tremendously to evaluate the stability of the pool. Glad to see you looking into this pool as well.. I went ahead and pointed 10 MH's at it and will give it a week or so to see what I think.. But it does look interesting..
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I am planning to add SimpleDoge sometime later this week. It's a small pool so high variance is expected but - at least in theory - after the recent DOGE fork it should not be a disadvantage in the long run. We'll see how it works out. Thanks for adding DOGE to the list. I'm also very interested in what happens with DOGE now after the fork.
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First order of business today is an apology. I had a hardware malfunction yesterday, which I did not notice until after I published the charts and this resulted in incorrect data for ScryptGuild. I hate having to correct published data but I have no choice here. ScryptGuild earnings for 2014-03-25 have been adjusted up to ~0.0045 from ~0.0042 and this of course slightly affected averages as well. I'm sorry about this issue. Today I added SimpleDoge. As expected with a small pool there is a lot of good/bad luck involved - they found 3 quick blocks yesterday and now are chewing on one for 20+ hours. Give it a week or two to see some real numbers. I have split LeaseRig.net payouts into hourly earnings and distributed on the daily charts. This should allow to compare it to others more easily. And finally, I moved the charts around and stretched the big one vertically, which hopefully will make it easier to see the lines. However since the charts are getting so crowded I highly recommend clicking on the " Interactive spreadsheet" link - this allows you to highlight lines, see actual data values, etc.
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There is a bit of a problem with the size of the pool, isn't it? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The other thing that worries me is the issue with the exchange posted on the stats page. Which of the recently deceased exchanges were you using and how is that going to affect future profits?
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There is a bit of a problem with the size of the pool, isn't it? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thats true, we launched about two months ago but haven't been too active in the forums until just a couple of days ago when we have finished a new version of our backend and website. The other thing that worries me is the issue with the exchange posted on the stats page. Which of the recently deceased exchanges were you using and how is that going to affect future profits?
Yea, that was disheartening. We were on Vircurex when they prevented withdrawals for a couple of days and placed a notice that they were going to freeze the wallets. That's when we had to make a once-off decision to trade our available BTC to DOGE, transfer them to another exchange, trade DOGE to BTC and excute the payout rather than withholding our miners earnings any longer. Our approximate BTC/MH/day for that period, based on one of our miners, http://stats.altcoinplex.com/users/bitcoin/1MjNG9pGippwTSHraPnB1MBKwjr4q2ykiY.html, with an avg hashrate of 1.3 MH/day from 20-24 March is ~0.00604216 BTC/MH/Day for that interval.
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Hey Suchmoon,
Why the huge dip in Vert yesterday? Was it market or hardware or pool? Just wondering. Trying to get a decent vert miner setup but I want to mine GPUcoin I think. I just want to know I can fall back to Vert if that doesn't work out the way I have planned.
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No major changes for today. Hey Suchmoon,
Why the huge dip in Vert yesterday? Was it market or hardware or pool? Just wondering. Trying to get a decent vert miner setup but I want to mine GPUcoin I think. I just want to know I can fall back to Vert if that doesn't work out the way I have planned.
The way I understand it (and I'm in no way a Vertcoin expert so take this with a truckload of salt) this was due to a sudden difficulty spike. Vertcoin adjusts difficulty with every block, i.e. reacts quickly to hashrate increase. Over the last few days network hashrate roughly doubled - perhaps due to low profitability of other coins and favorable VTC/BTC exchange rate. This caused difficulty to rise from ~150 to ~300 or so. This obviously reduced earnings per MH/s. Now the exchange rate is down from its peak, hashrate is decreasing, and difficulty is also moving down towards 200. I wouldn't worry too much about the daily spikes. I prefer the 5-day moving average chart, I think it provides a more balanced view, although some context is good to know - e.g. Wafflepool issues with DDOS will be holding its average down for a few days.
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There is a bit of a problem with the size of the pool, isn't it? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thats true, we launched about two months ago but haven't been too active in the forums until just a couple of days ago when we have finished a new version of our backend and website. The other thing that worries me is the issue with the exchange posted on the stats page. Which of the recently deceased exchanges were you using and how is that going to affect future profits?
Yea, that was disheartening. We were on Vircurex when they prevented withdrawals for a couple of days and placed a notice that they were going to freeze the wallets. That's when we had to make a once-off decision to trade our available BTC to DOGE, transfer them to another exchange, trade DOGE to BTC and excute the payout rather than withholding our miners earnings any longer. Our approximate BTC/MH/day for that period, based on one of our miners, http://stats.altcoinplex.com/users/bitcoin/1MjNG9pGippwTSHraPnB1MBKwjr4q2ykiY.html, with an avg hashrate of 1.3 MH/day from 20-24 March is ~0.00604216 BTC/MH/Day for that interval. Thanks for clearing that up. I think I'll point some hashrate next week at your pool to see how you are doing and to help you grow, although I probably won't put it on the the chart just yet. Let's get at least into triple digits first and see how you cope with scaling ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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Hello Suchmoon. In your spreadsheet (performance data) I see two tables with data - upper and lower of the "average line", these data are quite different for one specific date, can you clarify this a little bit? May be this is the data from different rigs or something? Thanks.
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Hello Suchmoon. In your spreadsheet (performance data) I see two tables with data - upper and lower of the "average line", these data are quite different for one specific date, can you clarify this a little bit? May be this is the data from different rigs or something? Thanks.
The lower table is "moving average". Each number represents the average for the last five days. E.g. on 2014-03-26 it takes the average of numbers from the upper table for March 22, 23, 24, 25, 26; on the 27th it's the average of March 23, 24, 25, 26, 27; and so on. This is used to create the chart called "5-day moving average", which due to this averaging is a bit less spaghetti-like than the main chart. I hope this explains it. I was thinking to add some explanations to the spreadsheet itself, I can see how it might be confusing. If you see a specific discrepancy let me know which pool/date and I'll check it. It is quite possible I messed something up, happens to the best of us ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks for looking.
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Ok, it's much clearer now) Nice statistics work, may be useful for people to choose a multipool not only based by the one day data (esprecially in time of fast changing scrypt world). And in time of scrypt-asics invasion I would suggest, additionally to scrypt-N (Vertcoin), to consider addition of some keccak (sha-3) coin, such as Maxcoin. P.S. Oops I need to do some research on Heavycoin)
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While adding Vertcoin is a relatively fair proxy for Scrypt-N, I believe you should rather bench scrypt switching pools against a proper Scrypt-N switching pool. So far I've only come accross trademybit.com (there might be others).
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