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May 02, 2014, 05:21:38 PM |
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I have updated the OP to make it clear that I'm a provider (not a renter) on LeaseRig and NiceHash, and added some additional caveats to better explain how I'm using those non-multipool services.
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May 02, 2014, 05:34:37 PM |
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good thing i still kept my gpus... scrypt market is gonna get raped to pieces soon... look at innosilicon flood with shitload of germinator chips... their first batch production alone will easily cross 1 terahash... and then there's zeus who seems to promise to deliver before may 31st... http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=11In Stock: 10000 Pieces (18gh) Fastest 28nm Scrypt Asic I seriously doubt LA is sitting on a pile of 10000 chips. What's more interesting is how many of these 75-90 MH/s rigs Innosilicon resellers will actually ship in May, as their original estimates of May 5-10 have started to slip. If they can ship a significant number this will put a dent into Zeus' plans, and if they can drop the price like Gridseed did (down to about 1/3 in 2 months) this may even affect KNC and others.
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May 03, 2014, 06:10:51 AM |
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suchmoon, add TradeMyBit (x11) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Thx.
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May 03, 2014, 07:33:26 AM |
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suchmoon, add TradeMyBit (x11) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Thx. Good timing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just a couple of hours ago I fired up a new GPU rig for TMB-X11. Will start showing some results within the next few days.
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May 03, 2014, 07:38:57 AM |
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I have updated the OP to make it clear that I'm a provider (not a renter) on LeaseRig and NiceHash, and added some additional caveats to better explain how I'm using those non-multipool services.
I love you suchmoon for the work you do here. But the fight we do on LR is killing me... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Where do you get your electricity from? I am about to give up I'm telling you...
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May 03, 2014, 07:49:14 AM |
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I have updated the OP to make it clear that I'm a provider (not a renter) on LeaseRig and NiceHash, and added some additional caveats to better explain how I'm using those non-multipool services.
I love you suchmoon for the work you do here. But the fight we do on LR is killing me... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Where do you get your electricity from? I am about to give up I'm telling you... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Sorry, but 005 is my test rig so I have to rent it out otherwise the chart will show zero. I'll keep lowering the price until someone bites. I'll keep the other rig above yours ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I haven't done the math yet regarding electricity so I'm not sure if it's still profitable at the current price. Probably marginal.
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May 03, 2014, 08:00:37 AM |
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I have updated the OP to make it clear that I'm a provider (not a renter) on LeaseRig and NiceHash, and added some additional caveats to better explain how I'm using those non-multipool services.
I love you suchmoon for the work you do here. But the fight we do on LR is killing me... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Where do you get your electricity from? I am about to give up I'm telling you... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Sorry, but 005 is my test rig so I have to rent it out otherwise the chart will show zero. I'll keep lowering the price until someone bites. I'll keep the other rig above yours ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I haven't done the math yet regarding electricity so I'm not sure if it's still profitable at the current price. Probably marginal. Thanks anyway! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The main problem on X11 is the low number of renters. At my price with my current running rig (8 Gigabyte 280x cards in 3 rigs....pulled my test 7870 finally which caused lot of trouble unfortunately) it takes 1300 Watt and 5.5 USD for a day. Breakeven is at 0.0007352 BTC/Mhs/Day as of today. (X11 Mhs that is.) So we would be fine even by these prices, except the missing renters. I just fired up TMB X11, but pool already dropped few times.
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May 03, 2014, 08:07:28 AM |
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I just fired up TMB X11, but pool already dropped few times.
It seems to be dropping the connection when it switches coins. Most other multipools have fast switching without closing the connection, TMB apparently doesn't.
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May 03, 2014, 08:17:26 AM |
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I just fired up TMB X11, but pool already dropped few times.
It seems to be dropping the connection when it switches coins. Most other multipools have fast switching without closing the connection, TMB apparently doesn't. And LR stats calculation makes it a horrible V-dip. I tried to argue them, but no way. I particularly like the little jump-hills at the beginning of the V-dip. There must be some very bad mathematics behind the curve. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FufYomci.jpg%3F1&t=665&c=kz7NJgUZWLHzZg)
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May 03, 2014, 09:18:00 AM |
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I just fired up TMB X11, but pool already dropped few times.
It seems to be dropping the connection when it switches coins. Most other multipools have fast switching without closing the connection, TMB apparently doesn't. And LR stats calculation makes it a horrible V-dip. I tried to argue them, but no way. I particularly like the little jump-hills at the beginning of the V-dip. There must be some very bad mathematics behind the curve. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FufYomci.jpg%3F1&t=665&c=kz7NJgUZWLHzZg) Yeah, visually it looks like it was down for two minutes, although actually it was only a few seconds. On the bright side - my cheap rig has been rented out, enjoy the top spot ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 03, 2014, 09:21:59 AM |
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On the bright side - my cheap rig has been rented out, enjoy the top spot ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeeeah! Your price was irresistible...
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May 03, 2014, 12:50:27 PM |
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It is interesting that Scryptguild gives so much BTC/MHs/day - is the data correct?
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May 03, 2014, 01:13:09 PM |
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I think you're looking at the X11 LeaseRig. The different "greens" are a little hard to distinguish on the graph to the left. If you look at the other graphs, you can tell that ScriptGuild is doing about as well as Clever/Waffle.
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May 03, 2014, 04:34:55 PM |
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I think you're looking at the X11 LeaseRig. The different "greens" are a little hard to distinguish on the graph to the left. If you look at the other graphs, you can tell that ScriptGuild is doing about as well as Clever/Waffle.
You're right, these greens were too similar. I changed LeaseRig X11 to a light shade of blue, this should be less confusing. Thanks.
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May 03, 2014, 04:40:39 PM |
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No major changes today. As mentioned above I'll be adding TradeMyBit X11 within the next couple of days and will probably bring back TradeMyBit Scrypt-N as well. I tried to make the 5-day chart more readable by enlarging it, but there is still a lot of overlap there. You can get somewhat better visibility if you use the spreadsheet - you'll be able to select a specific item, highlight it on the chart, and it has popups too: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOAhFX1XRizdaTp71qnYI5pRh9VIZEQ51LHuGUmxri0/pubhtml![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2FhWf6q.jpg&t=665&c=roM9LjxzlhbgfQ)
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May 03, 2014, 07:38:41 PM |
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No major changes today.
Just one thing I realised: X11 hashrate is nicely "translated" to Scrypt equivalent hashrate to make the charts comparable, but maybe it is not that clear to people that X11 uses about 40% less energy too. So, the 0.00301276 at "translated" hashrate seems rather low, but it is still OK when taking into account the less energy it takes to obtain.
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May 03, 2014, 08:56:53 PM |
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No major changes today.
Just one thing I realised: X11 hashrate is nicely "translated" to Scrypt equivalent hashrate to make the charts comparable, but maybe it is not that clear to people that X11 uses about 40% less energy too. So, the 0.00301276 at "translated" hashrate seems rather low, but it is still OK when taking into account the less energy it takes to obtain. That is correct. I have a plan - and even mentioned towards the bottom of OP - to create a comparison of power consumption/efficiency. It's not just about X11 vs Scrypt but also NVIDIA vs AMD and so on. But it gets a bit dicey when it comes to different levels of tuning, so I need to come up with a reasonable method to measure power consumption.
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May 04, 2014, 01:33:57 AM |
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Up to now I've only mined scrypt with GridSeeds. But recently I gained access to a new Mac Pro that has dual D700s. I'll only have this machine for a couple of weeks.
Rather than do what I already know and point these GPUs at a scrypt multi pool, it occurred to me that I now have the opportunity to experiment with scrypt-n.
So if you were me with 444.1Kh/s worth of GPUs for a couple of weeks, where would you point it?
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May 04, 2014, 01:51:40 AM |
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This looked interesting but are you not missing one big thing? The BTC increase in difficulty??? Meaning what your earn today for 100 KH, in 6 months will be 90% less?
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