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Charts have been updated for today. No major changes. Charts have one extra day on them due to a glitch with google spreadsheets that prevented me from moving some rows. This doesn't affect the numbers.
Ouch, my (tmb) x11 port seemed to throw up a duck yesterday :S.. digging in to what happened. Scrypt-N isn't feeling too well either. I didn't see any downtime in my logs.
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Can you guys add CoinKing multipools? I've also used just about every multipool, and have heard rumors CoinKing pays a little better, so I am trying them out. Because at the current state of things, every .0001 btc/mh/day counts.
Do they show total pool hashrate anywhere? I think they show it per algo, but check their website. I was mining X11 coins and it showed my rate, the pools rate, and net total hash. At the time it was on CRY and DRK.
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June 03, 2014, 01:44:18 AM |
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Is it worth adding magicpool.org? Apparently it's a pool of pools, auto-selecting between multi pools.
I'm skeptical that another level of indirection (and more fees) can make much of a difference, especially since there often doesn't seem to be that big a delta between the multipools. But it might be interesting.
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June 03, 2014, 02:25:04 AM |
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question about rented rig?
next time if I rent a rig, shall I rent a rig with more horsepower and less day ( 100+ for 1 or 2 days or less) or less power and more days ( 30-60+ Mh/s for 3 -7 days?
which one is better?
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June 03, 2014, 06:13:52 AM |
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Is it worth adding magicpool.org? Apparently it's a pool of pools, auto-selecting between multi pools.
I'm skeptical that another level of indirection (and more fees) can make much of a difference, especially since there often doesn't seem to be that big a delta between the multipools. But it might be interesting.
The only pool that has somewhat predictable profitability is nicehash, but even that can change quickly as customers add/remove/change orders. I just don't see how magicpool can estimate future profitability of waffle/clever/coinshift, so I have to call BS on this one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 03, 2014, 09:13:06 AM |
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Is it worth adding magicpool.org? Apparently it's a pool of pools, auto-selecting between multi pools.
I'm skeptical that another level of indirection (and more fees) can make much of a difference, especially since there often doesn't seem to be that big a delta between the multipools. But it might be interesting.
The only pool that has somewhat predictable profitability is nicehash, but even that can change quickly as customers add/remove/change orders. I just don't see how magicpool can estimate future profitability of waffle/clever/coinshift, so I have to call BS on this one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They use Suchmoons' graph's to decide where to mine each day for maximum profitability ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 03, 2014, 11:21:24 AM |
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question about rented rig?
next time if I rent a rig, shall I rent a rig with more horsepower and less day ( 100+ for 1 or 2 days or less) or less power and more days ( 30-60+ Mh/s for 3 -7 days?
which one is better?
It depends entirely on what you're trying to do. Technically higher hashrate should be better if you're trying to take advantage of some short-term opportunity but it might be a problem if you're mining a small coin.
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June 03, 2014, 11:27:00 AM |
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Is it worth adding magicpool.org? Apparently it's a pool of pools, auto-selecting between multi pools.
I'm skeptical that another level of indirection (and more fees) can make much of a difference, especially since there often doesn't seem to be that big a delta between the multipools. But it might be interesting.
The only pool that has somewhat predictable profitability is nicehash, but even that can change quickly as customers add/remove/change orders. I just don't see how magicpool can estimate future profitability of waffle/clever/coinshift, so I have to call BS on this one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They use Suchmoons' graph's to decide where to mine each day for maximum profitability ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) And they have a time machine apparently ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Kids these days, with their fancy money-making schemes... I would just buy some old-fashioned stock options if I had a time machine.
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June 03, 2014, 12:32:10 PM |
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question about rented rig?
next time if I rent a rig, shall I rent a rig with more horsepower and less day ( 100+ for 1 or 2 days or less) or less power and more days ( 30-60+ Mh/s for 3 -7 days?
which one is better?
It depends entirely on what you're trying to do. Technically higher hashrate should be better if you're trying to take advantage of some short-term opportunity but it might be a problem if you're mining a small coin. what do u mean by small coin?
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June 03, 2014, 03:05:10 PM |
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Is it worth adding magicpool.org? Apparently it's a pool of pools, auto-selecting between multi pools.
I'm skeptical that another level of indirection (and more fees) can make much of a difference, especially since there often doesn't seem to be that big a delta between the multipools. But it might be interesting.
The only pool that has somewhat predictable profitability is nicehash, but even that can change quickly as customers add/remove/change orders. I just don't see how magicpool can estimate future profitability of waffle/clever/coinshift, so I have to call BS on this one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They use Suchmoons' graph's to decide where to mine each day for maximum profitability ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) And they have a time machine apparently ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Kids these days, with their fancy money-making schemes... I would just buy some old-fashioned stock options if I had a time machine. Yeah, in retrospect I guess there's no way for a pool of multi pools to effectively use short term statistics to make reasonable returns. Multipools are all about averages anyway. The best they could do would kind of be an "index fund" of script multi pools. For grins I looked at their stats and the average over the past 10 days was 0.00251. You'd get the same result by just sticking with CM for the same period. I guess people will try anything as scrypt mining nose dives into 0.001 territory...
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June 03, 2014, 03:48:46 PM |
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question about rented rig?
next time if I rent a rig, shall I rent a rig with more horsepower and less day ( 100+ for 1 or 2 days or less) or less power and more days ( 30-60+ Mh/s for 3 -7 days?
which one is better?
It depends entirely on what you're trying to do. Technically higher hashrate should be better if you're trying to take advantage of some short-term opportunity but it might be a problem if you're mining a small coin. what do u mean by small coin? A coin that has low difficulty and/or low network hashrate. If you bring a lot of hashrate it could cause issues, depending on how the coin is set up - some have difficulty adjustment every block etc. It's not a problem if you are mining in a large pool.
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June 03, 2014, 04:53:53 PM |
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Charts have been updated for today. No major changes.
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hi everyone.
So this is a thread that lets you know what multipool is the most profitable etm right? Then which is pool is that at this (when you are reading this) moment?
Also what is the current most efficient miningsoftware, i'm still using gui-miner 0.05, i don't know if it can handle the newer algorithms. Even if it can its probably not very efficient since there are optimized kernels out. So what is the current best allround miner software?
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June 03, 2014, 05:00:12 PM |
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hi everyone.
So this is a thread that lets you know what multipool is the most profitable etm right? Then which is pool is that at this (when you are reading this) moment?
Also what is the current most efficient miningsoftware, i'm still using gui-miner 0.05, i don't know if it can handle the newer algorithms. Even if it can its probably not very efficient since there are optimized kernels out. So what is the current best allround miner software?
Let's start with your hardware. What are you using, I'm assuming GPU(s)? AMD, NVIDIA?
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June 03, 2014, 06:35:04 PM |
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You should start putting Trademybit X13 on there... The X13 coins are quite regularly on top of the tmb profitability charts nowadays. EDIT: aaah ignore me, I see you're already on it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 03, 2014, 06:54:55 PM |
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You should start putting Trademybit X13 on there... The X13 coins are quite regularly on top of the tmb profitability charts nowadays. EDIT: aaah ignore me, I see you're already on it ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes, it's in the spreadsheet, starting to collect some numbers. Another promising option I'm looking into is this: https://www.nicehash.com/multialgo/I'm not a big fan of how they implemented it (fixed ratios instead of configurable) but it's a good start.
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Just installed the new AMD 14.6 driver for a modest 10-15% boost on X11(darkcoin) without changing anything else at all. Some people were reporting up to 80% more Hash on some cards depending on the algorithm so I thought I'd give it a try!!! Seems you can tweak setting a little more as well, so I may be able to improve more with some other tweaking. Warning: Keep an eye on your temperatures while tweaking with this driver! This might muck up your graphs a little ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Just installed the new AMD 14.6 driver for a modest 10-15% boost on X11(darkcoin) without changing anything else at all. Some people were reporting up to 80% more Hash on some cards depending on the algorithm so I thought I'd give it a try!!! Seems you can tweak setting a little more as well, so I may be able to improve more with some other tweaking. Warning: Keep an eye on your temperatures while tweaking with this driver! This might muck up your graphs a little ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I am on 14.4 and 13.12 depending on what rig, but I have heard EXACTLY the opposite. I have heard 14.6 gives 10-15% lower hashrates, and people are going back to previous versions. You may have just got higher hashrates because you did a proper clean uninstall and re-install.
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Just installed the new AMD 14.6 driver for a modest 10-15% boost on X11(darkcoin) without changing anything else at all. Some people were reporting up to 80% more Hash on some cards depending on the algorithm so I thought I'd give it a try!!! Seems you can tweak setting a little more as well, so I may be able to improve more with some other tweaking. Warning: Keep an eye on your temperatures while tweaking with this driver! This might muck up your graphs a little ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I am on 14.4 and 13.12 depending on what rig, but I have heard EXACTLY the opposite. I have heard 14.6 gives 10-15% lower hashrates, and people are going back to previous versions. You may have just got higher hashrates because you did a proper clean uninstall and re-install. Is that for Scrypt or others? I tried scrypt and I had a slight decrease in hash on the one coin I tried. I don't bother with scrypt much anymore, power is expensive and scrypt is double the rest. I think the 80% increases were for groestlcoin. I did a clean install last time, I just wacked this one over the top. I haven't had a problem in years just wacking the new drivers over the top with AMD, they seem to have a good uninstall>reinstall system these days so its not really over the top of the last, your just trusting AMD installer to do a better job then it used to, and I believe it does. I'm pretty lazy tho, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!
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Hi suchmoon,
Earlier on this thread you dropped the ghash.io multi pool due to a combination of poor profitability and technical difficulties with the pool. Do you think that it's worth trying them out again?
It would be nice to have some more scrypt choices for us poor schlubs that are stuck with ASICs.
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