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AMD has a perfect opportunity to pair or outperform Nvidia - this launch is very important and they need to win market share with gamers. Nvidia clearly was pressed with this launch; using samsung, large tdp, paper launch (basically). RDNA2 will very likely be power efficient...AMD is going to have their hands full balancing miners and gamers
I SEE it much the same as you do. Nvidia rtx 3000 series was a ghost launch From what I've been reading the AMD launch going to be similar, apparently not much stock. That being said though I sent back my 5700XT's I just bought, going to wait and see how the next waves perform.
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October 23, 2020, 05:59:22 PM |
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AMD has a perfect opportunity to pair or outperform Nvidia - this launch is very important and they need to win market share with gamers. Nvidia clearly was pressed with this launch; using samsung, large tdp, paper launch (basically). RDNA2 will very likely be power efficient...AMD is going to have their hands full balancing miners and gamers
I SEE it much the same as you do. Nvidia rtx 3000 series was a ghost launch From what I've been reading the AMD launch going to be similar, apparently not much stock. That being said though I sent back my 5700XT's I just bought, going to wait and see how the next waves perform. I don't think it's going to be that bad, as AMD is also launching their CPU lines. With that being said, i don't think the GPU in stock won't make it til the next day, but won't be sold out before doors open... hopefully... finger's crossed I'll be in line. I think the AMD 6XXX series will still be easier to get hands on than the NV30XX series.
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October 23, 2020, 07:07:55 PM |
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Well I am still near 40-50 usd a day.
I would buy 1 3080 and 1 6700. if I could find them.
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October 24, 2020, 01:48:32 AM |
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AMD has a perfect opportunity to pair or outperform Nvidia - this launch is very important and they need to win market share with gamers. Nvidia clearly was pressed with this launch; using samsung, large tdp, paper launch (basically). RDNA2 will very likely be power efficient...AMD is going to have their hands full balancing miners and gamers
that is why i didn't recommend getting 5700xt, if the new amd cards pair with 3080 performance you'll have old tech cards LOL.
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October 24, 2020, 02:48:16 AM |
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AMD has a perfect opportunity to pair or outperform Nvidia - this launch is very important and they need to win market share with gamers. Nvidia clearly was pressed with this launch; using samsung, large tdp, paper launch (basically). RDNA2 will very likely be power efficient...AMD is going to have their hands full balancing miners and gamers
that is why i didn't recommend getting 5700xt, if the new amd cards pair with 3080 performance you'll have old tech cards LOL. I still see 2x 5700xt as a better choice then 1x 3080 but marginally. Basically I can find and buy 5700xt for 360usd plus tax. If I could get the blower style 3080 in a few days I could pay 650 plus tax. as i can get ten percent off newegg. but the problem is I cant get those 3080s anyplace. Since i am making 1 dollar or so profit on the 5700xt and have mined them for over sixty days. many days i made 2 dollars on them. so 70 x 1.50 is 105 . so if i paid 385-105= 270 vs zero earned or spent since no 3080 to buy. At current rate my cards will pay off in jan or feb. the 3000 series clearly is not more efficient the 3000 series would be cheaper per mh if I could have purchased them. so for now mine with what i got.
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October 24, 2020, 05:20:21 AM |
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AMD has a perfect opportunity to pair or outperform Nvidia - this launch is very important and they need to win market share with gamers. Nvidia clearly was pressed with this launch; using samsung, large tdp, paper launch (basically). RDNA2 will very likely be power efficient...AMD is going to have their hands full balancing miners and gamers
that is why i didn't recommend getting 5700xt, if the new amd cards pair with 3080 performance you'll have old tech cards LOL. I still see 2x 5700xt as a better choice then 1x 3080 but marginally. Basically I can find and buy 5700xt for 360usd plus tax. If I could get the blower style 3080 in a few days I could pay 650 plus tax. as i can get ten percent off newegg. but the problem is I cant get those 3080s anyplace. Since i am making 1 dollar or so profit on the 5700xt and have mined them for over sixty days. many days i made 2 dollars on them. so 70 x 1.50 is 105 . so if i paid 385-105= 270 vs zero earned or spent since no 3080 to buy. At current rate my cards will pay off in jan or feb. the 3000 series clearly is not more efficient the 3000 series would be cheaper per mh if I could have purchased them. so for now mine with what i got. i mean 5700xt vs 6800xt, it was around a month ago when i say that..even if you can say 2x 5700xt is better than 1x 3080. 6800xt is just around 1 month away...now what if 6800xt is at par with 3080 or with negligible inferiority? there is no problem if you can easily sell and replace 5700xt but if not...well..you cannot win all the months in earning but you can prepare for more months or years to come
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October 24, 2020, 07:52:54 AM |
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AMD has a perfect opportunity to pair or outperform Nvidia - this launch is very important and they need to win market share with gamers. Nvidia clearly was pressed with this launch; using samsung, large tdp, paper launch (basically). RDNA2 will very likely be power efficient...AMD is going to have their hands full balancing miners and gamers
that is why i didn't recommend getting 5700xt, if the new amd cards pair with 3080 performance you'll have old tech cards LOL. I still see 2x 5700xt as a better choice then 1x 3080 but marginally. Basically I can find and buy 5700xt for 360usd plus tax. If I could get the blower style 3080 in a few days I could pay 650 plus tax. as i can get ten percent off newegg. but the problem is I cant get those 3080s anyplace. Since i am making 1 dollar or so profit on the 5700xt and have mined them for over sixty days. many days i made 2 dollars on them. so 70 x 1.50 is 105 . so if i paid 385-105= 270 vs zero earned or spent since no 3080 to buy. At current rate my cards will pay off in jan or feb. the 3000 series clearly is not more efficient the 3000 series would be cheaper per mh if I could have purchased them. so for now mine with what i got. i mean 5700xt vs 6800xt, it was around a month ago when i say that..even if you can say 2x 5700xt is better than 1x 3080. 6800xt is just around 1 month away...now what if 6800xt is at par with 3080 or with negligible inferiority? there is no problem if you can easily sell and replace 5700xt but if not...well..you cannot win all the months in earning but you can prepare for more months or years to come 6800xt is only a month away for launch. Then the cards needs to be shipped to you (except local stores like Microcenter which are a rarity these days). Then you have to hope you have stable drivers and that the mining software will mine on the card. Then you need to wait another month to 3 months for BIOS tweaks and optimal settings to be flushed out. The virus might temper holiday shopping demand, but probably not for video cards.
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October 24, 2020, 12:23:04 PM |
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While we wait for the 6800xt my 5700xt are paying off about 1 dollar a day.
my July ones say July 15 to oct 24 = 100 days. 100 x 1.50 = 150 Aug ones say Aug 15 to Oct 24 = 69 days. 69 x 1.50 =. 103.50 Sep ones say Sept 15 to Oct 24 = 38 days 38 x 1.25 =. 47.50 Oct one say Oct 3 to Oct 24 = 21 days 21 x 1 = 21
say they were 375 each after tax
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July 375-150 = 225. I know if I listed these at 300 they would sell and I would profit around 300-225 = 75- 20 to ship so 55 bucks Aug. 375 -103.50 = 271.50 these would be 300-271.50= 28.50-20 to ship so 8.50 bucks
no big navi for 30 to 50 days
so my july card. improves to 105 dollar profit my aug card improves to 58.50 profit
I don't have much downside unless the big navi is way way way better then the 5700xt
say 90mh at 150 watts and costs 400 and can be found easy peasy.
How often do you find that much improvement?
I earned back 132 since weds 3 days if it holds that is 1320 in 30 days ----------- this is key sentence
So far I paid off 2100 usd I have .16 btc I am hodling Am I exposed yes a bit
I need to make at least 40 a day for 100 days and coins hold at 13000. Then I am fully in black.
My power is cheap so not much issue on profits of some kind
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October 24, 2020, 01:47:19 PM |
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Same here, while wait to new cards, my 5700 and even my 1660 super are doing very good profits I'm still looking for a 3080, but it looks like we'll have AMD cards to buy before any nvidia For us living outside US is even harder to get cards on launch, the first ones came by air and costs more With all this situation about coronavirus and lack of supply, mining giving some profits again, people are in homes and building PCs, it's almost impossible to get one and at a decent price, better use our hardware we already have If big navi do 90mh at 150 watts would be awesome, but we can still mine with our cards
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October 24, 2020, 02:14:32 PM |
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Same here, while wait to new cards, my 5700 and even my 1660 super are doing very good profits I'm still looking for a 3080, but it looks like we'll have AMD cards to buy before any nvidia For us living outside US is even harder to get cards on launch, the first ones came by air and costs more With all this situation about coronavirus and lack of supply, mining giving some profits again, people are in homes and building PCs, it's almost impossible to get one and at a decent price, better use our hardware we already have If big navi do 90mh at 150 watts would be awesome, but we can still mine with our cards I have reached the point of almost no more mobo space. but i do have room for Eight or nine cards I have never seen a good launch 🚀 from amd or nvidia as both simply don’t hand out a lot of cards. I have 20 sites to find nvidia 3000 cards zero have had a card for me. i am sure the new amd will be the same. Most likely they won’t be available,but if i can get either blower style rx 6800xt or gtx 3080 I will get a few.
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October 24, 2020, 02:50:21 PM |
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The new release of big Navi will be very interesting.
Does anybody know of a board that will support the new Ryzen CPUs and has enough slots for at least 6 GPUs? Would be a nice thing to build a rig that can mine Monero on CPU and other coins on GPU very efficiently.
I am still using my Polaris rigs (unfortunately 60% 8GB cards) and will mine till it is not feasible anymore. I got most 4GB cards for like $50 in bulk when mining was super unprofitable for most - so even if I can sell them for the same price or slightly less at the end of the year - they were basically free. I have free electricity but will loose that some time early next year - so then I will have to get rid of all inefficient cards anyway. I hope for a run in crypto in the next couple of months and then selling even 4GB cards will be easier (hopefully), since miners will buy out all other cards and gamers, that a re looking for a cheap gaming card, will be willing to buy a 4GB Polaris.
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October 24, 2020, 03:42:49 PM |
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The new release of big Navi will be very interesting.
Does anybody know of a board that will support the new Ryzen CPUs and has enough slots for at least 6 GPUs? Would be a nice thing to build a rig that can mine Monero on CPU and other coins on GPU very efficiently.
I am still using my Polaris rigs (unfortunately 60% 8GB cards) and will mine till it is not feasible anymore. I got most 4GB cards for like $50 in bulk when mining was super unprofitable for most - so even if I can sell them for the same price or slightly less at the end of the year - they were basically free. I have free electricity but will loose that some time early next year - so then I will have to get rid of all inefficient cards anyway. I hope for a run in crypto in the next couple of months and then selling even 4GB cards will be easier (hopefully), since miners will buy out all other cards and gamers, that a re looking for a cheap gaming card, will be willing to buy a 4GB Polaris.
no cant find it. i have been able to do four cards on threadripper boards. but on a lot of different 3900 x570 boards three cards are shaky
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October 24, 2020, 04:09:09 PM |
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3080 blower cards won't be out till next year. The EVGA que system is great if you happened to sign up early for notifications. That process is so smooth after trying to battle bots and 1,000's of other buyers on other sites lol.
Hate to say it but if you get a 3080 at msrp right now the best thing to do profit wise is resell it. Can clear $375-425 after fees and shipping in a few hours with a card in hand.
Rumor is that AMD may have 1 of the new cards for sale on the 28th after the announcement.
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you all forget that miners who are waiting for the new cards already own old cards....so comparing your "profit computation" of 5700xt vs "zero" is not applicable.
the argument that you get profit now is for the ones who don't have any card yet...the ones with old cards vs 5700xt is very minimal--so they can wait hehe.
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I set up nvidia-snatcher and have it send a notification to my discord channel when a 3080 is in stock under a certain price. Its pretty neat and kinda easy to do, i encourage you guys to do the same if you are looking for a 3080. it opens up the store add to cart page right away. You can select the stores you want too. a lot of people have this installed so F5 is now obsolete
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looking at hash rate charts for eth we have gone up up and away since jan 2020 now we are close to 277th in hash if a 4gb card is doing 25mh then 40 of them do 1gh and 40,000 of them do 1th and 4,000,000 of them do 100th I can be convince there are that many 4gb cards mining as I type. so by feb 1 they should be greatly reduced maybe as much as 50th will drop out . 50th is 50,000gh is 50,000,000mh 50,000,000 mh is going to fall off. so 100,000 5700xt add only 5,000,000 mh or 5th 100,000 5600xt add only 4,000,000 mh or 4th 100,000 3080 add only 8.500,000 mh or 8.5th I am think eth diff will not go past 300th in like 6 or 7 months. so we could have stable earnings until spring. yeah maybe 1.10 for 50mh card and take up to 30 cents power cost so 80 cents a card profit on the rx 5700xt looks to be easy enough to stay above for most miners.
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Well BTC is sitting at $13k right now and ETH is sitting around $410. BTC is at roughly 13/20 it's all-time-high and ETH is 410/1432. If ETH moves to parity ATH as BTC then it could double, but Vitalik is doing his best to make sure that nobody wants to mine ETH. What we need now is a good reward drop right guys? I wish I got more 5700XT when they were near $350. All the decent ones I see on Newegg are at or near $400. I wonder if AMD did actually cut manufacture of the 5700XT to pump out 6800XT.
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October 26, 2020, 03:47:12 PM |
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Prices have moved up and/or the cheaper stock is sold out, this happened before the move up in BTC value...I've heard about memory shortages, etc.
You would think that when the 3070,80,90 are more available that it will push general prices down, but who knows...
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Yeah funny choice for me. Do I buy another card. even the 5500xt is decent as they are cheap and don't use power.
I have 95 usd to spend on amazon.
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Yeah funny choice for me. Do I buy another card. even the 5500xt is decent as they are cheap and don't use power.
I have 95 usd to spend on amazon.
I'm looking for a 5600xt, I saw BBT video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MghxzsrDFJ4&t=80sDoing 38.7mh @ 75w or 43.3mh @ 85w It's awesome, maybe you can grab one, I don't know about availability, but I think it's easy to get one
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