SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper

[LevyMi]

I am currently making a research paper. Through linguistic analysis, I am trying to see who is likely to be the autor of all the Satoshi posts on this forum. And funnily enough, CSW just happens to be the farthest from Satoshi out of all of my control samples :D

Absolutely zero surprise here, do you have a link to the paper?

I haven't finished it yet, it'll be my diploma thesis next year. But I'll be sure to share it here then :D just not sure how much of it will be available in English, I might have to translate it then. If I get any interesting findings, it might be worth it to do that.

On that note I have a question for all of you who've been following this thread. Does anyone here have access to the Discord server where the screenshots of CSW's messages come from? I will need a pretty big sample of texts written by him -- I've been using his website's blog for now but more sources would be a great help.

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[Hueristic]

I am currently making a research paper. Through linguistic analysis, I am trying to see who is likely to be the autor of all the Satoshi posts on this forum. And funnily enough, CSW just happens to be the farthest from Satoshi out of all of my control samples

Absolutely zero surprise here, do you have a link to the paper?

I haven't finished it yet, it'll be my diploma thesis next year. But I'll be sure to share it here then just not sure how much of it will be available in English, I might have to translate it then. If I get any interesting findings, it might be worth it to do that.

On that note I have a question for all of you who've been following this thread. Does anyone here have access to the Discord server where the screenshots of CSW's messages come from? I will need a pretty big sample of texts written by him -- I've been using his website's blog for now but more sources would be a great help.

Careful that the shillboy scammers don't try to poison your dataset.

[nutildah]

I haven't finished it yet, it'll be my diploma thesis next year. But I'll be sure to share it here then just not sure how much of it will be available in English, I might have to translate it then. If I get any interesting findings, it might be worth it to do that.

On that note I have a question for all of you who've been following this thread. Does anyone here have access to the Discord server where the screenshots of CSW's messages come from? I will need a pretty big sample of texts written by him -- I've been using his website's blog for now but more sources would be a great help.

Careful that the shillboy scammers don't try to poison your dataset.

Haha... well I certainly don't have access to that but I often wonder where exactly the leaks come from. I suspect they are purposefully leaked because Craig thinks his messages paint him in a good light. And maybe to a very select audience they do. Everyone else just kind of laughs at them and they make great Twitter fodder.

I would definitely be interested in seeing a summary of your results, to see who you chose for comparison, and your methodology behind text inclusion / characterization.

[LevyMi]

Fair enough, entertaining it is :D I'm glad I found CSW while doing my search for people to compare, spicing things up with some memes haha. I will make sure to get a summary in English to share on this threat.

[nutildah]

Some news lately in the court case against our old friend Craiggy Boy.

On the heels of the defense's motion to introduce electronic devices as evidence (supposedly these devices contain proof that exonerates Craig from wrongdoing but are encrypted and wiped), the prosecution plaintiffs filed a brief to "support the demonstrative they intend to use" in the trial's opening, which will be a jury trial.

The opening of the brief:

Plaintiffs plan to use a single demonstrative exhibit in their opening statement. This demonstrative is a basic timeline of events composed exclusively of Defendant’s own statements.

The entries are all either (i) emails from Defendant that were produced by Defendant in discovery, or (ii) are clear admissions from Defendant (e.g., audio recordings, transcripts, or deposition testimony about Defendant’s statements).

Despite these statements’ apparent admissibility, Defendant originally asked this Court to exclude the entire demonstrative because he “objected” to the admission of his own statements into evidence.

That last part is particularly compelling. I wonder what excuse he would have for objecting to his own thoughts. Maybe his thoughts were controlled by Blockstream radio rays at the time, but more likely its simply a matter of his Asperger's, which is where he gets his profound genius from after all.

Among the things Craig does not want the defense to mention are statements he made to the Australian Tax Office, such as:

• “A long-term friend of mine, Dave Kleiman and I, started that so that we could start building an exchange platform,…Dave and I had been friends and sort of partners that way for a long time.”

• “There was a trust set up to put a number of bitcoin that Dave was mining and everything like that into,” which was used as a “funding mechanism . . . [f]or research . . .”

• “When we were starting originally, we looked at a bitcoin value of probably $20 million. By the time we started looking at actually capitalising that and around Dave’s death, that had gone up to, I think, $100 million.”

All the other quotables Craig is objecting to have to do with the partnership, which I could care less about because its all fake. But Dave mining Bitcoin and them having only "$100 million" in Bitcoin (telling tall tales even back then) doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Even back in 2013 the market cap was already over $1 billion, and Satoshi's share of mined coins was a much greater %. Maybe Craig will say he mined Bitcoin on the side as cover to distance himself from being a S.N. suspect.

Amazingly the charade continues. At the rate that things are going, the price of BSV will have wound down to close to zero by the time this thing wraps up, maybe around the year 2025.

The next hearing is on Oct. 14th.

[JayJuanGee]

the prosecution plaintiffs filed a brief to "support the demonstrative they intend to use" in the trial's opening, which will be a jury trial.

FTFY

Thanks for the update and the description of what is going on.

Just want to note that you may have made a Freudian slip, since there is no prosecution in this case.

There are plaintiffs and defendants because this is a civil case.

If this were a criminal case, there would be a prosecutor, and sure many of us wish to see a prosecutor to come to some case in which CSW et al seem to be abusing the process and lying to the court.... Maybe in the future?  We will see.

[nutildah]

Some more documents uploaded this week. One is a timeline of all the times Craig referred to Dave as his "partner" (boring), and another is why Craig's subpoena for Kleiman's "encrypted and wiped" devices is unenforceable. Kind of interesting.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/kleiman-v-wright/?page=5

First, the subpoena imposes an undue burden on Plaintiff Ira Kleiman. Wright has publicly stated on several occasions that the Devices contain billions of dollars in bitcoin. Although Wright is wrong (lol), he is a high-profile and infamous figure in the cryptocurrency space. Ira should not be compelled to face the risks that come with transporting and possessing what people may (wrongly) believe contain the keys to $55 billion in bitcoin—especially where (i) the end game is to merely permit Wright to present irrelevant evidence to the jury and where (ii) that same end can be accomplished through exemplars and/or images of the Devices.

Second, Defendant gives away the game in the first two sentences of his motion. In short, after 24 months of discovery, over 225,000 documents exchanged, and 22 fact depositions taken, Defendant tacitly concedes that he has found no actual evidence that there is billions of dollars of bitcoin sitting on a bunch of hard drives and thumb drives found in Dave’s home after his death (Defendant attempts to conceal this admission behind his bold, conclusory declarations that these devices are critical to his defense).

Then later in the argument:

Wright, an infamous and high-profile figure in the cryptocurrency community, has, in this high-profile and closely watched case, taken the public position that the Devices contain billions of dollars’ worth of bitcoin. Plaintiffs dispute that unsupported rank speculation. That said, given the publicity surrounding the trial, and the sheer amount of money Wright claims is contained on the Devices, Mr. Kleiman is sincerely and justifiably concerned that he faces significant risks of being robbed, or worse, in transporting the Devices.

...If Wright wants to take the position that, based on his personal knowledge, David Kleiman stored the private keys to the bitcoin they jointly mined on the Devices, he is welcome to do so. But until he does, there is no evidence that the Devices contain private keys, Wright’s theory of relevance is wholly speculative, and the Devices are inadmissible.

The rest of the documents mainly have to do with the prosecutor's plaintiff's rationale as to why Craig's transcripts from ATO hearings should be admissable in court.

Here's an interesting excerpt:

In 2014, the ATO was investigating Defendant’s companies to determine whether those entities had properly sought certain tax benefits. That investigation concerned, among other things, whether Defendant’s companies were entitled to millions of dollars in tax benefits in connection with their “acquisition” of intellectual property from W&K. Id. Defendant claimed that (1) he had paid millions of dollars in taxes as a result of his acquisition of W&K’s intellectual property, and (2) he and his companies were entitled to a tax refund for that amount. The relevant acquisition purportedly occurred when Defendant secured “Consent Judgments” against W&K in Australian court—the same consent judgments that Plaintiffs allege Defendant used to misappropriate their intellectual property assets. Thus, the ATO’s investigation concerned the validity of one of the same transactions that Plaintiffs challenge here.

...Defendant did not prevail in his dispute with the ATO... Indeed, not only did the ATO find that Defendant was not entitled to the tax benefits that he had claimed in connection with his “acquisition” of W&K’s intellectual property... but the ATO also imposed a $1.9 million penalty on Defendant for making “false or misleading statements” to the Australian government.

So it seems BSV is just a continuation of Craig's specialty of employment: investing massive amounts of time, thought and energy into a product never designed to work in the first place. He's obviously a smart fellow in some ways, probably could have made a pretty decent shitcoin of his own without having to attach the name of Bitcoin to it.

Oh and this is Craig giving his closing remarks at the Bitcoin SV conference, to a thrilled crowd of believers.



After crashing to fresh lows against BTC shortly thereafter, the price of BSV enjoyed a nice 17% pump today.

Short 'em if you got 'em.

[Iamtutut]

ShitshowSV delisted from another exchange:
https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1446517333791494145

bUt iT hAs AlrEadY WoN

[Iamtutut]

Craig Wright AKA Forgetoshi caught forging again, exhibit from the coming Kleiman case:

https://twitter.com/hascendp6/status/1446266504002015236

[dkbit98]

BSV Scammers are now claiming some Pyrrhic victory, CSW has to pay $100 million fine and he still didn't prove he is Satoshi and signed his keys.
Member Bitcoin SV is so retarded and mentally ill that he is going in history and deleting many posts from his self moderated topic.
Deleted stats (going up all he time): 979 posts by 43 users with 89 merit deleted  

EDIT: 1284 posts by 60 users with 163 merit deleted (and still going up...)

[bitcoinPsycho]

BSV Scammers are now claiming some Pyrrhic victory, CSW has to pay $100 million fine and he still didn't prove he is Satoshi and signed his keys.
Member Bitcoin SV is so retarded and mentally ill that he is going in history and deleting many posts from his self moderated topic.
Deleted stats (going up all he time): 979 posts by 43 users with 89 merit deleted 

Lol I've had 55 deleted posts so far. Pathetic


https://decrypt.co/87873/craig-wright-didnt-win-anything

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[Hueristic]

BSV Scammers are now claiming some Pyrrhic victory, CSW has to pay $100 million fine and he still didn't prove he is Satoshi and signed his keys.
Member Bitcoin SV is so retarded and mentally ill that he is going in history and deleting many posts from his self moderated topic.
Deleted stats (going up all he time): 979 posts by 43 users with 89 merit deleted  

Lol I've had 55 deleted posts so far. Pathetic

21 from me.

[dkbit98]

Post deletion from bsv topic continues and it's now 1529 posts by 96 users with 317 merit deleted! 

Interesting article to read coming from Decrpyt named Craig Wright Didn’t 'Win' Anything (Except a lot of undeserved attention).
https://decrypt.co/87873/craig-wright-didnt-win-anything

[bitcoinPsycho]

Post deletion from bsv topic continues and it's now 1529 posts by 96 users with 317 merit deleted! 

Interesting article to read coming from Decrpyt named Craig Wright Didn’t 'Win' Anything (Except a lot of undeserved attention).
https://decrypt.co/87873/craig-wright-didnt-win-anything

So  .... 1529 posts critical of bsv and  96 people under
censorship

[dkbit98]

So  .... 1529 posts critical of bsv and  96 people under
censorship

No wonder when you see that his idol and master is notorious Klaus Schwab from world economic forum cult, and Bitcoin SV appears to be his little slave  

Meanwhile everyone can read uncensored bsv topic on ninjastic.space:
https://ninjastic.space/topic/4985868

[gembitz]

Post deletion from bsv topic continues and it's now 1529 posts by 96 users with 317 merit deleted! 

Interesting article to read coming from Decrpyt named Craig Wright Didn’t 'Win' Anything (Except a lot of undeserved attention).
https://decrypt.co/87873/craig-wright-didnt-win-anything

So  .... 1529 posts critical of bsv and  96 people under
censorship

ONLY SCAMMERS REMOVE POSTS LIKE THAT REEEEEE

[gembitz]

So  .... 1529 posts critical of bsv and  96 people under
censorship

No wonder when you see that his idol and master is notorious Klaus Schwab from world economic forum cult, and Bitcoin SV appears to be his little slave  

Meanwhile everyone can read uncensored bsv topic on ninjastic.space:
https://ninjastic.space/topic/4985868

BSV IS A WAY FOR CRAIG WRIGHT TO PAY BAIL? LAWYER PLS

[JayJuanGee]

So  .... 1529 posts critical of bsv and  96 people under
censorship

No wonder when you see that his idol and master is notorious Klaus Schwab from world economic forum cult, and Bitcoin SV appears to be his little slave  

Meanwhile everyone can read uncensored bsv topic on ninjastic.space:
https://ninjastic.space/topic/4985868

This here forum has its own unmoderated threads regarding bcash SV as well...   I posted in one such thread, yesterday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216304.0

[gembitz]

I am currently making a research paper. Through linguistic analysis, I am trying to see who is likely to be the autor of all the Satoshi posts on this forum. And funnily enough, CSW just happens to be the farthest from Satoshi out of all of my control samples

satoshi ? ===> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup

[cryptodevil]

BSV IS A WAY FOR CRAIG WRIGHT TO PAY BAIL? LAWYER PLS

Actually, Craig tried arguing that the intended 'recovery' of 'his' coins from the BitcoincashSV chain would be sufficient for him to prove he has enough assets to cover a potential loss in the COPA case, but that was rejected as the Master Clark pointed out that such an action could only properly be used if he was able to verify ownership of those coins independently of the private keys. Something we know he cannot do because all his "I am Satoshi" supposed proof was exposed as mere fakes and forgeries during the Kleiman case.

Thing is, we know that nChain is in majority control of the BSV network so they could potentially just force it through, but it is good to see that the legal process has already pointed out that it would not be proper for them to do so without there being suitable proof that the person trying to 'recover' said coins actually owns them. This is what is going to fuck Craig up in the coming cases. Where the Kleiman action was a ridiculous sham where neither side contested his "I am Satoshi" claim because it suited their purposes, neither Hodlonaut nor COPA cases are based on that same premise and Craig's claim to be Satoshi has even been raised as a particular reason for why a number of damning pieces of evidence from the Kleiman case were accepted for the COPA case, "In my judgement, these questions are exactly the kind of debate which will need to be had in order to test the defendant’s claim that he is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto.".

So not only does Craig have to come up with a not-insignificant security deposit for the COPA case, he will also have to explain away his forgeries AND proffer up actual proof that he is Satoshi, something he has utterly failed to do and, in fact, something which directly led to him fleeing Australia when he repeatedly failed to do so for the ATO which, had he simply performed a legitimate signing or moved a coin, would have exonerated him over the multi-million-dollar cash rebate fraud he is likely to end up facing extradition over in the next few years.

(And this is ignoring his NSW SC fraudulent cases where he lied in court, filed fake valuations and forged signatures on backdated contracts, made false police reports to the UK police over a hack for which there is no evidence it ever happened and where he lied about ADT UK's data centre having an outage and losing the footage of the 'pineapple' being planted, plus a litany of 'minor' frauds like filing fake backdated company appointments for a dead guy etc.)

All in, Craig Wright is finally going to see his multi-year frauds catch up with him and it will be glorious.