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Author Topic: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper  (Read 25801 times)
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October 22, 2019, 05:10:47 PM
Last edit: October 22, 2019, 05:47:12 PM by BitcoinFX
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The creator of bitcoin does not have backups? .. hehehe... at this point, I think we're just trolling the troll or something like that.

The real Satoshi is alive and well, having cashed out his second generation coins that he mined, leaving the original first reward era mined coins (before the first block halving) untouched all the way to the genesis block. Or not. No one knows.

"trolling the troll"  Cheesy

You have clearly done a lot of research into this topic @Dabs ... ?

...

I think imma head off to crypto twitter soon enough.

Roll some BSV heads, metaphorically speaking, of course.

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October 22, 2019, 06:38:07 PM
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The creator of bitcoin does not have backups? .. hehehe... at this point, I think we're just trolling the troll or something like that.

The real Satoshi is alive and well, having cashed out his second generation coins that he mined, leaving the original first reward era mined coins (before the first block halving) untouched all the way to the genesis block. Or not. No one knows.

"trolling the troll"  Cheesy

You have clearly done a lot of research into this topic @Dabs ... ?

...

I think imma head off to crypto twitter soon enough.

Roll some BSV heads, metaphorically speaking, of course.

Grin

I got blocked by most of them after hitting them with hard evidence that Craig is a fraud. They can't seem to handle logic.

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October 22, 2019, 06:43:16 PM
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No.. no research at all, just something I would have done had I been the creator. It's not that much harder to continue mining well into the early GPU stages. Would have also moved a few coins after the first half million mined.

Satoshi clearly did a lot of thinking before launching the coin. It would not be inconceivable that he had a plan to cash out some of it with a way to distract the rest of the world, knowing the blockchain would record everything and the first several hundred or thousand blocks being watched forever.

So he sacrifices a million coins, ... keeps maybe 100k. Or 10k. Or even just a thousand. Whatever position he was in prior to releasing Bitcoin, he already had access to some computing power, servers ... probably was already living comfortably.

He created a coin, a store of value, a medium of exchange, a unit of account, a complete monetary system, "out of thin air" = not really, but only the first of its kind would succeed in this. So a couple million dollars worth would be more than enough to fund the rest of his life.

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October 22, 2019, 06:49:20 PM
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It's not hard to check if any of Satoshi's forked coins have moved by using a website like http://www.findmycoins.ninja.
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But we only know about the first million. How about the rest? Those coins we'd never know. We don't even know if he mined anything after the first million, we are just speculating that he probably did because he could have. And I seriously doubt he would do anything with the forked coins; he didn't even bother to touch the orignal.

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We'll never know. All we know for sure is that it isn't Craig.
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We'll never know. All we know for sure is that it isn't Craig.
I'm as much a disbeliever in Craig as any one is able to pragmatically construct their balance of probabilities.

As far as most should be concerned, CSW is not satoshi.
If you want to be exact, CSW is almost certainly not satoshi. There is a chance CSW is a master troll, perhaps even a master baiter. Wink

In a useful system of beliefs, we have reality and we have fiction: true and false. Something is true if it is not false, and vice versa. The determination of which category is defined purely by the rules of which the system operates, be they axioms or derived thereof.

To further designate truthfulness, there is a concept called 'burden of proof'. Some may choose to use the null hypothesis to exemplify a similar point.

We will begin with our baseline point:
P1 - An individual claiming that they are satoshi without evidence is not satoshi.

If P1 is not true, then any individual claiming they are satoshi is satoshi. This is an undesirable outcome, thus P1 is true. If you wish to continue with P1 as false, then allow me to offer an alternative to the next point: P2 - I am satoshi. This presents a burden of proof. After all, believing others' words as if they were reality would be a quick path to doom.

P2 - A message signed with satoshi's keys verifies ownership of the keys and satoshi's cryptographic identity.

P3 - Craig Steven Wright has not signed a message with any of satoshi's keys, Bitcoin-based or not.

P4 - Craig Steven Wright has faked a signed message, claiming to be satoshi.

P5 - Craig Steven Wright has not shifted the burden of proof and has insufficient evidence to prove ownership (partial or full) of the satoshi name.

I could go on but we already have 40 pages of the thread. Feel free to jam anything against P5. The other points are surely sound to even B:SV supporters.

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October 22, 2019, 10:38:00 PM
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Reposting here because 'Bitcoin SV' uses self-moderation (censorship) and frequently deletes users posts ... like it's an immutable ledger ...

Theymos on our side. Your efforts is futile.

I highly doubt that. Not after Craig said this in court:

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Hydra was worse than Silk Road. The nature of Hydra that Theymos wanted was as a mechanism to have children exchange hard drugs for pornographic photographs.

That's such hideous bullshit. I don't know how anybody could take Craig seriously after having told such disgusting lies (among many, many others) in a court of law. You should be ashamed for continuing to promote his scam on this forum. Don't confuse theymos valuing freedom of speech for being on the side of one of the biggest conmen the crypto world has ever seen.


Scam can't be in ninth place at coinmarketcap.



What does Craig have anything to do with BSV? The whole point of BSV was to lock down the original protocol so no one could change it (even Craig can’t change it).

BTC = communism
BSV = Capitalism

This is why BSV is pumping out larger blocks on average than BTC nowadays

https://sv.coin.dance/blocks

Because communist BTC developers have not restricted the block size.

Your going to lose all your hair arguing this Nutildah


BSV is not the original protocol.

and ...

"These stock photos are just getting ridiculous"



- https://twitter.com/brianchoffman/status/1186683523853422592

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Not even *Satire*

"Mom, I've downloaded the entire internet and now I'm going to upload it to the BSV blockchain" - SWIM

DERP: You BSV folks really believe that solves a scaling issue, when it is hard enough to only fit transaction into blocks.

Unlimited data storage can most certainly only equal increased centralization and then the original use case of transactions will become equally limited.

Beyond moronic and totally hilarious. Not Bitcoin.

No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limit! ...
- https://youtu.be/exLG0XWM_Dg

....

It's going to be amazingly amazing ...

"Same model?"



- https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/1186699181831835648

 Cheesy Grin

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It's going to be amazingly amazing ...

"Same model?"



- https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/1186699181831835648

 Cheesy Grin

That pic reminds me of the scene in The Truman Show where Truman is using soap to draw a space suit around himself.



If you look at Craig's picture, you'll notice there's a big empty space in the middle of his doodles so the viewer can clearly visualize the depth of his smugness, fully confident in his belief that the world revolves around him.

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It's going to be amazingly amazing ...

"Same model?"



- https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/1186699181831835648

 Cheesy Grin

That pic reminds me of the scene in The Truman Show where Truman is using soap to draw a space suit around himself.



If you look at Craig's picture, you'll notice there's a big empty space in the middle of his doodles so the viewer can clearly visualize the depth of his smugness, fully confident in his belief that the world revolves around him.

Give a Monkey a Brain and He'll Swear He's the Center of the Universe ... ?
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_a_Monkey_a_Brain_and_He'll_Swear_He's_the_Center_of_the_Universe

Always listen to the 'experts' ...
- https://www.thepurringtonpost.com/what-is-it-with-cats-and-circles/

Cheesy

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It's going to be amazingly amazing ...

"Same model?"



- https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/1186699181831835648

 Cheesy Grin

That pic reminds me of the scene in The Truman Show where Truman is using soap to draw a space suit around himself.



If you look at Craig's picture, you'll notice there's a big empty space in the middle of his doodles so the viewer can clearly visualize the depth of his smugness, fully confident in his belief that the world revolves around him.

Give a Monkey a Brain and He'll Swear He's the Center of the Universe ... ?
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_a_Monkey_a_Brain_and_He'll_Swear_He's_the_Center_of_the_Universe

Always listen to the 'experts' ...
- https://www.thepurringtonpost.com/what-is-it-with-cats-and-circles/

Cheesy

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- https://youtu.be/JnPntwwxuq8

Most cats sit in circle but there's always one that want to fork [with] it ...

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October 23, 2019, 11:51:05 AM
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The creator of bitcoin does not have backups? .. hehehe... at this point, I think we're just trolling the troll or something like that.

The real Satoshi is alive and well, having cashed out his second generation coins that he mined, leaving the original first reward era mined coins (before the first block halving) untouched all the way to the genesis block. Or not. No one knows.

"trolling the troll"  Cheesy

You have clearly done a lot of research into this topic @Dabs ... ?

...

I think imma head off to crypto twitter soon enough.

Roll some BSV heads, metaphorically speaking, of course.

Grin

I got blocked by most of them after hitting them with hard evidence that Craig is a fraud. They can't seem to handle logic.




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...snip...

Give a Monkey a Brain and He'll Swear He's the Center of the Universe ... ?
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_a_Monkey_a_Brain_and_He'll_Swear_He's_the_Center_of_the_Universe

Always listen to the 'experts' ...
- https://www.thepurringtonpost.com/what-is-it-with-cats-and-circles/

Cheesy

Babylon Zoo - Spaceman
- https://youtu.be/JnPntwwxuq8

Most cats sit in circle but there's always one that want to fork [with] it ...


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I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.  So much of the design depends on all nodes getting exactly identical results in lockstep that a second implementation would be a menace to the network.  The MIT license is compatible with all other licenses and commercial uses, so there is no need to rewrite it from a licensing standpoint.


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"Never forget"


- https://twitter.com/this_is_DV/status/1117854006888554499

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"Plotting the death of BTC"
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October 23, 2019, 01:42:15 PM
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BSV $105.57 +15.67%

Bitcoin SV Price          $105.57 USD
Bitcoin SV ROI           19.55%
Market Rank              #9
Market Cap                $1,884,951,630 USD
24 Hour Volume         $424,702,501 USD
Circulating Supply      17,854,986 BSV
Total Supply              17,854,986 BSV
Max Supply               21,000,000 BSV

Thanks for sharing! Was looking for an altcoin to short at the moment so nice to see BSV has pumped for whatever stupid reason.
It's nicely coming upto its 200 Day MA and TD Sequential 9 will arrive tomorrow, time to accumulate more BTC again from BSV lovers  Cheesy



Thanks again Bitcoin SV! Currently up 7.6% with leverage after shorting the close of the TD 8 pump. Now I can just move my stop loss down as it collapses.
It's always nice to know I'm gaining Bitcoin from BSV investors  Grin

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October 23, 2019, 01:59:58 PM
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"Yes, the rumours are true...today is #CraigSWright's Birthday! #HappyBirthdaySatoshi 🥳🎉🎁🎂 #CraigIsSatoshi #Bitcoin #BitcoinSV #BirthdayBoyCraig"
- https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1187000990337290240

Erm ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto

"Satoshi Nakamoto"

"Born 5 April 1975 (claimed)"


- http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

Cheesy

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"Yes, the rumours are true...today is #CraigSWright's Birthday! #HappyBirthdaySatoshi 🥳🎉🎁🎂 #CraigIsSatoshi #Bitcoin #BitcoinSV #BirthdayBoyCraig"
- https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1187000990337290240

Erm ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto

"Satoshi Nakamoto"

"Born 5 April 1975 (claimed)"


- http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

Cheesy

For all fairness, this date of birth for Satoshi could be fake, even if provided by the real Satoshi.
Since "Satoshi Nakamoto" is most likely more than one person, this date could have a hidden meaning and not be the real birth day of someone.

Still, I'm amazed Craig didn't forge his own birth date and ID to match Satoshi's date! Cheesy
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For all fairness, this date of birth for Satoshi could be fake, even if provided by the real Satoshi.
Since "Satoshi Nakamoto" is most likely more than one person, this date could have a hidden meaning and not be the real birth day of someone.

Still, I'm amazed Craig didn't forge his own birth date and ID to match Satoshi's date! Cheesy

This !

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“Sigh… why delete a wallet instead of moving to aside and keeping the old copy just in case? You should never delete a wallet.” (October 10, 2010)

I think he followed his own advice. It's out there somewhere, unless he's dead.

In which case:

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Lost coins only make everyone else’s coins worth slightly more.  Think of it as a donation to everyone.

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Crazy people ...

No more jokings

Craig is co-author and stood at the origins of BTC

Just at one fine moment at btc development, some decided to remain anonymous hackers (Indian Coders), others bet on openness and transparency (Craig Wright)

Therefore, each of them is right when they are claims that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. No matter who, Craig Wright or Indian Coders. That's why a psedonymous called "Satoshi Nakamoto" is impossible to correlate with a one concrete person

If you do not believe, ask McAfee

Now take off your flag from Bitcoin SV, retards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=109




You should be talking to your boss first before making all these statements.

Cause right now, you're directly contradicting everything that Craig and Calvin are saying.

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Again, BSV folks have told so many untruths you don't even know if you are coming or going.

Elements within this community group are quite simply regurgitating falsehoods over historical involvement in the creation of BTC.

The facts speak for themselves ...

- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/jimmy007forsure.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/ponsdeserres.html
- https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/mylegacykit.html

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I wonder if the BSV pump is due to this video tweet by McAfee, in which he said:

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(Bitcoin) emerged from the people: average developers, very bright, none of them special, a couple of PhDs, even Craig Wright -- yes, he was involved...

Of course he's not basing this statement on any observable proof and just wants people to accept what he says as truth because "he's fucking John McAfee," but we all know how BSV can be pumped through a single tweet (or retweet), so I'd say it probably has something to do with it.

"I never said he wasn't involved. Of course he was. But he didn't write the White Paper. He is, therefore, not Satoshi. It's this blatant lie of his that I object to."
- https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1185490605469847552

"Of course the developers were a group. Everyone knows who they are. Even Craig Wright is among them. But he is not Satoshi. Satoshi is defined as the author of the white paper. Get some authoring software. Work it out."
- https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1185492650088128517

"Didn't you say the team came from India? Was Craig making the tea?"
- https://twitter.com/stephenarees/status/1185551912923488257

Perhaps, quite literally ... ?

- https://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692

... "Shyaam Sundhar, a computer security professional who coauthored an academic paper with Kleiman and Wright in 2008, doubted and expressed dismay at the idea that either man was involved in Bitcoin’s creation. “Our conversations has only been pertaining to HDD project,” he responded to an inquiry via email, referring to their research on hard drive data. “I would hope that what you have stated is mere rumors, since I have never heard any such thing about Craig or Dave.” ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright

21. ^ Wright, Craig; Kleiman, Dave; Sundhar R.S., Shayaam (2008). "Overwriting Hard Drive Data: The Great Wiping Controversy". In Sekar, R. (ed.). Information Systems Security: 4th International Conference, ICISS 2008, Hyderabad, India, December 16–20, 2008, Proceedings. Springer Science & Business Media. p. 243.

SANS link. MIT link. George Washington University link.
- https://www.sans.org/instructors/shyaam-sundhar-rajamadam-srinivasan
- https://www.f6s.com/shyaamsundharrajamadamsrinivasan

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Full circle ...

Hacker group defies U.S. law, defends exposing McAfee vulnerabilities !
- https://thehackernews.com/2011/03/hacker-group-defies-us-law-defends.html

..." YGN, which doesn't want to disclose the names of its members, said they want to "represent our country" and "'to do security research to contribute to the security of users in [the] digital world."

YGN also participates in security research groups, including EvilFingers, which security analyst Shyaam Sundhar Rajamadam Srinivasan indicated he started with his wife in 2006. When asked about YGN, and whether doing vulnerability tests on websites without the owner's permission is wrong or illegal, Srinivasan is direct.

"YGN is just a group that I got to know recently," according to Srinivasan, who says he is CEO of DigitOnto and works as a contractor for SANS Institute. "My wife and myself, we don't do unethical stuff. I believe that scanning one's website without prior authorization is definitely inappropriate and violates our partnership rules and regulations." He writes that he intends to inform YGN about the same. "EvilFingers never cooperates for any kind of unethical activities." ...


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I already posted and linked to this stuff years ago when CSW did the 'fake' Satoshi reveal.

a.k.a SANOS

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*Satire*
- https://youtu.be/JOqhRx_11Rg?t=23

Sorry to disappoint you (again), but CSW is not Satoshi and BSV is not Bitcoin.

No signed cryptographic proof provided by CSW to date, whatsoever.

Prove me wrong ! I'm testing you. I'm waiting.

Also, India is not Burma.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_occupation_of_Burma

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Rage Against The Machine: Know Your Enemy
- https://youtu.be/4smim2MNvF8

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“Sigh… why delete a wallet instead of moving to aside and keeping the old copy just in case? You should never delete a wallet.” (October 10, 2010)

I think he followed his own advice. It's out there somewhere, unless he's dead.

In which case:

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Lost coins only make everyone else’s coins worth slightly more.  Think of it as a donation to everyone.

God knows.

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"I put my orange, four-inch door hinge in storage and ate porridge with George." - Eminem
- https://youtu.be/lPcR5RVXHMg *NSFW*

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You guys are freaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKpILoUMMb8

You trolls don't know anything. Who is a real Satoshi. And why Craig Wright has confirming signatures.
CSW is closer to Satoshi than you think.

If CSW is SCAM - Let Satoshi will confirm it. That is the question. Because impossible to blame yourself. Because they are all in the same boat

Touché ...

11 October 2019

- https://coingeek.com/bsv-superheroes-assemble-at-coingeek-seoul-after-party-video/

September 10, 2019
Answer my question now,

Why do you need to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is?? What's the requirement??


Finding Satoshi has just became a wide goose chasing game which is leading to nowhere! Let's stop here! It makes no sense to find Satoshi or the creator of bitcoin! You have his creation so make use of it!


"A rumours not a rumour that doesn't die!"

"What?"

"Nothing!"


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- https://youtu.be/K7yez4lXjBI?t=42

"If my memory of her has an expiration date, let it be 10,000 years..."

- https://twitter.com/pmullr/status/1158304740767391745


 Cheesy

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"Woman in blonde wig : Actually, really knowing someone doesn't mean anything. People change. A person may like pineapple today and something else tomorrow."

"Woman in blonde wig : Somehow I've become very cautious. When I put on a raincoat, I put on sunglasses too. Who knows when it will rain, or when it will turn out sunny?"

Roll Eyes

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