MintDice Bitcoin Casino - SportsBook & Provably Fair Games

[Tytanowy Janusz]

It, among other things, will introduce a more comprehensive Provably Fair mechanism for our present games.

Interesting. I'm not an expert but current system (client seed, server seed and online repository with calculation method) gives 100% fair result (to my knowledge). What can be improved with this other than making it more user friendly for newbie users?

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[FanEagle]

Seuntjie would be a great addition for some people, I am not one of those people because I don't really understand the purpose of a bot to do my gambling, I like to gamble myself and have fun myself, a bot gambling for me means I am both going to lose my money (even with bot, you can't beat the house edge) and not even have fun gambling so I find it useless. However there are TONS of people who love it, so we will definitely see a sudden influx of many people coming in and playing here, which is awesome for the investors as well.

Plus, the new provably fair getting out of the way would mean the next stop is new games and I love new games, doesn't matter what it is, I will definitely try it a bit and try to have some fun because playing the old games gets a bit boring after a while and a new fresh game is awesome.

[theskillzdatklls]

It, among other things, will introduce a more comprehensive Provably Fair mechanism for our present games.

Interesting. I'm not an expert but current system (client seed, server seed and online repository with calculation method) gives 100% fair result (to my knowledge). What can be improved with this other than making it more user friendly for newbie users?

I, myself, am not an expert in how Provably Fair works either to be honest. I understand the surface level stuff but not the finer details. I just know that our system is not entirely complete, and it will be soon enough. One thing that I do know has been a legacy problem is proving that the Plinko-Dice are registering fairly. Presently, any dice in Plinko that lands on a 6 doubles it's prize, but we have no public facing mechanism proving this to users (though I can promise you it is using Provably Fair tech on the backend anyway).

Our future games will require Provably Fair mechanisms in all sorts of situations since we are doing everything in our power to make things as transparent as possible and so the architecture that has been built will support the new demands. Related to this, if after this release or the release of our future games, if there is any mechanism people would like to see or have us put into place to increase our overall transparency, we are more than happy to accommodate if the request is valid, so keep that in mind.

Seuntjie would be a great addition for some people, I am not one of those people because I don't really understand the purpose of a bot to do my gambling, I like to gamble myself and have fun myself, a bot gambling for me means I am both going to lose my money (even with bot, you can't beat the house edge) and not even have fun gambling so I find it useless. However there are TONS of people who love it, so we will definitely see a sudden influx of many people coming in and playing here, which is awesome for the investors as well.

Plus, the new provably fair getting out of the way would mean the next stop is new games and I love new games, doesn't matter what it is, I will definitely try it a bit and try to have some fun because playing the old games gets a bit boring after a while and a new fresh game is awesome.

I personally agree with you, I don't like autobetting in my gambling experiences, I enjoy being physically present and enjoying the games manually, but it doesn't really matter what either of us like. I can tell you that tons of people prefer autobetting or bot-betting, and ultimately, we are trying to please every single person as best we can

[DaveF]

So I have been sitting at a client waiting for an installer to show up just playing around here.
Still like the games and the casino. Fun and fast and quick withdraws when you win.
Yeah, I'm wearing their sig but it's still one of the places I play, I just have not been posting in this thread about it.

-Dave

[nc50lc]

After logging in today, I'm about to post this:

Why does my bet, deposit, withdrawal history were wiped?
Actually, everything including my super "special" referral link, it was reset to my username and lastly my play money was gone too.

I've been absent for a while after my last withdrawal and when I logged in today, it didn't accepted my username (I logged in using my email and password).
Everything looks like a new account and I didn't registered a new account.

But after about 3-5minutes, the data were updated.
New question, why is it slow? Those data should be displayed in an instant
I mean, the page quickly loaded without any errors but the account data was delayed for some reason, so the problem isn't my browser.

[theskillzdatklls]

After logging in today, I'm about to post this:

Why does my bet, deposit, withdrawal history were wiped?
Actually, everything including my super "special" referral link, it was reset to my username and lastly my play money was gone too.

I've been absent for a while after my last withdrawal and when I logged in today, it didn't accepted my username (I logged in using my email and password).
Everything looks like a new account and I didn't registered a new account.

But after about 3-5minutes, the data were updated.
New question, why is it slow? Those data should be displayed in an instant
I mean, the page quickly loaded without any errors but the account data was delayed for some reason, so the problem isn't my browser.

I don't really have an answer for you. I can tell you that on our 2.0 version of the website coming with the mobile compatibility and others that, among other things, performance and lag issues should be better, if not non-existent, relative to whatever is experienced today.

I'm not exactly sure on the timing for the release of this product, but I'll estimate ideally within the next 4-6 months.

[panjul07]

It is your 4th month since you came to this forum but there is still so low number of player who are wagering regularly. How much have been wagered so far?
While most other sites are competing to each other by offering something back to players, but I see that mintdice is not really showing any progresses.
I know mintdice is focusing more to improve the site, but I think mintdice should try to have more active players who play regularly. Anytime I check the site there is always 1-2 online users only, it is just unfortunate IMO while you have some interesting games, good interface, good marketing (sign campaign), but you have low number of active players.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

I know mintdice is focusing more to improve the site, but I think mintdice should try to have more active players who play regularly.

The best way to build long term value (and the most honest one) is to create product that everyone want to use. That's why mintdice is focusing to improve site, provably fair mechanism, games.

Promotions and loud marketing boost number of active gamblers only for short term if the product is poor.

good marketing (sign campaign)

There are only 15 bitcointalk users that are promoting the site with total of 500$ weekly payout.

[MintDiceSara]

It is your 4th month since you came to this forum but there is still so low number of player who are wagering regularly. How much have been wagered so far?
While most other sites are competing to each other by offering something back to players, but I see that mintdice is not really showing any progresses.
I know mintdice is focusing more to improve the site, but I think mintdice should try to have more active players who play regularly. Anytime I check the site there is always 1-2 online users only, it is just unfortunate IMO while you have some interesting games, good interface, good marketing (sign campaign), but you have low number of active players.

Naturally we also like to see a higher number of players. But as we have explained before we currently concentrate our efforts on building and improving our site, which will include mobile versions of our existing games. Furthermore we are working on brand new games. To our opinion, improving our product and fixing problems should be the highest priority. We want to deliver a solid product before focussing efforts and funds on attracting more people (through campaigns etc.). Just like Tytanowy Janusz has explained.

For now we are mostly building and improving. Having said that, this doesn't mean we do not work on drawing in new people at all. But step by step. Our daily hours and funds have limits

[crwth]

For now we are mostly building and improving. Having said that, this doesn't mean we do not work on drawing in new people at all.

I do admire the tenacity of the improvements and fixes on the website first before tackling any attraction for customers. I personally like that because if I ever want to play in a casino that has poor performance and slow graphics or something, I wouldn't even come back there. So for the focus on the site, a great job, and I think customers will follow next. Keep up the great work. I see people increasing in the Telegram Group, so I guess it's a good sign.

[mu_enrico]

Yeah, marketing is important, but not all casinos have a vast amount of budget for marketing. Moreover, I think they are not satisfied yet with the MVP (current product) and want to improve the site first before adding marketing programs. IMO that's why MintDice decided to scale back its signature campaign to be more efficient in this building process.

[fullhdpixel]

4 months is really nothing compared to goliaths in the casino business. Most of them have been around for years now and they have built that number up because they were one of the first, now there has been hundreds of casinos since those first ones came up, so of course people are sticking to the old ones instead of trying new ones which sounds risky to them.

Yes, we are getting some users and I love the fact that mintdice team cares about marketing because that is the most important part of running a casino but do not expect it to be huge all of a sudden. It will take some years to become as big as the other huge ones, which is expected because how can a casino be in existence for 4 months and be great when there are ones who have been around for 2+ years, so it will take time but it will get there.

[MintDiceSara]

I do admire the tenacity of the improvements and fixes on the website first before tackling any attraction for customers. I personally like that because if I ever want to play in a casino that has poor performance and slow graphics or something, I wouldn't even come back there. So for the focus on the site, a great job, and I think customers will follow next. Keep up the great work. I see people increasing in the Telegram Group, so I guess it's a good sign.

Yeah, marketing is important, but not all casinos have a vast amount of budget for marketing. Moreover, I think they are not satisfied yet with the MVP (current product) and want to improve the site first before adding marketing programs. IMO that's why MintDice decided to scale back its signature campaign to be more efficient in this building process.

4 months is really nothing compared to goliaths in the casino business. Most of them have been around for years now and they have built that number up because they were one of the first, now there has been hundreds of casinos since those first ones came up, so of course people are sticking to the old ones instead of trying new ones which sounds risky to them.

Yes, we are getting some users and I love the fact that mintdice team cares about marketing because that is the most important part of running a casino but do not expect it to be huge all of a sudden. It will take some years to become as big as the other huge ones, which is expected because how can a casino be in existence for 4 months and be great when there are ones who have been around for 2+ years, so it will take time but it will get there.

Thanks a lot for your comments, guys. All of you sum it up pretty neatly

[FanEagle]

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I personally agree with you, I don't like autobetting in my gambling experiences, I enjoy being physically present and enjoying the games manually, but it doesn't really matter what either of us like. I can tell you that tons of people prefer autobetting or bot-betting, and ultimately, we are trying to please every single person as best we can

Yeah I totally agree, it shouldn't matter what we like because if there are tons of people who like to gamble that way than it means addition will be awesome.

That is why I literally said "seuintjie will be a great addition for some people" because I know some people think they can tweak and tinker with some bots to make it much more possible to actually have a way to make money with this, I disagree and think that casinos are built in a way that in the long run they should be profiting but that doesn't mean they are not entertaining so we are spending money to have fun anyway, that is why I have a weekly budget and even if I end up spending all of it on Monday (thankfully happened in months) I stop for a whole week, doesn't matter when I run out of that money. To me, this is just way too much fun to let a bot do it for me.

[Zicadis]

Here's the thing. There are two types of gamblers, gamblers who play incessantly in hope of making a quick profit, though as it happens 99.99% of these are losses, and there are the gamblers who actually get 'pumped' up by the exhilarating gambling experience.  As such, most of the gambling sites would want to cater for both types of gamblers through its various features.

There's no point in faulting one site for trying to reach to the wider audience, yes, while, it may not be ideal for the 'true blood' gamblers its a strategy the industry adopts.

[RivAngE]

Here's the thing. There are two types of gamblers, gamblers who play incessantly in hope of making a quick profit, though as it happens 99.99% of these are losses, and there are the gamblers who actually get 'pumped' up by the exhilarating gambling experience.  As such, most of the gambling sites would want to cater for both types of gamblers through its various features.

There's no point in faulting one site for trying to reach to the wider audience, yes, while, it may not be ideal for the 'true blood' gamblers its a strategy the industry adopts.

I don't understand what you mean by "pump" regarding the experienced gamblers. I don't think that the experienced ones are more likely to make a profit than they are to lose.
They just stand better chances in comparison to the inexperienced poor souls who keep gambling until they lose everything!

[bitgolden]

Yeah, marketing is important, but not all casinos have a vast amount of budget for marketing. Moreover, I think they are not satisfied yet with the MVP (current product) and want to improve the site first before adding marketing programs. IMO that's why MintDice decided to scale back its signature campaign to be more efficient in this building process.

No matter what level you are with your product, marketing is a must, there are free marketing methods as well or even very cheap ones, if you want to run a casino and get known you have to have a marketing budget, if you start with zero then you will not go big and mintdice is not like that. They have been doing that signature deal for a looong time now, they came out of the gates with guns blazing and they have turned that into customers who lost money and kept going.

So, I assume they have a marketing budget and they have been using it on signatures. Maybe they can try other stuff as well but I feel like as long as they keep going with the signature and just give it time, there will be more and more people eventually. It is just the way it is, adoption requires time.

[Zicadis]

Yeah, marketing is important, but not all casinos have a vast amount of budget for marketing. Moreover, I think they are not satisfied yet with the MVP (current product) and want to improve the site first before adding marketing programs. IMO that's why MintDice decided to scale back its signature campaign to be more efficient in this building process.

No matter what level you are with your product, marketing is a must, there are free marketing methods as well or even very cheap ones, if you want to run a casino and get known you have to have a marketing budget, if you start with zero then you will not go big and mintdice is not like that. They have been doing that signature deal for a looong time now, they came out of the gates with guns blazing and they have turned that into customers who lost money and kept going.

So, I assume they have a marketing budget and they have been using it on signatures. Maybe they can try other stuff as well but I feel like as long as they keep going with the signature and just give it time, there will be more and more people eventually. It is just the way it is, adoption requires time.

I agree with you both, that marketing is a crucial part of running a casino. So, I do feel that generally if a business runs short on budget not being able to afford marketing, on a temporal basis is somewhat acceptable, but on a long run it isn't. You may even argue that this shows signs of a business stagnating, so why would you want to stick around? The chances are that you won't see the improvements the other successful casinos are implementing, so in the end is your own loss - why risk it?

Though, from what I've seen so far, it does not seem that this particular casino is in this jeopardy, of course, I don't know their finance situation so take everything with a 'pinch of salt'  

[Tytanowy Janusz]

There are two types of gamblers

I would rather say that there are gamblers:
1- who knows that statistic advantage is on casino site so they play to have fun, to feel excitement, adrenaline and with a little luck win some money. After losing money they say - it was a great time. Maybe next time i'll be lucky.
2- who thinks that they can beat math and statistics by their random system that sounds good (like martingale). They lose all their money without fun, excitement and adrenaline. After losing money they say - casino was cheating... my system should work ... i need to bring more money to cover next bet calculated by my system.

[leea-1334]

Naturally we also like to see a higher number of players. But as we have explained before we currently concentrate our efforts on building and improving our site, which will include mobile versions of our existing games. Furthermore we are working on brand new games. To our opinion, improving our product and fixing problems should be the highest priority. We want to deliver a solid product before focussing efforts and funds on attracting more people (through campaigns etc.). Just like Tytanowy Janusz has explained.

For now we are mostly building and improving. Having said that, this doesn't mean we do not work on drawing in new people at all. But step by step. Our daily hours and funds have limits

Good to see you being patient. You are a new site,,, even after four months you have to call yourself that. And most dice sites die in the first year so if you show that you keep improving and developing in the first year, by the time you enter year 2, you will have a solid reputation of a new and serious site.

Keep it up, do not worry about growth until it is time to worry;)