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June 26, 2019, 04:16:39 PM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards



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June 26, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards




The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.


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June 26, 2019, 04:41:06 PM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards




The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.

I hope so too...but  then where humans are involved  Huh

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June 26, 2019, 05:34:03 PM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards




The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.

I hope so too...but  then where humans are involved  Huh

Jup, I am very suspicious of that too.
Today my first order of 25 stamps arrived...
Very poorly results.
- 18 black
- 4 green
- 3 blue

I might just be very very unlucky... but chances are, some orders might be tempered with by some of the employees doing the packaging and are actually prescanned (mostly for reds but possibly also for yellow ones).

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June 26, 2019, 05:36:34 PM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards




The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.

I hope so too...but  then where humans are involved  Huh

Jup, I am very suspicious of that too.
Today my first order of 25 stamps arrived...
Very poorly results.
- 18 black
- 4 green
- 3 blue

I might just be very very unlucky... but chances are, some orders might be tempered with by some of the employees doing the packaging and are actually prescanned (mostly for reds but possibly also for yellow ones).


I think the color check code area should've been covered as well with a scratch off to prevent this from happening.

The Austrian post office should be made aware of these issues to prevent them hopefully from happening again

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June 26, 2019, 05:44:37 PM
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Originally sold for $22, released in Jan 2018. Has a different kind of crypto on it. "Group" something...when I first looked into these, face value was $1100  Shocked  so yeah...the Austria crypto stamps are definitely not the first.  Undecided



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June 26, 2019, 05:58:55 PM
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Originally sold for $22, released in Jan 2018. Has a different kind of crypto on it. "Group" something...when I first looked into these, face value was $1100  Shocked  so yeah...the Austria crypto stamps are definitely not the first.  Undecided

More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079788.0

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June 26, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
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Originally sold for $22, released in Jan 2018. Has a different kind of crypto on it. "Group" something...when I first looked into these, face value was $1100  Shocked  so yeah...the Austria crypto stamps are definitely not the first.  Undecided



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https://www.crypto-universe.net/2018/12/05/gibraltar-crypto-currency-qrg-opens-at-22-00-on-the-idcm-io-exchange/


Cool, thanks for brininging these up. Saw these once, but totally forgot about them.
"A limited supply, only fifty thousand blocks of four stamps have been produced"
So 200.000 in total and they sell for $1100 now?! That's amazing and a good sign for the Austrian stamps I hope.

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June 26, 2019, 06:13:43 PM
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Seems it's gone up considerably. THis is literally the only one I can find for sale on the web.... Roll Eyes

http://hubdeals.com/Listing/Details/379634/Quick-Response-GibraltarQRG

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June 26, 2019, 06:17:27 PM
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Seems it's gone up considerably. THis is literally the only one I can find for sale on the web.... Roll Eyes

http://hubdeals.com/Listing/Details/379634/Quick-Response-GibraltarQRG

if you're looking for a deal  Roll Eyes

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  Very expensive but you can also buy it with three other people and split it 4 ways Wink

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I've gotten nothing from my order yet.  I'm sure they have caught onto the prices of these.  Cant wait to get all blacks in my order  Roll Eyes

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I just received an e-mail confirming that they shipped my 1st order today. It was placed on the 14th.
Eagerly waiting to see what I get. Roll Eyes

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June 27, 2019, 10:45:18 AM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards




The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.

I hope so too...but  then where humans are involved  Huh

Jup, I am very suspicious of that too.
Today my first order of 25 stamps arrived...
Very poorly results.
- 18 black
- 4 green
- 3 blue

I might just be very very unlucky... but chances are, some orders might be tempered with by some of the employees doing the packaging and are actually prescanned (mostly for reds but possibly also for yellow ones).


can you please check if the Token ID for those stamps is serialized, you can check very easy via crypto.post.at / opensea
i got so far one delivery via online shop that had continous IDs
would be interesting to see if you have some missing/sorted
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June 27, 2019, 10:53:53 AM
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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

Best regards




The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.

I hope so too...but  then where humans are involved  Huh

Jup, I am very suspicious of that too.
Today my first order of 25 stamps arrived...
Very poorly results.
- 18 black
- 4 green
- 3 blue

I might just be very very unlucky... but chances are, some orders might be tempered with by some of the employees doing the packaging and are actually prescanned (mostly for reds but possibly also for yellow ones).


can you please check if the Token ID for those stamps is serialized, you can check very easy via crypto.post.at / opensea
i got so far one delivery via online shop that had continous IDs
would be interesting to see if you have some missing/sorted

Yes, I am checking this with a group of people who also bought stamps.
There were some inconsistencies, but mostly it's continous IDs.

However: I am retracting my suspicion that orders might be pre-scanned for now.
Today I got a purchase of 13 unstamped and 25 stamped ones, including a few yellow ones and... yes... one red one.
Super happy right now.  Cheesy

There is a larger order pending, with a bigger sample size I will report back again then, as it will be easier to see with a high confidence level, if pre-scanning probably occured or not.
However with this relatively small order I just received I definitly got very lucky and find it super unlikely, that pre-scanning occured.

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June 27, 2019, 10:55:21 AM
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Gibraltar, December 6, 2018

QRG – is born, as a collectible crypto stamp, released in May of 2018 by the National Post office of Gibraltar. A limited supply, only fifty thousand blocks of four stamps have been produced. Each block has a QR code printed next to the stamps, which when scanned generate 200 QRG Coins per block in an Ethereum wallet (e.g. MyEtherWallet) there will never be more than 10,000,000 tokens issued.

One Stamp Collector, who attempted to purchase QRG stamps on opening day said, “Several of us tried, but the Gibraltar Post Office sold out quickly. We received
 polite notes saying “the QRG issue is no longer available”.

QRG – UTILITY – QRG has already been accepted as payment by some collectible dealers, private collectors and auction houses. The 200 crypto coins embedded in each block of four QRG Stamps and the anticipation of the coins listing on exchanges has created a scarcity of supply.

Collector and World Chess Champion Anatoly Karpov, a world-renowned philatelist puts it
 eloquently:

The collectables world, philatelic and Crypto communities will welcome the
 advent of block chain and distributed ledger technology to facilitate the
 transfer of value between buyers and sellers. The Gibraltar QRG Coins will be
 a leading light in illuminating the transparency of such transactions and
 thereby increasing the trust and confidence of participants on both sides.”

https://www.crypto-universe.net/2018/12/05/gibraltar-crypto-currency-qrg-opens-at-22-00-on-the-idcm-io-exchange/
https://qrg-stamps.com/

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Yes, I am checking this with a group of people who also bought stamps.
There were some inconsistencies, but mostly it's continous IDs.

However: I am retracting my suspicion that orders might be pre-scanned for now.
Today I got a purchase of 13 unstamped and 25 stamped ones, including a few yellow ones and... yes... one red one.
Super happy right now.  Cheesy

There is a larger order pending, with a bigger sample size I will report back again then, as it will be easier to see with a high confidence level, if pre-scanning probably occured or not.
However with this relatively small order I just received I definitly got very lucky and find it super unlikely, that pre-scanning occured.

So glad to hear that Krypto! I am looking forward into receiving mine maybe I will get lucky too!!  Cheesy

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Originally sold for $22, released in Jan 2018. Has a different kind of crypto on it. "Group" something...when I first looked into these, face value was $1100  Shocked  so yeah...the Austria crypto stamps are definitely not the first.  Undecided




Gibraltar, December 6, 2018

QRG – is born, as a collectible crypto stamp, released in May of 2018 by the National Post office of Gibraltar. A limited supply, only fifty thousand blocks of four stamps have been produced. Each block has a QR code printed next to the stamps, which when scanned generate 200 QRG Coins per block in an Ethereum wallet (e.g. MyEtherWallet) there will never be more than 10,000,000 tokens issued.

One Stamp Collector, who attempted to purchase QRG stamps on opening day said, “Several of us tried, but the Gibraltar Post Office sold out quickly. We received
 polite notes saying “the QRG issue is no longer available”.

QRG – UTILITY – QRG has already been accepted as payment by some collectible dealers, private collectors and auction houses. The 200 crypto coins embedded in each block of four QRG Stamps and the anticipation of the coins listing on exchanges has created a scarcity of supply.

Collector and World Chess Champion Anatoly Karpov, a world-renowned philatelist puts it
 eloquently:

“The collectables world, philatelic and Crypto communities will welcome the
 advent of block chain and distributed ledger technology to facilitate the
 transfer of value between buyers and sellers. The Gibraltar QRG Coins will be
 a leading light in illuminating the transparency of such transactions and
 thereby increasing the trust and confidence of participants on both sides.”

https://www.crypto-universe.net/2018/12/05/gibraltar-crypto-currency-qrg-opens-at-22-00-on-the-idcm-io-exchange/
https://qrg-stamps.com/


Thanks a lot for this info.

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One Stamp Collector, who attempted to purchase QRG stamps on opening day said, “Several of us tried, but the Gibraltar Post Office sold out quickly. We received
 polite notes saying “the QRG issue is no longer available”.
Makes me believe one or a few whales bought most of the whole contingent, so probably a very centralized distribution, which I don't find very appealing. - Still, it's probably the *real* first crypto stamp, which makes it obviously extremely special.
Compared to this distribution, despite all the appropriate critique about snail-mail and an online-shop that was on-and-off several times a day, the way the Austrian stamps were distributed seems much fairer. I know that almost all crypto-enthusiats that I know of were able to get at least a few stamps.
Also, looking at the order I just received, I think it might be more likely that they do indeed have some protection in place, to prevent the sending office from pre-scanning and selecting (red & yellow) stamps.
Austria is a tiny country, but they are not idiots and regarding crypto they are actually ahead in many ways compared to quite a few larger EU countries.

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So now Krypto.....you will need to get two sets...one stamped and one unstamped. That is the ultimate prize!

As well as a first day cover with a RED stamp!  Wink

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Btw: Your chances for one or more red stamps is 40.5% if you ordered 50

Yes indeed, i got the same 1-(1-1500/150000)^50=0,405
That being said, the exact calculation involves the hypergeometric distribution. However i agree that,
in this case, the binomial distribution can be used instead.

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The only thing i am worried about this calculation is if it’s truly a random selection that they are offering to people.

I hope so too...but  then where humans are involved  Huh

Jup, I am very suspicious of that too.
Today my first order of 25 stamps arrived...
Very poorly results.
- 18 black
- 4 green
- 3 blue

I might just be very very unlucky... but chances are, some orders might be tempered with by some of the employees doing the packaging and are actually prescanned (mostly for reds but possibly also for yellow ones).


can you please check if the Token ID for those stamps is serialized, you can check very easy via crypto.post.at / opensea
i got so far one delivery via online shop that had continous IDs
would be interesting to see if you have some missing/sorted

Yes, I am checking this with a group of people who also bought stamps.
There were some inconsistencies, but mostly it's continous IDs.

However: I am retracting my suspicion that orders might be pre-scanned for now.
Today I got a purchase of 13 unstamped and 25 stamped ones, including a few yellow ones and... yes... one red one.
Super happy right now.  Cheesy

There is a larger order pending, with a bigger sample size I will report back again then, as it will be easier to see with a high confidence level, if pre-scanning probably occured or not.
However with this relatively small order I just received I definitly got very lucky and find it super unlikely, that pre-scanning occured.

Thanks for letting us know, sounds good!
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