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April 08, 2014, 06:23:13 AM |
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All of our ants @ 393mhz get 200GH/s, and pull 410W at the wall with an 80 Plus Gold 750W Rosewill PSU, which is right at 90% efficient at. That means our Ants are pulling 370W from the PSU, and this includes removing the blue/white wires from the fans so they're running at 100%.
If your 2 ants are pulling 900W, you need a better (more efficient) PSU.
I't was a pretty inexpensive PSU (under $80, possibly under $70) so it may not be the most efficient, good brand but I don't remember at the moment and it's not much of a concern to me right now, I am paying less than 6c per kilowatt of wind energy--it's unlikely I would have gotten ROI on a more efficient power supply and with wind energy--no real reason to feel bad about using a little more.  Either way, it's still necessary to account for both the power supply and the additional energy usage (depending on rate, of course) of the 6 S1's over 1 S2. I'm not suggesting it wouldn't be worth it--but you can't base it off the math that was provided. Also, who knows what the S1s and S2s will be priced at when they bring them back, it's kind of a waste of time and energy to even try to made a decision now without that information. I definitely plan on playing with frequencies a little more to see if I can get better hashing than with them set to 400Mhz, whenever I have a chance. It was working for me earlier and it's working now. Also--THEY HAVE S1's IN STOCK!!!!!!! |
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mdude77
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April 08, 2014, 09:03:11 AM |
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AntMiner S2 1TH/s Miner (1w/GH/s) Batch 2
Price: 3599 USD ( 8.065 BTC )
AntMiner S1 180GH/s
AntMiner S1 - 0.893BTC
1000/180= 5.56
AntMiner S2 = 6 AntMiner S1
8.065 BTC > 6 x 0.893BTC
8.065 BTC > 5.36 BTC
so buy AntMiner S2 or 6 AntMiner S1 ?
will be ROI if buy AntMiner S2 or 6 AntMiner S1?
Power is a factor here. 6 S1s will use more power, and generate more heat, than 1 S1 will. If heat and power isn't a factor in your equation, then the S1s make more sense. M No doubt Sherlock , about 6x more .....  Oops, typo! fixed.. M |
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jasper1000
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April 08, 2014, 11:20:53 AM |
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Thought about the S2 but running 6 S1 for a month got to be better than twiddling your thumbs waiting you S2 to arrive
S1 got me almost 4 BTC ($2,000+)
Waiting for S2 0 BTC ($0)
Add the above into you calculations!
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April 08, 2014, 11:53:08 AM |
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4xS2 Units arrived today.
Two of the four boxes very worse for wear. One box was wet across the end as if it had been sitting in water.
Each machine had a few boards out of the rails. One had it's internal network cable unplugged. Another one had the screen unplugged. One power supply had been badly installed and two of the screws had stripped. the PSU wis sitting at a bit of an angle.
Only received rack mounts for 3 of them.
Reseated all the cards and they all ran fine. No sign of any water getting through the bubblewrap.
One board out of all 40 is showing a zero temp reading but is hashing away regardless.
Unexpected Bonus: They came with Australian plugs!
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April 08, 2014, 01:19:47 PM |
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Bitmain as much as I like your lovely surprise announcements about your product availability it would really help me to plan ahead to prepare/purchase the necessary BTC for your upcoming Batch 3 S2.
Since you are supposed to start shipping S2 batch 2 in less than 48 hours could you please tell us when you will be opening S2 batch 3 sales and price?
Thank you
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philipma1957
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April 08, 2014, 01:21:29 PM |
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4xS2 Units arrived today.
Two of the four boxes very worse for wear. One box was wet across the end as if it had been sitting in water.
Each machine had a few boards out of the rails. One had it's internal network cable unplugged. Another one had the screen unplugged. One power supply had been badly installed and two of the screws had stripped. the PSU wis sitting at a bit of an angle.
Only received rack mounts for 3 of them.
Reseated all the cards and they all ran fine. No sign of any water getting through the bubblewrap.
One board out of all 40 is showing a zero temp reading but is hashing away regardless.
Unexpected Bonus: They came with Australian plugs!
hash rates please and watt use please. 4th at 4000 watts? I realize you need a k watt meter and may not have one. but at least hash rates . |
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philipma1957
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April 08, 2014, 01:24:49 PM |
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Bitmain as much as I like your lovely surprise announcements about your product availability it would really help me to plan ahead to prepare/purchase the necessary BTC for your upcoming Batch 3 S2.
Since you are supposed to start shipping S2 batch 2 in less than 48 hours could you please tell us when you will be opening S2 batch 3 sales and price?
Thank you
you will want to be ready by the 10th. or 11th and have at least 3k in btc. although a second source has told me have 3.5k usd in btc. So you need 7.5-8.5 coins ready by the 11th. Please remember you could get 7 s-1s for that price includes psu's wires and a gigabyte/cat5/6 switch |
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April 08, 2014, 01:26:36 PM |
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It isn't worth the time and added expense for .075 BTC per day that an S2 will generate. I think we are past the point where network difficulty is so hard its hard to generate positive roi even with no electricity costs. |
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April 08, 2014, 01:51:33 PM |
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Would have to be a fair bit less than 3k USD delivered for me to get one, else it will never get close enough to ROI. Pretty much better off buying btc with your money instead of miners IMO. You will have to resell the unit in a few months to make any profit, that's a lot of time and effort for a few hundred bucks
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April 08, 2014, 03:42:45 PM |
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"I think we are past the point where network difficulty is so hard its hard to generate positive roi even with no electricity costs."
Precisely! Good to see some people around here still with their brain intact. Unfortunately, as in life, its only a minority. What about the noob saying Bitmain brought used PSU's, that one made me smile. Just sit back and enjoy the popcorn! |
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April 08, 2014, 03:53:00 PM |
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"I think we are past the point where network difficulty is so hard its hard to generate positive roi even with no electricity costs."
Precisely! Good to see some people around here still with their brain intact. Unfortunately, as in life, its only a minority. What about the noob saying Bitmain brought used PSU's, that one made me smile. Just sit back and enjoy the popcorn! KNC now has a new Plan "B" One of their options is to sell off some of their used farm equipment to the people waiting for the Neptunes. DUH is pretty bad. At the same time saying their new multi million dollar data facility is almost ready. |
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April 08, 2014, 04:11:34 PM |
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"I think we are past the point where network difficulty is so hard its hard to generate positive roi even with no electricity costs."
Precisely! Good to see some people around here still with their brain intact. Unfortunately, as in life, its only a minority. What about the noob saying Bitmain brought used PSU's, that one made me smile. Just sit back and enjoy the popcorn! KNC now has a new Plan "B" One of their options is to sell off some of their used farm equipment to the people waiting for the Neptunes. DUH is pretty bad. At the same time saying their new multi million dollar data facility is almost ready. Wow. They should have given the customers the machines instead of hoarding them for themselves. Bad business practice when you are competing with your customers. |
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April 08, 2014, 05:18:03 PM |
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What would be a good fan replacement for the S2 that would reduce the sound significantly? The S2 has been great, but the noise is quite loud.
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April 08, 2014, 05:26:48 PM |
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Yeah, but you gotta love KNCMiners latest Fire Sale with the Titan!
Technologically impossible with those specifications, but look at the suckers that jumped the gun and brought one or two.
Sorry, I meant brought shares in the KNCMiner farm!
They will renege on the Titan and go with another "plan B" or will that be "plan C" for Ca$hed you in?
KNCMiner - Scammers, hobby killers, and environmental destroyers!
Did I mention greedy fucking pricks???
For those reasons alone I hope btc dies! Let alone how this whole site is criminally run!
munch, munch!
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April 08, 2014, 05:29:55 PM |
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Yeah, but you gotta love KNCMiners latest Fire Sale with the Titan!
Technologically impossible with those specifications, but look at the suckers that jumped the gun and brought one or two.
Sorry, I meant brought shares in the KNCMiner farm!
They will renege on the Titan and go with another "plan B" or will that be "plan C" for Ca$hed you in?
KNCMiner - Scammers, hobby killers, and environmental destroyers!
Did I mention greedy fucking pricks???
For those reasons alone I hope btc dies! Let alone how this whole site is criminally run!
munch, munch!
Wow, tell us how you really feel. At least KNC is offering some sort of compensation, which is better than most of these companies. |
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You call it compensation, I call it you just got played!
btc is now run by scammers, evil Wall ST and criminal syndicates.
The 3TH will never make any profit, be it from "3TH of plan B" OR even if they delivered the machines now!
Unfortunately you S2 owners are just realizing this now, I personally don't think you will even get 3/4 of your ROI.
hmmmm why were the psu's dusty?
As far as the comments below asking for my post to be deleted or calling me a shrill or a troll.
These people you need to look out for because they are in on this whole scam and keep pumping the forums with B.S. to keep you buying into the btc scam.
If they don't how else can they cash you out??
They either multiple post to bury down anyone exposing the btc scam. Or the mod's delete it or move it to meta. If your a real thorn you get banned.
Thank god for Bitmain, he said! lol that one certainly went over the top!
I say thank god for IP sock puppets!
Just go to KNC's site and see the majority are realizing they have been screwed.
Notice how KNC's refund policy changed for the Titan? It has no refund options whatsoever and instead of the 1 year warranty it is now 30 days.
Not that Titan will ever eventuate remember!
Now as far as saying I hope btc dies, that doesn't mean I don't support scrypt crypto. Uknow the one you can't exploit.
BUT unfortunately EVERYTHING is pegged to btc........
Sorry if your alarmed at my comments, but it is the truth and if you didn't know, well I just brought you up to speed!
Let the B.S. continue b4 your very eyes! And look out for post mods or deletions as explained above.
munch munch
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April 08, 2014, 05:36:03 PM |
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Yeah, but you gotta love KNCMiners latest Fire Sale with the Titan!
Technologically impossible with those specifications, but look at the suckers that jumped the gun and brought one or two.
Sorry, I meant brought shares in the KNCMiner farm!
They will renege on the Titan and go with another "plan B" or will that be "plan C" for Ca$hed you in?
KNCMiner - Scammers, hobby killers, and environmental destroyers!
Did I mention greedy fucking pricks???
For those reasons alone I hope btc dies! Let alone how this whole site is criminally run!
munch, munch!
I like how they say time frame is q2/q3 which could mean september. |
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April 08, 2014, 07:10:05 PM |
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You call it compensation, I call it you just got played!
It's actually called "you got what you PAID!". Customers paid for a 3TH with Q2 as delivery deadline and they will get what they paid for in June. It doesn't cross the deadline so i don't see the problem. As for scammers i don't see who or how they scammed people, but yeah this forum needs more tard shill accounts! |
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April 08, 2014, 07:19:40 PM |
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You call it compensation, I call it you just got played!
It's actually called "you got what you PAID!". Customers paid for a 3TH with Q2 as delivery deadline and they will get what they paid for in June. It doesn't cross the deadline so i don't see the problem. As for scammers i don't see who or how they scammed people, but yeah this forum needs more tard shill accounts! Do you really want to waste time feeding a troll? I mean just read his damn post : Did I mention greedy fucking pricks???
For those reasons alone I hope btc dies! Let alone how this whole site is criminally run!
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