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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Winners: Eintracht Frankfurt!  (Read 34365 times)
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April 16, 2022, 07:03:35 AM
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Spain's media reported that Barcelona sold about 10,000 tickets to Frankfurt fans, but there were many more in the stands. According to all reports, Frankfurt had 30,000 fans, and Barcelona did not know where so many of them were coming from in the stands. However, it soon became clear that it was some Barca fans who were to blame for all this. Specifically, Barca fans with season tickets sold their tickets to Frankfurt fans. They expected the match to be uninteresting and Barcelona would surely win. But they were mistaken. It's possible that their actions indirectly helped Frankfurt to win. Since, as they say, the fans are the 12th player on the field.

I think away fans as Frankfurt just got 3,000 ticket allocation but have more than 20,000 Barcelona fans sell their ticket to Frankfurt fans, still speculative because several information talk with Frankfurt fans buy ticket as tourist or neutral fans. How ever with most dominance Frankfurt fans on Camp Nou stadium  I think most shy for Barcelona. How come play at home but most Frankfurt fans there than Barcelona fans. Despite with bad result and Barcelona have eliminated from UEFA Europe League I think fans not sell their ticket although got much profit almost 100% for Frankfurt fans.

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April 16, 2022, 07:44:15 AM
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Barcelona definitely got a lot of experience from this defeat a defeat that no one had ever thought of before including us as fans
Another fact is controlling the match 75% does not guarantee will win the match Frankfurt can compensate on the counter-attack
Actually Frankfurt who are from the German League also have experience and they also know that Barcelona is a strong club so they try to attack as much as possible to get goals from the start. And it turned out that this was successfully done so that until the end of the match Frankfurt was still enthusiastic because their hard work paid off with a win which was unexpected by everyone.
Frankfurt experience in Europe is not as much as Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Leverkusen. Frankfurt's success beat Barcelona at Camp Nou because Frankfurt applied a style of play that could kill Barcelona's tiki-taka tactics. Frankfurt's quick counter-attack very lethal, Frankfurt Coach is very clever in turning off the opposing team strategy that dominates Ball Possession.

Despite all the positive comments for Frankfurt, the luck factor cannot be separated from Frankfurt qualification to the semifinals. Frankfurt is showing inconsistent performances in the Bundesliga, but Frankfurt looks very dangerous in Europe.

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April 16, 2022, 11:48:41 AM
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Frankfurt's match strategy was good so they won. Barcelona is a very strong club. And Frankfurt was aware of Barcelona's match strategy. And they also considered the fact that Barcelona's defense was weak. And so from the start of the match, Frankfurt continued to attack, not allowing Barcelona to create an opportunity to attack. And Frankfurt has taken advantage of the weak defense of Barcelona. That is why they have got the expected results.
Barcelona defeat was as a result of fallible defense. They made alot of mistakes was made at Barcelona defense, although the home team, Barcelona dominated the game massively. Frankfurt only played a defensive and counter attack game. The away team made 9 counters in the game, which 3 leds to goals. What weakens the Barcelona team was the early goal they conceded in the first 3 mins of first half. Frankfurt beat the home team like, Barcelona wasn't prepared for the game. Perhaps they did a come-back in the second half of the game but Sergio Busquets goal was ruled out by VAR in the 84th minutes but he later net the opponents goal post again with a stunning strike which make the scorelines 3-1. Therefore giving Xavi's side hope to qualify, then at stoppage time, Barcelona were awarded a penalty which the referee gave Evan N'Dicka a red card, which sent him off the game. Memphis Depay scored but there nmwas no time for them to levelled the game. Barcelona tried in thr home game with a deadline come back but Unfortunately Barcelona are out of Europe.

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April 16, 2022, 12:16:14 PM
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I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

ya.ya.yo!

Many Frankfurt supporters bought tickets unofficially that's why more than 30000 supporters can enter the stadium even though it should be no more than 15000
Some media say this is one of the factors that affect Frankfurt's game they seem to get more motivated

This should be one of their best game of the season.
Did you see how they played? They held Barcelona very well and hit them with counter attack's.
They did good use of the wings since the midfielder's of Barcelona were very better than them in the game , they also defended very well.

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April 16, 2022, 02:35:08 PM
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I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

ya.ya.yo!

Many Frankfurt supporters bought tickets unofficially that's why more than 30000 supporters can enter the stadium even though it should be no more than 15000
Some media say this is one of the factors that affect Frankfurt's game they seem to get more motivated

This should be one of their best game of the season.
Did you see how they played? They held Barcelona very well and hit them with counter attack's.
They did good use of the wings since the midfielder's of Barcelona were very better than them in the game , they also defended very well.
Frankfurt's game was extraordinary, they were able to apply the same strategy as when playing the 1st leg and even in this 2nd leg they played much more confident because they were able to score a goal in the early minutes.
The counter-attack scheme from Frankfurt was really a bad disaster for Barcelona and also the defense from Frankfurt was very strong and tidy without making the slightest mistake so as not to leave room for Barcelona.
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April 16, 2022, 03:27:48 PM
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This should be one of their best game of the season.
Did you see how they played? They held Barcelona very well and hit them with counter attack's.
They did good use of the wings since the midfielder's of Barcelona were very better than them in the game , they also defended very well.
Barcelona is only late to turn things around, if only if they had aggressively attacked since the first half maybe the result would have been a little different. Indeed, judging from Frankfurt's performance when it had outperformed the game, automatically Barcelona only followed the rhythm that they were trying to play. So that at that time in addition to slowing Barcelona's attack, Frankfurt's players locked the backline very well.

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April 16, 2022, 03:42:23 PM
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This should be one of their best game of the season.
Did you see how they played? They held Barcelona very well and hit them with counter attack's.
They did good use of the wings since the midfielder's of Barcelona were very better than them in the game , they also defended very well.
Barcelona is only late to turn things around, if only if they had aggressively attacked since the first half maybe the result would have been a little different. Indeed, judging from Frankfurt's performance when it had outperformed the game, automatically Barcelona only followed the rhythm that they were trying to play. So that at that time in addition to slowing Barcelona's attack, Frankfurt's players locked the backline very well.
After all, any team right now when they have taken the lead even with just one goal, they can change it to be more defensive. But the great thing is, even though they defended they were still able to take advantage of the pass errors and the individual skills of the Barcelona players so they could counter-attack and score goals. In reality Barcelona couldn't score in normal time, as it was absolutely impossible to turn things around and score only in the extra time available. Eintracht Frankfurt can really play discipline in this match, they deserve to go ahead to be able to make a new record in the Europa League which has so far been dominated by teams from La Liga and the EPL.

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April 16, 2022, 03:47:22 PM
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Barcelona definitely got a lot of experience from this defeat a defeat that no one had ever thought of before including us as fans
Another fact is controlling the match 75% does not guarantee will win the match Frankfurt can compensate on the counter-attack

Barcelona gained exactly zero experience from this defeat  Wink I assure you next season you will see many more such defeats if Barcelona do not get rid of Xavi.

Frankfurt's match strategy was good so they won. Barcelona is a very strong club. And Frankfurt was aware of Barcelona's match strategy. And they also considered the fact that Barcelona's defense was weak. And so from the start of the match, Frankfurt continued to attack, not allowing Barcelona to create an opportunity to attack. And Frankfurt has taken advantage of the weak defense of Barcelona. That is why they have got the expected results.

Barcelona have a normal defense (theoretically) a problem in Tiki Taka. This outdated strategy involves ball control and high pressure when even the defensive line is very high, as a result of which any transition of the ball to the opponent entails a failure in defense. That's all. Xavi tries to find yesterday, but it's long gone.

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April 16, 2022, 03:49:42 PM
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I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

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Many Frankfurt supporters bought tickets unofficially that's why more than 30000 supporters can enter the stadium even though it should be no more than 15000
Some media say this is one of the factors that affect Frankfurt's game they seem to get more motivated
this can indeed be more motivation for Frankfurt because indeed they are like competing at home in Leg 1 and Leg 2 lol.
On the other hand, this is quite detrimental in my opinion for Barcelona and indeed things like this should immediately be given more attention because I did read some news that the fans from Frankfurt were willing to spend 5 times the usual price to get tickets there. The actions of some of these people indirectly aside from tarnishing the names of Barcelona fans, this is also a bit detrimental to the club in my opinion.

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April 16, 2022, 04:46:42 PM
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After all, any team right now when they have taken the lead even with just one goal, they can change it to be more defensive. But the great thing is, even though they defended they were still able to take advantage of the pass errors and the individual skills of the Barcelona players so they could counter-attack and score goals. In reality Barcelona couldn't score in normal time, as it was absolutely impossible to turn things around and score only in the extra time available. Eintracht Frankfurt can really play discipline in this match, they deserve to go ahead to be able to make a new record in the Europa League which has so far been dominated by teams from La Liga and the EPL.
It is true that Frankfurt should be able to make history in the Europa League. It's just that the next opponent will be quite tough while West Ham will be very tenacious in terms of defense. Frankfurt will have to work hard enough if they really have the motivation to be in the Final. However, seeing West Ham's performance in the Premier League did not go too well. Even some of the matches did not result in a landslide victory.

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April 16, 2022, 06:43:47 PM
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I agree with you Frankfurt could not have won this match otherwise but what the team needed was to make a good defense by scoring at the right time but I think Barcelona's attacks were not effective enough (: The ball always remained with the Barcelona players but after playing with the ball for such a long time we had to see more effective attacking organizations Smiley

If Frankfurt can continue their remarkable match strategy then maybe they can win the Europa League title. Frankfurt's next opponent is West Ham. West Ham are not a weak team. And so Frankfurt must perform well to win. Since Frankfurt is in pretty good form now. And the Frankfurt boys are now much more confident after the win against Barcelona. And so I think they will be able to play well against West Ham as usual.

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April 16, 2022, 06:56:03 PM
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This is football, anything can happen in 90 minutes of a game. it doesn't matter how strong they are how good their players are and their individuality but when playing 90 minutes without cohesiveness and focus there it will only be a loss.
Frankfurt played very well in this match and Barcelona took this too easy so they didn't focus on the defense which Frankfurt did well.
on the other hand, when many people don't think that the expectations of Barcelona in this match are quite large, so when they lose, it is quite natural that many people lose their bets.

If we took this as the norm, then we wouldn't be able to wager on PSG or Bayern in league games neither, nor Barcelona. But when I see them playing against weak teams in the league, I have zero hesitations to wager on them. The difference is that this is an elimination game and usually teams put %100 on the field, in a league format you could lose, you could even relegate, but at the end of the day its 30+ games a year, but when it comes to Europa or UCL, or conference from now on, we are talking about just one game, deciding your faith and that is why we get to see these as shocking results. If we looked at league games, I am sure even the best teams lost or got a draw against weak teams in the league as well but since they win 30 times and do that only a few times, it's not a shock.
need to be seen in this case I never thought this was a normal but in football anything can happen including the defeat of a big team that is very well seeded. it's up to you to think it's bad luck or it's an accident but when you're on the pitch everything depends on strategy and when they lose it means their strategy isn't consistent in the game.
It's not wrong to be in a big team bet that is seeded but when you're there it doesn't mean the bets made will win instantly

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April 16, 2022, 07:19:40 PM
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Frankfurt's game was extraordinary, they were able to apply the same strategy as when playing the 1st leg and even in this 2nd leg they played much more confident because they were able to score a goal in the early minutes.
The counter-attack scheme from Frankfurt was really a bad disaster for Barcelona and also the defense from Frankfurt was very strong and tidy without making the slightest mistake so as not to leave room for Barcelona.
Barcelona is playing their famous tiki-taka style since Xavi came back and he knows that possession means everything and he destroys teams with that in mind. However, Barcelona needs to not get scored for that to work, if they can keep it at 0-0 that means they do not have to attack and just keep the ball until they find a possession that could be worked on and pass correctly.

But, when you score the first goal against Barcelona, that disrupts their system and they work towards scoring a goal which makes their system crumble a lot faster. Frankfurt both played with a very good tactic, but also they were lucky enough to find an early goal that destroy Barcelona's strategy.
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April 16, 2022, 07:39:33 PM
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Is it really a fan? This doesn't reflect a fan I think because it's really bad taking the opportunity to sell at a really high price is really bad.

Well this may not be wrong for sales but do they have to be like this to make a profit there. I really don't understand this way of thinking.
I really don't think this reflects a fan especially for a club as big as Barcelona
Once money becomes more important  than the  passion the system  begins to crumble. Selling  tickets 2-5 times it's  original worth to Frankfurt and having more Frankfurt fans in the stadium  is highly un patriotic.   The more the home fan the more the get cheered to playing for a sure win and the more the away fan the same result  get achieved


This certainly doesn't reflect being a good supporter but on the other hand I think this is only a handful of groups that do this because I still feel that a fan will not harm his own club. in this case like you said when more fans came of course there was a special motivation within the players to win and some media also reported that some of the reasons Frankfurt won was one of them with a lot of fans there

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West Ham - Frankfurt and Leipzig - Rangers. These are the matchups we are going to have in the semi finals. And in my opinion, the favourite teams to advance to the finale are West Ham and Leipzig here. Maybe Frankfurt eliminated Barcelona but they are going to face a much more serious opponent this time. Because West Ham really want to achieve this title to be able to make it to the Champions League group stage. And Rangers are the underdogs against Leipzig too. The German team would find a way to eliminate them nicely.

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April 16, 2022, 08:12:28 PM
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I agree with you Frankfurt could not have won this match otherwise but what the team needed was to make a good defense by scoring at the right time but I think Barcelona's attacks were not effective enough (: The ball always remained with the Barcelona players but after playing with the ball for such a long time we had to see more effective attacking organizations Smiley

If Frankfurt can continue their remarkable match strategy then maybe they can win the Europa League title. Frankfurt's next opponent is West Ham. West Ham are not a weak team. And so Frankfurt must perform well to win. Since Frankfurt is in pretty good form now. And the Frankfurt boys are now much more confident after the win against Barcelona. And so I think they will be able to play well against West Ham as usual.
Frankfurt is playing really amazing at this time. They are so confident to win next match against West Ham. All the players of Frankfurt is on their good form and if they give strong effort, I think they will be able to win against West Ham easily.

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Frankfurt shouldn't be too complacent at all. Because their next opponent isn't going to be a piece of cake for them. West Ham have played really great so far and it was a great joy to watch them against Lyon in the second leg of their draw. As long as West Ham keep up the good work, Frankfurt can be in a really deep trouble against them. It wouldn't matter for West Ham to play home or away against them also. We all witnessed what they did to Lyon in their away match in the end.

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April 16, 2022, 09:28:05 PM
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Frankfurt shouldn't be too complacent at all. Because their next opponent isn't going to be a piece of cake for them. West Ham have played really great so far and it was a great joy to watch them against Lyon in the second leg of their draw. As long as West Ham keep up the good work, Frankfurt can be in a really deep trouble against them. It wouldn't matter for West Ham to play home or away against them also. We all witnessed what they did to Lyon in their away match in the end.
With in local leagues both teams are performing equally but having very good in UEFA Europa Cup is amazing for them both have equal chance for having their best opportunity to qualify for final but here home match is going to be very important for them because this can give any team vital chance for going through into final.

In second round of quarter-final they disrupt Barcelona with their vital goal which was great from them but now here they need to be more energetic as West Ham United is also looking for their best result in European competitions which makes this match very entertaining for both teams fans. With their last round matches, it's very hard to predict about result because both play very good at home and then have better results in away matches which give them chance for this match.

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April 16, 2022, 09:35:17 PM
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Frankfurt shouldn't be too complacent at all. Because their next opponent isn't going to be a piece of cake for them. West Ham have played really great so far and it was a great joy to watch them against Lyon in the second leg of their draw. As long as West Ham keep up the good work, Frankfurt can be in a really deep trouble against them. It wouldn't matter for West Ham to play home or away against them also. We all witnessed what they did to Lyon in their away match in the end.

The difference between Barcelona and West Ham is that it will be much harder to score against a team from the Premier league then Barcelona that is an offensive team. So this will probobly be a low scoring duel and a really hard for both of the teams.  Everybody thinks that Frankfurt knocked out Barcelona and that it will be easy to win the Europe league but it wont

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April 16, 2022, 09:59:40 PM
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I was shocked when I read what happened at the Barcelona game. Officially, Barcelona played a home game, but there were reportedly 30-40,000 spectators from Frankfurt in the stadium. The Barcelona players didn't know what hit them, they let themselves be influenced a lot and in no time the game was over. We can say that this was the worst Barcelona game this year. Learning moment for the club, never again allowing so many spectators from another club.

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Many Frankfurt supporters bought tickets unofficially that's why more than 30000 supporters can enter the stadium even though it should be no more than 15000
Some media say this is one of the factors that affect Frankfurt's game they seem to get more motivated

This should be one of their best game of the season.
Did you see how they played? They held Barcelona very well and hit them with counter attack's.
They did good use of the wings since the midfielder's of Barcelona were very better than them in the game , they also defended very well.

However, at the same time Barcelona were attacking just as well and as you can see the defence did not do very well if allowed to do so, all the more allowing two goals. So I wouldn't make the claim that Barcelona's opponents were much better than the home side. It was just because of those counterattacks that it was interesting to watch the match

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