⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Minor Miner]

Yes, there is always such a possibility that the reserve squad, having more physical strength and great motivation to prove themselves, will play stronger than the main squad, but still, in most cases this does not happen (simply because the main squad is better in all characteristics). Compared to Milan, where the entire club (including analysts and all players) will prepare for this match as for the last (which it really risks becoming), then I doubt that Liverpool will be just as strongly inclined towards an uncompromising game.

Liverpool have now indeed locked their qualification ticket with 15 points, but that doesn't mean it will make Liverpool play less serious in their last match against Milan, I think Liverpool will still be aiming for a win in that match to complete their journey this season, but as you can see say, maybe they will field some substitutes and save their core players, but that doesn't mean  will be an easy match for milan, because I think liverpool reserves player will play all out to show their prowess in that match, other than that I see if the reserve squad owned by liverpool is no less great with the quality possessed by their current main team.

I think that Liverpool should play some of their bench players or maybe reserve players who need to have some playtime. As they have already qualified for the next stage and I don't think they will sweat it against Milan. But I still don't think that the match will be e even a little easier for Milan. Milan has to give it their best and not think about Liverpool taking it easy on them.

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[babo]

AC Milan managed to get their first win in the Champions League and this allowed them to breathe a little easier before facing Liverpool in the last match, the victory against Atletico Madrid made their chances of qualifying for the last 16 slightly open, because later they only needed to beat Liverpool and hope if Atletico Madrid drew with Porto, but if Porto manages to beat Athletico, of course AC Milan will only be in third position, but if AC Milan wins against Liverpool and Athletico beats Porto, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid qualification will be determined by head to head or difference goals later.

yes but let's reflect, when you hope to go to the next round, because your opponent has to lose
you're not in very good shape

that is, in my opinion, even if it passes, it will be eliminated later .. much to my chagrin (obviously I'm not happy)

[BALIK]

After four weeks of having no victory, Milan have finally got their first one against Atletico Madrid in the away match. They were the far better side just as they were like this in the match in Italy until getting a red card. This time, the scenario wasn't the same and Milan finally found a goal in the last minutes and won by 1-0. And as Liverpool beat Porto by 2-0 too, Milan are only one point away from the 2nd place. By the way, they have taken the 3rd place from Atletico Madrid after defeating them.
As for the last group matches, there are Porto v Atletico Madrid and Milan v Liverpool matches. The excitement level is going to be really high. And I would really like to see Milan advancing to the next round.

AC Milan managed to get their first win in the Champions League and this allowed them to breathe a little easier before facing Liverpool in the last match, the victory against Atletico Madrid made their chances of qualifying for the last 16 slightly open, because later they only needed to beat Liverpool and hope if Atletico Madrid drew with Porto, but if Porto manages to beat Athletico, of course AC Milan will only be in third position, but if AC Milan wins against Liverpool and Athletico beats Porto, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid qualification will be determined by head to head or difference goals later.

AC Milan should get ready to face Liverpool and think about how they are going to beat them. It will not be an easy task by any means. But they have to make a plan and stick to it. Liverpool is currently in great form so it will be a lot harder for AC Milan to beat them.
As far as Atletico Madrid vs Porto is concerned, I think Atletico Madrid will win that and if that happens then AC Milan has a real good chance of qualifying.

[Ebede]

I don't like how Athletico Madrid are playing lately, getting bad results at the end of it all,they would win a game and get back to square one lossing vital games.
They be having less injured players at the moment, could it be from the current tactics or what ??
I don't see them getting a qualification for the next round.

[Altryist]

Oh yeah that makes sense, I didn't think before of course Liverpool don't want to take the risk but we'll see if Liverpool play with the second squad or the main squad
Regarding Porto I believe they can qualify because they have some advantages. Let's wait for the next match.

I think Milan has a better chance of beating Liverpool than Porto beating Atletico. It just so happened that Liverpool no longer need this game and everyone understands this, and Atletico after the defeat at home from Milan will be very well tuned in to the game, I am confident after Simione in the locker room after the match, told them everything that he thinks about the players.

[Newlifebtc]

Who's taking good note of the statistics of Cristiano Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandez ??
Sine the start of the Champions League, Ronaldo has scored in all of the games,five goals in total.
Bruno Fernandez has assisted five times in all of the five game's in the Champions League.
This duo's are Superb.

[rahmad2nd]

After four weeks of having no victory, Milan have finally got their first one against Atletico Madrid in the away match. They were the far better side just as they were like this in the match in Italy until getting a red card. This time, the scenario wasn't the same and Milan finally found a goal in the last minutes and won by 1-0. And as Liverpool beat Porto by 2-0 too, Milan are only one point away from the 2nd place. By the way, they have taken the 3rd place from Atletico Madrid after defeating them.

As for the last group matches, there are Porto v Atletico Madrid and Milan v Liverpool matches. The excitement level is going to be really high. And I would really like to see Milan advancing to the next round.

AC Milan managed to get their first win in the Champions League and this allowed them to breathe a little easier before facing Liverpool in the last match, the victory against Atletico Madrid made their chances of qualifying for the last 16 slightly open, because later they only needed to beat Liverpool and hope if Atletico Madrid drew with Porto, but if Porto manages to beat Athletico, of course AC Milan will only be in third position, but if AC Milan wins against Liverpool and Athletico beats Porto, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid qualification will be determined by head to head or difference goals later.

Porto, Milan and Atlético Madrid have the same opportunity in their last match - each club to ensure qualifying as second place to accompany Liverpool who successfully came out as group winners. AC Milan will face a life and death match and must get the full three points against Liverpool, but on the other hand the match between Porto vs Atletico Madrid must end in a draw or Atletico win.

[bestcoins1]

After four weeks of having no victory, Milan have finally got their first one against Atletico Madrid in the away match. They were the far better side just as they were like this in the match in Italy until getting a red card. This time, the scenario wasn't the same and Milan finally found a goal in the last minutes and won by 1-0. And as Liverpool beat Porto by 2-0 too, Milan are only one point away from the 2nd place. By the way, they have taken the 3rd place from Atletico Madrid after defeating them.

As for the last group matches, there are Porto v Atletico Madrid and Milan v Liverpool matches. The excitement level is going to be really high. And I would really like to see Milan advancing to the next round.

AC Milan managed to get their first win in the Champions League and this allowed them to breathe a little easier before facing Liverpool in the last match, the victory against Atletico Madrid made their chances of qualifying for the last 16 slightly open, because later they only needed to beat Liverpool and hope if Atletico Madrid drew with Porto, but if Porto manages to beat Athletico, of course AC Milan will only be in third position, but if AC Milan wins against Liverpool and Athletico beats Porto, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid qualification will be determined by head to head or difference goals later.

Porto, Milan and Atlético Madrid have the same opportunity in their last match - each club to ensure qualifying as second place to accompany Liverpool who successfully came out as group winners. AC Milan will face a life and death match and must get the full three points against Liverpool, but on the other hand the match between Porto vs Atletico Madrid must end in a draw or Atletico win.

Only luck that can help Milan and Atletico Madrid to be able to qualify for the next stage while Porto is included in a safe position
Milan must have difficulty defeating Liverpool and Atletico cannot do much while playing away in such condition it should be a boon for porto

[skarais]

Only luck that can help Milan and Atletico Madrid to be able to qualify for the next stage while Porto is included in a safe position
Milan must have difficulty defeating Liverpool and Atletico cannot do much while playing away in such condition it should be a boon for porto

Don't underestimate Atletico Madrid because I don't think they still have a chance to win the last game vs Porto just to qualify for the next round. Although I doubt AC Milan, these three team still have a chance to qualify for the round of 16 and the fight for 1 ticket will be very stressful in the last match. Liverpool are hard to beat, so Milan have only the smallest chance of qualifying compared to Atletico Madrid or Porto. I support Atletico Madrid to qualify, they look worthy to be given the chance to get to the next round.

[KTChampions]

Yes, there is always such a possibility that the reserve squad, having more physical strength and great motivation to prove themselves, will play stronger than the main squad, but still, in most cases this does not happen (simply because the main squad is better in all characteristics). Compared to Milan, where the entire club (including analysts and all players) will prepare for this match as for the last (which it really risks becoming), then I doubt that Liverpool will be just as strongly inclined towards an uncompromising game.

Liverpool have now indeed locked their qualification ticket with 15 points, but that doesn't mean it will make Liverpool play less serious in their last match against Milan, I think Liverpool will still be aiming for a win in that match to complete their journey this season, but as you can see say, maybe they will field some substitutes and save their core players, but that doesn't mean  will be an easy match for milan, because I think liverpool reserves player will play all out to show their prowess in that match, other than that I see if the reserve squad owned by liverpool is no less great with the quality possessed by their current main team.

If you look at the EPL schedule, the relaxed play mode in the last round of the Champions League group stage will probably become more obvious to you. Liverpool will play Wolverhampton on December 4th and Aston Villa on December 11th. Given the fact that Liverpool has all the chances to become champions this year, what is the point of wasting precious energy in an unnecessary match on December 7th?

[maju69]

Who's taking good note of the statistics of Cristiano Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandez ??
Sine the start of the Champions League, Ronaldo has scored in all of the games,five goals in total.
Bruno Fernandez has assisted five times in all of the five game's in the Champions League.
This duo's are Superb.

But is that enough to prepare them for Chelsea? Hopefully it can happen again or it will be very difficult to repeat something. In front of them are players who are ready to perform optimally in all sides of attack and structured strategy. Meanwhile, Manchester United are still discussing how to go forward regarding the manager, who also has no legal agreement. The Manchester United camp was not only focused on the game but on the management of the Manager who barely found the final match.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

If you look at the EPL schedule, the relaxed play mode in the last round of the Champions League group stage will probably become more obvious to you. Liverpool will play Wolverhampton on December 4th and Aston Villa on December 11th. Given the fact that Liverpool has all the chances to become champions this year, what is the point of wasting precious energy in an unnecessary match on December 7th?

Actually there is no such thing as wasting energy it's just that they don't want to risk getting injured, Resting the main players is not a good idea because there are negative impacts they can still be played but with a shorter duration for example substitutions in the last minute between in 80-90 minutes or can play in the first half or the 2nd half.

[Spack17]

I watched the Manchester City v PSG match and it was quite good. I would have liked to see a better PSG in this match but I understand them too as it is really tough to have the control against Manchester City in Etihad. Manchester City had the control of the game most of the time and won by 2-1. PSG caught them by surprise as they scored first. But Manchester City still didn't back down of course and it was a well-deserved win. Congrats to them!

[EdenHazard]

If you look at the EPL schedule, the relaxed play mode in the last round of the Champions League group stage will probably become more obvious to you. Liverpool will play Wolverhampton on December 4th and Aston Villa on December 11th. Given the fact that Liverpool has all the chances to become champions this year, what is the point of wasting precious energy in an unnecessary match on December 7th?

Actually there is no such thing as wasting energy it's just that they don't want to risk getting injured, Resting the main players is not a good idea because there are negative impacts they can still be played but with a shorter duration for example substitutions in the last minute between in 80-90 minutes or can play in the first half or the 2nd half.

Imagine a key player subbed in 80' and get tackled so hard at 85' and have to miss for the next 5-6 weeks.

of course you can , but a risk is a risk. to play for 90 minutes or just 5 minutes still has a risk and if i were the manager i would treat that kind match as a friendly match by using players that havent match minutes enough.
everyone know that strategy would be used in these kind cases , period.

[terrorJR]

Yes, there is always such a possibility that the reserve squad, having more physical strength and great motivation to prove themselves, will play stronger than the main squad, but still, in most cases this does not happen (simply because the main squad is better in all characteristics). Compared to Milan, where the entire club (including analysts and all players) will prepare for this match as for the last (which it really risks becoming), then I doubt that Liverpool will be just as strongly inclined towards an uncompromising game.

Liverpool have now indeed locked their qualification ticket with 15 points, but that doesn't mean it will make Liverpool play less serious in their last match against Milan, I think Liverpool will still be aiming for a win in that match to complete their journey this season, but as you can see say, maybe they will field some substitutes and save their core players, but that doesn't mean  will be an easy match for milan, because I think liverpool reserves player will play all out to show their prowess in that match, other than that I see if the reserve squad owned by liverpool is no less great with the quality possessed by their current main team.

If you look at the EPL schedule, the relaxed play mode in the last round of the Champions League group stage will probably become more obvious to you. Liverpool will play Wolverhampton on December 4th and Aston Villa on December 11th. Given the fact that Liverpool has all the chances to become champions this year, what is the point of wasting precious energy in an unnecessary match on December 7th?

I like your parable. It's true that it's like that because this match is quite important for them, on the other hand the match against AC Milan has no effect on them regardless of losing or winning they will still qualify and become champions in the group.
I think something like this is very good to be used as a rotation of players because there are indeed a lot of players who are lacking in playing minutes and Liverpool will definitely replace some of the core players with their ranks.
in addition to reducing the risk of unwanted things, this is also good for making players more fit

[BIT-BENDER]

But is that enough to prepare them for Chelsea? Hopefully it can happen again or it will be very difficult to repeat something. In front of them are players who are ready to perform optimally in all sides of attack and structured strategy. Meanwhile, Manchester United are still discussing how to go forward regarding the manager, who also has no legal agreement. The Manchester United camp was not only focused on the game but on the management of the Manager who barely found the final match.

Players like lewandowski, muller, kante, jorginho, salah, mane, foden, benzema and other love to play everytime, I think every player that has passion for the game would want to play always, so I think if injuries are the causalities of football and the aim of football is winning matches then if those players are fit you ought to play them, so many players don't necessarily get injured during matches but sometimes during training.

[Pulsar77]

I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

I'm not sure about the Europa League to be honest. The reason why I think like this is that Dortmund may not be very eager to fight for winning a lower-quality European tournament much. The main focus of big and prominent teams like Dortmund is winning the Champions League title. But when they fail and move down to the Europa League, they start making a less effort generally. But who knows, maybe I will be wrong about them and they will win that title by putting a great effort in each game they are going to have.

[BuNga_cute]

I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

I'm not sure about the Europa League to be honest. The reason why I think like this is that Dortmund may not be very eager to fight for winning a lower-quality European tournament much. The main focus of big and prominent teams like Dortmund is winning the Champions League title. But when they fail and move down to the Europa League, they start making a less effort generally. But who knows, maybe I will be wrong about them and they will win that title by putting a great effort in each game they are going to have.

I think all the teams that played in the Champions League before, and ended up having to play in the Europa League. They will definitely be
disappointed and their efforts will decrease, they realize winning the Europa League is not as proud as winning the Champions League. But that
does not mean that the team from the Champions League has no desire to win the Europa League trophy, because after all getting a trophy is good,
but the effort will definitely not be as big as when playing in the Champions League competition. Therefore, many star players when choosing
a new club, usually prioritize teams that have a history of winning the Champions League trophy. That's so magnificent the Champions League trophy,
we can also see how PSG have brought in many star players this season, that's because their main target this season is to win the Champions
League trophy. That is the fact that the Champions League is the highest quality competition in Europa.

[AndySt]

I think all the teams that played in the Champions League before, and ended up having to play in the Europa League. They will definitely be disappointed and their efforts will decrease, they realize winning the Europa League is not as proud as winning the Champions League. But that does not mean that the team from the Champions League has no desire to win the Europa League trophy, because after all getting a trophy is good,
but the effort will definitely not be as big as when playing in the Champions League competition. Therefore, many star players when choosing a new club, usually prioritize teams that have a history of winning the Champions League trophy. That's so magnificent the Champions League trophy, we can also see how PSG have brought in many star players this season, that's because their main target this season is to win the Champions League trophy. That is the fact that the Champions League is the highest quality competition in Europa.

I personally am not sure that clubs like Borussia Dortmund have serious chances to win the Champions League at all, so it is a little strange to hear arguments that such a club, after leaving the Champions League, will not play with such great diligence in the Europa League. Therefore, it is one thing to talk about the disappointments of relegation from the Champions League of a club like Paris Saint-Germain or Barcelona, despite the serious condition of the club itself, and quite another to talk about the current Borussia Dortmund, whose goal by and large is to prepare players for resale to big clubs and stable participation in European competitions in order to show these players to potential buyers.

[icopress]

I think all the teams that played in the Champions League before, and ended up having to play in the Europa League. They will definitely be
disappointed and their efforts will decrease, they realize winning the Europa League is not as proud as winning the Champions League.  [...]

This is not entirely true, and I will explain why ... every year the same teams get into the Champions League for the most part, but the level of leagues in different countries is very different, so 90% of the teams that constantly play in the Champions League never win or even are getting closer to victory.

For example, Shakhtar Donetsk and Dinamy kiev have been qualifying for many years, but in the table they always occupy the last line simply because this is not their level. It's another matter when Shakhtar got into the Europa League and won the title, then all of Ukraine and even their worst enemy Dynamo Kiev wholeheartedly shared the joy of victory with them. The structure of the Champions League is not perfect, and the gap between the world's top clubs and mediocre teams will only increase over time.