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May 13, 2022, 02:05:06 PM
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Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
because Madrid's old players have composure and experience on the pitch. Moreover, for this final, Madrid will certainly overcome the pace of the Liverpool players with their tactics.
Madrid also has a decent mix of young players. The combination of experience, composure, and speed of the young players to date has given Madrid strength in facing important matches.
I don't think which team is better. because both teams are the best at the moment. both deserve to be at the top of the fight. it will provide great entertainment for us.
We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.

Liverpool needs to remember that they have to contain Benzema. Otherwise, they will have a bigger problem because there's a lot in a crate form right now and I really don't see Benzema being out of touch in the champions league final.

Another thing is they have to remember that Manchester City did a great job of not letting Benzema have a very good match but Real Madrid still managed to win that match.  And Real Madrid also needs to be careful that they are defending is not the greatest and Liverpool is surely going to try to exploit that.

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Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
because Madrid's old players have composure and experience on the pitch. Moreover, for this final, Madrid will certainly overcome the pace of the Liverpool players with their tactics.
Madrid also has a decent mix of young players. The combination of experience, composure, and speed of the young players to date has given Madrid strength in facing important matches.
I don't think which team is better. because both teams are the best at the moment. both deserve to be at the top of the fight. it will provide great entertainment for us.
We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.

Liverpool needs to remember that they have to contain Benzema. Otherwise, they will have a bigger problem because there's a lot in a crate form right now and I really don't see Benzema being out of touch in the champions league final.

Another thing is they have to remember that Manchester City did a great job of not letting Benzema have a very good match but Real Madrid still managed to win that match.  And Real Madrid also needs to be careful that they are defending is not the greatest and Liverpool is surely going to try to exploit that.

I think Liverpool will be much more carefull then Man City but they wont be so dominant as Man City was in those two matches. Real Madrid will have a chance to win the match and have more space then in the match against City. Liverpool is looking for the revenge from last time they played in the champions league final

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May 13, 2022, 02:24:01 PM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
All the Real Madrid supporters would say they pride team will win the final game, as well as supporters of Liverpool, would have said Liverpool was able to overcome Real Madrid in the final.
Real Madrid and Liverpool have good statistics in the Champions League, both are also very difficult to beat. The Champions League final is eagerly awaited by all football fans, especially in this final which will bring together two big teams.
At least we can't forget about Liverpool's performance in the domestic league as well, with the competition being tough in the domestic league but Liverpool being able to reach the Champions League final it's definitely a great performance they can put up so far. So, even though Real Madrid are the reigning kings of the Champions League title but sometimes they also have times where they get the hardest point to win. But indeed, so far in the Champions League at least Real Madrid have really proven their quality, but I still believe the final match will still be difficult for both of them.

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If not a possible injury to any one of their key players Liverpool playing competitive EPL every week prior to their UCL final against Real Madrid is a welcome development, though it's a bit risky, however it will enable their players to be more fitter and in-form, Real Madrid players might have too much rest after winning the Laliga trophy which can be counterproductive, however I think it's better Real Madrid allow their players to play few games this will also enable their players to be competitive ready for their final match against Liverpool.
Real Madrid did not rest players for a long time, I mean the rotation was done to the starting players and did not play full in every remaining match before the Champions League Final, regarding their fitness and stamina they must be maintained with special training and supervision, they are also played in the remaining matches yesterday, Karim Benzema and Luka Modrid even scored against Levante, so the rotation issue is just a matter of balancing and not playing full time for the rest of the match

@mumang siat, in case you didn't know, actually Liverpool have got the trophy this season and it's the Carabao Cup. Also, that way there is still a chance for Liverpool to get another trophy, Liverpool still has the chance to get the EPL trophy, FA Cup and also, Champions League. I personally hope Liverpool can get all that but if not, at least Liverpool have proven that this season Liverpool is really great because they are candidates for the title in several different tournaments.
That's true, but I mean the English league trophy and the Champions League, because we are discussing this league, I doubt Liverpool can win all the titles, if they don't focus on one of them, the problem is they face Real Madrid, it's a different story if Liverpool don't play Real Madrid in the Final, that's why I said I doubt all the targets you mentioned
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May 13, 2022, 02:36:09 PM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
It's more difficult than we imagined, even from a few games they are believed to end their competition in the Champions League. But they proved that they are a team that can't be just thrown away, even by a team whose quality can be said to be the same as theirs. They have been the superior team in the Champions League.

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May 13, 2022, 02:44:39 PM
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exact! I totally agree with you
that's why I think Real Madrid wins this final
I'm sure? Not at all
but if I have to choose between the two a possible winner for me that is Real Madrid, that's it
I don't bet on it
We won't see the best chances until we look at the line-ups of both teams for the final. So far Madrid has been favored a lot because of the history and the star players in the team. as well as the highly prolific Liverpool duo, Mane and Salah.
however, some problems that a team can experience during important matches can occur. like losing a key player in a team that can't be used due to injury.
I would bet on this match, but not to see the bookie analysis and offers for now.
Many have looked at historical opportunities I know Real Madrid has many titles and is dubbed the king of the UCL, but this time I have a different choice and Liverpool is my best bet, with the duo Mane and Mohsalah I believe Liverpool can provide an interesting game and also give a win UCL champions this season, judging by the statistics, Liverpool players have full strength and their players are very productive, of course we will look forward to this game more and more ahead of the match.

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May 13, 2022, 02:46:39 PM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
It's more difficult than we imagined, even from a few games they are believed to end their competition in the Champions League. But they proved that they are a team that can't be just thrown away, even by a team whose quality can be said to be the same as theirs. They have been the superior team in the Champions League.
Comeback in the matches against PSG and Man City proves Real Madrid is very serious in the Champions League, Real Madrid has earned a ticket to the final, some football fans will say Real Madrid can repeat their success in the 2018 Champions League final. Liverpool also has ambitions of revenge on Real Madrid, Jurgen Klopp has learned from Liverpool's failure in 2018, this final Klopp will try to make up for their failure at that time.

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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
It's more difficult than we imagined, even from a few games they are believed to end their competition in the Champions League. But they proved that they are a team that can't be just thrown away, even by a team whose quality can be said to be the same as theirs. They have been the superior team in the Champions League.
Comeback in the matches against PSG and Man City proves Real Madrid is very serious in the Champions League, Real Madrid has earned a ticket to the final, some football fans will say Real Madrid can repeat their success in the 2018 Champions League final. Liverpool also has ambitions of revenge on Real Madrid, Jurgen Klopp has learned from Liverpool's failure in 2018, this final Klopp will try to make up for their failure at that time.
Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are equally strong teams and I think they both have the same chance to win the Champions League. However, if I had to choose, my choice would be with Real Madrid because I think Real Madrid is much more prepared for that final. Currently, Real Madrid is already a La Liga winner, so practically they can save a lot of energy in the remaining La Liga matches. While Liverpool still has to keep fighting in the title race and of course this will really drain their concentration and their physical fitness.

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May 13, 2022, 03:14:35 PM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
It's more difficult than we imagined, even from a few games they are believed to end their competition in the Champions League. But they proved that they are a team that can't be just thrown away, even by a team whose quality can be said to be the same as theirs. They have been the superior team in the Champions League.
I agree with you that they are very good when it comes to the champions league final,but I know one thing,and that is the fact that Liverpool have strong legs,that are very combative and are ready to make that game a do or die affair.They have the best front four in Europe,which are,Salah,Mane,Firminho,and Diego Jota.They are the people controlling the team,and those four players are very difficult to stop.Atleast,you can't stop all of them if you are able to stop one or two. 
The match is not going to be easy at all,because I so much believe that Liverpool will win that match despite the record that Real Madrid have in the champions league final.Beating them will not be hard for Liverpool at all.
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Our wait for the final match is still quite long. We will still be shown the performances of the two teams in their domestic league and that will of course be a benchmark for us to see how far Real Madrid and Liverpool prepare for this important match. What I'm worried about is that their main players can't be used in that match and hinder the game scheme they will implement.

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May 13, 2022, 03:33:44 PM
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Liverpool needs to remember that they have to contain Benzema. Otherwise, they will have a bigger problem because there's a lot in a crate form right now and I really don't see Benzema being out of touch in the champions league final.

Another thing is they have to remember that Manchester City did a great job of not letting Benzema have a very good match but Real Madrid still managed to win that match.  And Real Madrid also needs to be careful that they are defending is not the greatest and Liverpool is surely going to try to exploit that.
Benzema is a very effective player in front of opponents but Liverpool have Van Dijk as a strong defense and an ideal body, so I think the defense needs to be paid attention to because this is an important fortress that Liverpool must pay attention to because we know Benzema always finds goal opportunities in any way it must be on the alert for Liverpool's defensive game.

In my prediction, Liverpool will definitely control the ball, but on the other hand, Real Madrid will look for gaps from Liverpool's carelessness, Madrid, if there is an opportunity, it will be very dangerous. Of course, there are still many speculations that their game will still be interesting for me pleasure.

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May 13, 2022, 04:30:20 PM
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Liverpool needs to remember that they have to contain Benzema. Otherwise, they will have a bigger problem because there's a lot in a crate form right now and I really don't see Benzema being out of touch in the champions league final.

Another thing is they have to remember that Manchester City did a great job of not letting Benzema have a very good match but Real Madrid still managed to win that match.  And Real Madrid also needs to be careful that they are defending is not the greatest and Liverpool is surely going to try to exploit that.
Benzema is a very effective player in front of opponents but Liverpool have Van Dijk as a strong defense and an ideal body, so I think the defense needs to be paid attention to because this is an important fortress that Liverpool must pay attention to because we know Benzema always finds goal opportunities in any way it must be on the alert for Liverpool's defensive game.

In my prediction, Liverpool will definitely control the ball, but on the other hand, Real Madrid will look for gaps from Liverpool's carelessness, Madrid, if there is an opportunity, it will be very dangerous. Of course, there are still many speculations that their game will still be interesting for me pleasure.
Even now, it is still difficult for me to make a choice between Liverpool and Madrid. Everything is pretty much even for now, Liverpool have a strong defence, but Madrid have a goalkeeper who is quite difficult to break. This means that each has the same portion of defense. In terms of attacking the front lines are also equally balanced, Benzema and Vini are the ideal pair. Modric skill is always agile in every midfield.

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May 13, 2022, 04:33:28 PM
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It's something that will happen to both groups of supporters, each will say that they are the best and will win the game. I personally find it difficult to say who will win, I position myself as a neutral person not supporting any team. Indeed, what I see is difficult to predict what the final result of this match will be.

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May 13, 2022, 04:40:13 PM
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It will be another interesting finals between this two sides, the last time they met, Real Madrid wrapped things up with Zidane as head Coach.
Liverpool has loopholes despite them having a great season, I am reflecting on the game against Villarreal, at most in the first half.
Thiago was shielded from distribution of forward passes, if Real Madrid can do that and close down Arnold and Robertson, then they can successfully win the finals once more.
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Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are equally strong teams and I think they both have the same chance to win the Champions League. However, if I had to choose, my choice would be with Real Madrid because I think Real Madrid is much more prepared for that final. Currently, Real Madrid is already a La Liga winner, so practically they can save a lot of energy in the remaining La Liga matches. While Liverpool still has to keep fighting in the title race and of course this will really drain their concentration and their physical fitness.
Both teams both have enough time before facing this final even though Liverpool actually has a concentration that is divided between the FA Cup final, the Premier League and also the Champions League.

Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

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May 13, 2022, 04:52:42 PM
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Southampton have a German Coach, and they play almost the same pattern as Liverpool.
High pressing and counter attack's from wingers and right and left ( full backs ).
Wolves are also another stubborn side but Liverpool always seem to get a win after everything.

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May 13, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
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It makes sense that Liverpool are more focused on the Champions League, because they are a bit behind Manchester City and need a miracle to turn things around at the moment. Plus Manchester City are also increasingly consistent with their appearance to be able to become champions. And it's true that Real Madrid are more relaxed in the domestic league, because they have locked the title.
That is the difference in current conditions for the two teams who are already in the Champions League final, so that everyone can make a little prediction of who will win in the Champions League final, because it is always related to mentality, experience, and focus. Likewise with the coach and the players in each team, because that also needs to be seen in order to compete very well in the Champions League final this season.
Because apart from the strategy, the mental readiness of the players is also very important now because this will definitely affect self-confidence which can make a difference in the course of the match.
but this is the last game there is no reason for both teams to hold back because this could be a regret at the end

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May 13, 2022, 05:22:55 PM
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Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

Liverpool's schedule is still very busy. They are still trying to win the Premier League title. At the same time, the FA Cup match against Chelsea is very important for Liverpool. Having consistently performed well in every match, I doubt if Liverpool will do well in the Champions League final. If any of Liverpool's key players get injured before the Champions League final, then winning the final will be challenging for Liverpool.

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May 13, 2022, 05:29:07 PM
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Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are equally strong teams and I think they both have the same chance to win the Champions League. However, if I had to choose, my choice would be with Real Madrid because I think Real Madrid is much more prepared for that final. Currently, Real Madrid is already a La Liga winner, so practically they can save a lot of energy in the remaining La Liga matches. While Liverpool still has to keep fighting in the title race and of course this will really drain their concentration and their physical fitness.
for this final match I'm more neutral, both teams have a 50:50 chance to win this season's UCL...

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"We will play 4-3-3 and then we can move on to 4-4-2. There is no fixed system. To put pressure on defensive midfielders, we did it against City. We started with 4-3-3 and then I put Modric to aim for Rodri and we went 4-4-1-1," Ancelotti said of the formation in the Champions League final.
source from Madrid's official website.

I don't know if this is a trick from ancelotti to trick Klopp and think he will use the formation above because actually the strategy is very secret and should not be arbitrarily disclosed.



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May 13, 2022, 05:35:16 PM
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Liverpool have a Final match today against Chelsea and then have to finish their fight for the Premier League in the next 2 matches before they are 100% ready for the Champions League final. The FA Cup final against Chelsea will be exhausting, but against Southampton and Wolves it may not be.

Liverpool's schedule is still very busy. They are still trying to win the Premier League title. At the same time, the FA Cup match against Chelsea is very important for Liverpool. Having consistently performed well in every match, I doubt if Liverpool will do well in the Champions League final. If any of Liverpool's key players get injured before the Champions League final, then winning the final will be challenging for Liverpool.
Besides that, now the news from their mainstay defender, Fabinho, is still unconfirmed whether his injury is serious or not. this will be a serious loss for them if at the end of the season they have to lose their anchor players because the match they will face is a game that is quite important now.
this will definitely make klopp think hard.

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