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May 23, 2022, 04:36:01 PM
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Liverpool is obviously a team with a better squad,
but what I think is that Real Madrid is going to try to play as aggressively as they can in the last 10 minutes.
If Liverpool can do something about that I think they are good. I don't think Real Madrid will always be attacking in the match. 
But, I hope Liverpool will reserve some energy to face the initial onslaught in the last 10 minutes from Real Madrid.

Liverpool saved some key players yesterday,they just made Salah enter to play the last 25 minutes or a bit more.Also the other players were not playing at full power against Wolves and they had somewhat of a difficulty to win the match but in the end they did.I think is done intentionally from Klopp as Liverpool full focus is now on the Champions League.I think they will have a very difficult game against Real Madrid but it looks like they will give it all and knowing their fans behind them I am optimistic that they can win this trophy.
Klopp, of course, saved his players for the Champions League final, and although Liverpool were not going to lose to the vlocks, they understood that City had to win their match. Liverpool have the most important game of the season ahead of them and I think Liverpool will win. Real Madrid is a very strong team, but Liverpool are definitely stronger now and the odds of the bookmakers confirm this. Liverpool are faster and more creative and they have a lot of good forwards, and Real Madrid have all hope for Benzema.

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May 23, 2022, 04:46:54 PM
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But I think there might be a little disappointment with Liverpool if Liverpool fails to win the Champions League Trophy.
Losing out on the EPL title to City puts a bit of pressure on Liverpool to be honest, yes i know they have won two trophies this season, but let us be honest, they are both domestic cups, the major trophies are the EPL and the CL, City took the former from them, and they have to battle Madrid for the latter in a few days time, if they lose, they are definitely going to be disappointed, it does not imply they had a bad season, not at all, what it just means is that their performances deserved much better.

Having said that, a big congratulations to City, what a way to win the league, i thought it was going to be a pretty straightforward victory, but i was wrong, i think City like to win in dramatic fashion, and they did the same again yesterday, just as they did some ten years ago; over to next season, with Haaland now in the team, things can only get much better.

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May 23, 2022, 04:55:09 PM
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We have prepared preparations for the Finals from now on. Some places to watch have been explored little by little. This became a live betting arena with many people. I, as the committee, am certainly quite excited because until now the applicants for betting between Real Madrid and Liverpool are almost balanced.
Our response to this final phenomenon is very different from usual, so it's a bit more fanatical of the pitch among fans.  Grin

It is going to be a great final and I hope this match leaves up to the hype and expectation that it has created. I think Real Madrid has a very good chance of winning because their player had a good amount of rest before the final. But on the other hand, I believe Liverpool has a better squad and after losing the English Premier League title to Manchester City they will be really concentrated and determined to win the final.

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May 23, 2022, 05:12:30 PM
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We have prepared preparations for the Finals from now on. Some places to watch have been explored little by little. This became a live betting arena with many people. I, as the committee, am certainly quite excited because until now the applicants for betting between Real Madrid and Liverpool are almost balanced.
Our response to this final phenomenon is very different from usual, so it's a bit more fanatical of the pitch among fans.  Grin

It is going to be a great final and I hope this match leaves up to the hype and expectation that it has created. I think Real Madrid has a very good chance of winning because their player had a good amount of rest before the final. But on the other hand, I believe Liverpool has a better squad and after losing the English Premier League title to Manchester City they will be really concentrated and determined to win the final.

Yes, Liverpool is obviously going to be a lot more determined to win the champions league now after they have lost the English Premier League title to Manchester City. But suddenly a doubt is creeping into my mind that Manchester City has lost against Real Madrid in the Champions League and Liverpool lost the English Premier League title to Manchester City. So in this equation, Liverpool seems to be a little inferior compared to Real Madrid. So, will they be able to beat Real Madrid is the actual question?

Manchester City have played really well in the English Premier League as well as in the Champions League but they did not concentrate in the later stages of the match against Real Madrid and that lapse of concentration cost them very big.

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May 23, 2022, 05:41:03 PM
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But I think there might be a little disappointment with Liverpool if Liverpool fails to win the Champions League Trophy.
Losing out on the EPL title to City puts a bit of pressure on Liverpool to be honest, yes i know they have won two trophies this season, but let us be honest, they are both domestic cups, the major trophies are the EPL and the CL, City took the former from them, and they have to battle Madrid for the latter in a few days time, if they lose, they are definitely going to be disappointed, it does not imply they had a bad season, not at all, what it just means is that their performances deserved much better.

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Klopp has stated that the players and management have forgotten about the EPL and will only focus on the UCL final. although Pep Guardiola said that the UCL is not that important but in fact all the great teams in europe really want the UCL trophy. protracted by losing the EPL to man city will only disrupt liverpool's performance in the final later, they must be satisfied with the result and immediately release it.
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May 23, 2022, 05:45:18 PM
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The match is over between Liverpool and Wolves and Liverpool easily won the match. The score is 3-1  in favor of Liverpool. The wolves broke the deadlock by scoring in the third minute of the match. to be honest it was a little surprising but Liverpool came back and did very well. Salah played as a substitute in that match. Van Dijk was in the subs but he was not brought on.
Liverpool have tried to get a good result against Wolves, but the positive results obtained by Liverpool failed to bring them to the Premier League trophy because in another match Manchester City also won over their opponent.
Now Liverpool can focus 100% on the UCL final, Liverpool can use the same strategy against Real Madrid. Liverpool's performance looks very good in their last match, Real Madrid must be able to reduce attacks from Liverpool players to keep their goal which is guarded by Courtois from conceding.
Liverpool's motivation to win the UEFA Champions League increased after failing to win the Premier League even though in the last match Liverpool had played a very good game but for the champion to be determined by another match, in the UCL Liverpool had to prove themselves mentally, physically, and the strategy had to go well because Real Madrid is not a random club in the UEFA Champions League.

Yes, it is true now Liverpool is going to be a lot more determined to win the Champions League title. but what I am fearful about is that Real Madrid already beat Manchester city which has won the English Premier League and was ahead of Liverpool in the Premier League standings. So will Liverpool be able to do something that it is the superior team could not?

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May 23, 2022, 06:03:06 PM
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It is going to be a great final and I hope this match leaves up to the hype and expectation that it has created. I think Real Madrid has a very good chance of winning because their player had a good amount of rest before the final. But on the other hand, I believe Liverpool has a better squad and after losing the English Premier League title to Manchester City they will be really concentrated and determined to win the final.

When Klopp first arrived, he said he would turn doubters into believers. It is quite obvious that Liverpool  has done well this season with VVD, Fabinho, Mane, Salah, and later Diaz. They have been a strong team from front to back and at one time had the most goals in the league and better GD than City. I believe that Liverpool will get their long awaited revenge against Real Madrid and win that game too.

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May 23, 2022, 06:07:57 PM
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When Klopp first arrived, he said he would turn doubters into believers. It is quite obvious that Liverpool  has done well this season with VVD, Fabinho, Mane, Salah, and later Diaz. They have been a strong team from front to back and at one time had the most goals in the league and better GD than City. I believe that Liverpool will get their long awaited revenge against Real Madrid and win that game too.

As a team, Real Madrid is not stronger, also as a coach, Klopp is much better. But when it comes to the finals, we see how superior Real Madrid is. Benzema does his show again, even if Real falls behind, they'll win the match. I can imagine such a scenario. Vinicius Jr. is playing very well this year. Real's offensive power is based on these two players. There are more options in Liverpool. You never know who will win the match.

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When Klopp first arrived, he said he would turn doubters into believers. It is quite obvious that Liverpool  has done well this season with VVD, Fabinho, Mane, Salah, and later Diaz. They have been a strong team from front to back and at one time had the most goals in the league and better GD than City. I believe that Liverpool will get their long awaited revenge against Real Madrid and win that game too.
As a team, Real Madrid is not stronger, also as a coach, Klopp is much better. But when it comes to the finals, we see how superior Real Madrid is. Benzema does his show again, even if Real falls behind, they'll win the match. I can imagine such a scenario. Vinicius Jr. is playing very well this year. Real's offensive power is based on these two players. There are more options in Liverpool. You never know who will win the match.

First of all, I would say Real Madrid are very lucky this season. Had they not been lucky, they would have been knocked out of the Champions League after losing to PSG in the quarter-finals. Secondly, Real Madrid is a bit more experienced than Liverpool on such a platform.
However, as a team, the Liverpool team is stronger than Real Madrid. Madrid's defense is weak. At the same time, their performance depends on Benzema. If they want to win the final, you have to reduce their dependence on Benzema. And young Vinicius has to play well.

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May 23, 2022, 07:06:14 PM
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it could be as you say
but surely their morale is low
definitely their stress is high
in the end we must also consider the human factor (stress and morale) because the players are not machines, and this affects their performances

They have to start again by regenerating their mentality at this time considering that in this case, even though it was quite difficult to win the league yesterday, this may have an impact on them in terms of performance later.

But in fact, if you look at other things, this will actually make a high motivation for them to remember that in any case this is a final and this is the end of a competition which means they have to maximize their game no matter what happens.
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May 23, 2022, 07:11:39 PM
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It is going to be a great final and I hope this match leaves up to the hype and expectation that it has created. I think Real Madrid has a very good chance of winning because their player had a good amount of rest before the final. But on the other hand, I believe Liverpool has a better squad and after losing the English Premier League title to Manchester City they will be really concentrated and determined to win the final.

When Klopp first arrived, he said he would turn doubters into believers. It is quite obvious that Liverpool  has done well this season with VVD, Fabinho, Mane, Salah, and later Diaz. They have been a strong team from front to back and at one time had the most goals in the league and better GD than City. I believe that Liverpool will get their long awaited revenge against Real Madrid and win that game too.

It was a great chance to win PL title for Liverpool but in the last match, City came back strongly on second half against Aston Villa. Liverpool played good but bad luck for them. I hope Liverpool will win against Real Madrid in the champions league final and it will reduce their sadness of PL.
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May 23, 2022, 07:15:03 PM
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I don't think it's a disappointment what Liverpool have achieved in the Domestic League, because their competitors are at their best. Liverpool have played well this season, they are just unlucky I think because the difference in points is only one point and that is very, very exciting. Their last game was also very good, if only Manchester City couldn't come back then Liverpool would have won it.
You're right Liverpool haven't disappointed their fans with their current run. Liverpool are really trying hard to get the EPL Trophy. But their chances are quite impossible to achieve because Manchester City looked stunning in the match against Aston Villa. Now Liverpool really have to focus on the Champions League final against Real Madrid and forget their failure to win the title in the domestic league.
Yes, there is no reason for them to continue to feel regret for not being able to win the Premier League movement. It's not purely their fault, and it's true that Manchester City are at their best, so it's quite difficult for Liverpool to expect Aston Villa to hold onto Manchester City. Now Liverpool's focus is only one, yes the Champions League final.

Liverpool played really well and they should be praised for that. There is no reason for them to be sad because Liverpool lost to Manchester city which is obviously one of the best teams ever in the English Premier League. But I think there might be a little disappointment with Liverpool if Liverpool fails to win the Champions League Trophy. They have still performed a lot better but I think Liverpool has the capability to win the Champions League Trophy this time.
Despite Liverpool didn't win the Premier Leaugue I still Liverpool as good team who have performed very well in their game. Liverpool  don't need to be worried because they didn't win the league , am very sure that the champions league will be for them.

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May 23, 2022, 07:21:53 PM
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Liverpool is obviously a team with a better squad,
but what I think is that Real Madrid is going to try to play as aggressively as they can in the last 10 minutes.
If Liverpool can do something about that I think they are good. I don't think Real Madrid will always be attacking in the match. 
But, I hope Liverpool will reserve some energy to face the initial onslaught in the last 10 minutes from Real Madrid.
Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are attacking teams. If you say that Real Madrid will not be attacking till the last 10mins, my question is where will they be playing then?
Real Madrid doesn't hold ball like Barcelona, their passes are always forward pass. So, they have no option than to attack and continue to attack. The decider of the match is who has a more composed defence line and midfield power. Liverpool will outsmart Madrid in defence line. They will also outpower Madrid in midfield power. But Madrid will have the midfield creatively.
Then in the attack, both teams are very dangerous I would have said that Liverpool has a more dangerous attack in Diaz, Mane and Salah. But Madrid has Benzema who can be regard as two players in one and then the tirelessly Vinicius.
It will be wonderful.

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May 23, 2022, 09:22:30 PM
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Almost all English football is about speed, it's their main trick, which often works because the opponent is not ready for that, but Real Madrid seem to me already ready for anything, the more so they already know how Liverpool play, hardly anything has changed.

Yes, not much has changed since the last time Liverpool met in the 2017/18 champions league final with Real Madrid. Little changes in Liverpool's midfield, on the other hand Real Madrid has changed a lot since then. Yes I agree that real madrid have understand Liverpool's game, while Liverpool will probably play with caution as they face the new Real Madrid.

Now both teams can rest and prepare mentally for this weekend's final, because the season in their respective leagues is over.

Liverpool finished in the English premier league a little differently than they wanted, I'm sure that upset them a little, but it doesn't matter anymore. Real Madrid have changed a lot since then, both in the squad and the game (but they haven't changed much in terms of play). I expect a lot of goals or at least constant tension in the form of attacks and counterattacks, it's interesting to watch

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May 23, 2022, 09:33:49 PM
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When Klopp first arrived, he said he would turn doubters into believers. It is quite obvious that Liverpool  has done well this season with VVD, Fabinho, Mane, Salah, and later Diaz. They have been a strong team from front to back and at one time had the most goals in the league and better GD than City. I believe that Liverpool will get their long awaited revenge against Real Madrid and win that game too.

As a team, Real Madrid is not stronger, also as a coach, Klopp is much better. But when it comes to the finals, we see how superior Real Madrid is. Benzema does his show again, even if Real falls behind, they'll win the match. I can imagine such a scenario. Vinicius Jr. is playing very well this year. Real's offensive power is based on these two players. There are more options in Liverpool. You never know who will win the match.

 When two strong team are to play match it is very hard to predict who will be the winner,  Liverpool is not like other weak team that one can predict and be sure real madrid win. It will be a big surprise to most people how Liverpool will end up winning the game.

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May 23, 2022, 09:40:11 PM
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First of all, I would say Real Madrid are very lucky this season. Had they not been lucky, they would have been knocked out of the Champions League after losing to PSG in the quarter-finals.
No, Real Madrid isn't lucky. They can defeat PSG because they have a strong mentality, always try, and never give up. They eliminated not only PSG, they kicked Chelsea and Man City as well. All the matches against those teams were always dramatic, they came back from falling behind on aggregate goals. Kicked these 3 strong teams aren't lucky, but simply showed how strong Real Madrid.

However, as a team, the Liverpool team is stronger than Real Madrid. Madrid's defense is weak.
Real Madrid as a team is also a strong team. How can you judge Madrid defense is weak? If their defenders are weak, they can't win the La Liga title and can't win against strong teams in the previous rounds of this UCL competition. Both Real Madrid and Liverpool are strong, they are in the same level, that's why they can be in the final round.


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Liverpool saved some key players yesterday,they just made Salah enter to play the last 25 minutes or a bit more.Also the other players were not playing at full power against Wolves and they had somewhat of a difficulty to win the match but in the end they did.I think is done intentionally from Klopp as Liverpool full focus is now on the Champions League.I think they will have a very difficult game against Real Madrid but it looks like they will give it all and knowing their fans behind them I am optimistic that they can win this trophy.
Klopp, of course, saved his players for the Champions League final, and although Liverpool were not going to lose to the vlocks, they understood that City had to win their match. Liverpool have the most important game of the season ahead of them and I think Liverpool will win. Real Madrid is a very strong team, but Liverpool are definitely stronger now and the odds of the bookmakers confirm this. Liverpool are faster and more creative and they have a lot of good forwards, and Real Madrid have all hope for Benzema.
Real Madrid and Liverpool are both experienced teams in the Champions League stage, Real Madrid has won 13 titles (the most) and Liverpool with 7 UCL titles. Mentally, at the highest competition stage on the blue continent, the two teams are not much different and in terms of quality, it's just that Liverpool have been much more consistent this season.
and in the previous few matches in the domestic league, these two teams have rested some of their flagship players to face the Champions League final next weekend.
there is no significant difference, the match will be very fierce, these two teams are the best for now on the European continent and for the chance to become champions both still have the same chance.
Failure in the English league became a spark for Liverpool to aim for the Champions League title.  Failure in the Premier League closed the door for Liverpool to reach the quadruple.  Now Klopp still has the opportunity to win the Treble if he is able to beat Real Madrid.  This final match is also the party that is highly anticipated by football fans around the world.  Liverpool and Real Madrid both have a good tradition in the Champions League stage.  The final match at the Stade de France, Paris, is also Liverpool's target for a seventh title, while Real Madrid are aiming for the 14th trophy of the most prestigious European club competition.
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As a team, Real Madrid is not stronger, also as a coach, Klopp is much better. But when it comes to the finals, we see how superior Real Madrid is. Benzema does his show again, even if Real falls behind, they'll win the match. I can imagine such a scenario. Vinicius Jr. is playing very well this year. Real's offensive power is based on these two players. There are more options in Liverpool. You never know who will win the match.
I don't get your statement. Being the better team usually means winning the whole thing so are you saying Liverpool would likely choke in the Finals? There's no denying that Benzema had been phenomenal for Real Madrid this season but I just have a hunch he will be restricted.
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The final game of the Champions League is only five days away from us now. For now, bookies are seeing Liverpool as the favourite side to win the title. But I wonder another important thing which is whether Liverpool are going to be able to improve their morale somehow after losing the Premier League title to Manchester City. This result can affect Liverpool players in a bad way actually but it isn't the time to stay under its affect now. Liverpool can still win the most important title in this game if they put their best effort in it. We will see which side want this title more between Liverpool and Real Madrid.

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I don't think that Liverpool will suffer from low morale. They have Klopp who after the game said 'losing this just means we want to win more on Sunday' and I really believe that yesterday won't affect us at all.

Thiago's injury might though - Real is a really well organized team and Thiago is our most creative midfield player. I hope Fabinho will be ready - losing both probably means Milner has to start alongside Henderson.
The absence of Thiago Alcantara is certainly a loss for Liverpool, who have lost creative players in the midfield sector.  Thiago is known to have an intelligent playing vision in creating opportunities for other Liverpool players.  This situation is certainly a challenge for Klopp to find players who can fill Thiago's role.  The midfield area will be vital considering that potential opponents Real Madrid have a number of players full of experience.  Among them are Toni Kross, Luka Modric to Casemiro who have the potential to win the midfield duel.  Klopp must find a powerful tactic to dampen Madrid's midfield, otherwise Liverpool will again be made to languish.
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