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December 08, 2023, 08:04:13 AM
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@Sithara007 Sometimes it's not a bad strategy when your defense is weak and why wait for the magic ball? Just swing it, have fun and add a few runs as well. You will live and die by the sword.

The pitch still looking good and reacting well for the spinners. Collapse or go for quick runs but don't play defensive because it won't be enough.

Agreed. Anyway, the partnership is broken now. Kyle Jamieson has been picked up by Shoriful Islam and that is the end of the 8th wicket partnership which added 55 valuable runs for New Zealand (incidentally yesterday at the close of play they were at 55/5). Now the captain Tim Southee has come to join Glenn Phillips. New Zealand still needs another 21 runs to take the first innings lead, and if they can do it, then it will be a huge psychological boost. But then, Bangladesh just need two more wickets to wrap up this innings.
Scores are level now.

I feel this morning Bangbros were not disciplined enough, they felt threatened when Kiwis attacked their spinners, it happens when you don't have enough runs on the board. Even 1 bad delivery per over can hurt your cause and they were bowling at least 2 pies now and then.
Glenn Phillips caught behind out..
Glenn Phillips 87 runs

Bangladesh got him out but too late especially if they had got him out first then New Zealand wouldn't have given Bangladesh a run lead. However thanks to Shariful Islam who managed to dismiss Glenn Phillips but he was able to take New Zealand's score to 180. Glenn Phillips was dismissed for 87 runs off 72 balls and New Zealand are currently trailing by 8 runs.

Finally Newzeland 180/All-Out (1st innings)

New Zealand could not add any more runs to the scoreboard after Glenn Phillips returned to the dressing room. New Zealand managed to take a lead of 8 runs. I would say this collection is very good in first innings. Because their innings had a terrible start.

Phillips and Daryl Mitchel's partnership was crucial. These two batsmen were able to perform the instruction of the day very well. This is why New Zealand managed to collect up to 180 runs. Also Jemieson and Southee's innings of 20 and 14 runs respectively were much needed.

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December 08, 2023, 08:22:43 AM
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Looks like the 2nd test will end as a draw or a Bangladesh win at this rate which would help the home team win the series either way giving them much needed confidence going forward.

On the other hand, New Zealand performance continues going downhill these days which is why they need to make some urgent changes to their team lineups.
2nd day completely washed out due to rain If tomorrow no rain and match start then Bangladesh needs to takes 5 wickets early in first 2 sessions of 1st innings and then Ban team play 2nd inning very fast in last session of 3rd day and 4 day with his batting and if they set a target 250+ then declared or all out then NZ team to chase this target in last day to level this series and last day its impossible to any team play fast.
 if they dont chase then need to draw this test because to save their points in icc test championship points table and if NZ lose this match that will highly impact New Zealand in points table. Ban team will tries his best to whitewash NZ on his home if rains no more distrub.

If the Bangladesh team can provide a target of more than 250 on this pitch then they will definitely win. The pitch is completely bowling friendly. And it is very difficult to collect runs on this kind of pitch. In the first innings we saw that the performance of the batsmen of both the teams was very poor. They can't play well. Batting on this pitch will be more difficult in the second innings. If Bangladesh can provide a target like 200-220 I think it will be enough to win. Because two Bangladeshi spinners Miraz and Taijul are in very good form now. Like the first match, I expect Bangladesh to win this match as well.
Finally on day 3 match has been resumed New Zealand all out on 180 runs in 2nd session of day 3 excellent batting by Glenn phillips made 87 runs help his team to reach on 180 runs in 1st inning. brilliant bowling by Taijul Islam and mehidy hassan takes 3, 3 wickets while Shoriful Islam and nayeem hassan took 2, 2 wickets. NZ are trail by 8 runs in 2nd innings BAN team should play fast and set a good target to New Zealand because now pitch has totally became bowling its very difficult for NZ batsman to chase the target on last day.

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December 08, 2023, 08:26:15 AM
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In Bangladesh vs New Zealand 2nd Test match, Bangladesh started to perform well. New Zealand put batsmen under pressure. In 1st inns, New Zealand team scored 180 all out. In 1st inns, Bangladesh team did well in bowling line. Looks like 2nd Test.  Bangladesh team will win the match. New Zealand did not perform well in the 1st Test match. I don't think New Zealand team can win the 2nd Test match.

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December 08, 2023, 08:42:26 AM
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Looks like the 2nd test will end as a draw or a Bangladesh win at this rate which would help the home team win the series either way giving them much needed confidence going forward.

On the other hand, New Zealand performance continues going downhill these days which is why they need to make some urgent changes to their team lineups.
2nd day completely washed out due to rain If tomorrow no rain and match start then Bangladesh needs to takes 5 wickets early in first 2 sessions of 1st innings and then Ban team play 2nd inning very fast in last session of 3rd day and 4 day with his batting and if they set a target 250+ then declared or all out then NZ team to chase this target in last day to level this series and last day its impossible to any team play fast.
 if they dont chase then need to draw this test because to save their points in icc test championship points table and if NZ lose this match that will highly impact New Zealand in points table. Ban team will tries his best to whitewash NZ on his home if rains no more distrub.
If the Bangladesh team can provide a target of more than 250 on this pitch then they will definitely win. The pitch is completely bowling friendly. And it is very difficult to collect runs on this kind of pitch. In the first innings we saw that the performance of the batsmen of both the teams was very poor. They can't play well. Batting on this pitch will be more difficult in the second innings. If Bangladesh can provide a target like 200-220 I think it will be enough to win. Because two Bangladeshi spinners Miraz and Taijul are in very good form now. Like the first match, I expect Bangladesh to win this match as well.
Finally on day 3 match has been resumed New Zealand all out on 180 runs in 2nd session of day 3 excellent batting by Glenn phillips made 87 runs help his team to reach on 180 runs in 1st inning. brilliant bowling by Taijul Islam and mehidy hassan takes 3, 3 wickets while Shoriful Islam and nayeem hassan took 2, 2 wickets. NZ are trail by 8 runs in 2nd innings BAN team should play fast and set a good target to New Zealand because now pitch has totally became bowling its very difficult for NZ batsman to chase the target on last day.

I don't think New Zealand can take the lead after the first day's batting disaster. My estimate was that New Zealand would score 100-180 runs at most. But the New Zealand team managed to collect 180 runs with the help of Phillips' 87 runs. Miraj and Taijul picked up three wickets each. Shoriful as Nayeem managed to pick up two wickets. After bowling just 4 overs, Shoriful and Nayeem managed to pick up two wickets each.

Bangladesh lost Joy's wicket in batting. Joy could collect only 2 runs. Now Bangladesh's collection is 38 runs after losing 1 wicket.

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December 08, 2023, 09:08:14 AM
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Bangladesh needs to be cautious here. They have a lead of 30 runs and already they have lost two wickets. If the target for New Zealand is somewhere around 150 (Bangladesh made 172 in the first innings), then there is a real chance that the Kiwis will be able to chase it down. So far Tim Southee and Ajaz Patel have taken one wicket each and Zakir Hasan as well as Mominul Haque are at the crease. Even now I would say that Bangladesh is having the upper hand. But at the same time, they can't venture on any adventures.

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December 08, 2023, 09:20:01 AM
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Bangladesh needs to be cautious here. They have a lead of 30 runs and already they have lost two wickets. If the target for New Zealand is somewhere around 150 (Bangladesh made 172 in the first innings), then there is a real chance that the Kiwis will be able to chase it down. So far Tim Southee and Ajaz Patel have taken one wicket each and Zakir Hasan as well as Mominul Haque are at the crease. Even now I would say that Bangladesh is having the upper hand. But at the same time, they can't venture on any adventures.

Bangladesh lost their first wicket by 3 runs and their second wicket by 38 runs. The match has now been stopped due to lack of light. Perhaps the Bangladesh team will not get a chance to bat again today. I don't expect a good performance from Bangladesh's top order. But I expect good performance from middle-order Mushfiq, Mominul and Miraj today. If these three batsmen are able to bat responsibly then the Bangladesh team will be able to give a target of more than 220. And on such a pitch 220 runs would be enough to win.

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Bangladesh lost their first wicket by 3 runs and their second wicket by 38 runs. The match has now been stopped due to lack of light. Perhaps the Bangladesh team will not get a chance to bat again today. I don't expect a good performance from Bangladesh's top order. But I expect good performance from middle-order Mushfiq, Mominul and Miraj today. If these three batsmen are able to bat responsibly then the Bangladesh team will be able to give a target of more than 220. And on such a pitch 220 runs would be enough to win.

220 is not needed. We saw how New Zealand batting collapsed during the second innings of first test match. I would say that a target of 150 should be enough and 170-180 should give Bangladesh a comfortable win. And if the Bangladeshi batsmen bat a bit more carefully, then it is achievable. But if they go in T20 mode, then there is a risk that they will lose quick wickets and their batting may collapse. Throughout the match, Bangladesh has maintained an upper hand and it will be disappointing if they flounder it as a result of carelessness.

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December 08, 2023, 10:36:17 AM
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Bangladesh needs to be cautious here. They have a lead of 30 runs and already they have lost two wickets. If the target for New Zealand is somewhere around 150 (Bangladesh made 172 in the first innings), then there is a real chance that the Kiwis will be able to chase it down. So far Tim Southee and Ajaz Patel have taken one wicket each and Zakir Hasan as well as Mominul Haque are at the crease. Even now I would say that Bangladesh is having the upper hand. But at the same time, they can't venture on any adventures.
In the first innings, Bangladesh batsmen decided to bat first after winning the toss. The Bangladesh team was under a lot of pressure after losing wickets in the beginning and the Bangladesh team was all out for only 172 runs. With a target of 173 runs, the New Zealand team was under a lot of pressure after losing 5 wickets for 55 runs. Then play was suspended yesterday due to rain. Today New Zealand's total is 180 all out. The Bangladesh team then went into bat and ended the third day's play with the loss of two wickets for 38 runs.
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December 08, 2023, 10:47:11 AM
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Bangladesh needs to be cautious here. They have a lead of 30 runs and already they have lost two wickets. If the target for New Zealand is somewhere around 150 (Bangladesh made 172 in the first innings), then there is a real chance that the Kiwis will be able to chase it down. So far Tim Southee and Ajaz Patel have taken one wicket each and Zakir Hasan as well as Mominul Haque are at the crease. Even now I would say that Bangladesh is having the upper hand. But at the same time, they can't venture on any adventures.
In the first innings, Bangladesh batsmen decided to bat first after winning the toss. The Bangladesh team was under a lot of pressure after losing wickets in the beginning and the Bangladesh team was all out for only 172 runs. With a target of 173 runs, the New Zealand team was under a lot of pressure after losing 5 wickets for 55 runs. Then play was suspended yesterday due to rain. Today New Zealand's total is 180 all out. The Bangladesh team then went into bat and ended the third day's play with the loss of two wickets for 38 runs.

Bangladesh vs New Zealand match 2nd inining s going on. Bangladesh has scored 38 runs and they have two players out. these two players are out very early even though they should have partnered for 100 runs  partnership.  Mahmudul Hasan Joy is a very good player but he got out too early and Zakir Hasan and Mominul Haque are still at the crease and these are the two players who can threaten New Zealand if these two batsmens stay for too long then they can easily score three hundred and above. if Bangladesh score 300 then they can be expected to win this match as New Zealand don't understand much of Bangladesh bowlers.

 In terms of bowling, two New Zealand players took one wicket each.  Ajaz Patel is bowling well and Tim Southee is also supporting him.  If New Zealand want to win this match, they will have to take wickets and Bangladesh team must be out before 200 runs, if they fail to do that, then it will be more difficult for them to chase

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December 08, 2023, 11:12:09 AM
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Bangladesh needs to be cautious here. They have a lead of 30 runs and already they have lost two wickets. If the target for New Zealand is somewhere around 150 (Bangladesh made 172 in the first innings), then there is a real chance that the Kiwis will be able to chase it down. So far Tim Southee and Ajaz Patel have taken one wicket each and Zakir Hasan as well as Mominul Haque are at the crease. Even now I would say that Bangladesh is having the upper hand. But at the same time, they can't venture on any adventures.
In the first innings, Bangladesh batsmen decided to bat first after winning the toss. The Bangladesh team was under a lot of pressure after losing wickets in the beginning and the Bangladesh team was all out for only 172 runs. With a target of 173 runs, the New Zealand team was under a lot of pressure after losing 5 wickets for 55 runs. Then play was suspended yesterday due to rain. Today New Zealand's total is 180 all out. The Bangladesh team then went into bat and ended the third day's play with the loss of two wickets for 38 runs.

Bangladesh vs New Zealand match 2nd inining s going on. Bangladesh has scored 38 runs and they have two players out. these two players are out very early even though they should have partnered for 100 runs  partnership.  Mahmudul Hasan Joy is a very good player but he got out too early and Zakir Hasan and Mominul Haque are still at the crease and these are the two players who can threaten New Zealand if these two batsmens stay for too long then they can easily score three hundred and above. if Bangladesh score 300 then they can be expected to win this match as New Zealand don't understand much of Bangladesh bowlers.

 In terms of bowling, two New Zealand players took one wicket each.  Ajaz Patel is bowling well and Tim Southee is also supporting him.  If New Zealand want to win this match, they will have to take wickets and Bangladesh team must be out before 200 runs, if they fail to do that, then it will be more difficult for them to chase

I don't know, but the way Bangladesh is batting, they might lose this match from a winning position. A target of 200 would be defendable. The game has moved nicely, and neither team has the advantage, to be honest. New Zealand hopes for an early breakthrough on Day 4 to restrict them as early as possible, while Bangladesh needs to form a good partnership. Bangladesh's performance on Day 3 wasn't as promising. They didn't bowl out earlier than they did and later lost two important wickets. Zakir Hasan and Mominul Haque are still at the crease and must be careful as they need extend their lead and set up a good target.
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December 08, 2023, 11:19:04 AM
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Bangladesh needs to be cautious here. They have a lead of 30 runs and already they have lost two wickets. If the target for New Zealand is somewhere around 150 (Bangladesh made 172 in the first innings), then there is a real chance that the Kiwis will be able to chase it down. So far Tim Southee and Ajaz Patel have taken one wicket each and Zakir Hasan as well as Mominul Haque are at the crease. Even now I would say that Bangladesh is having the upper hand. But at the same time, they can't venture on any adventures.
In the first innings, Bangladesh batsmen decided to bat first after winning the toss. The Bangladesh team was under a lot of pressure after losing wickets in the beginning and the Bangladesh team was all out for only 172 runs. With a target of 173 runs, the New Zealand team was under a lot of pressure after losing 5 wickets for 55 runs. Then play was suspended yesterday due to rain. Today New Zealand's total is 180 all out. The Bangladesh team then went into bat and ended the third day's play with the loss of two wickets for 38 runs.

Bangladesh vs New Zealand match 2nd inining s going on. Bangladesh has scored 38 runs and they have two players out. these two players are out very early even though they should have partnered for 100 runs  partnership.  Mahmudul Hasan Joy is a very good player but he got out too early and Zakir Hasan and Mominul Haque are still at the crease and these are the two players who can threaten New Zealand if these two batsmens stay for too long then they can easily score three hundred and above. if Bangladesh score 300 then they can be expected to win this match as New Zealand don't understand much of Bangladesh bowlers.

 In terms of bowling, two New Zealand players took one wicket each.  Ajaz Patel is bowling well and Tim Southee is also supporting him.  If New Zealand want to win this match, they will have to take wickets and Bangladesh team must be out before 200 runs, if they fail to do that, then it will be more difficult for them to chase

I don't know, but the way Bangladesh is batting, they might lose this match from a winning position. A target of 200 would be defendable. The game has moved nicely, and neither team has the advantage, to be honest. New Zealand hopes for an early breakthrough on Day 4 to restrict them as early as possible, while Bangladesh needs to form a good partnership. Bangladesh's performance on Day 3 wasn't as promising. They didn't bowl out earlier than they did and later lost two important wickets. Zakir Hasan and Mominul Haque are still at the crease and must be careful as they need extend their lead and set up a good target.
In the first Test match, New Zealand beat Bangladesh by a few runs in the first innings. The same thing happened in the second match.  However, Bangladesh's performance now looks very poor as they have lost two wickets for just 38 runs.  So it seems they might not be able to collect too many runs.  Meanwhile, New Zealand's preparations are very good.  So New Zealand is very likely to win this match.  Although New Zealand's game was delayed due to rain, they played very well. So it seems that both teams will be 1/1 winning New Zealand to win the second test match. And going into the third match, the winning difference between these two teams will be seen

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December 08, 2023, 11:31:00 AM
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The weather forecast says that there is zero chance of rain for the next 2 days. So we need to calculate whether Bangaldesh will get enough time to bowl out New Zealand or not. Theoretically around 180 overs remain in this match. If Bangladesh can add another 150 runs in the next 30 overs, then they can take the lead to 180. And then they will get 150 overs to bowl out New Zealand, which is more than enough. But then the risk factor is not rain, but bad light. If overs are lost tomorrow as well, then it becomes complicated.

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December 08, 2023, 11:43:15 AM
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The weather forecast says that there is zero chance of rain for the next 2 days. So we need to calculate whether Bangaldesh will get enough time to bowl out New Zealand or not. Theoretically around 180 overs remain in this match. If Bangladesh can add another 150 runs in the next 30 overs, then they can take the lead to 180. And then they will get 150 overs to bowl out New Zealand, which is more than enough. But then the risk factor is not rain, but bad light. If overs are lost tomorrow as well, then it becomes complicated.
I don't think 180 overs will be bowled in this match but it won't take long with the current batting scenario and I don't think it is easy to score 150 more by Bangladesh too and if they can then they can take all the time they want because even the last day is enough to take 10 wickets at such pitches.

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December 08, 2023, 12:19:14 PM
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The weather forecast says that there is zero chance of rain for the next 2 days. So we need to calculate whether Bangaldesh will get enough time to bowl out New Zealand or not. Theoretically around 180 overs remain in this match. If Bangladesh can add another 150 runs in the next 30 overs, then they can take the lead to 180. And then they will get 150 overs to bowl out New Zealand, which is more than enough. But then the risk factor is not rain, but bad light. If overs are lost tomorrow as well, then it becomes complicated.
I don't think 180 overs will be bowled in this match but it won't take long with the current batting scenario and I don't think it is easy to score 150 more by Bangladesh too and if they can then they can take all the time they want because even the last day is enough to take 10 wickets at such pitches.

Bad light might play a role in this match's result. We don't have to worry about the 180 overs, as the game will be over before this number. Bangladesh is already 2 down, and the way the wicket is behaving, I think anything above 150 will be a par score here considering New Zealand have to bat on this spinning track in the 4th innings.
The only thing that can save New Zealand in this match is the attacking cricket, both with the ball and bat. I really appreciate the effort of Glenn Phillips. I think New Zealand batters should play like him on this surface if they want to win the match.

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December 08, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
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New Zealand bounced back pretty nicely thanks to Phillips when they were 95/7 at one point while Bangladesh would be regretting not removing him quicker since they could have given them a decent lead.

Bangladesh are in danger here and need to score at least something close to 180-200 in order to ensure their win in this match.

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I am disappointed to see this bad situation in New Zealand. I did not even think that I would play so badly with a team like New Zealand-Bangladesh. Anyway good luck to the Bangladesh team. Mirpur is an ideal field for spinners of the Bangladesh team.
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December 08, 2023, 01:28:16 PM
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The weather forecast says that there is zero chance of rain for the next 2 days. So we need to calculate whether Bangaldesh will get enough time to bowl out New Zealand or not. Theoretically around 180 overs remain in this match. If Bangladesh can add another 150 runs in the next 30 overs, then they can take the lead to 180. And then they will get 150 overs to bowl out New Zealand, which is more than enough. But then the risk factor is not rain, but bad light. If overs are lost tomorrow as well, then it becomes complicated.
There is virtually no chance of 180 overs. In the first test, on average we lost 8 overs every day so it's a good baseline in a bad light scenario. More overs will be lost if the situation remains the same as today's gameplay. Let's say we lose 60 overs, given its bowling deck and pitch is expected to misbehave or explode in a 4th-5th day. I think we'll have a result even if it becomes a 120-over match.

The reason I am expecting a result in 120 overs is because New Zealand and Bangladesh played just 37 and 66 overs in their respective first innings. So their 2nd innings won't be much different as no one is playing defensively.
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December 08, 2023, 01:29:42 PM
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I am disappointed to see this bad situation in New Zealand. I did not even think that I would play so badly with a team like New Zealand-Bangladesh. Anyway good luck to the Bangladesh team. Mirpur is an ideal field for spinners of the Bangladesh team.
Both the teams are struggling with the bat so I would blame the host more than the visitors because the condition is alien for them so they are struggling but why the home team is struggling too and scored less than the visitors. Still the game can go either side and with the quality I still bet on NZ and they are known to make comebacks from crisis situations.

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December 08, 2023, 01:47:08 PM
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I am disappointed to see this bad situation in New Zealand. I did not even think that I would play so badly with a team like New Zealand-Bangladesh. Anyway good luck to the Bangladesh team. Mirpur is an ideal field for spinners of the Bangladesh team.
Basically, the reason for such bad batting performance of the New Zealand team is the peace of Mirpur Stadium. Where batsmen struggle to bat and spinners get most of the wickets as the piece is currently in the hands of the spinners. Moreover, playing in Bangladesh's field, Bangladesh played a good team against New Zealand and they have experience, that's why they won the first Test match against New Zealand. However, the second test match is not expected to be very good between the two teams so it is difficult to say which team will win the second test. Bangladesh and New Zealand are getting bowled out with neither team doing much, wickets falling more than runs.

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December 08, 2023, 01:54:59 PM
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I am disappointed to see this bad situation in New Zealand.
They are not playing in New Zealand. They are playing in Bangladesh. It's home series for Bangladesh.
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I did not even think that I would play so badly
I am sure you are not a cricketer at all. All i can assume is it's because of your bad English. My English is bad too. But I believe people understand what I am talking about. I would suggest you to use Grammarly or a similar tools to improve your writing. So, you don't get another spammer tag for poor English.

I though New Zealand won't be able to score hundred runs. But Phillips changed everything. He played an exceptional innings.

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