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July 15, 2023, 02:30:55 PM
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I like Nathon Lyon but he is part of the Aussie squad only because they don't have any good spinners in the country.

If you make the World XI of the current decade then Ashwin will walk in easily and if you look at his batting as a number 8 batter. Every team would love to have a bowler, who is handy with the bat. We shouldn't forget he has 5 tons in international cricket.


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July 15, 2023, 03:21:24 PM
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How much confidence in themselves a team batting just one innings with 5 wickets in hand declares the innings scoring only 421 runs and wins the match again by an innings margin and 141 runs. This is what we saw in the first Test match between West Indies vs India. West Indies could not score the same number of runs as India's half innings in 2 innings.  

150 in the first innings and 130 in the second innings can never be Test cricket scores. After a poor first innings, the second innings had a chance to save the team from losing by an innings to a place of honour, but West Indies failed even more in the second innings.  

Losing and winning is a part of the game but defeat must be fought and defeated. West Indies were dishonored in the first test against India.

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July 15, 2023, 03:39:48 PM
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I like Nathon Lyon but he is part of the Aussie squad only because they don't have any good spinners in the country.
I disagree. What is the definition of a good spinner? Does he have to move the ball like crazy like Warne or Murali? Does he have to take wickets whenever the team is a bad place? Does he need to give away less runs overall?

For me, a good spinner is someone who answers the last 2 questions effectively. Lyon's bowling average is decent and he took 526 wickets in just 153 matches : Good spinner!

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I like Nathon Lyon but he is part of the Aussie squad only because they don't have any good spinners in the country.
I disagree. What is the definition of a good spinner?
Any spinner who can test both the inner and outer edge of batters is considered freaking gold. In my recent memory, no bowlers fit the bill even the likes of Murli or Warne. I've seen them fail multiple times against the Indian batting line up.

Unfortunately, everyone cares about the pace battery. I don't consider this wrong but when you think it's superior to spin then you are fucked. There is a reason Indians hardly lose at home because spin is an art and no one wants to do any hard yards.

I've said this many times, if you consider the Indian context then even great Warne was a mediocre bowler at best. I would never pick him in my playing XI if someone playing against India at their home turf.


PS : Lyon is a good spinner but not as good as Ashwin, period. You can call me biased but i can back my argument with the stats. After all that's what matters and don't forget to compare his stats with Ash.


 

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July 15, 2023, 04:34:47 PM
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India has actually declared their innings just now. Indies has just come out to bat. West Indies is trailing by 271. And a huge score for the West Indies team to be honest. After all, they did not score anything near that in the first innings.
I have a bet on India and Australia to win. It seems India to win is a sure bet but the next one for me will be challenging. England came back strong after wining the last match. The series is now 2 - 1. If they lose the next match then they will lose series. Will be a tough match considering the close results in the last three matches. Australia have a habit to handle pressure and win in pressure. Let's see what they will do in the 4th test. If they win then I will have some nice profit. After all it is The Ashes.

It was predicted before the start of the series that India will win against the West Indies. The situation in the West Indies is now very bad. The team also failed to qualify for the ODI World Cup.

The Ashes have become very competitive. After losing the first two matches, England made a great comeback in the third match. And therefore, the Australian team cannot be considered favorites in the fourth match. Both teams have equal chances of winning. But in some matches, we have seen that the result of the match depends more on the performance of the batsmen. We will probably see the same in the next match.

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July 15, 2023, 04:47:54 PM
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West Indies cricket is at its worst. The management and the cricket board should make the team better. I don't know how they'll generate revenue conducting a match. There is no audience on the ground. If the same match have been played in India, BCCI could've made good revenue out of the match tickets. I don't know whether the interest of people have declined or this is just because it is a test match.
Right Wi playing very bad cricket even though he does not qualify for Word Cup 2023. What a shocking display of cricket by India They secured a remarkable victory against West Indies winning by an innings and 141 runs. The Indian team show amazing performance and teamwork especially the bowling performance by Ravichandran Ashwin exceptional  picking 12 wickets played a crucial role in this victory but the batting performance of Yashasvi Jaiswal is outstanding scored 171 runs get the well deserved title Player of the Match.
It is difficult to find a second cricket team like India.  India has managed their team very well and all their players are very skilled. when India took to the field, they had a strong confidence. and there is always no pressure between them. West Indies have not become as strong a team as India.  West Indies scored a total of 280 runs in two innings, India scored 421 runs in one innings and won the match by an innings and 141 runs.  It was really an too easy match for India



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West Indies cricket is at its worst. The management and the cricket board should make the team better. I don't know how they'll generate revenue conducting a match. There is no audience on the ground. If the same match have been played in India, BCCI could've made good revenue out of the match tickets. I don't know whether the interest of people have declined or this is just because it is a test match.
Right Wi playing very bad cricket even though he does not qualify for Word Cup 2023. What a shocking display of cricket by India They secured a remarkable victory against West Indies winning by an innings and 141 runs. The Indian team show amazing performance and teamwork especially the bowling performance by Ravichandran Ashwin exceptional  picking 12 wickets played a crucial role in this victory but the batting performance of Yashasvi Jaiswal is outstanding scored 171 runs get the well deserved title Player of the Match.
It is difficult to find a second cricket team like India.  India has managed their team very well and all their players are very skilled. when India took to the field, they had a strong confidence. and there is always no pressure between them. West Indies have not become as strong a team as India.  West Indies scored a total of 280 runs in two innings, India scored 421 runs in one innings and won the match by an innings and 141 runs.  It was really an too easy match for India

India's team is very strong and experienced. If you want to win against such a big team, you definitely need an experienced squad. But this West Indies squad is not experienced enough. And more importantly, most of the players in the team are out of form now. And so in both innings, we saw a West Indies batting disaster. West Indies batsmen are not going to play well as I could have guessed. However, a slightly better performance was expected from their bowlers. But the West Indies bowlers could not bowl well either. As a result, the West Indies team had to accept a humiliating defeat.

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West Indies cricket is at its worst. The management and the cricket board should make the team better. I don't know how they'll generate revenue conducting a match. There is no audience on the ground. If the same match have been played in India, BCCI could've made good revenue out of the match tickets. I don't know whether the interest of people have declined or this is just because it is a test match.
Right Wi playing very bad cricket even though he does not qualify for Word Cup 2023. What a shocking display of cricket by India They secured a remarkable victory against West Indies winning by an innings and 141 runs. The Indian team show amazing performance and teamwork especially the bowling performance by Ravichandran Ashwin exceptional  picking 12 wickets played a crucial role in this victory but the batting performance of Yashasvi Jaiswal is outstanding scored 171 runs get the well deserved title Player of the Match.

I am confused as to whether I should appreciate the tremendous performance of the Indian team or I should blame the poor cricket by the West Indies team and their decline in the international arena.

The only thing that I can debate in this test match is who should have been the Player of the match. Either it should be Yashasvi Jaiswal
with 171 runs (who is the actual player of the match) or it should have been Ravichandran Ashwin who took a total of 12 wickets in both the innings.

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West Indies cricket is at its worst. The management and the cricket board should make the team better. I don't know how they'll generate revenue conducting a match. There is no audience on the ground. If the same match have been played in India, BCCI could've made good revenue out of the match tickets. I don't know whether the interest of people have declined or this is just because it is a test match.
Right Wi playing very bad cricket even though he does not qualify for Word Cup 2023. What a shocking display of cricket by India They secured a remarkable victory against West Indies winning by an innings and 141 runs. The Indian team show amazing performance and teamwork especially the bowling performance by Ravichandran Ashwin exceptional  picking 12 wickets played a crucial role in this victory but the batting performance of Yashasvi Jaiswal is outstanding scored 171 runs get the well deserved title Player of the Match.

I am confused as to whether I should appreciate the tremendous performance of the Indian team or I should blame the poor cricket by the West Indies team and their decline in the international arena.

The only thing that I can debate in this test match is who should have been the Player of the match. Either it should be Yashasvi Jaiswal
with 171 runs (who is the actual player of the match) or it should have been Ravichandran Ashwin who took a total of 12 wickets in both the innings.
I think Ashwin made more sense, considering it was bowling of India which was exceptional the batting wasn't that extraordinary. I know 171 was very crucial, but very less things come close to 12 wickets for one bowler in a match, also when he took 7 wickets in the very last innings where India won th match.
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July 15, 2023, 07:49:35 PM
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England vs Australia 4th Ashes Test -

All eyes on Old Trafford - Wednesday July 19th to Sunday July 23rd.

It’s crunch time, looking forward to this. Will England win to set it up for a winner takes all 5th test or will Australia  ruin English hopes & reclaim the urn?

Obviously, this is another do or die match for England. I will actually say that if England does not make any big mistake they will be able to win this test match. If you look at the 1st two test matches in this Ashes series, we will see that England made some big mistakes and they paid for it. But in the third test match, England did not make too many mistakes and they were able to win. So making the right decisions all the time is going to be key for England.

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July 15, 2023, 07:52:14 PM
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Right Wi playing very bad cricket even though he does not qualify for Word Cup 2023. What a shocking display of cricket by India They secured a remarkable victory against West Indies winning by an innings and 141 runs. The Indian team show amazing performance and teamwork especially the bowling performance by Ravichandran Ashwin exceptional  picking 12 wickets played a crucial role in this victory but the batting performance of Yashasvi Jaiswal is outstanding scored 171 runs get the well deserved title Player of the Match.
I am confused as to whether I should appreciate the tremendous performance of the Indian team or I should blame the poor cricket by the West Indies team and their decline in the international arena.
The only thing that I can debate in this test match is who should have been the Player of the match. Either it should be Yashasvi Jaiswal
with 171 runs (who is the actual player of the match) or it should have been Ravichandran Ashwin who took a total of 12 wickets in both the innings.
I think Ashwin made more sense, considering it was bowling of India which was exceptional the batting wasn't that extraordinary. I know 171 was very crucial, but very less things come close to 12 wickets for one bowler in a match, also when he took 7 wickets in the very last innings where India won th match.

noormcs5, the performance of the West Indies cricket team in all formats has dropped a lot. The quality of the team is not as good as it was before. Not being able to qualify for the World Cup was a huge reality check for the West Indies cricket team. I just hope that they do not become irrelevant. I also hope that what happened with Zimbabwe does not happen with them. But at this moment things are not looking good for them at all.

India performed really well. This was an almost flawless performance from India. Probably the fast bowlers of India could have done a little better. Other than that it was pretty much flawless.



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July 15, 2023, 11:45:34 PM
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Right Wi playing very bad cricket even though he does not qualify for Word Cup 2023. What a shocking display of cricket by India They secured a remarkable victory against West Indies winning by an innings and 141 runs. The Indian team show amazing performance and teamwork especially the bowling performance by Ravichandran Ashwin exceptional  picking 12 wickets played a crucial role in this victory but the batting performance of Yashasvi Jaiswal is outstanding scored 171 runs get the well deserved title Player of the Match.
I am confused as to whether I should appreciate the tremendous performance of the Indian team or I should blame the poor cricket by the West Indies team and their decline in the international arena.
The only thing that I can debate in this test match is who should have been the Player of the match. Either it should be Yashasvi Jaiswal
with 171 runs (who is the actual player of the match) or it should have been Ravichandran Ashwin who took a total of 12 wickets in both the innings.
I think Ashwin made more sense, considering it was bowling of India which was exceptional the batting wasn't that extraordinary. I know 171 was very crucial, but very less things come close to 12 wickets for one bowler in a match, also when he took 7 wickets in the very last innings where India won th match.

noormcs5, the performance of the West Indies cricket team in all formats has dropped a lot. The quality of the team is not as good as it was before. Not being able to qualify for the World Cup was a huge reality check for the West Indies cricket team. I just hope that they do not become irrelevant. I also hope that what happened with Zimbabwe does not happen with them. But at this moment things are not looking good for them at all.

India performed really well. This was an almost flawless performance from India. Probably the fast bowlers of India could have done a little better. Other than that it was pretty much flawless.

The match turned to be flawless from India, and it is all because of the opponent. If the opponent is strong enough surely the Indian team could've struggled. Just think of the WTC match against Australia. India was at its best, but they weren't able to win the match. West Indies have dropped performance and to understand the performance progress of India we need to watch its matches against the top teams with the same squad.

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July 16, 2023, 03:09:30 AM
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England vs Australia 4th Ashes Test -

All eyes on Old Trafford - Wednesday July 19th to Sunday July 23rd.

It’s crunch time, looking forward to this. Will England win to set it up for a winner takes all 5th test or will Australia  ruin English hopes & reclaim the urn?

The game between these two teams is very hard.  And in the last 3 test matches, Australia won 2 and England won 1 but neither team can be ruled out in the 4th match.  Because both teams are very strong.  Since England won 1 of the last 3 matches, they can play well in the 4th match and add their victory to compete head to head with Australia. So I think that England can play the 4th match with strong morale and win the match but Australia cannot be neglected in this case too


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July 16, 2023, 03:50:51 AM
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I like Nathon Lyon but he is part of the Aussie squad only because they don't have any good spinners in the country.

If you make the World XI of the current decade then Ashwin will walk in easily and if you look at his batting as a number 8 batter. Every team would love to have a bowler, who is handy with the bat. We shouldn't forget he has 5 tons in international cricket.

R Ashwin obviously better than Lyon.
Indian spinner bowler Ravichandran Ashwin is currently at the top of the Test bowling rankings. Ashwin is not only seen as a bowler but this legendary cricketer can bat like a professional batter.
It is true that there is no spinner in Australian cricket except Lyon but Indian cricket has several spinners including Ravindra Jadeja apart from Ravichandran Ashwin. Even if Ashwin is not there, there are several players who can fill his place in Indian cricket.

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July 16, 2023, 03:57:32 AM
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PS : Lyon is a good spinner but not as good as Ashwin, period. You can call me biased but i can back my argument with the stats. After all that's what matters and don't forget to compare his stats with Ash.
My point was actually regarding whether Lyon is a good spinner or not. I never compared him to Ashwin because I am an Ashwin fan myself and I know very well that he is far better than Lyon in several departments.

Will England win to set it up for a winner takes all 5th test or will Australia  ruin English hopes & reclaim the urn?
Almost everyone wants England to win in order to setup an awesome final, but it's tough to tell since the current Australian team usually bounce back pretty quickly based on what I observed.

Even if England wins the 4th test, I am expecting Australia to win the 5th test. Let's see what happens.

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July 16, 2023, 04:23:23 AM
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Sri Lanka VS Pakistan


While we were enjoying the test match between India and West Indies, India dominated the match, which was a one-sided game.
The 4th match of ashes will start on 19th July. Meanwhile, The first test match between Sri Lanka and Pakistan will be held at Galle international stadium. Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to bat first.

Pakistan playing squad: Abdullah Shafique, Imam-ul-Haq, Shan Masood, Babar Azam (c), Saud Shakeel, Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk), Agha Salman, Nauman Ali, Abrar Ahmed, Shaheen Afridi, Naseem Shah

Sri Lanka playing squad: Dimuth Karunaratne (c), Nishan Madushka, Kusal Mendis, Angelo Mathews, Dhananjaya de Silva, Dinesh Chandimal, Sadeera Samarawickrama (wk), Ramesh Mendis, Prabath Jayasuriya, Vishwa Fernando, Kasun Rajitha

What is your prediction?

NB: Squad data collected from Cricbuzz

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July 16, 2023, 04:26:37 AM
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Pakistan vs Sri Lanka 1st Test match is going to start after a while. SriLanka won the toss and decided to bat. SriLanka are in good form. They are fielding with their strong XI. Sri Lanka will definitely get a bit more benefit as it is their home ground. On the other hand, there are some changes for Pakistan today.  Sarfaraz has been dropped in the team as Rizwan's replacement. I think Rizwan was good. Pakistan's pace attack is very dangerous with bowlers like Shaheen Afridi and Naseem Shah. I think the match will be very exciting. But the spinners are more successful in this field of Sri Lanka. I don't think the pace bowlers will have any problem in that case.
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July 16, 2023, 04:29:08 AM
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First test between Pakistan and Srilanka will start in a while at Galle. Srilanka won the toss and elected to bat first. Pakistan had a terrible test record last year while Srilanka had much better recern test record compared to Pakistan. Last time these teams meet at Galle in July 2022 and Sri Lanka won that match by 246 runs. Pakistan a desperate test series win to improve there test ranking.

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July 16, 2023, 04:31:16 AM
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Pakistan Vs Sir Lanka
1st Test Match between Pakistan and Sir Lanka started at Galle. Srilanka won the toss and elected to bat first. Pakistan team included top Order batter Abdullah Shafique, Imam ul Haq, Shan Masood and Babar Azam very good player wicket keeper Sarfraz Ahmad. I think Muhammad Rizwan should have been in the team as a batter in place of either Shakeel or Salman. I'm shocked to see Pakistan are playing only 2 fast bowlers Shaheen Shah Afraid and Naseem Shan but the Pakistan team playing with 3 spinners Noman Ali, Agha Suleman and Abrar Ahamed. Where is spin bowler Sajid Ali? The Pakistan team looking strong team than Sirlanka.



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