Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Bitcoin Smith]

^^ I believe he would get next 2 home series as well to come back in form and even if he doesn't then there is a high possiblity of management sticking with him because atm there is no captaincy option, unless they go back to kohli. It'd be wonderful but very unlikely.

What about Bumrah? He is at his prime, and it's long due from team India to have a bowler as a captain.

Bumrah showed his skill in India as well as in SENA even in his short test career, and it looks like he definitely interested in Leading MI after Hitman and that is why he emote heart Break when Pandya announced as the next captain.

Tricky one IMO.

He's a good candidate for captaincy but he's kind of fragile and prone to injury. If he's not playing any T-20-ODI then he could be a good asset as captain for team India but the way the ICC tourney popping up every year and considering the Indian team's FTP it's tough for a fast bowler.

Fast bowlers are more prone to injury than other players but if he is appointed as vice captain then he should be the one to look for future, or it's just unfair on the player who is giving everything and still not considered as someone who can lead from the front. Workload management is very tricky because BCCI is forcing players to play most matches as possible but considering his age and his current form, if he manages to balance his form and workload in this year then I am sure he will be one.

Another fact: Bumrah joined an elite club

The second player from Asia to reach no.1 ranking in all the formats, and the one is King Kohli.

[Publictalk792]

South Africa give poor performance in First test match they all out 162 runs in first inning of match and in second inning they scored 241 runa and lost this match by huge margin. New Zealand lead the series by 1-0 after winning the first match against South Africa. I think South Africa will bounce back in second test match that start from 13 February and they will try to win this match and level the series.

I agree that South Africa didn't play well in the first test match. They only scored 162 runs in the first innings and lost by a big difference. It's disappointing. But I also think that South Africa can do better in the second test match. They have a talented team and have shown in the past that they can perform well under pressure. I hope they look at their mistakes from the first match and come up with a better plan for the second test. It's important for them to tie the series and feel confident again. I'm excited to see a competitive and fun match between South Africa and New Zealand.

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I don't know whether Jadeja would be playing tomorrow or not as it depends on his fitness. Wicket preparation depends on the curator but yes it is generally a batting track. Kuldeep is an extremely good spinner what he lacks is the ability to bat which is fulfilled by Jadeja. I do agree it all depends on the kind of wicket and accordingly the team management can choose the right amount of bowlers. I think Jurel should be given a chance as Bharat is not doing good in this series previously Rohit did say that he will give chance to all players in the team.

[JSRAW]

^^ Even the skipper and Coach are clueless lol

Tricky one IMO.

He's a good candidate for captaincy but he's kind of fragile and prone to injury. If he's not playing any T-20-ODI then he could be a good asset as captain for team India but the way the ICC tourney popping up every year and considering the Indian team's FTP it's tough for a fast bowler.

Fast bowlers are more prone to injury than other players but if he is appointed as vice captain then he should be the one to look for future, or it's just unfair on the player who is giving everything and still not considered as someone who can lead from the front. Workload management is very tricky because BCCI is forcing players to play most matches as possible but considering his age and his current form, if he manages to balance his form and workload in this year then I am sure he will be one.

Another fact: Bumrah joined an elite club

The second player from Asia to reach no.1 ranking in all the formats, and the one is King Kohli.

Call it unfair or whatever, it's just that management is clueless on the captaincy matter. They are so clueless that they are not sure if they want to rest Bumrah or not. It's a big giveaway don't you think?

At one point they were looking at Shreyas Iyer and KL Rahul but both lost their form and also had some problems with the fitness. KL made a good comeback and if he keep showing enough consistency with the bat then i believe they will hand over captaincy to him.

[cryptoWODL]

New Zealand vs South Africa 2nd Test match

The South African team is touring New Zealand to play a comprehensive series of two Test matches against New Zealand. There has already been one match in this Test series where New Zealand defeated South Africa miserably by a huge margin of 281 runs. As a result, the New Zealand team is now leading the series 1-0 after winning one match against South Africa.

The second Test match between New Zealand and South Africa is going to start tomorrow in Hamilton. South Africa and New Zealand announced their squads for the second Test match. Like the first test match, the New Zealand squad is very strong in the second test match but the South African squad is very weak in comparison. South Africa's players look like they will be defeated by New Zealand in the second Test as well as they have no bright players in this series.

[JSRAW]

New update on the squad:  KL Rahul is ruled out for the 3rd test. Paddikal is his replacement.

Things got so bad that BCCI had to roll out a dictate that if any player is free, they are required to play in Ranji or Domestic cricket.

After becoming IPL riches, lots of players started ignoring their respecting state boards and hardly make themselves available but not anymore, given everything goes well.

BCCI mandates player participation in next round of Ranji Trophy matches

[MusaPk]

Things got so bad that BCCI had to roll out a dictate that if any player is free, they are required to play in Ranji or Domestic cricket.

After becoming IPL riches, lots of players started ignoring their respecting state boards and hardly make themselves available but not anymore, given everything goes well.

BCCI mandates player participation in next round of Ranji Trophy matches

BCCI made it for mandatory for players who are fit and not on national duty to play Ranji trophy. We all know who well IPL pays to player, how about Ranji trophy? Do they have some attractive packages for participants or not. Players these days are not willing to play domestic crikcet due to T20 leagues where you earn more by playing shorter games compared to 4 days game at domestic level.

[JSRAW]

Things got so bad that BCCI had to roll out a dictate that if any player is free, they are required to play in Ranji or Domestic cricket.

After becoming IPL riches, lots of players started ignoring their respecting state boards and hardly make themselves available but not anymore, given everything goes well.

BCCI mandates player participation in next round of Ranji Trophy matches

BCCI made it for mandatory for players who are fit and not on national duty to play Ranji trophy. We all know who well IPL pays to player, how about Ranji trophy? Do they have some attractive packages for participants or not. Players these days are not willing to play domestic crikcet due to T20 leagues where you earn more by playing shorter games compared to 4 days game at domestic level.

Ranji recently gave a raise to the domestic circuit. For Ranji, Paygrade is between 40k INR - 60 K INR per day (4 day match). Paygrade depends on the experience and those fellas sitting out get half the amount, again on the experience they have.

In comparison to IPL, it's not much but overall pay is quite decent and they can make 10-20 Lakh INR from just Ranji, apart from that there are other tournaments as well like Vijay Hajare trophy (ODI) and Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy (T-20)

[Bitcoin Smith]

New update on the squad:  KL Rahul is ruled out for the 3rd test. Paddikal is his replacement.

Things got so bad that BCCI had to roll out a dictate that if any player is free, they are required to play in Ranji or Domestic cricket.

After becoming IPL riches, lots of players started ignoring their respecting state boards and hardly make themselves available but not anymore, given everything goes well.

BCCI mandates player participation in next round of Ranji Trophy matches

I feel it's good update because the players who are actively performing and not getting chances due to the star players of IPL can be navigated to some extent. But still it's good to form second stride team with more importance like they were in the past so if someone is injured then they can simply replace the player with who can be close to their playing style whether it's batting or bowling but what is happening now is kind of chaotic if one player injures and team combination has to be completed shuffled to fine right one.

[MusaPk]

Ranji recently gave a raise to the domestic circuit. For Ranji, Paygrade is between 40k INR - 60 K INR per day (4 day match). Paygrade depends on the experience and those fellas sitting out get half the amount, again on the experience they have.

In comparison to IPL, it's not much but overall pay is quite decent and they can make 10-20 Lakh INR from just Ranji, apart from that there are other tournaments as well like Vijay Hajare trophy (ODI) and Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy (T-20)

This is nothing for player that is part of National team and has high bids in IPL. Anyone who is not part of National team can play that to get attention of selectors. One more thing BCCI must do is to allow its domestic players to take part in T20 Leagues around the world. This will give opportunity to domestic players to earn good money and get exposure. BCCI must recognise that not every domestic player can make it to IPL.

[Compromise me]

South Africa give poor performance in First test match they all out 162 runs in first inning of match and in second inning they scored 241 runa and lost this match by huge margin. New Zealand lead the series by 1-0 after winning the first match against South Africa. I think South Africa will bounce back in second test match that start from 13 February and they will try to win this match and level the series.

You are right ,south Africa team play not well, South Africa did not meet the run target of New Zealand first innings in both their innings.
If we check the record of these two teams, New Zealand is much ahead of the South African team due to its more experience and more match winning.

New Zealand scored 690 runs in their two innings and South Africa scored only 411 runs in their two innings.The run difference is huge but I hope South Africa will improve their batting performance skills now.

[Ayers]

South Africa give poor performance in First test match they all out 162 runs in first inning of match and in second inning they scored 241 runa and lost this match by huge margin. New Zealand lead the series by 1-0 after winning the first match against South Africa. I think South Africa will bounce back in second test match that start from 13 February and they will try to win this match and level the series.

You are right ,south Africa team play not well, South Africa did not meet the run target of New Zealand first innings in both their innings.
If we check the record of these two teams, New Zealand is much ahead of the South African team due to its more experience and more match winning.

New Zealand scored 690 runs in their two innings and South Africa scored only 411 runs in their two innings.The run difference is huge but I hope South Africa will improve their batting performance skills now.

We have seen very bad batting of the South African team in the first match itself. While New Zealand managed to score 511 runs in their first innings, South Africa scored only 162 runs on the same pitch. A target of 529 runs, the South African team lost by a huge margin of 281 runs.

After such poor batting in the first match, I don't think South Africa will play well in the second match. South Africa is likely to lose in the second match as well. Because New Zealand players are in very good form now. And they will be more confident in the second match as well. I consider the New Zealand team as the favorite in the second test match.

[JSRAW]

Ranji recently gave a raise to the domestic circuit. For Ranji, Paygrade is between 40k INR - 60 K INR per day (4 day match). Paygrade depends on the experience and those fellas sitting out get half the amount, again on the experience they have.

In comparison to IPL, it's not much but overall pay is quite decent and they can make 10-20 Lakh INR from just Ranji, apart from that there are other tournaments as well like Vijay Hajare trophy (ODI) and Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy (T-20)

This is nothing for player that is part of National team and has high bids in IPL. Anyone who is not part of National team can play that to get attention of selectors. One more thing BCCI must do is to allow its domestic players to take part in T20 Leagues around the world. This will give opportunity to domestic players to earn good money and get exposure. BCCI must recognise that not every domestic player can make it to IPL.

Do you think, anyone who is regular in the Indian team and gets a million or half a million dollars in the IPL, wants to play in a foreign league for money?

The 100 pays less than $150k for the top slot. BBL pay is around $200-300k at best for top T-20 players. Are these franchises willing to hire 2nd or 3rd tier Indian players (including those retired) from domestic cricket for 100k per season? I highly doubt that. I know big or any decent Indian player won't touch any foreign league for sure.

[HelliumZ]

After such poor batting in the first match, I don't think South Africa will play well in the second match. South Africa is likely to lose in the second match as well. Because New Zealand players are in very good form now. And they will be more confident in the second match as well. I consider the New Zealand team as the favorite in the second test match.

After the defeat in the first test, South Africa should prepare themselves well for the second test. Defeated the first Test by a huge margin of 281 runs and New Zealand declared their second innings but South Africa were bowled out in both their innings. However, New Zealand's Kane Williamson (118,109) and Rachin Ravindra (240,12) played extraordinary innings because of which New Zealand's run collection was over 500 runs in the first innings. However, looking at South Africa's poor performance, it seems likely that South Africa will lose in the second match as well as in the first Test.

[Jateng]

After such poor batting in the first match, I don't think South Africa will play well in the second match. South Africa is likely to lose in the second match as well. Because New Zealand players are in very good form now. And they will be more confident in the second match as well. I consider the New Zealand team as the favorite in the second test match.

New Zealand is best team in test format recently they perform very outclassed cricket by Winning the first test match by huge margin again South Africa. I think South Africa have potential to strong bounce back in second test match that played at seddon park at 13 February and South Africa have ability to win it and level the series by 1-1 if they played impressive cricket in both bowling and batting department.

[Compromise me]

After such poor batting in the first match, I don't think South Africa will play well in the second match. South Africa is likely to lose in the second match as well. Because New Zealand players are in very good form now. And they will be more confident in the second match as well. I consider the New Zealand team as the favorite in the second test match.

New Zealand is best team in test format recently they perform very outclassed cricket by Winning the first test match by huge margin again South Africa. I think South Africa have potential to strong bounce back in second test match that played at seddon park at 13 February and South Africa have ability to win it and level the series by 1-1 if they played impressive cricket in both bowling and batting department.

The second match has been start between south Africa and New Zealand .South Africa won the toss and chose batting frist , From South Africa team  N. Brand and R. van Tonder to bat first ,N Brand made 25 run and lose their wicket and R. van Tonder also same made 35 run lose has wicket and C Fortuin will get out for zero runs.And now D Bedingham and z Hamza has  come to the partnership, now he both  has to perform well in batting to stand  for a big score.

[libert19]

New update on the squad:  KL Rahul is ruled out for the 3rd test. Paddikal is his replacement.

Ok Paddikal is replacement but in playing XI, it's Sarfraz Khan to replace Rahul's batting position, also I heard people shortforming (if it's even word) Devdutt Paddikal to DDP which I find pretty dope, I know it's obvious now, but didn't cross my mind before. Plus, Dhruv Jurel is to replace KS Bharat for wicket keeping position.

^ posted by Indian express, but they have source named (source being, Devendra Pandey), so I like to believe it's true, let's see in match how it goes.

Hope these two make their impact for chance they have been given.

Patidar also likely gonna stay in playing XI due to Kohli still being out, while I hope Sundar will get chance in playing XI too, I just have that soft corner for all-rounders 

[Sithara007]

Ok Paddikal is replacement but in playing XI, it's Sarfraz Khan to replace Rahul's batting position, also I heard people shortforming (if it's even word) Devdutt Paddikal to DDP which I find pretty dope, I know it's obvious now, but didn't cross my mind before. Plus, Dhruv Jurel is to replace KS Bharat for wicket keeping position.

^ posted by Indian express, but they have source named (source being, Devendra Pandey), so I like to believe it's true, let's see in match how it goes.

Hope these two make their impact for chance they have been given.

Patidar also likely gonna stay in playing XI due to Kohli still being out, while I hope Sundar will get chance in playing XI too, I just have that soft corner for all-rounders 

Padikkal has been in terrific form so far in the Ranji Trophy. And it will be a big disappointment for him, in case he is overlooked in favor of Sarfraz Khan. BTW, I agree with the choice of Dhruv Jurel. BTW, more interesting is the question of Kuldeep Yadav. Will he get the nod ahead of Axar Patel? Ravichandran Ashwin seems to be confirmed anyway. And I would advice the Indians to go with just one pacer. But they seems to be adamant about Akash Deep making his debut in the third test.

[Bureau]

Disappointing start by South Africa, they have already lost 6 wickets on the first day. Not many runs on the scoreboard, just 220 runs. Ironically South Africa won the toss and took batting, looks like a bad decision to me. Rachin Ravindra had a good first test will the bat and now is having a good time with the ball, took 3 wickets on day 1.

[libert19]

Ok Paddikal is replacement but in playing XI, it's Sarfraz Khan to replace Rahul's batting position, also I heard people shortforming (if it's even word) Devdutt Paddikal to DDP which I find pretty dope, I know it's obvious now, but didn't cross my mind before. Plus, Dhruv Jurel is to replace KS Bharat for wicket keeping position.

^ posted by Indian express, but they have source named (source being, Devendra Pandey), so I like to believe it's true, let's see in match how it goes.

Hope these two make their impact for chance they have been given.

Patidar also likely gonna stay in playing XI due to Kohli still being out, while I hope Sundar will get chance in playing XI too, I just have that soft corner for all-rounders 

Padikkal has been in terrific form so far in the Ranji Trophy. And it will be a big disappointment for him, in case he is overlooked in favor of Sarfraz Khan. BTW, I agree with the choice of Dhruv Jurel. BTW, more interesting is the question of Kuldeep Yadav. Will he get the nod ahead of Axar Patel? Ravichandran Ashwin seems to be confirmed anyway. And I would advice the Indians to go with just one pacer. But they seems to be adamant about Akash Deep making his debut in the third test.

Sarfraz also deserves his chance. Regarding Axar, the only way I seem him getting dropped is India decides to replace him with Sundar. Regarding Kuldeep Yadav, he can have his place even without all-rounder getting dropped, look at this playing XI:

Jaiswal, Rohit,Gill, Patidar, Sarfraz, Jurel, Axar, Ashwin, Yadav, Bumrah, Akash deep

Personally, it looks perfect playing XI to me, I'd drop Akash deep and add Sundar as replacement but India is likely gonna go with two pacers so let it be. Though, I'm quite curious to see how well Akash Deep performs.

Also, we gonna see Ashwin complete his 500 wickets milestone in next game.