Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[cryptoWODL]

India won because all these youngsters wanted to prove a point to the selectors. That made them out perform themselves which in turn helped India. Jaiswal has cemented his position in the test team after yesterday. Sarfaraz will be selected for the next test match and Jurel will again get an opportunity. Consistency is not a big issue with this team there are good days and bad days that every player has to face.

Jaiswal and Sarfraz Khan were among the best batting performances of the young players in India's third Test match. Sarfraz Khan won the selectors' hearts with his good batting when he got a chance in the team, maybe he will be in the Indian XI in the next Test match. However, a young Indian player, Rajat Patidar, was given a chance to prove himself in two Test matches but failed to do so.He was given the opportunity to play two Test matches and failed to score a half-century in either of them, Rajat Patidar's highest score of 32 in an innings in a Test match was essentially his highest score of the Test series, so he may lose his place in the next Test match.

[3kpk3]

Look at India in this 3rd test's 1 inning, India was in miserable position (28-4, similar happened to Engalnd in 2nd inning) and from there Rohit-Jadeja bring India back to excellent position.

I believe it was 28-3 after which Rohit and Jadeja stabilised their innings through their experience. Epic recovery!

India will do fine, we used to think what'll India be without players like Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Dhoni etc, what happened? Replaced. Although, I agree sometimes we miss their presence on field, but that attachment too soon fades away.

Somewhat true. I noticed that MSD started preparing for the upcoming IPL 2024 season in the nets and this is the last time we will get to see this legend play any form of cricket. Some attachments never fade away with time.

[JSRAW]

The younger players are inconsistent now, but they might improve and perform way more consistently in the future. Also, Pant might return too which would be a big boost.

Consistency will come with more experience. Look at the players. Yashasvi Jaiswal is just 22 years old. Shubman Gill is 24. Even Shreyas Iyer is still in his 20s. Rishabh Pant would be a good addition to the squad as well, and he is in his mid 20s. And then we have all the younger players who are still in bench, such as Sarfaraz Khan (26 years old) and Abhimanyu Easwaran (28 years). These players can only improve with time. Even the second string keepers, including Anuj Rawat, Jitesh Sharma and Dhruv Jurel are all in their early 20s. 

Iyer is not getting a spot in the team for the 2024 home season.  After the England series, we have 5 more home tests against Bangladesh and New Zealand. His only hope would be if someone gets injured in the middle order. Don't forget Kohli will also join the team.

Dhruv Jurel already impressed many with his test batting (he was a proven talent with the bat in the T-20) and with the gloves he did fumble a few chances in the first inning but he was on the money in the last inning so i believe he'll get a long rope of 5-6 tests in India. Bharat will now warm the bench or some young keeper will replace him in the squad, which won't be a bad idea.   

Yuvraj, Dhoni etc, what happened? Replaced. Although, I agree sometimes we miss their presence on field, but that attachment too soon fades away.

You might be talking about the overall transition period but in red-ball cricket, Yuvraj was mediocre at best. Dhoni was good at the start but in the latter part of his career, he was the uninspiring skipper because he just didn't want to play test cricket or lead the test team. His only achievement was preparing Kohli to take the reign.

[Bureau]

India won because all these youngsters wanted to prove a point to the selectors. That made them out perform themselves which in turn helped India. Jaiswal has cemented his position in the test team after yesterday. Sarfaraz will be selected for the next test match and Jurel will again get an opportunity. Consistency is not a big issue with this team there are good days and bad days that every player has to face.

Jaiswal and Sarfraz Khan were among the best batting performances of the young players in India's third Test match. Sarfraz Khan won the selectors' hearts with his good batting when he got a chance in the team, maybe he will be in the Indian XI in the next Test match. However, a young Indian player, Rajat Patidar, was given a chance to prove himself in two Test matches but failed to do so.He was given the opportunity to play two Test matches and failed to score a half-century in either of them, Rajat Patidar's highest score of 32 in an innings in a Test match was essentially his highest score of the Test series, so he may lose his place in the next Test match.

Patidar would be replaced in the next test and in most probable case it should be by KL Rahul as hinted by Rohit. Sarfaraz, Jurel would be retained as they have been impressive with bat. Jurel keeping has been good the run out of Duckett was very good. I doubt Bharat would get another opportunity now as Jurel is far better than him. Jaiswal will now be the permanent opener for India in the test matches.

[MusaPk]

Consistency will come with more experience. Look at the players. Yashasvi Jaiswal is just 22 years old. Shubman Gill is 24. Even Shreyas Iyer is still in his 20s. Rishabh Pant would be a good addition to the squad as well, and he is in his mid 20s. And then we have all the younger players who are still in bench, such as Sarfaraz Khan (26 years old) and Abhimanyu Easwaran (28 years). These players can only improve with time. Even the second string keepers, including Anuj Rawat, Jitesh Sharma and Dhruv Jurel are all in their early 20s. 

Yashasvi Jaiswal spot in test cricket is reserved because of his two double centuries in two consecutive test matches. I am not sure about Shubman Gill, he has already played 23 test matches and he is not very consistent in batting. He has scored 91 runs in last test which means he has secured his spot for this series at least. 
It was England second biggest defeat in terms of runs and heaviest in 90 years. England should have scored at least 250 runs in second innings to avoid such humiliation.

[JSRAW]

Yashasvi Jaiswal spot in test cricket is reserved because of his two double centuries in two consecutive test matches. I am not sure about Shubman Gill, he has already played 23 test matches and he is not very consistent in batting. He has scored 91 runs in last test which means he has secured his spot for this series at least.  
It was England second biggest defeat in terms of runs and heaviest in 90 years. England should have scored at least 250 runs in second innings to avoid such humiliation.

There is no such thing as reserved or permanent in the Indian team and it is also true for Jaiswal or other young batters, considering many are waiting in the wings.

One recent example is another stylish opener, Mayank Aggrawal, he had the same success as Jaiswal when he made his debut in Australia in 2018, he impressed everyone and in his first 13 innings (10 tests) he was averaging 65 with 2 daddy 200s + 1 ton and 3 50s but in the next 12 test match he hit a rough patch (still had another daddy 100 and 2 50s under his belt in the rough patch) and now he's nowhere near the test squad.

Gill was about to face the axe after 2nd test but he made 100 and saved his position, his recent 91 runs inning also gave him an extra 4-5 tests long rope and maybe add the next Australia tour as well.  

The point is, the Indian system is tough because of competition and when you get early success then you have to perform consistently for the next 10-15 tests as well otherwise someone else will replace you.

[Jateng]

India won because all these youngsters wanted to prove a point to the selectors. That made them out perform themselves which in turn helped India. Jaiswal has cemented his position in the test team after yesterday. Sarfaraz will be selected for the next test match and Jurel will again get an opportunity. Consistency is not a big issue with this team there are good days and bad days that every player has to face.

Right youngster team played like a king in first test match both youngster performance very well. Yashasvi Jaiswal who played an excellent inning of double hundred and helped india to set a big lead for England. England team failed and only scored just 122 runs all out and India won it by huge margin. Ravindra Jadeja very impactfull player took five wickets. I hope England will Comeback in the next game.

[AirtelBuzz]

I am not sure about Shubman Gill, he has already played 23 test matches and he is not very consistent in batting. He has scored 91 runs in last test which means he has secured his spot for this series at least.   

Shubman Gill is a great batsman as we have seen in many matches, maybe he is not in good form at present which is why he is batting poorly in this Test series. Shubman Gill is a consistent batsman as we all know that he got a chance to play 43 innings in 23 Test matches in his career where he scored 1232 runs. Shubman Gill has three centuries and five half-centuries in his Test career and has a batting average of 32.3 which is ideal for a Test player at such a young age.

[elevates]

There is no such thing as reserved or permanent in the Indian team and it is also true for Jaiswal or other young batters, considering many are waiting in the wings.

Gill was about to face the axe after 2nd test but he made 100 and saved his position, his recent 91 runs inning also gave him an extra 4-5 tests long rope and maybe add the next Australia tour as well.  

The point is, the Indian system is tough because of competition and when you get early success then you have to perform consistently for the next 10-15 tests as well otherwise someone else will replace you.

You are right there is nothing like a permanent position in the Indian team until a player plays like Rohit or Kohli. They have a proven track record and the cricketing world acknowledges them. I still think Jaiswal will have more opportunities than Gill as he has now joined the League of Legends after scoring back-to-back 200 runs. This is how Rohit Sharma became a legend and so did Virat Kohli, if he gets another double century as two more tests are yet to be played then he will cement his position as long as no one is challenging him in test cricket as an opener. Gill has been struggling it is visible and he might not get a berth in the team when Kohli is back unless he keeps on getting those runs as he has done in the last two innings.

[Haunebu]

The point is, the Indian system is tough because of competition and when you get early success then you have to perform consistently for the next 10-15 tests as well otherwise someone else will replace you.

This is one of the reasons why more and more cricketers are shifting their time and resources to the T20 format since they stand to earn more money and popularity in a way shorter period without worrying too much about other factors.

Honestly, I would do the same because time is money. Test cricket is great for several reasons, but it requires a huge time+effort investment.

[synchronym]

India won because all these youngsters wanted to prove a point to the selectors. That made them out perform themselves which in turn helped India. Jaiswal has cemented his position in the test team after yesterday. Sarfaraz will be selected for the next test match and Jurel will again get an opportunity. Consistency is not a big issue with this team there are good days and bad days that every player has to face.

Right youngster team played like a king in first test match both youngster performance very well. Yashasvi Jaiswal who played an excellent inning of double hundred and helped india to set a big lead for England. England team failed and only scored just 122 runs all out and India won it by huge margin. Ravindra Jadeja very impactfull player took five wickets. I hope England will Comeback in the next game.

Yashasvi Jaiswal did not bat very well in the first innings in the third test match of India vs England. Yashasvi Jaiswal got out for only 10 runs. But Yashasvi Jaiswal batted brilliantly in the second innings. In the third test match, Yashasvi Jaiswal scored 214 runs from 236 balls in the second innings Yashasvi Jaiswal is unbeaten in the third test. The way he performed in the second innings in the match was amazing. His game looked like he was playing at ODI level. Yashasvi Jaiswal made a big contribution in beating England by a huge margin in the third test match. But if England's batsmen could have batted well in the second innings, maybe the match against India would not have been lost by a huge margin of 434 runs. The only reason England lost against India by a huge margin of 434 runs in the third Test was England's poor batting. So England team should give their best performance in the fourth test match and try to win against India in the fourth test match.

[LDL]

The point is, the Indian system is tough because of competition and when you get early success then you have to perform consistently for the next 10-15 tests as well otherwise someone else will replace you.

This is one of the reasons why more and more cricketers are shifting their time and resources to the T20 format since they stand to earn more money and popularity in a way shorter period without worrying too much about other factors.

Honestly, I would do the same because time is money. Test cricket is great for several reasons, but it requires a huge time+effort investment.

Another reason behind the shift of cricketers to the T20 format is that most of the county leagues in the T20 format include Big Bash, IPL, PSL, BPL, Caribbean League, SA_20, and dozens of other leagues, resulting in a constant demand for players in the T20 format. That is why most of the players retire from ODI format and Test format but do not retire easily from T20 format.

[elevates]

Another reason behind the shift of cricketers to the T20 format is that most of the county leagues in the T20 format include Big Bash, IPL, PSL, BPL, Caribbean League, SA_20, and dozens of other leagues, resulting in a constant demand for players in the T20 format. That is why most of the players retire from ODI format and Test format but do not retire easily from T20 format.

Yeah that can be one of the reason but not many T20 players can play test cricket. Test cricket needs a lot of patience, stamina and skills. The same can be talked for 50 over cricket, whereas in T20 it is a matter of few overs. When players retire they continue to play T20 as it doesn't need them to be on ground a full day. They only need to be on the ground for a few hours which their bodies can adapt to easily.

[libert19]

Crickbuzz [1] reports Bumrah is set to rest for 4th test and Rahul was to come back in 4th test, so I make obvious assumption that Rahul will replace Bumrah, and rest of squad will remain same since they did well in 3rd. Rahul wasn't to wickekeep anyway, so Jurel's position remains intact.

Let's see how they do without Bumrah, personally I find him consistent than Siraj.


https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/129540/jasprit-bumrah-set-to-be-rested-for-ranchi-test

Edit: I forgot about Patidar, he has performed poorly, might not get further chances. If he's out, KL will replace Patidar and Akash Deep may come in at place of Bumrah.

[JSRAW]

^^ The kind of pitches Indians are rolling in the series, i believe Bumrah should play the remaining 2 matches.

The point is, the Indian system is tough because of competition and when you get early success then you have to perform consistently for the next 10-15 tests as well otherwise someone else will replace you.

This is one of the reasons why more and more cricketers are shifting their time and resources to the T20 format since they stand to earn more money and popularity in a way shorter period without worrying too much about other factors.

Honestly, I would do the same because time is money. Test cricket is great for several reasons, but it requires a huge time+effort investment.

Turning into IPL might solve financial problems but playing for India remains a dream for everyone, that's why the majority of them keep doing hard yards in the domestic circuit for years.

The process goes like this : Break records in SMAT and some franchises will give you a chance. Break records in Ranji and SMAT then franchises will pick you up and some might even fight for you during auction bid war because their scouts do their homework and Indian selectors will keep an eye on you and if the opportunity comes then the possibility of India debut.

There is a reason that now BCCI is doubling down on players to focus on domestic cricket, they even signalled capped players that if they are free and fit then go and play for your respective state board.

[Haunebu]

Turning into IPL might solve financial problems but playing for India remains a dream for everyone, that's why the majority of them keep doing hard yards in the domestic circuit for years.

Money > Dreams for most people which is why those hard workers would instantly shift to leagues like the IPL if they got an opportunity.

There is a reason that now BCCI is doubling down on players to focus on domestic cricket, they even signalled capped players that if they are free and fit then go and play for your respective state board.

BCCI is weird as hell. On one hand, they are primarily responsible for the whole crazy T20 boom in recent times and they are enforcing all of this stuff suddenly on the other hand. Bizarre!

[wiss19]

The point is, the Indian system is tough because of competition and when you get early success then you have to perform consistently for the next 10-15 tests as well otherwise someone else will replace you.

This is one of the reasons why more and more cricketers are shifting their time and resources to the T20 format since they stand to earn more money and popularity in a way shorter period without worrying too much about other factors.

Honestly, I would do the same because time is money. Test cricket is great for several reasons, but it requires a huge time+effort investment.

I have to talk about few things with current system is good but if we have centralization then surely things can go better and improved because as currently we are having money in Indian cricket if Government of India give them status of industry it's also going to be fruitful as they will be able to have more benefit and also helpful for the many other sports associations as well there is too much money in this game and now every youngster having dream of playing into IPL, but this all is not possible so they need to work on domestic setup and bring good competitions with too many teams which will be also having enough money and competitiveness.

Ranji Trophy and IPL are going to be trademarked for the domestic leagues and also going to have huge investments as well which will allow BCCI to manage things and have strong structure and stadiums as well.

[lixer]

Another reason behind the shift of cricketers to the T20 format is that most of the county leagues in the T20 format include Big Bash, IPL, PSL, BPL, Caribbean League, SA_20, and dozens of other leagues, resulting in a constant demand for players in the T20 format. That is why most of the players retire from ODI format and Test format but do not retire easily from T20 format.

Yeah that can be one of the reason but not many T20 players can play test cricket. Test cricket needs a lot of patience, stamina and skills. The same can be talked for 50 over cricket, whereas in T20 it is a matter of few overs. When players retire they continue to play T20 as it doesn't need them to be on ground a full day. They only need to be on the ground for a few hours which their bodies can adapt to easily.

No one having doubt about beauty of the test format, but recently we have good changes with the help of T20I and bazball bring significant changes and its beauty is going to be at his best even many are feeling it is not real cricket but no one can stop these changes and these were needed as well now aggression and politeness both are doing good job, and we have good entertaining stuff like we have in third test match of India vs England series hopefully youths will be delivered like we have from Jaiswal and Gill will be also having good performance in coming matches, but they need to be in touch because skipping this format is surely not good deal for all fans and cricketers need to be had good things in this game after very long bore era IPL bring historic changes and things are now at new level.

[JSRAW]

Turning into IPL might solve financial problems but playing for India remains a dream for everyone, that's why the majority of them keep doing hard yards in the domestic circuit for years.

Money > Dreams for most people which is why those hard workers would instantly shift to leagues like the IPL if they got an opportunity.

If you didn't earn the Indian colors then it's tough. Generally, if you are not capped player then apart from the IPL, you will play domestic as well. 

There is a reason that now BCCI is doubling down on players to focus on domestic cricket, they even signalled capped players that if they are free and fit then go and play for your respective state board.

BCCI is weird as hell. On one hand, they are primarily responsible for the whole crazy T20 boom in recent times and they are enforcing all of this stuff suddenly on the other hand. Bizarre!

Yeah, you can say that but BCCI has to look at the bigger picture. Domestic cricket is factory and cream players get to play for India. IPL is a bonus for them and it's same for many talented individuals from the domestic who are unable to cement their position in the national side because of competition, it could be any format.

If the domestic system gets weakened, the national team will face the same music and it's directly connected to IPL as it's money-making product because you need Indian talents and star value for your product. In recent times, a few capped players started to neglect Ranji, etc for IPL despite being free from the national team. It didn't sit well with the BCCI, hence the recent dictate.

[JahriMeayer]

3rd test match was one of the remarkable test match for india where they won by 434 runs against England. India Played well in their 1st & 2nd innings but i don't like England performance in batting & bowling both sector, they did worse. I wonder about indian batsman, they were busy to prove their ability by keep making runs. Yashasvi Jaiswal, Ravindra Jadeja, Rohit Sharma all of them archive century and Yashasvi Jaiswal made double century even he was injured after 100 runs. But i feel sad for Shubman Gill as he was too to make century. And i think Sarfaraz Khan had bad luck cause he played great but due to lack of overs, we couldn't see him to reach the century in both innings. On the other hand, England played worst in 2nd inning which was unexpected. Without Ben Duckett contribution, england experienced how hard it was, for making runs