2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[goinmerry]

Without Lassiter, SMB's performance remain the same.

I don't think so. They are not as cohesive and I think the SMB head coach has been experimenting a lot in the first four games of this series. With Lassiter in the line up, SMB may be 3-1 up by now.  

So you believed Lassiter is the game-changer? lol. You are really a die-hard SMB fan or maybe you believed on that because you have funds that currently at stake in the SMB side. He is the counterpart of Chris Ross and no way Austria will always put these 2 on the floor at the same time. His disappearance honestly makes Austria thinks of a better lineup since he will not destroy the starters. SMB is not always an unstoppable team like others look at this team for the past conferences.

TNT is just playing good. Let's admit that even what's our favorites. Even an SMB fan look at that way.

Not exactly a game-changer but an important piece for SMB. If you take out an important piece in any team, that will be a big deal because they'll have to change their style of play significantly.

I did not know that a simple statement of what could have happened triggered you so much which made you draw a lot of conclusions.

On the other hand, even Lassiter is there, do you think TNT will not make any adjustments?

Too much expectation for Lassiter without realizing that TNT is really playing good this Finals. Ohh I'm wrong, since the start of the Conference.

Yes, he is good. No doubt about that. And yes a big loss but not that big. SMB is the most complete team in the PBA that even their bench players are not trash. But even Lassiter is there, it's not an assurance that SMB will now be on 3-1 lead.

It's like saying that TNT is complete trash because they are nothing against SMB if Lassiter is not there. For sure, even he is there, TNT will found a way to deal with him at any cost.

Funny that you focused on the 3-1 but never saw the word MAY in my original post. That means it is a possible outcome. Since when did may become the equivalent of assurance?

Your possible outcome is difficult to imagine. It's like saying that TNT is nothing if Lassiter was there for SMB.

Lots of SMB fans out there but you are the only one I saw who thinks of that possible outcome. Nothing wrong though. I'm here for a healthy debate.

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[carlfebz2]

I loved how Game 4 turned out. Refs didn't spoil the intense action while the clock is ticking down. That's what I want to see so that no questions will have arisen after the game. Salute to both teams for playing hard and gave their fans what's the action on Finals should be.

This is what i do love to see and most basketball fans where they are entertained and satisfied on the outcome without any issues or controversies after.
Why not try to gamble with your neighborhood instead unless if there are other locals here would make the deal? Seems like majority is with TNT.

[Ranly123]

Without Lassiter, SMB's performance remain the same.

I don't think so. They are not as cohesive and I think the SMB head coach has been experimenting a lot in the first four games of this series. With Lassiter in the line up, SMB may be 3-1 up by now.  

So you believed Lassiter is the game-changer? lol. You are really a die-hard SMB fan or maybe you believed on that because you have funds that currently at stake in the SMB side. He is the counterpart of Chris Ross and no way Austria will always put these 2 on the floor at the same time. His disappearance honestly makes Austria thinks of a better lineup since he will not destroy the starters. SMB is not always an unstoppable team like others look at this team for the past conferences.

TNT is just playing good. Let's admit that even what's our favorites. Even an SMB fan look at that way.

Not exactly a game-changer but an important piece for SMB. If you take out an important piece in any team, that will be a big deal because they'll have to change their style of play significantly.

I did not know that a simple statement of what could have happened triggered you so much which made you draw a lot of conclusions.

On the other hand, even Lassiter is there, do you think TNT will not make any adjustments?

Too much expectation for Lassiter without realizing that TNT is really playing good this Finals. Ohh I'm wrong, since the start of the Conference.

Yes, he is good. No doubt about that. And yes a big loss but not that big. SMB is the most complete team in the PBA that even their bench players are not trash. But even Lassiter is there, it's not an assurance that SMB will now be on 3-1 lead.

It's like saying that TNT is complete trash because they are nothing against SMB if Lassiter is not there. For sure, even he is there, TNT will found a way to deal with him at any cost.

Funny that you focused on the 3-1 but never saw the word MAY in my original post. That means it is a possible outcome. Since when did may become the equivalent of assurance?

Your possible outcome is difficult to imagine. It's like saying that TNT is nothing if Lassiter was there for SMB.

Lots of SMB fans out there but you are the only one I saw who thinks of that possible outcome. Nothing wrong though. I'm here for a healthy debate.

Talking about Lassiter, he really does make a big impact on the plays for SMB. Not that TNT is nothing if Lassiter played the series but it's more likely their chance of winning the championship will narrow down.

[goinmerry]

Talking about Lassiter, he really does make a big impact on the plays for SMB. Not that TNT is nothing if Lassiter played the series but it's more likely their chance of winning the championship will narrow down.

Agree to that. I'm not against it. Lassiter is good and PBA fans know how great his offense is. He is part of the solid lineup of SMB since then. No question about that.

I just disagree with the idea of "possible outcome" of 3-1 lead for SMB if Lassiter is there. Still, I believed it will be to 2-2 even with Lassiter was there and if SMB won the champs it will be 4-3. TNT can match the SMB even Lassiter is there. Plays and rotation of TNT will be different too.

Still a close match in the end and we can't say early who's the one will prevail.

[bisdak40]

Talking about Lassiter, he really does make a big impact on the plays for SMB. Not that TNT is nothing if Lassiter played the series but it's more likely their chance of winning the championship will narrow down.

Agree to that. I'm not against it. Lassiter is good and PBA fans know how great his offense is. He is part of the solid lineup of SMB since then. No question about that.

I just disagree with the idea of "possible outcome" of 3-1 lead for SMB if Lassiter is there. Still, I believed it will be to 2-2 even with Lassiter was there and if SMB won the champs it will be 4-3. TNT can match the SMB even Lassiter is there. Plays and rotation of TNT will be different too.

Still a close match in the end and we can't say early who's the one will prevail.

That's what i also observe in this series, it's close and yet unpredictable on who will win the next game. After four games we have the pattern that neither team can win two in a row so i think game 5 belong to the TNT Katropa. The disadvantage of the Katropa in this series is that they have a very short rotation as coach Ravena is fielding only 7 of his players and fatigue would be a factor as always on end game.

[Nellayar]

Without Lassiter, SMB's performance remain the same.

I don't think so. They are not as cohesive and I think the SMB head coach has been experimenting a lot in the first four games of this series. With Lassiter in the line up, SMB may be 3-1 up by now.  

So you believed Lassiter is the game-changer? lol. You are really a die-hard SMB fan or maybe you believed on that because you have funds that currently at stake in the SMB side. He is the counterpart of Chris Ross and no way Austria will always put these 2 on the floor at the same time. His disappearance honestly makes Austria thinks of a better lineup since he will not destroy the starters. SMB is not always an unstoppable team like others look at this team for the past conferences.

TNT is just playing good. Let's admit that even what's our favorites. Even an SMB fan look at that way.

Lassiter is a deadly player of SMB. He is a key player in fact. But look how Pessumal and Romeo play on court. They can fill up the position for Marcio. Honestly, TNT will hardly defeat the SMB if Lassiter is here. Because I think all three point shot came from RR or Rosario can be neglected if Lassiter will be their defender. Since we all know that he is really tough in defense. But right now, the play of SMB still good even Lassiter is injured and not in the court.

[chaser15]

Lassiter is a deadly player of SMB. He is a key player in fact. But look how Pessumal and Romeo play on court. They can fill up the position for Marcio. Honestly, TNT will hardly defeat the SMB if Lassiter is here. Because I think all three point shot came from RR or Rosario can be neglected if Lassiter will be their defender. Since we all know that he is really tough in defense. But right now, the play of SMB still good even Lassiter is injured and not in the court.

And vice versa. SMB with complete lineup will hardly defeat TNT too.

Remember that this conference is not an All Filipino Conference. Import factor is a must.

[mirakal]

Line is available now, TNT is still the favorites and it hasn't change despite SMB won the last game, for the SMB believers here, it's time to bet on SMB monelyline with 2.41 or if you are not quite sure, just take the +4.5 at 1.84 (just increase with price boost)...SMB -3.5 at 3 is also good.

Good luck for tonight's game, this game I'm gonna go against the SMB and will take -4.5.

[Fredomago]

Line is available now, TNT is still the favorites and it hasn't change despite SMB won the last game, for the SMB believers here, it's time to bet on SMB monelyline with 2.41 or if you are not quite sure, just take the +4.5 at 1.84 (just increase with price boost)...SMB -3.5 at 3 is also good.

Good luck for tonight's game, this game I'm gonna go against the SMB and will take -4.5.

Seems to be a good tip for tonight game, each time TNT win the game they  always above 10+ points edge so that handicap can be a trapped in case that TNT will proceed and continue chasing the win, but in case fate brings different outcome and SMB make another adjustment to go inside Jones head then chance for them to snatch this game 5 is possible, it's Jones that they need to workout if they manage to lock him up or to control his game plus their locals will contribute well then maybe they can change the tempo of this series.

[Questat]

Line is available now, TNT is still the favorites and it hasn't change despite SMB won the last game, for the SMB believers here, it's time to bet on SMB monelyline with 2.41 or if you are not quite sure, just take the +4.5 at 1.84 (just increase with price boost)...SMB -3.5 at 3 is also good.

Good luck for tonight's game, this game I'm gonna go against the SMB and will take -4.5.

Seems to be a good tip for tonight game, each time TNT win the game they  always above 10+ points edge so that handicap can be a trapped in case that TNT will proceed and continue chasing the win, but in case fate brings different outcome and SMB make another adjustment to go inside Jones head then chance for them to snatch this game 5 is possible, it's Jones that they need to workout if they manage to lock him up or to control his game plus their locals will contribute well then maybe they can change the tempo of this series.

The problem is for the last 4 games, they were not able to find any solution to stop Jones, he still made a good performance in overall.
I'm not expecting them to limit Jones, I'm expecting the SMB to improve their outside shooting so they can compete with the TNT's hot shooting outside.

[V1saya]

Just saw this few hours ago. This is what Directbet eu doing few years ago. Predicting the exact score on both teams. By the way I pick TNT to win 4-2.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=104453590917338&id=104428510919846

[joshy23]

Lassiter is a deadly player of SMB. He is a key player in fact. But look how Pessumal and Romeo play on court. They can fill up the position for Marcio. Honestly, TNT will hardly defeat the SMB if Lassiter is here. Because I think all three point shot came from RR or Rosario can be neglected if Lassiter will be their defender. Since we all know that he is really tough in defense. But right now, the play of SMB still good even Lassiter is injured and not in the court.

And vice versa. SMB with complete lineup will hardly defeat TNT too.

Remember that this conference is not an All Filipino Conference. Import factor is a must.

The import play a big role from this conference, having a good one like Jones makes a big gap between the two competing teams, though there's still a good chance for SMB to keep staying from the series and not to be left behind, they need to play good rotations from offensive to defensive stats, best of luck to all the fans who place their bets now.

[Muzika]

Lassiter is a deadly player of SMB. He is a key player in fact. But look how Pessumal and Romeo play on court. They can fill up the position for Marcio. Honestly, TNT will hardly defeat the SMB if Lassiter is here. Because I think all three point shot came from RR or Rosario can be neglected if Lassiter will be their defender. Since we all know that he is really tough in defense. But right now, the play of SMB still good even Lassiter is injured and not in the court.

And vice versa. SMB with complete lineup will hardly defeat TNT too.

Remember that this conference is not an All Filipino Conference. Import factor is a must.

The import play a big role from this conference, having a good one like Jones makes a big gap between the two competing teams, though there's still a good chance for SMB to keep staying from the series and not to be left behind, they need to play good rotations from offensive to defensive stats, best of luck to all the fans who place their bets now.

SMB is on the top when it comes to roosters and they are on top on toughest teams but when there is an import it really change the game like what TNT did, they acquired a legit NBA Player Jones and he really bring the team on this situation. Let us see who will be getting closer to the championship tonight.

[asu]

Anyone watching the game 5 here?

1st quarter ended:
TNT  - 28 points
SMB - 22 points

TNT lead 6 points at first quarter and it was an intense game. Toe to toe physical game. Just managed to watch at the time that Romeo missed he’s 3 points shoot, overall nice start for TNT.

[Distinctin]

Anyone watching the game 5 here?

1st quarter ended:
TNT  - 28 points
SMB - 22 points

TNT lead 6 points at first quarter and it was an intense game. Toe to toe physical game. Just managed to watch at the time that Romeo missed he’s 3 points shoot, overall nice start for TNT.

I can't watch it live so I'm just monitoring the scores, it's 49-45 now, TNT is leading with only 4 points, so this is gonna be a good 2nd half as the game is close. I also like to put a bet on live betting, SMB is +6.5 at 1.57 odds, I think SMB will cover the points if they are unfortunate to loss tonight.

What do you think about that bet?

[peter0425]

We’re on the 3rd quarter now as I am typing this post and it seems that still TNT is dominating the game,at first 1st quarter we saw the closeness of each scores but now SMB is leaving behind
Hoping that Junmark Fajardo will continue he’s ways of helping his team,and if that happen the chance of having game 7 will be theirs .anyway Goodluck to all our bets guys and looking for game 7 finals for a bigger bet to set

[Ranly123]

Anyone watching the game 5 here?

1st quarter ended:
TNT  - 28 points
SMB - 22 points

TNT lead 6 points at first quarter and it was an intense game. Toe to toe physical game. Just managed to watch at the time that Romeo missed he’s 3 points shoot, overall nice start for TNT.

I can't watch it live so I'm just monitoring the scores, it's 49-45 now, TNT is leading with only 4 points, so this is gonna be a good 2nd half as the game is close. I also like to put a bet on live betting, SMB is +6.5 at 1.57 odds, I think SMB will cover the points if they are unfortunate to loss tonight.

What do you think about that bet?

They can't seem to stop Jones that's why SMB is in a +6.5 but I believe they can find ways to win this match. It would be a matter of how long Jones can sustain his stamina for the remainder of the game.

[Bttzed03]

TNT once again is getting a lot of offensive boards. SMB cannot win this if they keep giving the opponent a lot of second chance points. Kudos to TNT for hustling, they'll win game 5 if they can keep this up for the entire 4th quarter.

[asu]

4th quarter and is now 3 2 minutes remaining.

TNT - 93 94
SMB - 89 91 93 95 99 - wins the game 5

1 point lead.

Logs

Code:

1.03.5: Jump ball with 1 minute remaining and a 1 point lead for TNT.
0.33.2: SMB called a timeout. TNT still up for 1 point.
0.26.5: Mc Cullough scores 2 points. SBM has now takes the lead with 1 point.
0.13.3: Terence Jones missed a shot, free throw for TNT and now 3 points lead.
0.00.0: SMB wins the game 5, panalo na :D

[Bttzed03]

Woooowwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!

Despite the multiple possessions of TNT with 1 point lead, they could not convert. Kudos to Standhardinger for putting up a great defense on Jones. SMB experience was evident in this game, they kept their composure after being down by as much as 16 points.