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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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December 16, 2019, 09:32:19 AM
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It's tough to predict since the odds is slowly swaying it can be a trapped to those who are still not convinced to which team they will going to place their money. I don't have any idea who's going to stand up since both teams are good and considering that they are also sister company who both wanted to win this conference title. Expecting to have a very close game unlike what happened with GSM and NorthPort.

There are bettors which still undecided on which team to bet but after game1 in which Katropa won, expect odds to favor the TNT Katropa to win in game2.

The bad thing about this series is they don't have any update before tip-off regarding the injury of Roger Pogoy but i saw him play on that game. That may also be the reason why the odds of the game slowly swaying. Anyways, it's only game1 and as usual, adjustments will be made so expect a tougher game2 on Tuesday.

Both import scored 30+ points but TNT's local were contributing well compared to the meralco's total, and we can also noticed about the improvement of their defense, and it looks like Meralco are having a problem with them in game 1, it was well dominated by TNT though it ended only in single digit in the end.

Hopefully the adjustment you are saying will happen in game 2..

BTW, odds for game 2 between Ginebra and NP are out.

1.42 Gins vs 2.72 NP. ATS. NO is +5.5 now.



Even with the blowout victory in game one, the ginkings was still the favorite in this match-up. Anyways, Northport has good chance to steal game two but I doubt if it would still be the same results game on. I'm sure Tim Cone will have the adjustment for this match though. I would be betting for Ginebra this time.

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December 16, 2019, 09:51:56 AM
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BTW, odds for game 2 between Ginebra and NP are out.
1.42 Gins vs 2.72 NP. ATS. NO is +5.5 now.



I got balls, I play the with the Northport BIG TIME!


Quite nice if NP will do the same thing from the last time they met, though adjustment will be place for GSM, as we keep seeing the changes from the odds, something fishy with the bookmakers side I guess. But if you are aiming for higher outcome why not to try high risk bet and wait for luck to comes up.  I'll be with NP but with handicap of +8.5 @ 1.80. Good luck.

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December 16, 2019, 10:29:55 AM
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NP but with handicap of +8.5 @ 1.80. Good luck.

This is scary, either Ginebra will win tonight because the line were adjusted pretty hard or it's just a trap so people will keep putting their money on the Ginebra. Everyone knows that ginebra has a big fan base and they will bet on their teams regardless of what happen in game 1.

Good luck, winning 11+ would give great return if the same thing would happen in game 1.
you just need at least 11 points to win that bet.

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December 16, 2019, 11:18:58 AM
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Ginebra had a good run now, 29-18, they are leading by 11 points in the 1st quarter alone.
Will the NP rally in the 2nd quarter and make it a close game? it looks like if there is really a syndicate, they want the Ginebra to win the game tonight.

Will update after the game,.. for now, let's watch this entertaining game.

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December 16, 2019, 11:44:28 AM
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Looks like what is happening now is the opposite of game 1.
I can't understand why the live betting now is Ginebra -9.5 when they are up by 24 points.
maybe this is what we called as a gift or just an error?




Damn ... I was wrong. it was a 2nd quarter bet and I took it..

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December 16, 2019, 11:49:48 AM
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Looks like what is happening now is the opposite of game 1.
I can't understand why the live betting now is Ginebra -9.5 when they are up by 24 points.
maybe this is what we called as a gift or just an error?




Damn ... I was wrong. it was a 2nd quarter bet and I took it..

And your bet lose,.. sorry for your loss mate, that was a costly mistake, maybe you got too excited when seeing the line and it was late when you read that it was for the 2nd quarter only.  Looking at the picture, it's kinda tricky as no handicap for the full game shown.

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December 17, 2019, 07:54:34 AM
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Ginebra had a good run now, 29-18, they are leading by 11 points in the 1st quarter alone.
Will the NP rally in the 2nd quarter and make it a close game? it looks like if there is really a syndicate, they want the Ginebra to win the game tonight.

Will update after the game,.. for now, let's watch this entertaining game.

That first quarter really did set the tone of the match for the Kings. They did well defensively on Qualls who got scoreless in the first quarter and got only 3 points on the second canto. Good adjustment on the Ginebra side but we can expect also an adjustment on the side of NorthPort on game3 and hope it won't be a lopsided ballgame.



Meanwhile on the series between the Bolts and Katropa, currently Bolts is the slight favorite on the bookies with an odds of 1.76 while TNT is at 2.03. Seems the bettors are thinking that this game2 belong to the Bolts  Smiley.

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December 17, 2019, 10:13:26 AM
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Ginebra had a good run now, 29-18, they are leading by 11 points in the 1st quarter alone.
Will the NP rally in the 2nd quarter and make it a close game? it looks like if there is really a syndicate, they want the Ginebra to win the game tonight.

Will update after the game,.. for now, let's watch this entertaining game.

That first quarter really did set the tone of the match for the Kings. They did well defensively on Qualls who got scoreless in the first quarter and got only 3 points on the second canto. Good adjustment on the Ginebra side but we can expect also an adjustment on the side of NorthPort on game3 and hope it won't be a lopsided ballgame.



Meanwhile on the series between the Bolts and Katropa, currently Bolts is the slight favorite on the bookies with an odds of 1.76 while TNT is at 2.03. Seems the bettors are thinking that this game2 belong to the Bolts  Smiley.

Both now are 1.68, looks like the money is now again flowing for the Bolts.
We saw this on the Gins vs NP last night when the spread increase in favor of the Ginebra, we might see another scenario tonight?

Are the bolts going to tie the series tonight?
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December 17, 2019, 10:23:38 AM
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Ginebra had a good run now, 29-18, they are leading by 11 points in the 1st quarter alone.
Will the NP rally in the 2nd quarter and make it a close game? it looks like if there is really a syndicate, they want the Ginebra to win the game tonight.

Will update after the game,.. for now, let's watch this entertaining game.

That first quarter really did set the tone of the match for the Kings. They did well defensively on Qualls who got scoreless in the first quarter and got only 3 points on the second canto. Good adjustment on the Ginebra side but we can expect also an adjustment on the side of NorthPort on game3 and hope it won't be a lopsided ballgame.



Meanwhile on the series between the Bolts and Katropa, currently Bolts is the slight favorite on the bookies with an odds of 1.76 while TNT is at 2.03. Seems the bettors are thinking that this game2 belong to the Bolts  Smiley.

As expected for the ginkings. A big adjustment on their side also winning a huge margin for their revenge. I think game 3 will go down the wire and Ginebra will once again be the Victor. Though Northport will have their adjustment but they will definitely run out of gas in the end. I will go for Ginebra on game 3 though.

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December 17, 2019, 10:56:38 AM
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Five minutes to go, Meralco now is -2.5 but I will not bet on them right now, again I will wait for the live betting to see if they are doing better tonight compared to the last game. Last time I lose on live betting, I got fooled, lol, but hopefully this time I will make the right guess.

my strategy here is I will wait until Meralco will trail like 5-10 points and will take the ML, that way I can get a better odds.

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December 17, 2019, 11:19:52 AM
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Five minutes to go, Meralco now is -2.5 but I will not bet on them right now, again I will wait for the live betting to see if they are doing better tonight compared to the last game. Last time I lose on live betting, I got fooled, lol, but hopefully this time I will make the right guess.

my strategy here is I will wait until Meralco will trail like 5-10 points and will take the ML, that way I can get a better odds.

The score now is 29-11, if Meralco would win in this game, it looks like it will be hard for you to find the timing you are looking.

This is a bounce back game, don't expect that Meralco will have a bad start.

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December 17, 2019, 12:20:33 PM
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Five minutes to go, Meralco now is -2.5 but I will not bet on them right now, again I will wait for the live betting to see if they are doing better tonight compared to the last game. Last time I lose on live betting, I got fooled, lol, but hopefully this time I will make the right guess.

my strategy here is I will wait until Meralco will trail like 5-10 points and will take the ML, that way I can get a better odds.

The score now is 29-11, if Meralco would win in this game, it looks like it will be hard for you to find the timing you are looking.

This is a bounce back game, don't expect that Meralco will have a bad start.

It's worse now, 63-29 at the half time, this game has become a joke, fans watching this will not be entertain as it's a one sided game.

Booked it, it's already 1-1 and series is tied now, if only there's a big limit on Meralco 26+, i might win a decent amount in this game.

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December 17, 2019, 11:12:36 PM
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And the series is now tied. final score.114-94, Bolts win by 20 points.

This time, Durham were able to carry his team but also thanks to the contribution of the locals who scores double digit, specially Amer.
Missing factor of the TNT is pogoy, he was held scoreless in this game with only 5 attempts (0-5).
I'm expecting that in game 3 it would be more intense and will result to a close game, and OT could be possible.

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December 17, 2019, 11:58:15 PM
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And the series is now tied. final score.114-94, Bolts win by 20 points.

This time, Durham were able to carry his team but also thanks to the contribution of the locals who scores double digit, specially Amer.
Missing factor of the TNT is pogoy, he was held scoreless in this game with only 5 attempts (0-5).
I'm expecting that in game 3 it would be more intense and will result to a close game, and OT could be possible.

The missing factor is not only Pogoy but the whole team. Other members of the local squad should also contribute.

Despite the loss, TNT's import still shows a monstrous strength. I consider Game 2 as boring and already decided which is not a good match we want to see especially at the Semi-Finals match.

A game later between Ginebra and Northport. I'm expecting a close fight with these 2 teams as Game 3 is the most crucial part of a Best-of-5 series after a tied. Their Game 1 and 2 match doesn't even come to a close battle.
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December 17, 2019, 11:59:43 PM
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And the series is now tied. final score.114-94, Bolts win by 20 points.

This time, Durham were able to carry his team but also thanks to the contribution of the locals who scores double digit, specially Amer.
Missing factor of the TNT is pogoy, he was held scoreless in this game with only 5 attempts (0-5).
I'm expecting that in game 3 it would be more intense and will result to a close game, and OT could be possible.

I don't know what happen to Pogoy but it's not his usual self. With only five attempts, there should be something going through his mind or maybe it's about fatigue he's dealing with.

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December 18, 2019, 04:01:01 AM
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And the series is now tied. final score.114-94, Bolts win by 20 points.

This time, Durham were able to carry his team but also thanks to the contribution of the locals who scores double digit, specially Amer.
Missing factor of the TNT is pogoy, he was held scoreless in this game with only 5 attempts (0-5).
I'm expecting that in game 3 it would be more intense and will result to a close game, and OT could be possible.

I don't know what happen to Pogoy but it's not his usual self. With only five attempts, there should be something going through his mind or maybe it's about fatigue he's dealing with.
Probably he is not 100% yet,  he should be making more attempts especially shooting 3s as that is his role to the team.
Let's just say it's another off night by him and let's expect a bounce back game in game 3, a close game would be really fun to watch especially if its schedule on weekends.

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December 18, 2019, 05:44:01 AM
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And the series is now tied. final score.114-94, Bolts win by 20 points.

This time, Durham were able to carry his team but also thanks to the contribution of the locals who scores double digit, specially Amer.
Missing factor of the TNT is pogoy, he was held scoreless in this game with only 5 attempts (0-5).
I'm expecting that in game 3 it would be more intense and will result to a close game, and OT could be possible.

I don't know what happen to Pogoy but it's not his usual self. With only five attempts, there should be something going through his mind or maybe it's about fatigue he's dealing with.
Chance that he's not in the mood or f good shape as he is not that productive. Players even with high percentage shooting range also have bad night. He's contribution affects the entire team they need to adjust and play the game with good chemistry and dedication to win and take the lead from the series. It's anybody's ball game no one knows who's going to advanced and grab the final slot.

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December 18, 2019, 07:09:43 AM
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I don't know what happen to Pogoy but it's not his usual self. With only five attempts, there should be something going through his mind or maybe it's about fatigue he's dealing with.
His not in 100% playing condition maybe because of his recent back injury before starting this semi-final series game 1 is good game by pogoy but on game 2 he got scoreless which is not his usual performance lets see what will happen in Game3 with his performance which I think really affects talkntext scoring points. 

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December 18, 2019, 08:24:38 AM
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I don't know what happen to Pogoy but it's not his usual self. With only five attempts, there should be something going through his mind or maybe it's about fatigue he's dealing with.
His not in 100% playing condition maybe because of his recent back injury before starting this semi-final series game 1 is good game by pogoy but on game 2 he got scoreless which is not his usual performance lets see what will happen in Game3 with his performance which I think really affects talkntext scoring points. 

It's not only Pogoy who's not 100%, even Castro is playing through pain. This will favor the Bolts if this series will reach game5 as injury to these players will take it's toll on them.

https://www.pba.ph/news/castro-pogoy-playing-through-pain

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December 18, 2019, 09:02:09 AM
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I don't know what happen to Pogoy but it's not his usual self. With only five attempts, there should be something going through his mind or maybe it's about fatigue he's dealing with.
His not in 100% playing condition maybe because of his recent back injury before starting this semi-final series game 1 is good game by pogoy but on game 2 he got scoreless which is not his usual performance lets see what will happen in Game3 with his performance which I think really affects talkntext scoring points. 

It's not only Pogoy who's not 100%, even Castro is playing through pain. This will favor the Bolts if this series will reach game5 as injury to these players will take it's toll on them.

https://www.pba.ph/news/castro-pogoy-playing-through-pain

If that is the case then the katropa might fall early in the series, maybe until game four if they can't recover from this injury. Both Pogoy and Castro are the heart and soul for the texters so if they can't recover then this series is done.

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