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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
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February 06, 2020, 12:06:04 PM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.

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February 06, 2020, 12:40:59 PM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.
He will not be force come back to the court if the management doesn't see him healthy (in 100% condition).
Probably it can affect his confidence but it can come back with the help of his fans. We know how much fans "Kraken" has. For me, I think he will come back to the court next conference which is the Governor's cup.

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February 06, 2020, 12:59:59 PM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.
He will not be force come back to the court if the management doesn't see him healthy (in 100% condition).
Probably it can affect his confidence but it can come back with the help of his fans. We know how much fans "Kraken" has. For me, I think he will come back to the court next conference which is the Governor's cup.
Hopefully he will, but I am just saying the possibility that he will not get back his usual old self easily, it will take time for sure and he will not right away given his usual minutes too. We know Fajardo is their best player and therefore the defense will be focus more on him, and grabbing at least 10 rebounds per game means he is working hard inside.

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February 06, 2020, 01:46:54 PM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.
He will not be force come back to the court if the management doesn't see him healthy (in 100% condition).
Probably it can affect his confidence but it can come back with the help of his fans. We know how much fans "Kraken" has. For me, I think he will come back to the court next conference which is the Governor's cup.
Hopefully he will, but I am just saying the possibility that he will not get back his usual old self easily, it will take time for sure and he will not right away given his usual minutes too. We know Fajardo is their best player and therefore the defense will be focus more on him, and grabbing at least 10 rebounds per game means he is working hard inside.

Let's hope that this will not be more serious than it should be! Fajardo is a big addition in his team as we see him the best player in the league now.
Not just that, we must hope for fast recovery and he must be placed in the team for the international competition.
This is an all-Filipino cup now, and having San Miguel with Fajardo is the league's best choice. hoping to see him on the court with 5-peat for SMB.

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February 06, 2020, 01:56:37 PM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.
Depends on him if how he will take this and if his desire to continue forcing himself to prove more, I guess with his achievements he doesn't need
to prove anything and he's also aging so after this operations he can either be back as healthy and good or he can also be there just to finish his
contract and enjoy his paychecks.
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February 06, 2020, 06:53:17 PM
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SMB fans should just accept that Fajardo should be sitting out at least one conference to have him fully healthy at the next conference which is Commissioner's Cup. No need to be full force and trust their other players instead.

No offense to SMB but they treat Fajardo as the most special player baby on the team. Remember when Fajardo is interested in playing at the international league but SMB did not allow him as injury might be struck him that might affect their PBA campaign. And besides, SMB is still a strong team even without Fajardo on-board as the next conference is between PH to PH players.

SMB will do anything to take care of their players and that rule applies to all SMB teams e.g Ginebra, Magnolia.
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February 06, 2020, 07:59:42 PM
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The 6th straight All-Filipino Cup title for San Miguel Beermen will surely much tougher to achieve now that their main man June Mar Fajardo will be out for the whole conference.

This is the best time now to show their critics that the Beermen is not just all about Fajardo when it comes to All-Filipino. We all know that on every Philippine Cup, Beermen is known for always dominating the league and they are holding the title for 5 straight years. Most PBA enthusiasts always predict that the Beermen will be a champion every All-Filipino because no doubt that no one in the league can stop Fajardo which is also accompanied by most of the best-known gunners in the league.

I've remembered the last time I bet against the Beermen on All-Filipino Cup finals. It was against Alaska and I will surely bag some nice and decent profits if Alaska will snatch a series title against these Giants. Alaska is doing great at that conference and they able to pin down the Beermen on a 3-0 lead at the Finals. Just 1 more win for the championship but the Beermen bounce back on a 4 straight win. If I remember, Beermen pushed Fajardo to play which plays a big role in why the outcome has changed. Even playing at a minor injury, Fajardo still dominates the paint. Really a monster.

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February 06, 2020, 09:29:54 PM
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SMB fans should just accept that Fajardo should be sitting out at least one conference to have him fully healthy at the next conference which is Commissioner's Cup. No need to be full force and trust their other players instead.

The remaining SMB players are still intact and I see that they also have a big chance to acquired the PH cup title. There is still a long time of preparation to cover Fajardo's loss and that time is enough to organize plays.

I'm seeing more playing time now for the veteran Billy Mamaril. Tautuaa and Russel can also fill the Center position. Arwind Santos is also a versatile player and can play post up at Power Forward position. Still, SMB has lots of options.

I think Fajardo will not be able to play at full health on the Commissioners Cup. I think he needs to come back to the final conference which is the Governors Cup.

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February 06, 2020, 10:10:12 PM
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Is there any information about the full details of Fajardo's injury? What I see on some news sources do have the same content.

I hate to say this but SMB always gives few details regarding Fajardo's injury even in the past. They just said that its a leg injury with no specific medical term. In UAAP and NCAA, if there's an injury on their player, it was well-detailed and the time of possible recovery period was also mentioned.

Is this a coincidence that SMB is just protecting Fajardo not to play on the upcoming international league? FIBA Asia qualifiers will take place starting on February 20 and PH do have a match on that day while their second game is on 23rd.
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Is there any information about the full details of Fajardo's injury? What I see on some news sources do have the same content.

I hate to say this but SMB always gives few details regarding Fajardo's injury even in the past. They just said that its a leg injury with no specific medical term. In UAAP and NCAA, if there's an injury on their player, it was well-detailed and the time of possible recovery period was also mentioned.

Is this a coincidence that SMB is just protecting Fajardo not to play on the upcoming international league? FIBA Asia qualifiers will take place starting on February 20 and PH do have a match on that day while their second game is on 23rd.
They don't say much about when he will return but he is out indefinitely, here's some specific details that you might want to know.

source : https://www.pba.ph/news/fajardo-suffers-leg-injury-out-indefinitely
"Fajardo, according to the Beermen, suffered a "complete fracture on his right tibia" during team practice last Feb. 3, needing surgical procedure and a long rehab to get back to optimum health."

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February 07, 2020, 05:53:38 AM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.
Depends on him if how he will take this and if his desire to continue forcing himself to prove more, I guess with his achievements he doesn't need
to prove anything and he's also aging so after this operations he can either be back as healthy and good or he can also be there just to finish his
contract and enjoy his paychecks.
True Filipino will always be fighting no matter what. It is nothing compared to all the sacrifices of him and his team  to win the game. I know that he will be back again for his fans and for his passion in basketball. This isn't something about money for him its about his love for Basketball.
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source : https://www.pba.ph/news/fajardo-suffers-leg-injury-out-indefinitely
"Fajardo, according to the Beermen, suffered a "complete fracture on his right tibia" during team practice last Feb. 3, needing surgical procedure and a long rehab to get back to optimum health."

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Ouch! What a bad news for the Beermen and its fans out there. Who's gonna replace him as their center knowing that CStand is traded already? Kelly Nabong? Arwin? It might work but not as strong as Abay could offer tho. Hmm, now I can smell that SMB will not bring home the bacon of this year's conference huh, what do you think guys? I say so because what I noticed is that SMB are more vulnerable when he is not around, the defense in the paint and rebounding of their tram is greatly affected without him.

Let's hope for Fajardo's fast recovery Sad.
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February 07, 2020, 08:02:23 AM
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but he will be suffering operation and i think this will take longer time of getting better again,as the team will surely not allowing Him to be Forced playing because he can do more action in future and not just this All Filipino Conference,there are lot of Games to Come for junMar.

And when he comes back, there is no assurance that he will be as confident as he was since usually when a player got injured, underdgo an operation, it will affect their confidence as they will be afraid to be injured again.

That is the bad thing about injuries.

It will not just hurt you physically but it will eat you up emotionally as you would always worry about how you move and how you play. As a player, you really need to hustle but we can't do anything when this happens but to pray that he can quickly get back to the court. As far as I know, this recovers at 4 to 6 months including rehab. Hope the Beermen can hold on while he's in there.
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February 07, 2020, 08:39:48 AM
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This isn't something about money for him its about his love for Basketball.
That two would always go together, they are playing hard to get noticed and to get good contract, and Fajardo is the highest paid player in the PBA right now, so I am sure he already got a lot of money with his journey if he know how to save, but I don't want his journey to end like this, hopefully he will come back strong like the other players  in the NBA like Paul George and Derrick Rose.

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February 07, 2020, 01:07:49 PM
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Lets change the topic a bit. Smiley

First topic:
I have browsed youtube a while ago I have watched a video regarding the new rule that the Commissioner created and he said that "If a player will skip the PBA Draft for 2 consecutive seasons then the player will be ban permanently in the PBA. If a player is eligible already in PBA draft but he choose to skip to draft himself to be drafted for 2 consecutive years then he will receive a total ban from PBA.

We know that Thirdy Ravena chose not to be drafted last 2019 PBA draft for some reasons and he also commented on this saying that "There must be a considerations to this rule."


Second topic:
I just recently watched a video again on youtube and I saw that there is a trade that happened between NorthPort and Ginebra.
A trade consist of Greg Slaughter and their Rookie Jerick Balanza in exchange of Christian Standhardinger.
Do you think it is a fair trade between the 2 teams??

Any opinion with this?

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Lets change the topic a bit. Smiley

First topic:
I have browsed youtube a while ago I have watched a video regarding the new rule that the Commissioner created and he said that "If a player will skip the PBA Draft for 2 consecutive seasons then the player will be ban permanently in the PBA. If a player is eligible already in PBA draft but he choose to skip to draft himself to be drafted for 2 consecutive years then he will receive a total ban from PBA.

We know that Thirdy Ravena chose not to be drafted last 2019 PBA draft for some reasons and he also commented on this saying that "There must be a considerations to this rule."
 
 I believe that the Commissioner has a valid reason why he has to do this rule change regarding this Draft pick.  He needs to keep the intensity of the PBA by continuously recruiting excellent Filipino players.  And talented players refusing to be drafted just because they do not want the team that will pick them is not being professional and will eventually weaken the very core of the Philippines Basketball League.  BTW, are you referring to this video?

Second topic:
I just recently watched a video again on youtube and I saw that there is a trade that happened between NorthPort and Ginebra.
A trade consist of Greg Slaughter and their Rookie Jerick Balanza in exchange of Christian Standhardinger.
Do you think it is a fair trade between the 2 teams??

Any opinion with this?

I think it is a fair trade.  Trade between two teams happens if both teams see an advantage over it.  Probably each team saw a good use for the player in order to strengthen their own team.  Remember Basketball is not a one-man show and can't be won by one player alone.  One team can give up one of their best players to remove the possible conflict or overlapping skills on their team exchanging them to the player that can fill the gap or hole on their team.

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February 07, 2020, 01:59:45 PM
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Lets change the topic a bit. Smiley

First topic:
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no comment on the first topic, I am not interested with Thirdy Ravena right now.


Second topic:
I just recently watched a video again on youtube and I saw that there is a trade that happened between NorthPort and Ginebra.
A trade consist of Greg Slaughter and their Rookie Jerick Balanza in exchange of Christian Standhardinger.
Do you think it is a fair trade between the 2 teams??

Any opinion with this?

This favors the Ginebra San Miguel, Standhardinger is still on his prime now while Slaughter might not be like his usual self, he is not earning much minutes with the Ginebra as they very predictable with him in the Floor. If they'll get C stand, they will become a good contender in the all Filipino cup, C stand and Japeth will be unstoppable in the inside and we know Standhardinger can run on fast plays, Slaughter can't.

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February 07, 2020, 09:54:10 PM
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Lets change the topic a bit. Smiley

First topic:
I have browsed youtube a while ago I have watched a video regarding the new rule that the Commissioner created and he said that "If a player will skip the PBA Draft for 2 consecutive seasons then the player will be ban permanently in the PBA. If a player is eligible already in PBA draft but he choose to skip to draft himself to be drafted for 2 consecutive years then he will receive a total ban from PBA.

We know that Thirdy Ravena chose not to be drafted last 2019 PBA draft for some reasons and he also commented on this saying that "There must be a considerations to this rule."

I've also read this topic in social media. Maybe the reason why Commissioner Marcial brought out and emphasized this rule because i think he saw just so many worthy candidates for the draft that skip, it's not only Ravena. The likes of Munson and Jason Brickman can make an impact on the PBA but they did not join the league yet. I have a feeling that those players intentionally skip the 2019 draft because of the "Gilas special draft", they don't want to play for the National team. 

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February 07, 2020, 10:57:21 PM
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First topic:
I have browsed youtube a while ago I have watched a video regarding the new rule that the Commissioner created and he said that "If a player will skip the PBA Draft for 2 consecutive seasons then the player will be ban permanently in the PBA. If a player is eligible already in PBA draft but he choose to skip to draft himself to be drafted for 2 consecutive years then he will receive a total ban from PBA.

Without any personal or serious reason for skipping on that, I agree with the new rule.

It should have no exception no matter how great or talented the player is. On the other hand, it's just applied to PBA so those players will still have a chance to be part of the national team for the international league or other local leagues.

I also agree that there should be a consideration. Maybe we can see the whole terms about this for us to discuss what should be those things that can be considered? Anyone with the link? I try to search for it but as we know PBA does have limited information showing the public the whole info of any rules.

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February 08, 2020, 09:34:25 AM
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NorthPort was suppose to be a good team in the all Filipino cup as they have C Stand and got Nabong back in the line up, however, their support from the young and aggressive players are still not available. I am talking about Jonathan Grey and Robert Bollick, these two are still recovering from an injury and they will not be available next conference.

Injuries nowadays are really making the PBA less exciting to watch, maybe because the commissioner allows a more physical play?

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