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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
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January 08, 2020, 04:37:18 PM
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The key players for Meralco to win this series are Almazan and Maliksi. They have the experience and leadership to take the team into the championship. If Ginebra locks these two players down, the championship will surely go to the Gin Kings. But if these two performs, couple with the scoring capabilities of Durham, they can give Ginebra one hell of a fight.
The thing that concerns me is Meralco is that their point guard Amer has been put to the bench I guess for the rest of the 4th quarter and that surely lacks the offensive awareness of the team. I know that he lacks the defensive capability but his help with the offense especially on the crucial seconds that they have chance/s to tie or take the lead that for sure has helped them. Well, let just see what Game 2 can bring and what are the coaches' strategies this time around.
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January 08, 2020, 05:59:44 PM
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The key players for Meralco to win this series are Almazan and Maliksi. They have the experience and leadership to take the team into the championship. If Ginebra locks these two players down, the championship will surely go to the Gin Kings. But if these two performs, couple with the scoring capabilities of Durham, they can give Ginebra one hell of a fight.
The thing that concerns me is Meralco is that their point guard Amer has been put to the bench I guess for the rest of the 4th quarter and that surely lacks the offensive awareness of the team. I know that he lacks the defensive capability but his help with the offense especially on the crucial seconds that they have chance/s to tie or take the lead that for sure has helped them. Well, let just see what Game 2 can bring and what are the coaches' strategies this time around.
That's noticeable not sure why Norman Black let him rest for quite some time, he's been cold after he returned and unable to deliver those last few shots.
Newsome played well in the final quarter but not enough to power the team up. This key players needs to adjust and be more aggressive in game number 2 in order to tied up the series.
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January 09, 2020, 01:38:50 AM
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The thing that concerns me is Meralco is that their point guard Amer has been put to the bench I guess for the rest of the 4th quarter and that surely lacks the offensive awareness of the team. I know that he lacks the defensive capability but his help with the offense especially on the crucial seconds that they have chance/s to tie or take the lead that for sure has helped them. Well, let just see what Game 2 can bring and what are the coaches' strategies this time around.

Amer is horribly shooting at the field so Black benched him to see if others can fill the hole.

The problem with Game 1 on Meralco is bench production. Looking at the stats is horrible and unacceptable. They wasted the production of Newsome, Almazan, and Durham. If only at least 1 or 2 players coming from the bench step up they have a chance to win that game. It's only a 4 point lead. Painful loss with that kind of small lead.

As usual, they already know what to do and see if that will changed in Game 2.
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January 09, 2020, 02:13:39 AM
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The thing that concerns me is Meralco is that their point guard Amer has been put to the bench I guess for the rest of the 4th quarter and that surely lacks the offensive awareness of the team. I know that he lacks the defensive capability but his help with the offense especially on the crucial seconds that they have chance/s to tie or take the lead that for sure has helped them. Well, let just see what Game 2 can bring and what are the coaches' strategies this time around.

Amer is horribly shooting at the field so Black benched him to see if others can fill the hole.

The problem with Game 1 on Meralco is bench production. Looking at the stats is horrible and unacceptable. They wasted the production of Newsome, Almazan, and Durham. If only at least 1 or 2 players coming from the bench step up they have a chance to win that game. It's only a 4 point lead. Painful loss with that kind of small lead.

As usual, they already know what to do and see if that will changed in Game 2.

I expect an adjustment in game 2, they have seen a lot in game 1 and this is a long series so we can see a lot of adjustments along the way.
Game 1 was a close 1 but we can't expect that game 2 is still a close one, probably it's still going to be a low scoring team as both teams are more focus on their defense, though I lose my first game bet but I am still thankful as I bet on the Ginebra to win the series, but it's a long series, no sense to celebrate early.

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January 09, 2020, 02:14:05 AM
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The problem with Game 1 on Meralco is bench production.
That probably is, looking at the rotation is most of the minutes allocated are only to their key players and the situation is those key players are exhausted with the minutes they spent on the court. I just read an article stating that this time around Game 2 wouldn't probably the same as Coach Norman Black will use his bench players more often but the probability that Durham is used as it was is likely a 100%, they can't win without him IMO.
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January 09, 2020, 02:39:59 AM
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The problem with Game 1 on Meralco is bench production.
That probably is, looking at the rotation is most of the minutes allocated are only to their key players and the situation is those key players are exhausted with the minutes they spent on the court. I just read an article stating that this time around Game 2 wouldn't probably the same as Coach Norman Black will use his bench players more often but the probability that Durham is used as it was is likely a 100%, they can't win without him IMO.
The same with the Ginebra Kings, they can't win without Brownlee. (in the figure below, Ginebra looks to rely more on their import)
https://www.pba.ph/recap?match=1480250

The top 3 scorers for Meralco are the following :

Durham 25 points
Almazan 20 points
Newsome 24 points.

While for the kings

Brownlee 38 points
Aguilar 16 points
Tenorio 14 points

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January 09, 2020, 04:27:28 AM
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For the championship, yes GSM has the upper hand but if I will bet for each game, game 2 will be for meralco and I'm sure they can adjust their plays. I think this series will reach game 6 or game 7 for GSM.
for me this is too early to tell that GSM is on the Ups for championship because we have just watch the game 1 and there are 6 more games left(if the season make up to 7 games)and Bolts is showing good as well so i think this game will be one of the best championship in PBA.

and also like what have said above me,Bench scoring is what meralco needs to develop if they want to take the trophy from Ginebra.









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January 09, 2020, 11:47:38 AM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

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January 09, 2020, 01:30:22 PM
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The problem with Game 1 on Meralco is bench production.
That probably is, looking at the rotation is most of the minutes allocated are only to their key players and the situation is those key players are exhausted with the minutes they spent on the court. I just read an article stating that this time around Game 2 wouldn't probably the same as Coach Norman Black will use his bench players more often but the probability that Durham is used as it was is likely a 100%, they can't win without him IMO.
The same with the Ginebra Kings, they can't win without Brownlee. (in the figure below, Ginebra looks to rely more on their import)
https://www.pba.ph/recap?match=1480250

The top 3 scorers for Meralco are the following :

Durham 25 points
Almazan 20 points
Newsome 24 points.

While for the kings

Brownlee 38 points
Aguilar 16 points
Tenorio 14 points
Though stats showed like that but the key players of GSM make their moves in the final quarter and make a huge impact to help lifting the team to win. Adjustment will surely be noticed in this coming game 2, Coaches will try to review and find those lapses from both sides.
Expect Meralco to bring the ball more in the hands of Durham and let him played the way he's really known.
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January 09, 2020, 01:39:14 PM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

The line is shouting MERALCO and I think they'll win this time around.
Although it's the same team and they are not playing in their home court like the NBA but people are expecting Meralco will be able to even the series in game 2, so the line is like that, however, for those who still believe Ginebra can win this, they have to take the odds right now.
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January 09, 2020, 02:48:06 PM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

The line is shouting MERALCO and I think they'll win this time around.
Although it's the same team and they are not playing in their home court like the NBA but people are expecting Meralco will be able to even the series in game 2, so the line is like that, however, for those who still believe Ginebra can win this, they have to take the odds right now.

PBA is business and there's no surprise if Meralco will win since Ginebra will throw that game until it reach to game 7 we already see that on previous finals they always do that to accumulate more money from the game that's why I hate to bet on every game and prefer to bet on race to 4.

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January 09, 2020, 10:14:30 PM
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PBA is business and there's no surprise if Meralco will win since Ginebra will throw that game until it reach to game 7 we already see that on previous finals they always do that to accumulate more money from the game that's why I hate to bet on every game and prefer to bet on race to 4.

That was always the speculation but sometimes I disagree with that as in some of the cases you will see that both teams are serious in winning a particular game in the finals. Last conference finals, TNT vs SMB is doing everything to win on every match. It was ended on Game 6.

On the upcoming Game 2, watch the game closely and if you see both teams are putting effort, then erased the speculation. It's easy to tell if one team is allowing the other team to win just to extend the series.
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January 09, 2020, 10:54:06 PM
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PBA is business and there's no surprise if Meralco will win since Ginebra will throw that game until it reach to game 7 we already see that on previous finals they always do that to accumulate more money from the game that's why I hate to bet on every game and prefer to bet on race to 4.

That was always the speculation but sometimes I disagree with that as in some of the cases you will see that both teams are serious in winning a particular game in the finals. Last conference finals, TNT vs SMB is doing everything to win on every match. It was ended on Game 6.

On the upcoming Game 2, watch the game closely and if you see both teams are putting effort, then erased the speculation. It's easy to tell if one team is allowing the other team to win just to extend the series.

It can never be proven that the game is rigged, but we can make based on our own judgement.
Me, I've been a fan of the PBA for a long time and based on my observation, there are some games that I feel it's rigged so I usually think twice when the line is too good to be true, just like this line, Ginebra beat the Bolts in game 1 and now they are the underdog, so I am thinking also that Meralco could possibly win this.

Every sports are corrupt since there's always millions or billions of money betting on them, and that could affect the reputation of the organization especially when there are corrupt officials inside.

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January 10, 2020, 12:31:17 AM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.
I'm a little bit curious why the odds is favor now on Ginebra even they already won the first game. So, majority expecting a 1-1 series.

When I saw this, I'm a little bit disappointed coz I'm about to put my bets on the side of Meralco Bolts, but after I saw this, I think I'll put my bet once the game begins and the odds for Meralco will change even a little bit.

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January 10, 2020, 03:01:51 AM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

The line is shouting MERALCO and I think they'll win this time around.
Although it's the same team and they are not playing in their home court like the NBA but people are expecting Meralco will be able to even the series in game 2, so the line is like that, however, for those who still believe Ginebra can win this, they have to take the odds right now.

PBA is business and there's no surprise if Meralco will win since Ginebra will throw that game until it reach to game 7 we already see that on previous finals they always do that to accumulate more money from the game that's why I hate to bet on every game and prefer to bet on race to 4.
It's already part of the business, both teams can deal with it and consider the do or die as the real one that have value previous 6 games can be
discuss. We can't blames those fans who already noticed this kind of possibilities since PBA's reputations already been damage by this rumor  manipulations coming from the league itself.

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January 10, 2020, 08:08:37 AM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

For me this is normal and i think that online bookies were also doing research/study on the game or even watched the previous game.

They are into this business for some time so i think they have adjusted and think that Meralco would win game 2 and it's nothing to do with game fixing, it's just their call, they may be  correct or not. Just my thought.


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January 10, 2020, 08:17:42 AM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?




it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

For me this is normal and i think that online bookies were also doing research/study on the game or even watched the previous game.

They are into this business for some time so i think they have adjusted and think that Meralco would win game 2 and it's nothing to do with game fixing, it's just their call, they may be  correct or not. Just my thought.



I like to follow your bet in game 2, do you think Meralco -3.5 is a good bet?

If they are in a business, they should make things possible to extend this series to 7 games as much as possible.

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January 10, 2020, 08:25:51 AM
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it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

Game 1 is a close game and maybe bookies think that Meralco will be able to make adjustments and win this game. That could be right or maybe this is a trap by the bookies.

Anyway, I think Ginebra will still win this game. It will be a 2-0, I am just biased because I am a Ginebra fun.
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January 10, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
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So game 2 line is now live, what do you think about the current line?
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it's the opposite of the game 1 line, does it mean the Meralco Bolts will be able to even the series?
I like to hear your thoughts about this because personally I feel after the game tomorrow, this series will be even.

For me this is normal and i think that online bookies were also doing research/study on the game or even watched the previous game.

They are into this business for some time so i think they have adjusted and think that Meralco would win game 2 and it's nothing to do with game fixing, it's just their call, they may be  correct or not. Just my thought.


If they are in a business, they should make things possible to extend this series to 7 games as much as possible.

The "online bookies", that's what i mean, they are into this business and they don't have control over the PBA.

I like to follow your bet in game 2, do you think Meralco -3.5 is a good bet?

Honestly, i'm splitting my bet. Half is into ML while the other half is with a handicap. The way i see it, it would be another close game, so to be safe i put something on the moneyline.



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January 10, 2020, 08:46:04 AM
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Honestly, i'm splitting my bet. Half is into ML while the other half is with a handicap. The way i see it, it would be another close game, so to be safe i put something on the moneyline.


So you confirm that you are betting on the Meralco in this game?

Well, I think I will have to follow you now as I think you know better and you followed the PBA much than me.

I am getting 1.73 ml on Meralco and 1.92 on -2.5

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