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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
Total Voters: 117

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July 11, 2022, 05:09:01 PM
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Now Real Madrid can forget about Klyan Mbappe and the striker position belongs to Vini as written in Marca.

I don't see any relation between Vinicius and playing as a striker. Because his main positions are left and right wings. He played as a striker in his career for only seven times and he must have played like that because of some problems too. Vinicius is effective only when he plays as a winger. He has played like this in 189 matches so far. He has scored 46 goals and made 45 assists. I don't expect Real Madrid to ruin his performance by making him play as a striker any time. As a result, I still expect Mbappe to be transferred later on.
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July 11, 2022, 05:13:55 PM
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https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/fc-barcelona/20220710/1001834607/laporta-mendes-sellaron-estrategia-bernardo-silva.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=futbol
Barcelona's rumour about trying to sign Bernardo Silva seems like real. Mundo Deportivo also shows that Barcelona are really after him now. However this deal could be very expensive for Barcelona at the same time. Because his contract ends in three years and has a value of 80 million euros in the transfer market. I wouldn't expect Manchester City to demand an amount way below his value now. As Barcelona are after Raphinha also I don't think they can afford both of them.
I don't really understand what Barcelona are doing at the moment. They are currently in a very crazy crisis but they are preparing to spend huge sums of money now because if their current transfers are still being rumored against Lewandowski, Raphinha and B. Silva then it is not less than 200 million they have to prepare.
Will they repeat the burial of themselves like last season?
They were even in arrears on the players' salaries, and now they were preparing to do something unreasonable.

I think there is likely to be a repeat of what happened a few months back. They had to get rid of Lionel Messi, he was the best player in Barcelona, not to mention the finest player in the world. And the way Barcelona is trying to handle the money situation I think reducing the salary of players is not going to work. Barcelona will have to let some players go again. I obviously hope that it doesn’t happen. However, the way Barcelona is trying to make so many costly transfers I don’t think there will be any other options if they continue spending their money like that.

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July 11, 2022, 05:38:35 PM
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I think there is likely to be a repeat of what happened a few months back. They had to get rid of Lionel Messi, he was the best player in Barcelona, not to mention the finest player in the world. And the way Barcelona is trying to handle the money situation I think reducing the salary of players is not going to work. Barcelona will have to let some players go again. I obviously hope that it doesn’t happen. However, the way Barcelona is trying to make so many costly transfers I don’t think there will be any other options if they continue spending their money like that.
I don't think any of us will understand what's in Joan Laporta's head. Barca are in fact in a period of financial crisis but their desire to buy more players in the transfer market really makes fans confused.

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Barca's optimism stems from reports claiming the City star wants to play for Barcelona, however, the Premier League champions are likely to demand a fee in the region of £85 million which as a standalone deal, would prove challenging.

doesn't this make no sense for barca LOL

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July 11, 2022, 06:10:42 PM
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Now Real Madrid can forget about Klyan Mbappe and the striker position belongs to Vini as written in Marca.
I don't see any relation between Vinicius and playing as a striker. Because his main positions are left and right wing. He played as a striker in his career for only seven times and he must have played like that because of some problems too. Vinicius is effective only when he plays as a winger. He has played like this in 189 matches so far. He has scored 46 goals and made 45 assists. I don't expect Real Madrid to ruin his performance by making him play as a striker any time. As a result, I still expect Mbappe to be transferred later on.

Vinicius is only 21 years old. He is still young and not experienced enough. Maybe he doesn't perform well in the winger position. But it is wrong to say that he will not be able to become a worthy striker in the future. If he is hardworking and if Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti cooperates with Vinicius properly, then Vinicius may become a worthy striker.

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July 11, 2022, 06:23:19 PM
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He had already said that he agreed so that meant there was no deception there especially in this case it was obvious the decision was made by him.
But indeed I don't really understand why he agrees with this especially there are several clubs who want his services and even from a financial point of view it is clear that other clubs have better fans than Barcelona but I am quite surprised why he is back with Barcelona and is willing to take a pay cut.

Several big European clubs were interested in Dembele, but finally Dembele was willing to accept a new contract offer from Barcelona,
Dembele's salary will be cut by 40%. I think why Dembele did that, because other clubs also offered contracts that did not differ much
from what Barcelona offered, that's why Dembele is willing to accept the contract offer given by Barcelona. Moreover, with Dembele's
track record which is often injured, other clubs will also not dare to offer a large salary to Dembele. But I think Dembele's decision was
right by extending his contract with Barcelona, because since Xavi became Barcelona's main coach, Dembele could find his best game.
In addition, Dembele is one of Xavi's favorite players, so the possibility of Dembele playing as a starter is very large. But if Dembele moves
to another club, it's possible that Dembele won't be playing regularly.
I actually don't really know about the contracts offered by other clubs to him but indeed if what you say is true then actually it would still be better if he left the Camp Nou especially with their current condition.
On the other hand, he also seems to be aware that his performance over the past few seasons has not been very good, which has made him receive a cut in his salary because even if he leaves, the price will certainly drop considerably.

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July 11, 2022, 06:29:52 PM
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Vinicius is only 21 years old. He is still young and not experienced enough. Maybe he doesn't perform well in the winger position. But it is wrong to say that he will not be able to become a worthy striker in the future. If he is hardworking and if Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti cooperates with Vinicius properly, then Vinicius may become a worthy striker.
Vinicius' main position is winger but it is still possible to switch to a centre-forward if he has the talent for it. Changing the position of players who have played well in one position will not be as easy as turning the palm of the hand and I think players will also find it difficult if they don't play in their best position. So far Vini is playing well on the wing, he's enjoying it and it's effective for Real Madrid. The coach doesn't need to put him in a new position while there are still the right players to be there.

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July 11, 2022, 07:16:09 PM
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Vinicius is only 21 years old. He is still young and not experienced enough. Maybe he doesn't perform well in the winger position. But it is wrong to say that he will not be able to become a worthy striker in the future. If he is hardworking and if Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti cooperates with Vinicius properly, then Vinicius may become a worthy striker.
Vinicius' main position is winger but it is still possible to switch to a centre-forward if he has the talent for it. Changing the position of players who have played well in one position will not be as easy as turning the palm of the hand and I think players will also find it difficult if they don't play in their best position. So far Vini is playing well on the wing, he's enjoying it and it's effective for Real Madrid. The coach doesn't need to put him in a new position while there are still the right players to be there.

I agree^^. He is good at wing and there is no need to just put him into striking. Its not like Madrid needs a striker urgently so there is no need to start experimenting with Vinicius now. Also Madrid does needs a good winger. There is't a proper effective winger after Vinicius. Hazard can play but he is out of form so right now Vinicius position is fixed.
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I agree^^. He is good at wing and there is no need to just put him into striking. Its not like Madrid needs a striker urgently so there is no need to start experimenting with Vinicius now. Also Madrid does needs a good winger. There is't a proper effective winger after Vinicius. Hazard can play but he is out of form so right now Vinicius position is fixed.
Interestingly for Vini he can also be placed in attacking midfielder or second striker if Madrid really wants to rely on Benzema up front.
As for the Wings, actually there's not only Vini but Asensio is still there and can take advantage of Valverde too, which is indeed sometimes he is in that position when he is needed considering he also played very well there.
With the addition of Tchouameni in midfield it is clear it will make Vini's burden to be in the middle of the field a little distracted and continue to focus on the flanks to help attack.

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July 11, 2022, 07:59:11 PM
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Sevilla made additions to the defence. They bought Marcao from Galatasaray and paid 15 million Euro. They will also give 10% profit from the next sale. He is thought to be good on defense but has no goal contribution. I'm not sure he is the player Sevilla is looking for. I guess we'll see in time.
I read that Barcelona will pay 72 million Euro for Raphinha. Do they really have that much money to spend on this player? I'm not sure how they go about the budget. They may experience the same financial difficulties again next year.

I haven’t heard of Sevilla making big transfers. They did bring in a defender but they really need attacking players who are really adept at scoring goals. I don’t think they will be able to achieve any decent results in the next season. And about Barcelona, I don’t think it is about having that amount of money anymore. It is more like how much debt they will be accumulating if they spend that amount of money. They already owe a lot of money and the transfers which they are trying to make are not going to make things any better as well. They should really stay under the radar for a while.

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July 11, 2022, 08:04:10 PM
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I think there is likely to be a repeat of what happened a few months back. They had to get rid of Lionel Messi, he was the best player in Barcelona, not to mention the finest player in the world. And the way Barcelona is trying to handle the money situation I think reducing the salary of players is not going to work. Barcelona will have to let some players go again. I obviously hope that it doesn’t happen. However, the way Barcelona is trying to make so many costly transfers I don’t think there will be any other options if they continue spending their money like that.
In my opinion, Barcelona have done various ways to maintain their finances and one of them is a reduction in player salaries. but on the one hand, reducing player salaries is not a good thing because it can have a negative impact on player contributions. Barcelona also want to let go of some of their star players in the transfer market this summer like De Jong, but the star wants to stay and is willing to take a pay cut for next season. In fact, if he really wanted to leave, Barcelona would definitely get a lot of money from the sale of De Jong.
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July 11, 2022, 08:18:37 PM
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As a result, I still expect Mbappe to be transferred later on.

as a real madrid fan i would not be happy with real madrid going back to chasing Mbappe. From what I could see Mbappe thinks he's very important and he started to dictate the rules at PSG and I'm glad he didn't go to real madrid because real madrid would bow to him. that would be humiliating for us, as we've had many players who are legendary players. Real Madrid don't need Mbappe. they have to look for other players except Mbappe

In my opinion, Barcelona have done various ways to maintain their finances and one of them is a reduction in player salaries.

Barcelona sank because of the paranoia that they need to have young players, this led to their disgrace and it seems to me that they still haven't changed their way of thinking

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Sevilla made additions to the defence. They bought Marcao from Galatasaray and paid 15 million Euro. They will also give 10% profit from the next sale. He is thought to be good on defense but has no goal contribution. I'm not sure he is the player Sevilla is looking for. I guess we'll see in time.
I haven’t heard of Sevilla making big transfers. They did bring in a defender but they really need attacking players who are really adept at scoring goals. I don’t think they will be able to achieve any decent results in the next season.
Sevilla didn't make any interesting signing imo. They got Marcao after letting Diego Carlos move to Aston Villa. They might bring another center back if Kounde leaves to Chelsea or City.
For Martial, he failed to adapt in Sevilla and returned back to ManU. So far Sevilla doesn't look better than the previous season, unless some players perform better, it will be a hard season for them.

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Real Madrid  have been outstanding for quite some years now, retaining dominance in the Champions league, all thanks to the quality players in the squad. With some of these players  like Modric, Casemiro, Kroos and Bale and Marcelo leaving, new young players have to come in as replacements for these players. So far they already got replacement for their outstanding midfield trio who were the engine room of the team. The future looks secured already for them with the likes of Camavinga, Valverde, Tchouameni, Rodrygo and Vinicius.

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Vinicius' main position is winger but it is still possible to switch to a centre-forward if he has the talent for it. Changing the position of players who have played well in one position will not be as easy as turning the palm of the hand and I think players will also find it difficult if they don't play in their best position. So far Vini is playing well on the wing, he's enjoying it and it's effective for Real Madrid. The coach doesn't need to put him in a new position while there are still the right players to be there.
I think Vinicius will be difficult to play as a center-forward although he can learn it. His play style is a pure winger, he is very talented in dribbling and has a fast speed. But his physical is not really strong if he must fight with the opponents' strong defenders. Ancelotti must know that it will be a bad idea to put Vinicius as a center-forward. So, if Real Madrid really wants to get a replacement for Benzema, they must look for a new CF. Trying to replace Benzema with Vinicius probably brings a negative impact to Real Madrid performance as it won't be effective.  Wink


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July 11, 2022, 09:31:16 PM
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Vinícius Júnior claimed has been signs new contract until 2027 although this news hasn't published yet but transfer guru Fabrizio Romano believe the agreement is already deal and he deserved for this contract because since arrived in 2018 last season is the best achievement for him that in all competitions he scoring 22 goals and score important goal for Madrid while against Liverpool on champion league final and besides him Rodrygo Goes also will get new contract
I think that there is no way Real Madrid are selling Vinicius Junior to any team for a very long time also. He has proven his quality at a really early age especially thanks to Benzema. They have made a great duo and this helped Vinicius to shine already. His contribution last season was so valuable for Real Madrid that I understand the reason why they wanted to extend his contract already. He is the future of Real Madrid for sure. I just wish Mbappe also comes to the team next season.

Vinicius Junior is going to stay for sure. Real Madrid is not letting him go unless he is willing to leave the club himself which I don’t think is going to happen. He is a great player with some really good potential and on the other hand, Real Madrid also did not get the players that they wanted for that upcoming season. (neither Haaland nor Mbappe). So, there is no way Real Madrid is going to lose this absolutely great left-winger. This kid has real potential to be someone great in the future. And we all know that football is everything about pace right now and this kid has a lot of it.

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I haven’t heard of Sevilla making big transfers. They did bring in a defender but they really need attacking players who are really adept at scoring goals. I don’t think they will be able to achieve any decent results in the next season.
Sevilla didn't make any interesting signing imo. They got Marcao after letting Diego Carlos move to Aston Villa. They might bring another center back if Kounde leaves to Chelsea or City.
For Martial, he failed to adapt in Sevilla and returned back to ManU. So far Sevilla doesn't look better than the previous season, unless some players perform better, it will be a hard season for them.
sevilla is not discussed much so the latest news about sevilla does not appear quickly. I heard that sevilla loaned out their defender (Augustinsson) to aston villa. I think it's a bad decision because Sevilla will be very bad in defense. I think next season sevilla will play badly compared to last season.

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Yes, everyone expects that the El Clasico match is more lively, than the previous season. Where both teams can give each other a serious threat. I didn't see that in some of their meetings in previous seasons. But this season there is hope, something lost will come back again. Actually we just have to wait for Barcelona, because Real Madrid are ready for that.
There is no doubt El Classico is cream of all La Liga season, and we already have last season Real Madrid was on top of their form but in crucial match of El Classico they were completely outclass by Barcelona which is going to be very interested in coming season because now both teams are doing their best for strengthening their squads specially after having disasters last season with on and off the field Barcelona is giving good money for bringing quality players even right now they are facing deep financial crises.
Right now, few more players under Barcelona pipeline which are going to be amazing if they are able to sign them before end of transfer window.

To be honest, after Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi left, El Clásico lost a lot of its attraction. Not only El Clasico, but La Liga, in general, has also lost a lot of popularity. And right now almost everyone is a fan of the English Premier League and there are a lot of reasons behind that. The English Premier League right now is the most competitive league in the world and honestly, La Liga does not even come close to the English Premier League when we talk about the competition. If a few popular players start coming to La Liga probability sleep will also be popular again but that is a long way away because I don’t think Barcelona is going to make big changes because of their economy.

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Vinicius junior is the next Ballon d'or player that will come from Brazil. I have watched him for sometime now, he was part to Benzema's goal contribution as they had good pairing and understanding. He has signed an extension to say he has come to stay and will fight to win the Ballon d'or at Real Madrid. Good one Mbappe bluffs off the move it has paved way for Vinicius junior to sign. El Classico will be superb one again soon.

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July 11, 2022, 10:28:41 PM
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Vinicius junior is the next Ballon d'or player that will come from Brazil. I have watched him for sometime now, he was part to Benzema's goal contribution as they had good pairing and understanding. He has signed an extension to say he has come to stay and will fight to win the Ballon d'or at Real Madrid. Good one Mbappe bluffs off the move it has paved way for Vinicius junior to sign. El Classico will be superb one again soon.
Im not sure vinicius has that abioity to win balon d'or.

I mean this individual award accumulate players performance along with goals - assists plus how much trophy he get , so far vinicius helped by real madrid who win title every season but not with the consistent performance + individual achievements , he hasnt reached that level yet for now

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July 11, 2022, 11:00:48 PM
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Vinicius junior is the next Ballon d'or player that will come from Brazil. I have watched him for sometime now, he was part to Benzema's goal contribution as they had good pairing and understanding. He has signed an extension to say he has come to stay and will fight to win the Ballon d'or at Real Madrid. Good one Mbappe bluffs off the move it has paved way for Vinicius junior to sign. El Classico will be superb one again soon.
Vinicius is good player,  he is Benzema favourite in real madrid,  they help each other in achieving goals. This two men were the reason Real Madrid won trophies in the last seasons , i still hope with them the next season will still be great for Real Madrid.

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