La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[abhiseshakana]

Real Madrid was really generous to increase the offer from €180m to €200m since the last negotiation, and even after that PSG didn't accept the offer. It makes me believe PSG didn't want to sell Mbappe since the beginning. PSG wants him to play at least one season partnering with Messi and Neymar, composing a top tier 1 unbeatable trio.
Is this approach more profitable for PSG than the offer made by Real Madrid, or is the symbolic meaning of this trio for the history of soccer and PSG itself more important than financial profits for the club?

It seems so. If PSG were willing to sell Kylian Mbappe, they would definitely accept the last offer. It looks like they are intending to make him play for them at least for one more season. They want to watch the Messi - Mbappe - Neymar trio in this season. They didn't even care about a gigantic offer like that. They are a rich club and I guess they thought that they would make up for it.

That's what makes it feel weird. It's as if PSG feels confident that Mbappe will change his decision and is willing to do a contract extension and PSG seemingly not too bothered if they have to lose a great player as Mbappe for free.

If it turns out that Mbappe sticks to his decision (don't want to extend his contract) and he decided to pre-contract with Real Madrid (or another club) in the winter transfer windows (January 2022), then there is a possibility that he will not be able to play a full season at PSG because it could be that PSG will put Mbappe on the bench until his contract expires.

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[SquirrelJulietGarden]

That's what makes it feel weird. It's as if PSG feels confident that Mbappe will change his decision and is willing to do a contract extension and PSG seemingly not too bothered if they have to lose a great player as Mbappe for free.

PSG are gambling with Mbappe and their decision. They gamble to win Champions League and accept the worst situation when they lose him from a free transfer. I think they believe that can renew a contract with him but they accept to lose him if they win the Champions League.

If it turns out that Mbappe sticks to his decision (don't want to extend his contract) and he decided to pre-contract with Real Madrid (or another club) in the winter transfer windows (January 2022), then there is a possibility that he will not be able to play a full season at PSG because it could be that PSG will put Mbappe on the bench until his contract expires.

It would be a big loss for them but if they win Champions League, it is acceptable cost. $200M is acceptable cost for Champions League because they even spent more than that number since the season they took over PSG. Many season and huge budget was spent but no Champions League so far. They only have one failed Champions League final match.

[kassex]

So Barcelona have revealed the new owner of the number 10 and its Ansi Fati.
logically, theoretically and practically is the greatest talent that Barca has bet on in the past years, and therefore he is more entitled to wear this historical number because of the terrible pressure and burden that accompanies its bearer.
The important thing is not to compare his numbers with Messi’s numbers so that he does not collapse quickly As usual all the comparisons that kill its new owner we seen it happen before in Man United After Ronaldo left.

Ansu Fati is really one of the best players who has grown at Barcelona now. He is only 18 years old but he has already increased his value a lot in only one year. His market value is now €60m. And I'm pretty sure that Barcelona will choose to keep him at the team like they did with Messi. In the last season, he got 5 goals and 4 assists and he played for only 10 matches. I think that he has a really bright future ahead.

Back then there was a fantastic player like Messi who was defining the whole game of Barcelona. Now Fati will not have that support. And by giving him number 10, Barcelona made him the leader of the team, but it can be difficult for such a young player. Hopefully he can handle it. And will become the new Messi for Barcelona in the future.

[Iranus]

If Messi wear something like 45 or 63 that could be possible but let's be honest, no matter how good a player is, even if the greatest of all time, you can't retire number 10. I don't think that's even an internal discussion. You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.

Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.

[hahay]

If Messi wear something like 45 or 63 that could be possible but let's be honest, no matter how good a player is, even if the greatest of all time, you can't retire number 10. I don't think that's even an internal discussion. You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.

Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.

I just feel that the numbers are not something that is important to pay attention to, because whatever number they wear it will still have no effect on their bad or good game. But when it comes to honoring the legends of the past then I think it's only natural that they pay so much attention to it, but that doesn't mean they will easily give out the number. Because at least the players have to take more time like having to play in a few seasons first, this is only to prove whether the related player game is worthy or not to wear the legend number on the team itself.

[Avirunes]

You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.

Yeah that's a good idea as well. Retiring a number seems a bit much but hey you can always come down to like making a statue like City recently did by putting statues of Vincent Kompany and David Silva in front of their stadium. There are many ways in which a club acknowledges such player's contribution but then it is upto club whether they want to or not or in which way they want in done.

[masulum]

I believe Griezmann can return to his best form with Atletico Madrid even though he is on loan from Barcelona for 1 year. Griezmann was not included in the coach's scheme this season so he had to go on loan. This will provide many advantage for other Barcelona strikers including Memphis Depay.

Yep, I believe the factor of these two people has the potential to be able to return Griezmann to his best form. Maybe, we can see this possibility in a few games when he become starting XI for Atletico, before that happens, he will probably only be considered as a super sub who performs well as a substitute.

[LittleBitFunny]

I believe Griezmann can return to his best form with Atletico Madrid even though he is on loan from Barcelona for 1 year. Griezmann was not included in the coach's scheme this season so he had to go on loan. This will provide many advantage for other Barcelona strikers including Memphis Depay.

Yep, I believe the factor of these two people has the potential to be able to return Griezmann to his best form. Maybe, we can see this possibility in a few games when he become starting XI for Atletico, before that happens, he will probably only be considered as a super sub who performs well as a substitute.

Griezmann used to have great performances with Atletico Madrid. But after coming to Barcelona, he could not adapt well to the Barcelona team. Yet he did not perform poorly in Barcelona. The Atletico Madrid team is very stable. If Griezmann and Suarez can perform together all season, they will be able to win the title this season as well.

[Iranus]

If Messi wear something like 45 or 63 that could be possible but let's be honest, no matter how good a player is, even if the greatest of all time, you can't retire number 10. I don't think that's even an internal discussion. You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.

Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.

I just feel that the numbers are not something that is important to pay attention to, because whatever number they wear it will still have no effect on their bad or good game. But when it comes to honoring the legends of the past then I think it's only natural that they pay so much attention to it, but that doesn't mean they will easily give out the number. Because at least the players have to take more time like having to play in a few seasons first, this is only to prove whether the related player game is worthy or not to wear the legend number on the team itself.

Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.

[jakdanyel]

Real Madrid was really generous to increase the offer from €180m to €200m since the last negotiation, and even after that PSG didn't accept the offer. It makes me believe PSG didn't want to sell Mbappe since the beginning. PSG wants him to play at least one season partnering with Messi and Neymar, composing a top tier 1 unbeatable trio.
Is this approach more profitable for PSG than the offer made by Real Madrid, or is the symbolic meaning of this trio for the history of soccer and PSG itself more important than financial profits for the club?

It seems so. If PSG were willing to sell Kylian Mbappe, they would definitely accept the last offer. It looks like they are intending to make him play for them at least for one more season. They want to watch the Messi - Mbappe - Neymar trio in this season. They didn't even care about a gigantic offer like that. They are a rich club and I guess they thought that they would make up for it.

That's what makes it feel weird. It's as if PSG feels confident that Mbappe will change his decision and is willing to do a contract extension and PSG seemingly not too bothered if they have to lose a great player as Mbappe for free.

If it turns out that Mbappe sticks to his decision (don't want to extend his contract) and he decided to pre-contract with Real Madrid (or another club) in the winter transfer windows (January 2022), then there is a possibility that he will not be able to play a full season at PSG because it could be that PSG will put Mbappe on the bench until his contract expires.

I don't think that PSG would run the risk of putting Kylian Mbappe on the bench. He is one of the most important players for them. He has had an enormous role on their successes so far. And they are already aware that Mbappe will leave the team one way or another. I assume that they will respect his choice when he signs a contract with Real Madrid in January. He should be able to play in the starting eleven at PSG till the end of the season. If they decide to do the opposite, then their job will be harder in the Champions League especially..

[CryptoBuds]

Real Madrid was really generous to increase the offer from €180m to €200m since the last negotiation, and even after that PSG didn't accept the offer. It makes me believe PSG didn't want to sell Mbappe since the beginning. PSG wants him to play at least one season partnering with Messi and Neymar, composing a top tier 1 unbeatable trio.
Is this approach more profitable for PSG than the offer made by Real Madrid, or is the symbolic meaning of this trio for the history of soccer and PSG itself more important than financial profits for the club?

It seems so. If PSG were willing to sell Kylian Mbappe, they would definitely accept the last offer. It looks like they are intending to make him play for them at least for one more season. They want to watch the Messi - Mbappe - Neymar trio in this season. They didn't even care about a gigantic offer like that. They are a rich club and I guess they thought that they would make up for it.

That's what makes it feel weird. It's as if PSG feels confident that Mbappe will change his decision and is willing to do a contract extension and PSG seemingly not too bothered if they have to lose a great player as Mbappe for free.
If it turns out that Mbappe sticks to his decision (don't want to extend his contract) and he decided to pre-contract with Real Madrid (or another club) in the winter transfer windows (January 2022), then there is a possibility that he will not be able to play a full season at PSG because it could be that PSG will put Mbappe on the bench until his contract expires.

I don't think that PSG would run the risk of putting Kylian Mbappe on the bench. He is one of the most important players for them. He has had an enormous role on their successes so far. And they are already aware that Mbappe will leave the team one way or another. I assume that they will respect his choice when he signs a contract with Real Madrid in January. He should be able to play in the starting eleven at PSG till the end of the season. If they decide to do the opposite, then their job will be harder in the Champions League especially..

I agree with you. Mbappe is a key player in the PSG team. The main scorer. Neymar was injured in most of the previous season. Mbappe was PSG's only hope then. He is a goal machine. He has been able to adapt very well to the other players of the PSG team. PSG will not put such a player on the bench.

[baeva]

Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.

I'm sorry, what other strange things do they do? Messi's departure from Barcelona was not because of management, but because of league rules. Fati is quite a talented player, he would have opened up even better if he hadn't been injured in '20. That's why I think he can play well and rightfully got number 10

[xzone]

I'm sorry, what other strange things do they do? Messi's departure from Barcelona was not because of management, but because of league rules. Fati is quite a talented player, he would have opened up even better if he hadn't been injured in '20. That's why I think he can play well and rightfully got number 10

You are right about Messi leaving the team, most people would not want such a transfer but I think the number 10 jersey is also important. Not every player can wear this jersey, I think it's too early to give the number 10 jersey to this player.
Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends

[slaman29]

Back then there was a fantastic player like Messi who was defining the whole game of Barcelona. Now Fati will not have that support. And by giving him number 10, Barcelona made him the leader of the team, but it can be difficult for such a young player. Hopefully he can handle it. And will become the new Messi for Barcelona in the future.

I have already said before he is my favorite young player, I just wish he got more time and of course that bad injury almost one year ago took his youth out, and that's bad for anyone but especially at the formation of his skills and experience, it was very unfortunate for him.

But I hope this No.10 award is the beginning of everything for him. And I hope he knows he doesn't have to be another Messi, just be Ansu Fati. We need to go behind him and make him know he does not have to be god:)

[MusaMohamed]

You are right about Messi leaving the team, most people would not want such a transfer but I think the number 10 jersey is also important. Not every player can wear this jersey, I think it's too early to give the number 10 jersey to this player.
Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends

Why did Barcelona let Messi go too easily?

The transfer of Griezman can be done earlier to cut their salary budget and it would be enough to sign a new contract with Messi. After Messi left, they had reasons to get sympathy from Pique to cut his salary.

All things are in a plan, perhaps? They did have plan to force Messi and Griezman out of the club. And I feel that they did not want to keep Messi while they can solve this situation better.

[Iranus]

Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.

I'm sorry, what other strange things do they do? Messi's departure from Barcelona was not because of management, but because of league rules. Fati is quite a talented player, he would have opened up even better if he hadn't been injured in '20. That's why I think he can play well and rightfully got number 10

Messi's departure from Barcelona is indirectly due to management. At least I believe so. Didn't the Management of Barcelona know about such rules of the league? If they wanted to, they could find a way to keep Messi in the team. But they did not want to keep Messi in the team. However, it would be great for Barcelona if Ansu Fati could take Messi's place.

[rahmad2nd]

Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.

I'm sorry, what other strange things do they do? Messi's departure from Barcelona was not because of management, but because of league rules. Fati is quite a talented player, he would have opened up even better if he hadn't been injured in '20. That's why I think he can play well and rightfully got number 10

Messi's departure from Barcelona is indirectly due to management. At least I believe so. Didn't the Management of Barcelona know about such rules of the league? If they wanted to, they could find a way to keep Messi in the team. But they did not want to keep Messi in the team. However, it would be great for Barcelona if Ansu Fati could take Messi's place.

Messi have bigger salary and push limit of La Liga salary rule and make his have to left Barcelona and play for PSG, now they have loan Grizmann too maybe to make an efficient how Barcelona financial. After left by Josep Maria Bartomeu Barcelona have much debt to pay for other club with buying player and they faced with many player got fantastic salary value, now they have sell many player and deduct Pique, Alba and Bosquest salary to allow with Aguero can register for Barcelona in La liga.

[ShowOff]

Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.

At least Ansu Fati can help Barcelona win with a slick game. Messi was not born to be a great player since he came to Barcelona, ​​and he has gone through a long process of building a brilliant career with the help of many players and their coach. Ansu Fati is the same, he is very young and has good talent as a Barcelona player. Fati has to go through a growth process like some of his predecessor legends like Xavi, Iniesta, and Messi. I'm sure he will develop well under the direction of a coach who cares about La masia's players.

[Spack17]

If Messi wear something like 45 or 63 that could be possible but let's be honest, no matter how good a player is, even if the greatest of all time, you can't retire number 10. I don't think that's even an internal discussion. You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.

Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.

It is still early to talk about a player whose age is only 18 now. But one thing is certain that we may not see a player like Messi at Barcelona or another club for a very long time. Messi is really something different. He is not from our world.    He is a legend already. Maybe in 20 years or so, we can have another player like him I think.

[sana54210]

That's what makes it feel weird. It's as if PSG feels confident that Mbappe will change his decision and is willing to do a contract extension and PSG seemingly not too bothered if they have to lose a great player as Mbappe for free.

PSG are gambling with Mbappe and their decision. They gamble to win Champions League and accept the worst situation when they lose him from a free transfer. I think they believe that can renew a contract with him but they accept to lose him if they win the Champions League.

The weird part is the benching him part. I mean sure he could sign a pre-contract deal with Real Madrid when he is still with PSG but why bench him? If you are PSG and you are on route to winning UCL and if mbappe is still trying his best to win that UCL before he leaves and gives great performance, then why would you bench him? He could be the best player on that team, could be Neymar or whatever but he is up there for sure and you are telling me that just because he will leave, you will bench him?

I think PSG will not bench him and they are fine with losing Mbappe as a whole next season just to win that UCL, because mbappe for one more season nearly guarantees them the cup whereas without him it guarantees they will not be able to win. I have seen teams who are much worse to win UCL, hell even Chelsea last year was a lot worse than PSG this year, so it is quite possible for them to get it if they play team ball.