La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[ingiltere]

Barcelona will get relieved a little tho since they are struggling to sign newly signed players.. Loaning or selling players is a must. Umtiti for example doesn't want to leave Barca but he is threatened to not play if he doesn't accept a loan offer from French (Nice, Monaco) or Turkish (Besiktas) clubs. Braithwaite also refused to leave after a deal was reached. Koeman is in an awkward situation right now.

I don't know about Pjanic but Umtiti can't join Beşiktaş with that wage bill. That was a rumor a few weeks ago but now Beşiktaş focus on Diego Godin for stopper position. Even if they want Umtiti they can't pay his wage, only a part of it maybe 2 million Euro which is not okay for Barcelona because they try to reduce their wage bill. Braithwaite is also earning good at Barca, I don't think any other team would pay him same amount of money. Things are though for Barca, from now on they should think twice before giving stupid amount of wages to players.

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[Lordhermes]

Messi leaving Barcelona will really affect the team.When a tram is built on a particular player,It makes the whole team loose confidence when playing without that player.Now that  Messi is no longer at Barca,let's see if the other players that are at Barca prove to the world that they can still do well without Messi.

[Luzin]

Messi leaving Barcelona will really affect the team.When a tram is built on a particular player,It makes the whole team loose confidence when playing without that player.Now that  Messi is no longer at Barca,let's see if the other players that are at Barca prove to the world that they can still do well without Messi.

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Koeman and Barcelona prepared for the No-Messi future in the last 2 seasons and with the shines from Ansu Fati and Pedrid, they have more confidence to keep this plan.

The friendly match against Juventus is great enough for them to head towards a future without Messi.

On the other hands, Lionel Messi posters are already being TORN DOWN from the outside of the Nou Camp. I am not a fan of Barcelona and I don't hate them but it is shameful from what Barcelona did recent years to Messi and other legendary players in Camp Nou.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.

Indeed, Barcelona had the worldwide fan for Messi. His departure was unexpected. Currently Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar are the most popular soccer players. None of them are in any La Liga club now. As a result La Liga will loss it's worldwide fame gradually. El Clasico won't be exciting like it was in the past. However, we might see a competitive and exciting La Liga season like before. But Barcelona won't be consider as most favourite team of upcoming season.

You're right, with the current situation every team has an equal chance competition becomes more competitive
Watching every match might be a little boring like you said there are no special matches like El Clasico, La Liga's appeal will slowly fade at least this season

For those who want to earn money, I recommend going to the Stock Market and buying a few shares for PSG, when Real Madrid let CR7 go when he arrived at Juventus, Juve shares grew a lot there were many winners, now with him PSG I'm sure the same story will happen. It is unfortunate that the Spanish League has lost the two best in the world, I think that now many fans will begin to follow the French and Italian leagues much more, the players who are in those leagues are very good and more surprises may arise in terms of stars it means.

[hahay]

Messi leaving Barcelona will really affect the team.When a tram is built on a particular player,It makes the whole team loose confidence when playing without that player.Now that  Messi is no longer at Barca,let's see if the other players that are at Barca prove to the world that they can still do well without Messi.

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Yes, even though it was only a friendly match but it looks like both teams played quite seriously too and yes, the big win can also be a motivation for the team in the first match later. Basically a team must be able to play with high cohesiveness although indeed, sometimes in a team there is at least one influential player in the match but this cannot be relied on forever. With the departure of Messi, I still hope that Barcelona can perform well, because if I look at some of the history when Messi is unable to play due to injury, at least it is enough to make Barcelona unable to perform consistently. Now it's a different situation because Messi has really left, and the team has to move on and fight together while keeping the team together is something that is important.

[hd49728]

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Barcelona in the last couple of years, gave hope to their fans this way. They are more similar as Arsenal but at higher levels. They are strong most of times in a season but in important matches, they lost and all other good results in are non sense generally.

Yes, even though it was only a friendly match but it looks like both teams played quite seriously too and yes, the big win can also be a motivation for the team in the first match later. Basically a team must be able to play with high cohesiveness although indeed, sometimes in a team there is at least one influential player in the match but this cannot be relied on forever.

Clubs are in ending of their pre-season trainings so such friendly match are last chances for them to correct their players and tactics for the coming season. It is understandable to see they played the friendly match very seriously. Barcelona did it better than Juventus and brought a little hope to fans.

With the departure of Messi, I still hope that Barcelona can perform well, because if I look at some of the history when Messi is unable to play due to injury, at least it is enough to make Barcelona unable to perform consistently. Now it's a different situation because Messi has really left, and the team has to move on and fight together while keeping the team together is something that is important.

You are right. In the past season, when Barcelona have to play without Messi, their results are not too bad. With Messi, they can not win La Liga and are struggling to end in top 4. Without Messi, I believe they will be able to get a position in top 4. It means the difference is not dramatic.

[Iranus]

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Barcelona in the last couple of years, gave hope to their fans this way. They are more similar as Arsenal but at higher levels. They are strong most of times in a season but in important matches, they lost and all other good results in are non sense generally.

You are right. Last season they had enough hope to win the title. But they could not maintain the continuity of the performance towards the end of the season. They have lost some important matches. Even with weaker opponents they have shared points and lost some matches. As a result, they fell off the road to winning the title.

[skarais]

You are right. In the past season, when Barcelona have to play without Messi, their results are not too bad. With Messi, they can not win La Liga and are struggling to end in top 4. Without Messi, I believe they will be able to get a position in top 4. It means the difference is not dramatic.

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.

[Luzin]

Three days from the start of La Liga, Valencia vs Getafe will be the opening La Liga match. In this match I favor Valencia in this match. Valencia will play at home and at least last year Valencia ranked better than Getafe. Valencia in 13th position and Getafe in 15th position in the final standings.

At least I'm still waiting for the classic match Madrid vs Barca. Unfortunately it will still be a long wait because it will take place at the end of October.

[Altryist]

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.

Messi is a talented player, real team leader. He is more than just a good striker who scores goals all the time. I watched his conference and he was really depressed that he needed to leave the club. It doesn't matter if Barcelona is worse, or better without Messi, this man is a legend and he has done a lot for the club over the years.

[MAAManda]

Three days from the start of La Liga, Valencia vs Getafe will be the opening La Liga match. In this match I favor Valencia in this match. Valencia will play at home and at least last year Valencia ranked better than Getafe. Valencia in 13th position and Getafe in 15th position in the final standings.

I have a feeling that Getafe will win their match against Valencia at the Mestalla, in a friendly match, Getafe have never even lost once. While Valencia they are also pretty good in their friendly matches, but they have lost 2 times, the first to Real Zaragoza and the second to Brentford.

More or less, this will affect the psychology of the team's victory

At least I'm still waiting for the classic match Madrid vs Barca. Unfortunately it will still be a long wait because it will take place at the end of October.

After the departure of Messi and Ronaldo, La Liga has lost their icon, maybe El Clasico this time will be very boring.

[ropyu1978]

Three days from the start of La Liga, Valencia vs Getafe will be the opening La Liga match. In this match I favor Valencia in this match. Valencia will play at home and at least last year Valencia ranked better than Getafe. Valencia in 13th position and Getafe in 15th position in the final standings.

At least I'm still waiting for the classic match Madrid vs Barca. Unfortunately it will still be a long wait because it will take place at the end of October.

you're not the only one who sided with valencia, i think all those who watched must have no one who sided with getave, because we saw from the two meetings they were mostly won by valencia, it is certain that the prediction between valencia and getave was won by valencia, maybe valencia will win by a score 2-0, we can't wait for the league to start.

[masulum]

On the other hands, Lionel Messi posters are already being TORN DOWN from the outside of the Nou Camp. I am not a fan of Barcelona and I don't hate them but it is shameful from what Barcelona did recent years to Messi and other legendary players in Camp Nou.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/10/11/46501929-0-image-a-94_1628591565082.jpg

It is very regrettable for this action, because in my opinion Messi's move on a Free Transfer is not the fault of Barcelona or Messi. According to the news I read in the media, Messi and Barcelona have already reached an agreement for a contract extension. However, neither could be achieved due to La Liga regulatory issues. Turning down the image of Messi, like making messi as a player who has betrayed Barca, if the news about the regulation issue is true, then barca fans prove that they have no respect for the club or for messi who had to leave Barca because he want to save their clubs.

[clint25n]

On the other hands, Lionel Messi posters are already being TORN DOWN from the outside of the Nou Camp. I am not a fan of Barcelona and I don't hate them but it is shameful from what Barcelona did recent years to Messi and other legendary players in Camp Nou.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/10/11/46501929-0-image-a-94_1628591565082.jpg

It is very regrettable for this action, because in my opinion Messi's move on a Free Transfer is not the fault of Barcelona or Messi. According to the news I read in the media, Messi and Barcelona have already reached an agreement for a contract extension. However, neither could be achieved due to La Liga regulatory issues. Turning down the image of Messi, like making messi as a player who has betrayed Barca, if the news about the regulation issue is true, then barca fans prove that they have no respect for the club or for messi who had to leave Barca because he want to save their clubs.

Lionel Messi's departure from Barcelona this season is a disappointment as well as a loss for the Spanish football federation.Messi's toy is a football icon that makes many people interested in watching the La Liga competition, maybe we don't know who is to blame in this condition, Moreover, the regulations applied by BBVA are very detrimental to the Catalan club, especially since many fans are disappointed with the policies implemented for the departure of Lionel Messi in La Liga this season.

[rmhuntley]

Keep choose and favorite Barca to win from Bilbao although without Messi right now, I think Depay become most scoring goal for Barcelona and help by Griezmann most easy for Barcelona to win from Bilbao. Barcelona have completed team now after Messi left club and only with midfielder they need new and young player, I see Bosquest is not strong again for Barcelona.

[Furious 7]

On the other hands, Lionel Messi posters are already being TORN DOWN from the outside of the Nou Camp. I am not a fan of Barcelona and I don't hate them but it is shameful from what Barcelona did recent years to Messi and other legendary players in Camp Nou.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/10/11/46501929-0-image-a-94_1628591565082.jpg

It is very regrettable for this action, because in my opinion Messi's move on a Free Transfer is not the fault of Barcelona or Messi. According to the news I read in the media, Messi and Barcelona have already reached an agreement for a contract extension. However, neither could be achieved due to La Liga regulatory issues. Turning down the image of Messi, like making messi as a player who has betrayed Barca, if the news about the regulation issue is true, then barca fans prove that they have no respect for the club or for messi who had to leave Barca because he want to save their clubs.

That's why some netizens always sneer at messi even though they both have agreed to extend it but what can all the rules and regulations have to be fulfilled so that this can't be maintained and messi becomes a free transfer.

I think so because this is indeed too fanatical, so many people are cornering that messi betrayed Barcelona just wanting to go to PSG even though that's not the reason, and that sometimes a fan who is already attached to his love if a favorite player has to move just because of LaLiga regulations .

[lixer]

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.

I guess the last years of Messi was just a merchandise situation. Think about it, dude was getting 70 million at the peak level, 70 million! You could spend 200 million and get 2 amazing players which will be just 3 years worth of salary for Messi, and I mean like Haaland+Kane together for just 3-4 years of Messi salary, and you can pay them combined 30 million as well.

This team has managed to actually save themselves sooooo much money that eventually they will be doing insanely better, unbelievably better, everyone will be shocked how awesome Barcelona will be in the next decade, they will have the chance to dominate European football again with all the money they will save from this deal. Messi is great and all, but I think he was the only reason the team was doing horrible, sure financial management wasn't good neither but Messi was the main cause of that.

[Trofo]

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.

I guess the last years of Messi was just a merchandise situation. Think about it, dude was getting 70 million at the peak level, 70 million! You could spend 200 million and get 2 amazing players which will be just 3 years worth of salary for Messi, and I mean like Haaland+Kane together for just 3-4 years of Messi salary, and you can pay them combined 30 million as well.

This team has managed to actually save themselves sooooo much money that eventually they will be doing insanely better, unbelievably better, everyone will be shocked how awesome Barcelona will be in the next decade, they will have the chance to dominate European football again with all the money they will save from this deal. Messi is great and all, but I think he was the only reason the team was doing horrible, sure financial management wasn't good neither but Messi was the main cause of that.

You are totally disregarding marketing side which players like Ronaldo and Messi bring to the club and league. Here is just some numbers I read while browsing local news from last few hours:
*Since PSG signed Messi people are waiting in the line for his jersey, they sold 150 000 shirts with price of 108$. That is 16.2M $ in one day. First bunch of shirts went out in 7 minutes.
*According to some research, Messi leaving Barca will cost them 137M $ per season just in sponsorship deals
*When Ronaldo left Real, interest for La Liga dropped 8% around the world, now when Messi left as well whole La Liga will lose insane amounts of money from sponsorship deals and TV rights

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

*Since PSG signed Messi people are waiting in the line for his jersey, they sold 150 000 shirts with price of 108$. That is 16.2M $ in one day. First bunch of shirts went out in 7 minutes.

PSG will collect enough money from jersey selling in a month or two. It is very impressive income from Messi. He signed a two year contract with PSG, not one year and the contract has a clause to expand 1 more season, makes it up to three year contract.

In coming 3 years, how big is the income from jersey selling for PSG?

*According to some research, Messi leaving Barca will cost them 137M $ per season just in sponsorship deals

It is not only about sponsorship deals but also about income from results in La Liga and Champions League. Losing Messi is bad for Barcelona, in many aspects.

*When Ronaldo left Real, interest for La Liga dropped 8% around the world, now when Messi left as well whole La Liga will lose insane amounts of money from sponsorship deals and TV rights

Just short term and La Liga will still be top leagues in the Europe. Before the era of Messi and Ronaldo, they are top league and they will be like that after this era.