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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.2%)
Real Madrid - 76 (66.1%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (7%)
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October 02, 2021, 11:58:45 PM
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Was a well deserved win by Atl.Madrid and with this one they sure put more pressure on Real Madrid as it seems we might have only a battle in 2 for the title in this year.

Regarding Barcelona....the process is still on a long journey until it will be completed but despite the negative games in both UCL and with big teams in LaLiga , the squad and players kept that same style of playing football and they have the possession so they just need good players that could score or just put more pressure and deliver assists. When they do this , Barcelona will become again a big team who will fight for UCL but this year could be a great one if they deliver Europe League as UCL seems already over.

It looks like that won't be happening anytime soon. Like you said, it's still a long journey and we might be seeing more results like the UCL defeat to Benfica or the defeat to Atlético Madrid in the La liga. It's just painful to see a top tier team like Barcelona losing matches that they would actually win if it was played some years back.
they didn't even score a single goal in two matches, one against Benfica in CL and today against atletico madrid, the big problem is their attack, Depay is fast and he creates a lot of chances but his finish was really bad, he missed a lot of scoring opportunities  in a lot of matches, maybe Aguero can add a little bit to Barca, he's a better finisher despite the fact that he's getting a little old and his performance dropped.

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October 03, 2021, 01:49:37 AM
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Was a well deserved win by Atl.Madrid and with this one they sure put more pressure on Real Madrid as it seems we might have only a battle in 2 for the title in this year.

Regarding Barcelona....the process is still on a long journey until it will be completed but despite the negative games in both UCL and with big teams in LaLiga , the squad and players kept that same style of playing football and they have the possession so they just need good players that could score or just put more pressure and deliver assists. When they do this , Barcelona will become again a big team who will fight for UCL but this year could be a great one if they deliver Europe League as UCL seems already over.

It looks like that won't be happening anytime soon. Like you said, it's still a long journey and we might be seeing more results like the UCL defeat to Benfica or the defeat to Atlético Madrid in the La liga. It's just painful to see a top tier team like Barcelona losing matches that they would actually win if it was played some years back.
they didn't even score a single goal in two matches, one against Benfica in CL and today against atletico madrid, the big problem is their attack, Depay is fast and he creates a lot of chances but his finish was really bad, he missed a lot of scoring opportunities  in a lot of matches, maybe Aguero can add a little bit to Barca, he's a better finisher despite the fact that he's getting a little old and his performance dropped.

You're right , I've seen the match stats that barcelona is in control of the game unfortunately no goals then we can assume that poor finishing up front
imagine with 71% ball possession can't do anything? I'm sure the fans are not comfortable with this situation and the coach will be replaced in the near future

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October 03, 2021, 02:06:08 AM
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Was a well deserved win by Atl.Madrid and with this one they sure put more pressure on Real Madrid as it seems we might have only a battle in 2 for the title in this year.

Regarding Barcelona....the process is still on a long journey until it will be completed but despite the negative games in both UCL and with big teams in LaLiga , the squad and players kept that same style of playing football and they have the possession so they just need good players that could score or just put more pressure and deliver assists. When they do this , Barcelona will become again a big team who will fight for UCL but this year could be a great one if they deliver Europe League as UCL seems already over.

It looks like that won't be happening anytime soon. Like you said, it's still a long journey and we might be seeing more results like the UCL defeat to Benfica or the defeat to Atlético Madrid in the La liga. It's just painful to see a top tier team like Barcelona losing matches that they would actually win if it was played some years back.
they didn't even score a single goal in two matches, one against Benfica in CL and today against atletico madrid, the big problem is their attack, Depay is fast and he creates a lot of chances but his finish was really bad, he missed a lot of scoring opportunities  in a lot of matches, maybe Aguero can add a little bit to Barca, he's a better finisher despite the fact that he's getting a little old and his performance dropped.
Bad finishing from Barcelona last night when played with Atletico Madrid, Countiho got great chance when faced one by one with Oblak but failed to make goal because his finishing very bad. After leaving by Messi day by day Barcelona faced trouble from champion league until domestic league they most difficult to win, on every match almost failed to make goal and they have been most team with many goal made by other team, now waiting what Laporta do with Koeman keep staying or not.

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October 03, 2021, 04:28:40 AM
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Bad finishing from Barcelona last night when played with Atletico Madrid, Countiho got great chance when faced one by one with Oblak but failed to make goal because his finishing very bad. After leaving by Messi day by day Barcelona faced trouble from champion league until domestic league they most difficult to win, on every match almost failed to make goal and they have been most team with many goal made by other team, now waiting what Laporta do with Koeman keep staying or not.
if there is no improvement at Barca, they would have closed the possibility of winning in the league. Barca's problems are very serious, by releasing Messi which is certainly very influential on Barca's game. maybe too much, but we can see Barca are currently losing collectivity in their team play. Barca may be far from the top of the standings.



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October 03, 2021, 04:45:06 AM
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Bad finishing from Barcelona last night when played with Atletico Madrid, Countiho got great chance when faced one by one with Oblak but failed to make goal because his finishing very bad. After leaving by Messi day by day Barcelona faced trouble from champion league until domestic league they most difficult to win, on every match almost failed to make goal and they have been most team with many goal made by other team, now waiting what Laporta do with Koeman keep staying or not.
if there is no improvement at Barca, they would have closed the possibility of winning in the league. Barca's problems are very serious, by releasing Messi which is certainly very influential on Barca's game. maybe too much, but we can see Barca are currently losing collectivity in their team play. Barca may be far from the top of the standings.
Is very obvious that Messi was the secret behind Barcelona's winning more matches, and since he left, Barcelona now have difficulties in winning matches. If they don't improve their performance, am afraid, they won't end this season in the top 4, they are currently in the 9th position. They dominated the match against Atletico Madrid, but couldn't score any goal. And have conceded 7 goals in 7 matches. I think something is wrong with the team, Although, Atletico is not a weak club, but I was expecting at least a draw from Barcelona.



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October 03, 2021, 04:45:33 AM
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This is Koeman's Barcelona. After 70% ball possession, they lost 2-0. Barcelona's defeat was expected. I even bet on Atletico Madrid winning. But I was surprised that the Barcelona team could not score a single goal even after the ball was in their possession. They are such a weak team now. They will not be in the top 3 of the points table. Their place will be after Sevilla.

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October 03, 2021, 04:51:39 AM
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Bad finishing from Barcelona last night when played with Atletico Madrid, Countiho got great chance when faced one by one with Oblak but failed to make goal because his finishing very bad. After leaving by Messi day by day Barcelona faced trouble from champion league until domestic league they most difficult to win, on every match almost failed to make goal and they have been most team with many goal made by other team, now waiting what Laporta do with Koeman keep staying or not.
if there is no improvement at Barca, they would have closed the possibility of winning in the league. Barca's problems are very serious, by releasing Messi which is certainly very influential on Barca's game. maybe too much, but we can see Barca are currently losing collectivity in their team play. Barca may be far from the top of the standings.

It's obvious they Barcelona just can't win the league, they've to do better than this.... almost saying a team not doing enough would be champions in the league ?
Maybe football doesn't work like that, or I feel not taking the job from Ronald Koeman is the problem here now.
A whole lot of chances created but the final third is poor, that should be looked at prior to Valencia and Real Madrid's game.

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October 03, 2021, 09:57:08 AM
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This is Koeman's Barcelona. After 70% ball possession, they lost 2-0. Barcelona's defeat was expected. I even bet on Atletico Madrid winning. But I was surprised that the Barcelona team could not score a single goal even after the ball was in their possession. They are such a weak team now. They will not be in the top 3 of the points table. Their place will be after Sevilla.

Possession is nothing just a stats. It wouldn't give you results until you try some shots and score a goal.

With a 5 man on defence against a side who are struggling to score, I don't find it that surprising that Barca weren't able to score. There are some good players but not sure why they are still unable to get in some points. They need a better manager now, Koeman isn't the right man to do the job.
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Was a well deserved win by Atl.Madrid and with this one they sure put more pressure on Real Madrid as it seems we might have only a battle in 2 for the title in this year.

Regarding Barcelona....the process is still on a long journey until it will be completed but despite the negative games in both UCL and with big teams in LaLiga , the squad and players kept that same style of playing football and they have the possession so they just need good players that could score or just put more pressure and deliver assists. When they do this , Barcelona will become again a big team who will fight for UCL but this year could be a great one if they deliver Europe League as UCL seems already over.

It looks like that won't be happening anytime soon. Like you said, it's still a long journey and we might be seeing more results like the UCL defeat to Benfica or the defeat to Atlético Madrid in the La liga. It's just painful to see a top tier team like Barcelona losing matches that they would actually win if it was played some years back.
they didn't even score a single goal in two matches, one against Benfica in CL and today against atletico madrid, the big problem is their attack, Depay is fast and he creates a lot of chances but his finish was really bad, he missed a lot of scoring opportunities  in a lot of matches, maybe Aguero can add a little bit to Barca, he's a better finisher despite the fact that he's getting a little old and his performance dropped.
Bad finishing from Barcelona last night when played with Atletico Madrid, Countiho got great chance when faced one by one with Oblak but failed to make goal because his finishing very bad. After leaving by Messi day by day Barcelona faced trouble from champion league until domestic league they most difficult to win, on every match almost failed to make goal and they have been most team with many goal made by other team, now waiting what Laporta do with Koeman keep staying or not.
Now there is no great coach who could replace Koeman. You can find it only next summer. Therefore, it makes no sense to fire him. Now Barcelona needs time for players to learn how to play without Messi. He meant too much to the team for his absence to pass unnoticed. Be patient, soon the team will play well and there will be victories.
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October 03, 2021, 11:00:50 AM
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You're right , I've seen the match stats that barcelona is in control of the game unfortunately no goals then we can assume that poor finishing up front
imagine with 71% ball possession can't do anything? I'm sure the fans are not comfortable with this situation and the coach will be replaced in the near future

You don't even have to look at Barcelona's stats to see how bad the team is. It's better to see the two goals conceded against Atletico. Both goals came from counterattacks and both times the Barca players were outnumbered 1 to 2 and yet Atletico was able to combine through good passing and then score the goals through beautiful finishes by Lamar and Suarez.
Barca's performance on offense was even worse. A tragedy for such a proud club.
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October 03, 2021, 11:28:37 AM
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This is Koeman's Barcelona. After 70% ball possession, they lost 2-0. Barcelona's defeat was expected. I even bet on Atletico Madrid winning. But I was surprised that the Barcelona team could not score a single goal even after the ball was in their possession. They are such a weak team now. They will not be in the top 3 of the points table. Their place will be after Sevilla.
Possession is nothing just a stats. It wouldn't give you results until you try some shots and score a goal.
With a 5 man on defence against a side who are struggling to score, I don't find it that surprising that Barca weren't able to score. There are some good players but not sure why they are still unable to get in some points. They need a better manager now, Koeman isn't the right man to do the job.

We all know how much Simeone is focused on a good defensive structure. And while they have a good defensive structure, their attack is very lethal with Suarez, Griezmann, and Felix. Barca has been having their worst start of the season may be in the past 10 years or so. The lack of Messi is being felt so bad by them. They don't have strikers who can score on a regular basis, though Aguero is injured. They will have a tough time ahead. Congrats to Atletico for winning.

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October 03, 2021, 12:16:43 PM
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Was a well deserved win by Atl.Madrid and with this one they sure put more pressure on Real Madrid as it seems we might have only a battle in 2 for the title in this year.

Regarding Barcelona....the process is still on a long journey until it will be completed but despite the negative games in both UCL and with big teams in LaLiga , the squad and players kept that same style of playing football and they have the possession so they just need good players that could score or just put more pressure and deliver assists. When they do this , Barcelona will become again a big team who will fight for UCL but this year could be a great one if they deliver Europe League as UCL seems already over.

It looks like that won't be happening anytime soon. Like you said, it's still a long journey and we might be seeing more results like the UCL defeat to Benfica or the defeat to Atlético Madrid in the La liga. It's just painful to see a top tier team like Barcelona losing matches that they would actually win if it was played some years back.
they didn't even score a single goal in two matches, one against Benfica in CL and today against atletico madrid, the big problem is their attack, Depay is fast and he creates a lot of chances but his finish was really bad, he missed a lot of scoring opportunities  in a lot of matches, maybe Aguero can add a little bit to Barca, he's a better finisher despite the fact that he's getting a little old and his performance dropped.

You're right , I've seen the match stats that barcelona is in control of the game unfortunately no goals then we can assume that poor finishing up front
imagine with 71% ball possession can't do anything? I'm sure the fans are not comfortable with this situation and the coach will be replaced in the near future

I very much doubt the Barcelona coach will be fired anytime soon, he will probably stay for 2 or 3 seasons and from what I understand the central problem is not just the coach, it has to do with the lack of more players capable of scoring.

I'll give you an example:

if barcelona had karin benzema they would win many games

if barcelona had Mbappe they would win many games

if barcelona had cristiano ronaldo they would win many games

if barcelona had Son Heung-min from tottenham  they would win many games

if barcelona had haaland they wouldn't be so short of goals

there are good players in the market who score goals, but Barcelona lacks players of that quality, I have nothing against the current players, but I think they are not producing good results.

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October 03, 2021, 12:17:41 PM
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This is Koeman's Barcelona. After 70% ball possession, they lost 2-0. Barcelona's defeat was expected. I even bet on Atletico Madrid winning. But I was surprised that the Barcelona team could not score a single goal even after the ball was in their possession. They are such a weak team now. They will not be in the top 3 of the points table. Their place will be after Sevilla.
Possession is nothing just a stats. It wouldn't give you results until you try some shots and score a goal.
With a 5 man on defence against a side who are struggling to score, I don't find it that surprising that Barca weren't able to score. There are some good players but not sure why they are still unable to get in some points. They need a better manager now, Koeman isn't the right man to do the job.

From what I think Koeman might be nearing his end at Barcelona very soon. They have been having defensive problems for 3 or 4 seasons and now that Messi is gone, their attacking has also collapsed. Having 70% possession means nothing if you can't finish the ball into the net. Coutinho missed an easy chance which he should really have converted. Selling Suarez and Griezmann was a very bad decision. The funny thing is that Suarez scored against them, whom Koeman said that he was not good enough for the club. The irony!

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October 03, 2021, 12:56:01 PM
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there are good players in the market who score goals, but Barcelona lacks players of that quality, I have nothing against the current players, but I think they are not producing good results.

It doesn't give a guarantee, I think it all depends on the role of the coach. Look he had Suarez yesterday when Koeman came in, but he sold him. Then he had Griezman he also let him go. I don't think he's smart, the arrival of Aguero and Depay didn't make the team any better. What I know at the moment is that they don't have a good striker. Apart from that they are also in this transition period which makes Barca look even worse.

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October 03, 2021, 01:05:36 PM
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Barcelona really know how to steal a headline and by the way they are on a losing streak now which has confirmed that every one is just confused with what's happening with the club because of uncertainty....you might be left to go to another club in an effort to cut their financial obligations . In short these guys are not playing as a team anymore!!

It's so bad such that I can't even remember the last time these guys got a goal ...wouldn't be surprised if they get an early exit in the champions league too Roll Eyes

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October 03, 2021, 01:14:49 PM
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The match between Celta Vigo vs Elche is being held. Elche scored a goal. Although I have not placed any bets on this match, But I thought Celta Vigo will win the match. Because, in the previous match against Elche. Celta Vigo was able to win 3-1. If Elche plays defensively now, they are more likely to win, Celta's strikers are not very strong.



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October 03, 2021, 01:18:11 PM
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Is very obvious that Messi was the secret behind Barcelona's winning more matches, and since he left, Barcelona now have difficulties in winning matches. If they don't improve their performance, am afraid, they won't end this season in the top 4, they are currently in the 9th position. They dominated the match against Atletico Madrid, but couldn't score any goal. And have conceded 7 goals in 7 matches. I think something is wrong with the team, Although, Atletico is not a weak club, but I was expecting at least a draw from Barcelona.
yes, I saw it, Barca dominated the game, but couldn't convert the chances into goals. it is a problem within the team that must be solved.
next in the league Barca vs Valencia October 18 and before that may face another match. I hope Barca can perform better.



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October 03, 2021, 01:27:11 PM
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Bad finishing from Barcelona last night when played with Atletico Madrid, Countiho got great chance when faced one by one with Oblak but failed to make goal because his finishing very bad. After leaving by Messi day by day Barcelona faced trouble from champion league until domestic league they most difficult to win, on every match almost failed to make goal and they have been most team with many goal made by other team, now waiting what Laporta do with Koeman keep staying or not.
if there is no improvement at Barca, they would have closed the possibility of winning in the league. Barca's problems are very serious, by releasing Messi which is certainly very influential on Barca's game. maybe too much, but we can see Barca are currently losing collectivity in their team play. Barca may be far from the top of the standings.
It is this future that Koeman was discussing? Koeman should either be fired immediately or allowed to build a team for the future. We all go through ups and downs in our lives, and the current situation in Barcelona is one of the worst. Nevertheless, I am glad that Suarez scored the goal. The way he was treated was not appropriate after what he has done for the club. One thing makes me nervous, though: what will happen when they meet Bayern? Barcelona should prepare for humiliation against Bayern at the Allianz Arena.

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October 03, 2021, 01:29:45 PM
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From what I think Koeman might be nearing his end at Barcelona very soon. They have been having defensive problems for 3 or 4 seasons and now that Messi is gone, their attacking has also collapsed. Having 70% possession means nothing if you can't finish the ball into the net. Coutinho missed an easy chance which he should really have converted. Selling Suarez and Griezmann was a very bad decision. The funny thing is that Suarez scored against them, whom Koeman said that he was not good enough for the club. The irony!
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Even selling Rakitic was a bad decision. Straight coming into the team he already had his mind set to remove some of the players which were very crucial to the team. Griezmann is gone on loan so not really a permanent transfer but still he would have helped Barca to score some.

I was actually very happy when Suarez scored. It was very hard for Suarez when he left the club. Nice way to pay him back just when the sword of sacking is just swinging around his neck.
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This should make Keoman regret letting Suarez go. If I were him I would be very embarrassed. He's too willing to throw out good players, I don't know how he thinks. Or maybe he doesn't like Suarez?

Suarez's celebration was good too, he signaled his annoyance with a perfect performance. Losing streak, this is truly tragic. Koeman doesn't seem to have the skills to coach a big team.
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