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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
Total Voters: 121

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December 14, 2022, 07:48:07 PM
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the laliga competition is not as interesting as it used to be when I saw it because only 2 teams looked strong compared to the other teams. if it goes on like this I think that there will be less and less fans or spectators in the Laliga and will be more inclined to watch the EPL.
Maybe it can happen, but I think there are always fans in every competition of one of the countries of the world. Messi and Ronaldo used to be an attraction, there was always drama in every season.
At this time, the arrival of Lewandowski, and several other players certainly gave a different kind of appeal. So I think La Liga will stay alive with the players that are there. That problem of dominance also occurred in Germany and some other countries. But their League is still running and entertaining some of its fans.
Starting from the era of Ronaldo and Messi the La Liga has never been as competitive as the English Premier League and neither has there been plenty clubs competing for the title. It has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona and sometimes Atletico Madrid and the likes of Sevilla who will also will be at 5th or 6th position. I have never seen a big upset where an underdog takes them by surprise just like what happened in England with Liecester City.

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December 14, 2022, 08:36:20 PM
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It is really very difficult for Sevilla to even get near top 4 from now on. Of course we aren't mathematically in the middle of the season yet but the gap with Sevilla and the fourth team in the league is already 13 now. There is no promising game Sevilla have played until now. Even changing their manager and bringing Sampaoli haven't made any difference until now. This is making me think like the manager wasn't actually the problem for them. It must be something mental related to the players these days.

Sampaoli needs to make a big improvement in the morale level of the players. This break must be great for the players to take a deep breath and look at what they have done wrong so far. Hopefully they come back stronger and get away from the relegation area immediately.

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December 14, 2022, 09:10:40 PM
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Barcelona has two hopes of getting the Trophy this season. but their chances in the Europa league are more difficult when compared to Laliga. Several teams will be waiting for Barcelona in each round where Manchester United will be the next opponent. Xavi does have a pretty good rally with Barcelona this season but one thing left him speechless when Barcelona had to be eliminated from the champions league this season. Barcelona needs time to strengthen the squad to get a trophy this season. It is possible that the transfer window will be excited again with the reshuffle that has occurred in the Barcelona transfer window.

the laliga competition is not as interesting as it used to be when I saw it because only 2 teams looked strong compared to the other teams. if it goes on like this I think that there will be less and less fans or spectators in the Laliga and will be more inclined to watch the EPL.
That is going to be very tough but also not impossible at the same time. I am guessing that it is quite possible for Barcelona to get la liga this year, that is not going to be as hard as Europa because even if they lose some points they could still win the title, but Europa will be harder because losing even one game is a big deal that can cause you to lose entirely.

This year is a bit better than last year because they made sure that they bought some younger players for many positions, and got rid of many older players. Which means they run a lot more and if you wan to play the tiki*taka that Xavi plays, then you need to be able to actually run fast and pass well.

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December 14, 2022, 09:10:47 PM
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It is really very difficult for Sevilla to even get near top 4 from now on. Of course we aren't mathematically in the middle of the season yet but the gap with Sevilla and the fourth team in the league is already 13 now. There is no promising game Sevilla have played until now. Even changing their manager and bringing Sampaoli haven't made any difference until now. This is making me think like the manager wasn't actually the problem for them. It must be something mental related to the players these days.

Sampaoli needs to make a big improvement in the morale level of the players. This break must be great for the players to take a deep breath and look at what they have done wrong so far. Hopefully they come back stronger and get away from the relegation area immediately.
It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.

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December 14, 2022, 09:13:20 PM
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It is really very difficult for Sevilla to even get near top 4 from now on. Of course we aren't mathematically in the middle of the season yet but the gap with Sevilla and the fourth team in the league is already 13 now. There is no promising game Sevilla have played until now. Even changing their manager and bringing Sampaoli haven't made any difference until now. This is making me think like the manager wasn't actually the problem for them. It must be something mental related to the players these days.

Sampaoli needs to make a big improvement in the morale level of the players. This break must be great for the players to take a deep breath and look at what they have done wrong so far. Hopefully they come back stronger and get away from the relegation area immediately.
It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.

There is no logical explanation for Seville. The fact is that Sevilla already started this bad series last season. Things went wrong when they were in 2nd place. Then they had a very bad series in which they ended up 4th. That bad series was apparently no coincidence, because they have continued that negative line again this season. I also wonder why they are performing so poorly, because not much has changed in terms of player material. Corona can no longer have an impact on this team either. Maybe time for another trainer?

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@Furious7 I personally agree that Real Madrid need to start planning beyond Benzema, and they should definitely buy one striker right away in the January transfer window. Furthermore even if Benzema returns I feel that he’ll last for maximum 2 seasons at his age, hence this is the perfect opportunity for Real Madrid to plan ahead and maybe they could target João Félix what do you’ll think of this transfer?.
I think this is a little difficult, especially considering the current condition of Joao Felix in the rival camp, even though it is possible for Madrid, this will also create a lot of responses, especially for the fans from both sides.
On the other hand, now Joao Felix has dropped slightly to be an option if you look at his games during these 2 seasons, especially now that Mendes as an agent is going to England to talk about the possibility of Felix with Manchester United.
I think it's better that their target regarding Osimhen doesn't change even though they have to think about several other options in terms of players because they are worried that Osimhen won't be brought in.

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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla's performance this season has been very devastated and personally, if you look at their current condition, it will be very profitable if they get out of their discomfort zone because their current position because they are in the relegation zone is really beyond expectations.
They have to overhaul everything in the squad so that this condition doesn't get worse because otherwise they might have to be reluctant to go to Segunda B at the end of the season.

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Sevilla had a really bad first half of the season.
They have too much draw and then get lost consecutively as for the result they are staying at the bottom 3 which it's quite misery , one thing i believe that they would survive ... the next transfer window must be a momentum to comeback to where they belong , into the top 5 ... at least get into the mid table.
They got too much lose and draw. So far, they got 7 loses and 5 draws. They only won 2 times. Very very bad stats.  Undecided

Sure, Sevilla needs some new players, especially on the defense line. They should get some strong defenders in the next transfer window to strengthen their defense. I think they have no problems with midfield and attacking line, mostly the problem is in the defense line.

Another problem is in their tactic. They don't only focus on signing new players, but they must evaluate the tactic/strategy as well. Changing the coach may be a good solution, too.


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December 14, 2022, 11:20:01 PM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.

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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad

So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.


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If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad
Performances of players at their clubs and their national teams can be the same or be different. Some players have poor performances in their clubs but always play well at their national teams. In the past, we have a German player, Lukas Podoski and recently we have an English player Harry Maguire from Manchester United or Ochoa from Mexico.

These players did not make too much noise in La Liga and they suddenly have excellent performances in World Cup 2022 with Morocco. They are not bad players but not good enough to be considered as star players in La Liga.

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So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.
In the past season, Sevilla participated in La Liga competition for the trophy with two giants Real Madrid and Barcelona. They have very opposite performance in this season and when a club have a poor form, it should be responsibility of their coach and players. No single person should be responsible for it, not only Sampaoli certainly.

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December 15, 2022, 04:49:25 AM
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the laliga competition is not as interesting as it used to be when I saw it because only 2 teams looked strong compared to the other teams. if it goes on like this I think that there will be less and less fans or spectators in the Laliga and will be more inclined to watch the EPL.
Maybe it can happen, but I think there are always fans in every competition of one of the countries of the world. Messi and Ronaldo used to be an attraction, there was always drama in every season.
At this time, the arrival of Lewandowski, and several other players certainly gave a different kind of appeal. So I think La Liga will stay alive with the players that are there. That problem of dominance also occurred in Germany and some other countries. But their League is still running and entertaining some of its fans.
Lalliga is quite different from other leagues,especially when those big names that you mentioned were brought back to the league to make the tittle race competitive.It is unlike the Bundesliga league where their is only one team dominating and winning the league back to back without no other team fighting it hard with them.It makes the game of football boring.I believe Barca will really be looking at taking the Lalliga trophy again,and because of their thirst for the tittle again,they will want to add one or two more quality signings to their squad by January transfer window.
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December 15, 2022, 05:11:10 AM
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Sevilla is a team that is suitable for competing at least in the middle of the board or fighting for a ticket to the Europa League with the squad they have. I agree that maybe there is something wrong with the strategy implemented by the coach or there are internal problems that are not heard by the public so we see a significant decline from Sevilla. I honestly don't think this will happen to them this season, considering their good play last season.
Indeed. Considering their squad with some good players, they should be in the top 10 at least. And they deserve to play in Europa League because they have good players. Bono, Rakitic, Isco, Lamela, Januzaj, El Nesyri are some of the famous players in Sevilla squad. I'm surprised that although having these players, Sevilla can drop into the relegation zone. They should have no problem with squad quality, that's why I assume there is a problem with their tactic, players' mentality, or teamwork. In this situation, I think the solution is to hire a new coach as soon as posible.


Sevilla had a really bad first half of the season.

They have too much draw and then get lost consecutively as for the result they are staying at the bottom 3 which it's quite misery , one thing i believe that they would survive ... the next transfer window must be a momentum to comeback to where they belong , into the top 5 ... at least get into the mid table.
Some sevilla's player already shown good performance during the world cup. That might become a chance for sevilla to sell these players with higher price and then replace all of them with quality player or try to sign a new coach for the club.
There's no guarantee buying the new players will make sevilla can go up drastically from the relegation zone. It must be noted that if sevilla's performance was the worst.
I guess that the players didn't feel confidence with the club. Some players able to give their best performance during the world cup unlike when they were playing for sevilla.

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December 15, 2022, 06:12:20 AM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad

So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.


Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week

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December 15, 2022, 10:36:28 AM
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Actually I want to say something a little harsh about him wanting trophies because this is the thing that has to be done because if he can't then his future will be threatened at Barcelona if he can't bring one trophy.
He has gambled this season by pouring out a lot of money on player transfers so it is certain that the payment is a trophy at least one trophy or even more and when he fails then this will not be much different from the Koeman era because he will also be branded as a coach fail.
If Barcelona want to do well in La Liga, they need to make changes to their first defense line-up. Because one of the problems of the Barcelona team is the defense, that is, the defense is not always able to stop the attack of the opposing team. When Barcelona get some great defense their team will be full strength.
Looking at the current conditions, it seems that this is indeed important, but the problem is that Xavi doesn't pay much attention to this and doesn't seem to care much, even though if you look at the current conditions, Pique is not there, plus next season, the possibility of losing Alba and Busquets, they should be prepared from now on. but Xavi is only focused on their attack line, there are even rumors today that they will also bring in a striker again.

This will look lame actually when a good line of attack is not accompanied by a good line of defense, so of course the results will be a little difficult even though the best defense is to attack but we also have to be aware that an imbalance occurs for a team so it will be difficult for them to navigate the season.

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December 15, 2022, 12:16:39 PM
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Maybe the scenario won't be as complicated as we discussed. I am sure that Xavi does not work alone. there are officials, assistant coaches, and everyone is clearly involved in rebuilding Barcelona to its former glory. On the other hand, like it or not, Barcelona had to sell a number of other players and some of them ended up this season. like one of them, Busquets whose contract is about to expire. after all, he really underperformed. other names such as Jordi Alba, who has been widely rumored after Barcelona was eliminated from the Champions League.

IMO, Xavi really has a very complicated job, besides he has the burden of winning the La Liga trophy, plus the Europa League. however, I agree that Barcelona should sell some of its players and replace them with newcomers. Regarding the back line, I think they will make changes once this season rolls back up.

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December 15, 2022, 01:14:38 PM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
It is very interesting continue the discussion about Sevilla, after finishing in the top four last season, Sevilla have struggled this season and have kept them mired in the relegation zone. I'm not sure Sevilla will be able to finish in the top six this season, their poor form will continue if they don't bring in new players soon in the transfer market. Sevilla needs to spend some money to bring in players when the transfer opens to improve their performance so they can get out of the red zone.

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December 15, 2022, 01:25:34 PM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad

So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.


Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week
Not many Sevilla players have gone to the world cup, there are at least 3 to 4 players who have participated in the tournament. Maybe there is so much homework that they have to finish so they can come back in good form. The position of 14 in the standings last season is still fairly bad, we cannot avoid that Sevilla is the worst club in La Liga, they should be in the top 5. Whatever happens, at least they have to keep trying so as not to fall into the relegation zone.

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Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week
Sevilla will be able to give a surprise after the world cup is over, if you look at Sevilla where 10 players from Sevilla played in the Qatar world cup and that was a pretty good achievement for them after Laliga resumed. a lot of games left this season and they need to be able to play consistently to get a win in order to get out of the relegation zone. as for other than that sevilla can try some good opportunities in the transfer window to buy some players who can strengthen their back line. remaining 24 matches which will be an important point for sevilla to improve their ranking in the standings table.

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Starting from the era of Ronaldo and Messi the La Liga has never been as competitive as the English Premier League and neither has there been plenty clubs competing for the title. It has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona and sometimes Atletico Madrid and the likes of Sevilla who will also will be at 5th or 6th position.
Ronaldo appeared in Real Madrid for training, not with their squad but he trained with his personal coach. No confirmation that Ronaldo will join Real Madrid for rest of season and his chance is slim. Beyond reasons related to his poor form recent months, a recovery of Benzema is another reason Real Madrid might not need Ronaldo.

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I have never seen a big upset where an underdog takes them by surprise just like what happened in England with Liecester City.
In La Liga, dominations of Real Madrid and Barcelona are too big and in the past season, we have Barcelona with best ever time in their club history and Real Madrid that managed to won 5 Champions League within 10 years. Considering it and thinking about strength of Barcelona and Real Madrid, how other clubs can win La Liga.

In the past, there were some under dogs like Valencia, Deportivo La Coruna (anyone still remembered this club), Atletico Madrid a few years ago and I believe in coming two to three years, other clubs might have great chances to beat these giants. Real Madrid must reshuffle their teams with some legendary players will leave or retire. Barcelona still need more time for their young players to improve ability to carry pressure of winning titles.

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