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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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November 25, 2023, 07:12:39 PM
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It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.

There has been a history Rayo vallecano with Barcelona having to struggle most of the time to win them or probably end up in a draw with them but this season Barcelona had a fair start and at some point some set back due to injury but in recent times it appears their injured players were back, in the person of lewandoski and others, such that there was a beam of hope with the fact that the return from injury will further help the teams do better but it seems like the reverse has been the case as they have gone below their form at the start of the season.
If we refer to the last four matches, Barcelona must be wary of Rayo Vallecano. Xavi certainly has to remember this and must devise the right strategy so that the winning target is achieved. I still believe that the Blaugrana will be able to perform well even though statistically their performance has decreased.

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November 25, 2023, 07:14:10 PM
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Many people in the world are unaware of a football team called Girona. As a team, they are currently at the top of the points table in La Liga. Today, Barcelona lost 2 points away in Vallecano. Girona will face Atletic Bilbao at home on Monday. If Girona becomes champion this year, it will make its fairy tale come true.
It is clear that La Liga has ceased to be the most followed league after Ronaldo and Messi left.

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November 25, 2023, 07:15:09 PM
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Barcelona again played a very disappointing match, the system and style of player is something not attributed to a big team, they go into the match conceding first and then they start to play the catch up game even against small teams that they are expected to demolish.
Today against Barcelona went down to Rayo vallecano in the first half and had to wait late into the second half to equalize by an own goal, it's time Barcelona make a decision on their present coach Xavi Hernandez.

As I said before, it is not uncommon for Barcelona to always experience difficulties when facing Rayo. thus, Rayo succeeded in holding the two Spanish League giants to a draw. With this result, Alteltico Madrid has the potential to match Barcelona's points. with the condition, ATM must get full points when hosting Mallorca.

Returning to Barcelona, ​​it is clear that we as Barca supporters are quite disappointed with the final result. In fact, Barca was lucky to end up 1-1 because of a blunder made by Rayo players. referring to match statistics, in the first half Xavi implemented a 4-3-3 pattern. Even though they dominated the game, in fact Rayo had more chances and a goal was scored in the 39th minute. Entering the second half, Xavi changed his pattern to 4-2-3-1. because Barca is catching up, they inevitably have to appear aggressive. Barcelona continues to dominate the game. in fact, they had more chances than in the first half. and Rayo, tend to play more safely with defensive games.
Luckily, Barcelona was not embarrassed. but if the final result is 1-0. Barca was completely humiliated by Rayo. In this match, De Jong did not play with a good performance. It seems that he is less than ideal in a duet with Oriol Romeo. But, I was a little surprised, usually Xavi is slow to respond even though his team is behind first. However, in this match, he responded more quickly in changing his players. However, the final result is still not a victory for Barcelona and we have to be satisfied with just one point which Barcelona can take home to Camp Nou.

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November 25, 2023, 07:20:57 PM
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It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.

There has been a history Rayo vallecano with Barcelona having to struggle most of the time to win them or probably end up in a draw with them but this season Barcelona had a fair start and at some point some set back due to injury but in recent times it appears their injured players were back, in the person of lewandoski and others, such that there was a beam of hope with the fact that the return from injury will further help the teams do better but it seems like the reverse has been the case as they have gone below their form at the start of the season.
A standard club like Barcelona having share points with Rayo Vallecano which is unacceptable. Blaugrana was losing 1nil until they were able to invade their oppositions defendlines with more pressures than expected. Injury hits harder for Barcelona and its really affecting them in league matches this season. Xavi Hernandez will try his best to enchance the team but he would need more time to execute his project for the club. Barcelona suffered decline in performance this season, I'm hoping they're able to recover on time because it's pure competition.

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November 25, 2023, 07:25:21 PM
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Vallecano should have been able to get full points but unfortunately they made a mistake which resulted in an own goal. How many times has Barcelona been saved by this process and the last time Barcelona got it was against Sevilla. I feel that Barcelona, wherever they are, will always be lucky, but if they continue like that, there will come a time when they will be out of title contention. Girona and Real Madrid will compete with each other and they will soon forget about Barcelona.
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November 25, 2023, 07:27:17 PM
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Barcelona again played a very disappointing match, the system and style of player is something not attributed to a big team, they go into the match conceding first and then they start to play the catch up game even against small teams that they are expected to demolish.
Today against Barcelona went down to Rayo vallecano in the first half and had to wait late into the second half to equalize by an own goal, it's time Barcelona make a decision on their present coach Xavi Hernandez.
Barcelona have become very unserious this days i will keep saying it even last season they dont deserve, so am not surprised with their performance this night, I only have two winner in mind for la Liga which her Girona and real Madrid does teams show commitment in their current games. Compare to barca, Rayo Vallecano scored 39 minutes of the game and look at the time that Barcelona was trying to equalize it was even like a struggle to me the way they were playing, and Girona is already leading with 34 points and gradually going up and Barcelona is gradually going down if they don't pick on time and strengthen their will power then their will be serious problem in their consistency.

Exactly Barcelona are not performing well again they always suffer when playing with Rayo Vallecano they play well I think xavi will just forget about the laliga trophy this season because they are not playing like Girona and Real Madrid they should just focus on the Champions league if they can win the trophy but I don't think xavi will win champions league for Barcelona now expect he have bought Some new players in the club since Lewandowski is no longer good enough to make the club stronger, if Barcelona does not improve I believe they will finish four positions in the league because Athletico Madrid is performing well in the league and I am confident they will win their match against Mallorca and they will be sharing the same points with Barcelona, it is only Real Madrid that I feel will win the La Liga this season because I am confident Girona will drop points one day since Real Madrid are the greatest in the league.

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November 25, 2023, 07:36:10 PM
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It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.

There has been a history Rayo vallecano with Barcelona having to struggle most of the time to win them or probably end up in a draw with them but this season Barcelona had a fair start and at some point some set back due to injury but in recent times it appears their injured players were back, in the person of lewandoski and others, such that there was a beam of hope with the fact that the return from injury will further help the teams do better but it seems like the reverse has been the case as they have gone below their form at the start of the season.
A standard club like Barcelona having share points with Rayo Vallecano which is unacceptable. Blaugrana was losing 1nil until they were able to invade their oppositions defendlines with more pressures than expected. Injury hits harder for Barcelona and its really affecting them in league matches this season. Xavi Hernandez will try his best to enchance the team but he would need more time to execute his project for the club. Barcelona suffered decline in performance this season, I'm hoping they're able to recover on time because it's pure competition.

I know it's unacceptable because Barcelona is the favorite team in that match, but believe me matches against Rayo Vallecano are never easy. Rayo Vallecano can always give Barcelona problems even if they play with their best squad, that's just a fact that I can't hide from you.

Good defense, taking advantage of opportunities and the desire not to lose has made Rayo Vallecano play as expected every time they play against Barcelona. What's next, of course Xavi has to move forward because this season he has lost so many points even though he has only had one defeat. This is not the end of it as the season is still too long to expect improvement.

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November 25, 2023, 07:52:27 PM
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Barcelona was really lucky in this match because they had 1 goal which came from an own goal by Florian Lejeune. I was a little surprised to see the match statistics, because there I saw that Barcelona dominated in terms of ball possession (at 67%), but they lost in terms of attack. This means that Barcelona can only get the ball but are not very good at organizing attacks into the Rayo Vallecano zone.

Even though they didn't completely lose points, Real Madrid still has a gap to get a better position than them. As I said before, Real Madrid's opponent is Cadiz, it will give them more confidence to fly further in the La Liga standings.
Barcelona created many attempt but they can't any goal yet except won goals by Florian Lejeune on 82' minutes helped one points achievement although can't make close points with Real Madrid and Girona. Xavi Hernandez have acceptable with some rotation made exactly with attacking line playing Ferran Torres and Yamal on the first minute. Another rotation when put Ikay Gundogan on the bench and les creativities on midfielder until difficult for Robert Lewandowski scoring goals in this match.

Barcelona have loss points again on crucial moment if tomorrow match Girona secure three points against Athletic Bilbao will make gap six points left and will be difficult for upcoming matches. I think Barcelona never loss points anymore if want keep in La Liga fighting race with Girona and Real Madrid are potential get their three points next match against Cadiz.

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November 25, 2023, 08:35:24 PM
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Even though if that was a minor injury and that needs to be observed even deeper to make sure this minor injury will not turn to be a serious injury. Ancellotti needs to change the line up on its attacking line. Real madrid will be forced to buy the new attackers.
We have only brahim and joselu who can play as a strikers for real madrid at this moment. I think that ancellotti will be rotating the line up again. He is going to put joselo and brahim diaz along with bellingham.

Ancelloti has not yet lost a chance to win the game caused by it's still having capable players but yeah missing vini and rodrygo was a big blow for real madrid caused by it's going to face serious match in UCL.
Joselu and brahim will become the only hopes owned by real madrid at this moment. El real needs to make sure everything will be going so well. The club is even closer to the opening of winter transfer window.

Real madrid can start to target the player before the market is going to be opened. I hope i will see more great players to join in real madrid soon.
Ancellotti needs to find more attackers to be used as backup.
The injury problem is big deal for Real Madrid as it’s threatening their attacking football and if they’ll really want to compete on Europe and for their league, they need to score goals amd Real Madrid won’t want to rely just on Joselu and Diaz, this January window, Real Madrid will make the best of it and get some quality signings to the team, one worthy to make them compete among top teams in Europe

 Vini out and Rodrygo too will be a big worry for Don Carlo Ancelotti and he’ll have to effect some rotation and get some youngsters and mix of old breeds such as Kroos and Modric to feature, Real Madrid has the funds and will be able to acquire top players and we’ll see a different Madrid side after the January window.

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November 25, 2023, 08:44:42 PM
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Buying players may not be priority for Barcelona this season especially as they are not financially boyant enough to shoulder such bill they may rather just have to improve their performance with the team they have got already that way it will save them cost and they will optimize their team depth.
Xavi may have the intention to sign new players, but the Barcelona management probably has no enough money for new players. If Xavi wants new players, the only option is to get from Barcelona Atlètic. Xavi actually has done the option, he already take some players such as Ander Astralaga, Fermín López, and Lamine Yamal.

They have still got good players after all except for the case of lewandoski they have almost little to no case of injury this season so most of their players are still in good form and strength to be able to make sure they get the best out of this season. Barcelona just needs to further work on their tactics and they players positioning aswell as rotation when possible amongst players, that way they get to maximize the squad except they may opt in for a loan where necessary.
Yes, there are many good players in Barcelona squad. But many of them can't play in their best form nowadays. Not sure what's happening with them, it may be caused by the tactics or low motivation in playing. Or it can be the impacts because some players got injury for a long time. Lewandowski is one of the player who experienced this problem, he can't play at his best level anymore after he got severe injury.


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November 25, 2023, 08:55:21 PM
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That's the truth, I completely agree with what you said about Barcelona. Xavi squad needed a Rayo own goal to save their face this time, reportedly Xavi has not been able to break his curse of beating Rayo Vallecano since taking charge of Barcelona. Xavi has a lot of work to do in the future, Porto will be their next test at UCL.
I don't see anything wrong with Barcelona's performance in this away match against Rayo Vallecano. Barcelona played well with its best squad, but Barcelona was just not good with its final finishing. Barcelona made 16 kicks and 5 of them were on target, but Stole Dimitrievski has always been a good defender for Rayo Vallecano in many matches against Barcelona.

I certainly agree that Xavi as manager has important work to do after this draw. Some of the players who have returned from injury have not yet fully returned to their best performance, but this team will be better because now the squad is complete. I think Xavi will prepare his best strategy against Porto in the Champions League and positively Barcelona will have a good squad later.

According to calculations, ATM can shift Barcelona position to fourth in the standings if they can win the match against Mallorca, and another postponed match against Sevilla. I think this is a reality that Barcelona must be very aware of, otherwise it will create a significant points gap in the future.

Girona will be very rampant at the top of the La Liga standings by taking advantage of the bad situation of the elite teams. Don't let us take back what we have said about Girona that, when faced with a big team, Girona will lose. But in reality, these big teams put themselves in a difficult position.
Barcelona is fully aware of that, but a different scenario is expected. Don't worry, as defending champions, Barcelona will likely get out of trouble and will find their best form in the next match. Regarding Girona, you might just have to wait for next few games and get his performance down.

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November 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
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Buying players may not be priority for Barcelona this season especially as they are not financially boyant enough to shoulder such bill they may rather just have to improve their performance with the team they have got already that way it will save them cost and they will optimize their team depth.
Xavi may have the intention to sign new players, but the Barcelona management probably has no enough money for new players. If Xavi wants new players, the only option is to get from Barcelona Atlètic. Xavi actually has done the option, he already take some players such as Ander Astralaga, Fermín López, and Lamine Yamal.

They have still got good players after all except for the case of lewandoski they have almost little to no case of injury this season so most of their players are still in good form and strength to be able to make sure they get the best out of this season. Barcelona just needs to further work on their tactics and they players positioning aswell as rotation when possible amongst players, that way they get to maximize the squad except they may opt in for a loan where necessary.
Yes, there are many good players in Barcelona squad. But many of them can't play in their best form nowadays. Not sure what's happening with them, it may be caused by the tactics or low motivation in playing. Or it can be the impacts because some players got injury for a long time. Lewandowski is one of the player who experienced this problem, he can't play at his best level anymore after he got severe injury.



Obviously, any coach including Xavi wants to have many players in their team and they want to hire the better layer they have right now. But I think that's not something they can do that for the Barcelona team, because Barcelona is not in a good financial situation, and hiring new players can't be easy for this team with the current situation they have.
  

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November 25, 2023, 09:18:58 PM
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On the one hand, an unexpected result, on the other hand, it turns out that Rayo Vallecano takes points from Barcelona in the fifth consecutive game (within La Liga). The game itself looked like an equal one, and it’s not even clear who should be dissatisfied with the draw result. One way or another, Real (and Girona hahaha) got another chance to increase their advantage over Barcelona. By the way, if Atlético wins the two games they have in hand (relative to Barcelona), they will also bypass them.
Barcelona play very well with possession and creativity, but unfortunately, some of the referee mistakes make them lose the match and also lose league competition points. VAR VAR did not even give Barcelona a penalty when a Rayo Vallecano player pushed Robert Lewandowski in the penalty box and fell. Therefore, if you look at it, in reality, Barcelona did not perform well. In the last five games, Barcelona showed poor performance, while Lewandowski also did not see any bounce back in terms of performance. Xavi's tactics were also weak because if Coah performed less, obviously the tactics would also be physically under pressure.

And when the games are going like this, I think Barcelona will win the league match with difficulty. And apart from this, the champion league is also a hard competition. If the poor performance continues like this, it will be difficult for Barcelona to survive. because its players are suffering from crucial injuries. So if Xavi doesn't maintain his performance, then the clubs may find it difficult to win in La Liga or the UEFA Champions League.

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November 25, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
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Obviously, any coach including Xavi wants to have many players in their team and they want to hire the better layer they have right now. But I think that's not something they can do that for the Barcelona team, because Barcelona is not in a good financial situation, and hiring new players can't be easy for this team with the current situation they have.
  
We know the problem of Barcelona this season, they have been under pressure and this is basically having a negative impact on their players. Injuries and fatigue have cause good players decline in performance and this is terribly below the require standards of the team. Today's draw against Rayo Vallecano means Barcelona are struggling and not back on their feet this season. Xavi Hernandez should comprehend everything within his reach if he's still keen on winning league games and becoming more active in the competitive title race. Barcelona can sign players but it's going to be limited due to the cases they face in FFP.

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November 25, 2023, 09:26:05 PM
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It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.
Yes, we can say that Barcelona's condition during this match was not optimal. Some of their first players experienced injuries and of course quite bad fatigue. So inevitably it still affects their performance. Even though they should remain as professional as possible, however, under these conditions, they cannot be optimal. The 1-1 draw with Rayo Valeccano made their position increasingly in danger of being overtaken by Atletico Madrid.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, Atletico Madrid is currently likely to win because they are leading 1 - 0 against Mallorca  until 69'

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November 25, 2023, 09:32:24 PM
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Obviously, any coach including Xavi wants to have many players in their team and they want to hire the better layer they have right now. But I think that's not something they can do that for the Barcelona team, because Barcelona is not in a good financial situation, and hiring new players can't be easy for this team with the current situation they have.
  
Financial situation is the main problem Barcelona is facing which is the reason they are unable to buy players, but Xavi should have managed the little one he have to be gaining good results for the team. Playing against Vallecano is not a good one especially seeing that Barcelona have been winning them for long, and they need some points to fight for title with Madrid. I think Xavi need to work on his tactics as a coach to giver Barcelona a better performance.

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November 25, 2023, 09:38:55 PM
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Obviously, any coach including Xavi wants to have many players in their team and they want to hire the better layer they have right now. But I think that's not something they can do that for the Barcelona team, because Barcelona is not in a good financial situation, and hiring new players can't be easy for this team with the current situation they have.
  
It is difficult for Barcelona in conditions where they are still hampered by financial problems but are required to continue to play well. This is a heavy burden actually for Xavi but Barcelona's current internal problems are still quite a lot and that is now compounded by several injured players who make it difficult for them to maintain their performance.
Today's match their attacking line was very blunt but I don't want to blame Lewandowski either even though there were several chances he wasted in this match but indeed Barcelona's midfield without several core players is also a little problematic which results in a lack of proper ball supply for Lewa.
I also don't really understand why they are forcing 1 striker which we know Lewandowski is quite problematic in his current form when there are other options by implementing 4-3-3 in this match which I think would be much better.

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November 25, 2023, 09:48:37 PM
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Yes, we can say that Barcelona's condition during this match was not optimal. Some of their first players experienced injuries and of course quite bad fatigue. So inevitably it still affects their performance. Even though they should remain as professional as possible, however, under these conditions, they cannot be optimal. The 1-1 draw with Rayo Valeccano made their position increasingly in danger of being overtaken by Atletico Madrid.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, Atletico Madrid is currently likely to win because they are leading 1 - 0 against Mallorca  until 69'
However, Barcelona was lucky not to lose this match because they couldn't score a goal and luck came when an own goal occurred and the score became 1-1. I see Barcelona being a little overwhelmed in this match because they had several good opportunities but couldn't convert them into goals. So, if the current standings position is where Barcelona is increasingly lagging behind Real Madrid and Girona and if Girona is able to win the match against Bilbao then Barcelona will already be 6 points behind Girona. But for that we'll see if Girona can maximize the gap in points with the teams below them.

Yes, Atletico Madrid is able to move Barcelona ranking because Atletico Madrid is already leading 1-0 and now the match has entered the 88th minute, which means that Atletico Madrid has a big chance of being able to maintain this advantage. I think they will play carefully and extra time will be a very crucial point to be able to maintain the advantage they have.

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November 25, 2023, 09:50:37 PM
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Barcelona created many attempt but they can't any goal yet except won goals by Florian Lejeune on 82' minutes helped one points achievement although can't make close points with Real Madrid and Girona. Xavi Hernandez have acceptable with some rotation made exactly with attacking line playing Ferran Torres and Yamal on the first minute. Another rotation when put Ikay Gundogan on the bench and les creativities on midfielder until difficult for Robert Lewandowski scoring goals in this match.

Barcelona have loss points again on crucial moment if tomorrow match Girona secure three points against Athletic Bilbao will make gap six points left and will be difficult for upcoming matches. I think Barcelona never loss points anymore if want keep in La Liga fighting race with Girona and Real Madrid are potential get their three points next match against Cadiz.
It seems that Xavi's intention was not to overwork the players and rest some of their core players but actually it was a mistake because with 1 striker where Lewandowski is still having problems with his performance it is not too good for them. In addition, Xavi played too much with their young players in this match and the difference in this match was that Xavi still tried Cancelo as a right full back when his ideal position is left fullback.
The only advantage Barcelona received was an own goal from a Rayo Vallecano player because if there was no own goal then they would have lost points in this match.

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November 25, 2023, 09:53:00 PM
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Even though if that was a minor injury and that needs to be observed even deeper to make sure this minor injury will not turn to be a serious injury. Ancellotti needs to change the line up on its attacking line. Real madrid will be forced to buy the new attackers.
We have only brahim and joselu who can play as a strikers for real madrid at this moment. I think that ancellotti will be rotating the line up again. He is going to put joselo and brahim diaz along with bellingham.

Ancelloti has not yet lost a chance to win the game caused by it's still having capable players but yeah missing vini and rodrygo was a big blow for real madrid caused by it's going to face serious match in UCL.
Joselu and brahim will become the only hopes owned by real madrid at this moment. El real needs to make sure everything will be going so well. The club is even closer to the opening of winter transfer window.

Real madrid can start to target the player before the market is going to be opened. I hope i will see more great players to join in real madrid soon.
Ancellotti needs to find more attackers to be used as backup.
The injury problem is big deal for Real Madrid as it’s threatening their attacking football and if they’ll really want to compete on Europe and for their league, they need to score goals amd Real Madrid won’t want to rely just on Joselu and Diaz, this January window, Real Madrid will make the best of it and get some quality signings to the team, one worthy to make them compete among top teams in Europe

 Vini out and Rodrygo too will be a big worry for Don Carlo Ancelotti and he’ll have to effect some rotation and get some youngsters and mix of old breeds such as Kroos and Modric to feature, Real Madrid has the funds and will be able to acquire top players and we’ll see a different Madrid side after the January window.

Even after having players like Rodrygo and Vini, Ancelotti still needs a good finisher and I think that's not something they can get from Rodrygo or Vini that's why Real Madrid is seeking for a good sticker for their team. However comparing Rodrygo and Vini, I think the performance of Rodrygo was even better Vini and he was definitely a more reliable player for his team.

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