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Question: 2024/2025 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 17 (37.8%)
Real Madrid - 25 (55.6%)
Atletico Madrid - 0 (0%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 0 (0%)
Villareal - 1 (2.2%)
Real Sociedad - 2 (4.4%)
Other - 0 (0%)
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August 04, 2024, 07:54:00 PM
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The results of the pre-season tour match between Madrid and Barcelona cannot be used as a complete basis to describe the performance of both of them next season, because it could be that in the official match later the results will be different. But Barcelona victory deserves appreciation, they showed an attitude of never giving up on difficult situations, so that it did not disturb their focus on a match. Meanwhile, we know that Madrid has a higher chance of winning La Liga again, because they have a very ideal squad depth compared to other contestants.

I only watch little about the match because on a regular game, Anceloti wouldn't start some of the players he used that day but some how start some and I don't know the motives but it was a disappointment from my end. It could be he was trying to reduce any form of injuries because it's is an El classico game but I'm not impressed as if we are ready for this season. The Endric was jumping from one place with low ball control is very poor, they need to evaluate that signing again .

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On paper there is no doubt about Madrid next season, Ancelotti squad even seen scary in every competition. We understand that only Barcelona can be relied on to suppress Madrid at the domestic level, teams like Atletico, Girona and other contestants look like mere complements. However, with the number of surprises we see in every competition, anything is still possible. Before La Liga started, many bettors favored Madrid as a strong candidate for the title, but the opportunities for other teams like Barcelona remained open.

This is not about on paper, this is what Real Madrid can do and we can't use this to judge the performance of the team, the quad is incomplete and some of them weren't started. Mbape wasn't there, in fact the 3 anticipated forward weren't there. Only Modric was available as main midfielder, and also the Rudiger is the usual defender that was started yesterday which is why we can't we used this game to compare.

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August 04, 2024, 08:19:32 PM
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Congratulations to Barcelona who were able to beat Real Madrid in this friendly match but I think this is Barcelona's last chance to beat Real Madrid because I'm sure when the season starts Real Madrid will not give Barcelona a chance to beat them, Real Madrid clearly lost because they didn't use their main players just like in Real Madrid's previous match when they were defeated by AC Milan and couldn't create any chances at all.

By the way Pau Victor's second debut at Barcelona seems quite good he was able to score a goal when meeting two giants like Manchester City in the previous Friendly match and now against Real Madrid he was able to score 2 goals and finally brought victory I think Hansi Flick is quite clever at seeing the abilities of players from his academy he will be a valuable asset for Barcelona in the future.

Good job on your predictions there, I find it more difficult to predict the outcome of friendly matches compared to official matches.  Well, I should correct you about saying it is a chance for Barcelona to beat them in such a match, while it is a friendly game between them to analyze their players in many ways, a chance to discover talented young players and fix their mistakes before the start of LaLiga.
I have watched the first minutes of the match, honestly it is also hard to follow such a match since it is friendly and the competition between them are very low, probably some young players trying to show themselves for more chances to play in first team. However, the outcome of this match only matters for the gamblers and bettors in first place.

In conclusion, the coaches here benefiting from these matches before the starts of all leagues, Barcelona budget didn’t allow them to bring expensive player, but it doesn’t mean they won’t have a chance to show off this season, what matters more is the team combined, we have seen Girona last season.

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August 04, 2024, 08:38:09 PM
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I agree with you. I think it is impossible for a team like Real Madrid to play their best squad in a pre-season match. As far as I remember Barcelona also managed to win against Real Madrid in the previous season. Even though this was El Classico, this match did not give anything. Both teams also played a lot of their young players. I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. They really have a phenomenal team. I think it will be very difficult to stop the dominance of Mbappe, Vinicius and Bellingham.
If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
In my opinion, Barcelona should not get too confident/relaxed because they defeated Madrid. It was a slight win considering the level of players Madrid featured in the match, also not denying the fact that Barcelona are getting up on their game which is a nice improvement that will definitely take them far in their leagues.Madrid is just the threat, people say having too many good players may reduce the teams results but then i doubt not in the case of Madrid.

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August 04, 2024, 08:42:08 PM
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Real Madrid have named their starting line-up with Arda, Diaz and Endrick all returning to face Barcelona in pre-season. Vini and Rodrygo are on the bench as substitutes. Ancelotti attacking line-up is the same as against AC Milan and I expect Madrid to be better than the last game. Hopefully Endrick and Arda can build a solid partnership to create chances because we haven’t been happy with what they’ve shown so far. Brahim Diaz is more of an adaptable player because he is very dependent on the situation of his teammates up front.

It was clear that Real Madrid would not win, because Acelotti uses the friendlies to try out different tactics and players. In La Liga, when the season starts, Barca will have no chance against Real this year. The top players are always missing from the friendlies, but that makes sense to me.

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August 04, 2024, 08:44:56 PM
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I agree with you. I think it is impossible for a team like Real Madrid to play their best squad in a pre-season match. As far as I remember Barcelona also managed to win against Real Madrid in the previous season. Even though this was El Classico, this match did not give anything. Both teams also played a lot of their young players. I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. They really have a phenomenal team. I think it will be very difficult to stop the dominance of Mbappe, Vinicius and Bellingham.
If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
Real Madrid is not just the strongest in Laliga but in Europe and European competitions are the strongest because that is where we get the best clubs all over the world. It will be impossible for Barcelona to improve the performance of their team up to Real Madrid because money is what is used to strengthen a club and not by dreaming. Financial difficulties is a major problem to Barcelona and that must be tackled first before it gets out of hands.

Real Madrid don't bother much about Laliga because their main focus is on UCL and that is where the money is. This was why they were desperately in need to Mbapoe to make sure he is with them and that will enable the club have not to have any barrier of winning their matches next season because he will be scoring goals upon goals.

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August 04, 2024, 09:26:39 PM
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Although winning Barcelona should not be satisfied with this result, because if I am not mistaken they also succeeded in defeating Real Madrid in the preseason match last season, but when they were in the competition they actually still lost in competing with Real Madrid. What caught my attention was when we could see many young players playing in this match. This will be a new era that many young players will appear and shine in my opinion, that is a good thing because it will give birth to a new star in the world of football.

I agree with you. I think it is impossible for a team like Real Madrid to play their best squad in a pre-season match. As far as I remember Barcelona also managed to win against Real Madrid in the previous season. Even though this was El Classico, this match did not give anything. Both teams also played a lot of their young players. I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. They really have a phenomenal team. I think it will be very difficult to stop the dominance of Mbappe, Vinicius and Bellingham.
This is just a trial and pre-season matches like this even though for el clasico which is indeed full of prestige but in the end it will not have any impact as a consideration in the new season.
If I remember correctly in the previous pre-season also Madrid and Barcelona got a draw but when the season started the comparison was very pronounced where Madrid's dominance was unstoppable so I think this is not a reference even though Madrid lost and Barcelona won does not mean Barcelona can exceed Madrid and vice versa in this case because yesterday's match was a trial and it was well maximized by these two clubs to provide opportunities for some young players to be creative on the field.

Pau Victor, Fort and Vaye are all worthy of Flick's consideration in the light of yesterday's game and of course Arda at Madrid is also a revelation which is a plus for them to be given more opportunities next season in the competition.

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August 04, 2024, 09:44:48 PM
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Real Madrid has many young and talented players who can make good and shining days for this team. Other than players Endrick and Arda Guler they have some other players and now it seems the other player of Real Madrid we are going to see in this team is Mario Martín.
Even in the conference before the game with AC Milan Ancelotti mentioned his name and said his name with other players of Real Madrid.

Matin has been mentioned as one of the players ancelotti has picked to be in his squad but may not be in his first 11 as the first 11 has been listed already long before now and just like usual there are going to be firm standby players should the need arise. Endrick and Guler are key players who are definitely going to be of great importance to Madrid as they are still very young yet talented aswell, they have had a good performance in past season and I believe this season they wouldn't do any less but let's be optimistic they do even better as the opportunity comes to them.

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August 04, 2024, 09:56:03 PM
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Congratulations to Barcelona who were able to beat Real Madrid in this friendly match but I think this is Barcelona's last chance to beat Real Madrid because I'm sure when the season starts Real Madrid will not give Barcelona a chance to beat them, Real Madrid clearly lost because they didn't use their main players just like in Real Madrid's previous match when they were defeated by AC Milan and couldn't create any chances at all.

By the way Pau Victor's second debut at Barcelona seems quite good he was able to score a goal when meeting two giants like Manchester City in the previous Friendly match and now against Real Madrid he was able to score 2 goals and finally brought victory I think Hansi Flick is quite clever at seeing the abilities of players from his academy he will be a valuable asset for Barcelona in the future.
The situation is still uncertain because we can't even see the performance of Barcelona and Madrid because their official matches are still a few weeks away so although the hope is as you said that Madrid will continue to be a good club in terms of performance just like last season but I don't think it's too good to feel proud of the current state of the squad because Barcelona could also improve with a new coach even in a difficult situation like this.

Pau Victor could be a good option for Barcelona especially as he's a young player, it's just that with the winger position I think it would be a bit difficult in terms of competition. There are still Lamine Yamal and Raphinha there so in this case do not let Flick ignore the good potential of Pau Victor so that the same situation as Victor Roque is repeated this season.
There are some good young talents at Barcelona but sometimes the lack of playing time makes them sometimes prefer to leave the club in the end or stay with the difficult situation of always decorating the bench.

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August 04, 2024, 10:11:50 PM
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Congratulations to Barcelona who were able to beat Real Madrid in this friendly match but I think this is Barcelona's last chance to beat Real Madrid because I'm sure when the season starts Real Madrid will not give Barcelona a chance to beat them, Real Madrid clearly lost because they didn't use their main players just like in Real Madrid's previous match when they were defeated by AC Milan and couldn't create any chances at all.

By the way Pau Victor's second debut at Barcelona seems quite good he was able to score a goal when meeting two giants like Manchester City in the previous Friendly match and now against Real Madrid he was able to score 2 goals and finally brought victory I think Hansi Flick is quite clever at seeing the abilities of players from his academy he will be a valuable asset for Barcelona in the future.
Congratulations to Barcelona? Did they lift a trophy when they beat Real Madrid? I don't think so because this is mainly a friendly game and there's absolutely nothing to be surprisedly about. Carlo Ancelotti is testing his new style of game play with the new players he has in the team, so comprehending the whole squad wouldn't be a problem for Ancelotti while Barcelona have nice time thrashing their opponents.
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August 04, 2024, 10:18:23 PM
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It was only a friendly yes but it was still nice to watch an El Clasico though.  Grin  But of course we can't take this match that serious. The teams didn't even start with their usual lineups completely. It was a chance for some young players to show their skills to their coaches as well. I liked especially Arda Güler among them. He made a really nice assist. His ball control and finish was also great but the goal was disallowed due to offside.

Still nice to see him ready for new season already. Ancelotti said he could be one of the bests of his role in the future if he adapts to play as a central midfielder. I wonder what Arda thinks of it.
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I agree with you. I think it is impossible for a team like Real Madrid to play their best squad in a pre-season match. As far as I remember Barcelona also managed to win against Real Madrid in the previous season. Even though this was El Classico, this match did not give anything. Both teams also played a lot of their young players. I still favor Real Madrid to be the champion this season. They really have a phenomenal team. I think it will be very difficult to stop the dominance of Mbappe, Vinicius and Bellingham.
If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
In my opinion, Barcelona should not get too confident/relaxed because they defeated Madrid. It was a slight win considering the level of players Madrid featured in the match, also not denying the fact that Barcelona are getting up on their game which is a nice improvement that will definitely take them far in their leagues.Madrid is just the threat, people say having too many good players may reduce the teams results but then i doubt not in the case of Madrid.
There are concerns about the difficulty of managing a star-studded team, there are many egos that must be united, this reminds us all of Real Madrid failure in the first Los Galagticos era. However, on the contrary, a sense of optimism arises when looking at Ancelotti, based on his reputation in managing a number of elite European clubs, we will conclude that Ancelotti has the potential to lead Real Madrid to success again next season. The defeat to Barcelona in the pre-season tour is not a benchmark, because there is no pressure to get maximum results there. Barcelona do need to win to get more support, because the club situation is in a financial crisis. In my opinion, the performance and consistency of a team will be seen when they play in official matches, let's just wait and see how they will start the next season's campaign which will roll soon.

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August 04, 2024, 10:23:07 PM
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If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
Of course, only Barcelona continues to show quite fierce competition for Real Madrid in the race for the Laliga title. There is no other team that stands out enough in terms of the depth of their strength when compared to the top two teams that always grace every team season. There was also Girona last season which had a positive effect on their progress but unfortunately they also ended the season below Barcelona.
The strength of the team will show the public that they are truly focused on achieving their target of becoming champions so that every transfer window the two teams in the top flight are always busier in recruiting players compared to other teams.

This season the competition will also be fiercer in Laliga because Mbappe joining Real Madrid will certainly make them stronger in terms of their strength.  Also in terms of coach Ancelotti is very experienced in bringing teams to win trophies so Los Blancos will be very favorites to win trophies this season.

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August 04, 2024, 10:50:19 PM
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If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
Indeed, if you look at it, so far, Barcelona has only signed 1 player, Paul Victor from Girona with a price that is indeed quite small, namely € 2.70m. While some new players are newcomers from their academy. It is indeed not easy for Barcelona to bring in players who suit their wishes, once again, it is purely because of their very limited budget and their debts which are still a lot.

But fortunately, Barcelona still has several players who are indeed good and have the potential for their final development. One of the most brilliant at the moment is Lamine Yamal. And even though Lewandowski's performance is currently not as good as before, at least he can still strengthen the squad quite well this season.

However, if compared to the composition of the Real Madrid squad, they do have differences, so many parties say that Real Madrid will still be the winner of the league. But that doesn't mean that the others are bad and can't take over Real Madrid's position, it's not like that. It's just that with the current conditions, it's quite difficult. Although in the pre-season match yesterday Barcelona was able to excel over Real Madrid and win over several big clubs. but that doesn't mean that Barcelona is better than Real Madrid.

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August 04, 2024, 10:56:53 PM
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If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
Of course, only Barcelona continues to show quite fierce competition for Real Madrid in the race for the Laliga title. There is no other team that stands out enough in terms of the depth of their strength when compared to the top two teams that always grace every team season. There was also Girona last season which had a positive effect on their progress but unfortunately they also ended the season below Barcelona.
The strength of the team will show the public that they are truly focused on achieving their target of becoming champions so that every transfer window the two teams in the top flight are always busier in recruiting players compared to other teams.

This season the competition will also be fiercer in Laliga because Mbappe joining Real Madrid will certainly make them stronger in terms of their strength.  Also in terms of coach Ancelotti is very experienced in bringing teams to win trophies so Los Blancos will be very favorites to win trophies this season.

Yes, I think a strong football team needs to rely on 2 factors: 1 is the team player and 2 is who is the head coach of the team. we can't judge a team based on their players alone. As we have seen PSG used to have top stars, but their performance looked quite bad. Recently, a typical example is the English national team, a team with all the top stars, but they were defeated by a young team like Spain.

Real Madrid and Barcelona are the two top teams in the Laliga tournament, they always create a two-horse race that makes fans passionate. But now everything is so different when Real Madrid is getting stronger and stronger, while Barcelona is becoming weak. We certainly won't see any more tight races in this tournament, maybe Real Madrid will dominate this tournament for a long time. I hope this tournament in the future will not be as boring as Ligue 1 and Bundesliga.

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If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
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August 04, 2024, 11:23:42 PM
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If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
No one will argue that the squad of Real Madrid is getting stronger. We take a look on the quality of Real Madrid players, they have more quality players now. With 2 new top strikers (Mbappe and Endrick), Real Madrid is expected to have better performance for the next season. However, it is true that there are many factors to determine their performance, it is not only about the quality of the players. If Ancelotti can't choose a proper strategy and fail to build the mentality of the players, Real Madrid performance may be beyond our expectation. Having many top players in the squad sometimes has a certain challenge, it is about the ego of the players. This makes them to play more individually and it will be difficult to order them playing as a solid teamwork. But I still believe that Ancelotti always knows how to deal with this possible problem.

I think both Barcelona and Atletico Madrid still can compete with Real Madrid. They are also reshaping their squads, it is very possible that they may play better with the new squads. Atletico Madrid has a new striker (Alexander Sørloth), the striker with the second highest number of goals last season. This can boost the performance of Atletico Madrid. Meanwhile Barcelona, they will be always the real competitor of Real Madrid. Even if they are in financial crisis, they still have good squad. Yamal is the most shining player in Barcelona now. This player can be one of the factors of better performance of Barcelona in the new season.



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August 04, 2024, 11:30:20 PM
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If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.
I wouldn't want to give the impression that Real Madrid is unbeatable or can't be matched by any of the Spanish clubs at the moment because you just can't say never in football but if you ask me, I don't think the current Barcelona squad has all it takes to match Real Madrid's strength. Winning Real Madrid in a preseason friendly game doesn't mean that Barcelona is now a complete squad because the game wasn't a competitive one so  you don't expect Real Madrid players to be at their best. Considering the current Real Madrid team, the quality and depth of squad, I don't think there's any Spanish club at the moment that can match Real Madrid's strength.
I will not underestimate Barcelona but does Barcelona squad have quality players like Madrid? Of course not. We all know who are the starting players for Madrid when this season has started and we all know who is the current Madrid coach who can always provide satisfactory results in every season. Maybe Barcelona can put up a fight a few times in La Liga matches but only in certain moments such as when Madrid is busy chasing the UCL match and Barcelona takes the opportunity to beat Madrid. But still Ancelotti will not let Barcelona win the La Liga title this season.

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August 04, 2024, 11:45:02 PM
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I will not underestimate Barcelona but does Barcelona squad have quality players like Madrid? Of course not. We all know who are the starting players for Madrid when this season has started and we all know who is the current Madrid coach who can always provide satisfactory results in every season. Maybe Barcelona can put up a fight a few times in La Liga matches but only in certain moments such as when Madrid is busy chasing the UCL match and Barcelona takes the opportunity to beat Madrid. But still Ancelotti will not let Barcelona win the La Liga title this season.

No, Real Madrid is a team that can play in two different competitions and be successful in them. You don’t need to worry yourself too much that they can’t win the two major trophies in the competition they’ll be participating in. The UEFA Champions League is a competition we all know Real Madrid does not joke with and at the same time wining the La Liga will give them another joy of feeling great, being called the best team and the king of champions league. Barcelona still looks like a mediocre team to them even in the next season, so if they really want to defeat Real Madrid, they’ll have to try more because it won’t be an easy task for them next season.

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I will not underestimate Barcelona but does Barcelona squad have quality players like Madrid? Of course not. We all know who are the starting players for Madrid when this season has started and we all know who is the current Madrid coach who can always provide satisfactory results in every season. Maybe Barcelona can put up a fight a few times in La Liga matches but only in certain moments such as when Madrid is busy chasing the UCL match and Barcelona takes the opportunity to beat Madrid. But still Ancelotti will not let Barcelona win the La Liga title this season.
Barca has it's own squad but mostly filled with young players from academ unlike Real Madrid that has some new bought completely strong players which Is no doubt that they can take on any team with no fear.on ther other hand Barcelona has some previous academy players who are making a good performance... thus,they have more now , alsothey had back some loaned out players which are now back (like Torre).
Can they really take on their major opponent?? We can't say but they still have a strong squad (some with injuries which are still recovering  like Pedri and Gavi the two Golden boys)and i think De jong should.alsi be back for their games ... Pedri is good but they aren't letting him test with injuries which is making him loose form. At the end ,we hope for a exciting season ahead Cool



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August 05, 2024, 01:18:25 AM
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It was only a friendly yes but it was still nice to watch an El Clasico though.  Grin  But of course we can't take this match that serious. The teams didn't even start with their usual lineups completely. It was a chance for some young players to show their skills to their coaches as well. I liked especially Arda Güler among them. He made a really nice assist. His ball control and finish was also great but the goal was disallowed due to offside.

This El Clasico can't be taken as seriously as when they met in the domestic league & UCL, but we also can't consider this match as unimportant match.

The 3 goals scored in this match didn't come from regular players, they were players from the second squad of each team, Nico Paz & Pau Victor. IDK much about Nico Paz, but Pau Victor is a potential player, Barcelona were lucky to get him from Girona.

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