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Legit crypto gambling sites usually enforce KYC only when they detect certain abnormalities related to the user. Scam sites tend to enforce them as an excuse in order to prevent their customers from withdrawing their funds successfully. Also, crypto casinos just like FIAT casinos enforce wagering requirements in order to prevent money laundering based on what I observed. this has been a big problem, the fact that most casinos from the start do not ask all customers to do KYC open the way for serious problems at the time of withdrawal or when the customer earns a lot of money because the argument most of the time is: "many accounts that are against TOS" then would spend a lot of time to solve the problem. But if they implemented KYC it would greatly reduce this problem, I know that many people like privacy, but looking at the current scenario I think that only KYC can solve the current problem IMO, if all online casinos implemented, and made it as mandatory, there will be lots of users that will not play anymore. Currently we do have lots of people who value their anonymity for their own security and protection. But this thing is still debatable, but I prefer not having any KYC at all. Maybe for just some people that really seems suspicious.
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It would be the death of crypto casinos IMO if they implement a strict KYC policy. At the moment, It's nice when only members who made big deposits/withdrawals get KYC'ed. Small-time gamblers don't need KYC, and it would be a waste of time. If crypto casinos doing the same KYC policy as the mainstream fiat casinos, I'd rather play on the latter. this has been a big problem, the fact that most casinos from the start do not ask all customers to do KYC open the way for serious problems at the time of withdrawal or when the customer earns a lot of money because the argument most of the time is: "many accounts that are against TOS" then would spend a lot of time to solve the problem. But if they implemented KYC it would greatly reduce this problem, I know that many people like privacy, but looking at the current scenario I think that only KYC can solve the current problem
True, and it can be solved without forcing KYC. For example, don't create promotions that encourage multi-accounting. If there is no incentive to do multi-accounting, it won't be a problem, and KYC won't be necessary.
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Well, until now Roobet has successfully run crypto casino even though there were many competitors before so if they can at the casino why not for the sportsbook Apart from promotion there must be other ways to attract players, somehow they have to think about it.
Well, that concept has not been successful on competitors. I prefer to remember Roobet as a single casino rather than a mixed gambling platform. The Bitsler and Stake have not successfully achieved the goal as crypto gambling bookies, Roobet will have a higher failure rate too, IMHO. Better to focus on development as a casino. The crypto industry continues to grow and more people know about crypto business opportunities are also increasingly open, especially for crypto casinos Roobet only needs to target new people in the crypto world so this way they have a chance to grow IMO BTW we continue to talk about the sportsbook here, is there any indication the roobet opened it? Well, I agree about exponential growth and increasing interest by investors vs gamblers but it is not going to be beneficial for Roobet team to handle both in the single platform. I know Roobet as the crypto casino and when I wanna place a bet on a sports event another bookie comes to my mind. Overall, it is better to bring all focus to the casino side rather than dividing it, IMHO. It would be the death of crypto casinos IMO if they implement a strict KYC policy. At the moment, It's nice when only members who made big deposits/withdrawals get KYC'ed. Small-time gamblers don't need KYC, and it would be a waste of time.
Agree with both hands, it is the end of crypto casinos if the massive KYC verification gonna hit this business model. The big guys don't care about the small fishes and they will always find alternatives to place their bets. The small gamblers will not even care about the KYC if the total amount is higher than $1000 for verifying the gambling account.
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Many players in the crypto gambling world prefer to stay anonym with gambling. That is why we use bitcoins and other currency for. Most users, on the other hands, are familiar with the KYC. I do not know the rates and population about which group has problems and which one has not, maybe it is interesting to start a poll about this.
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March 08, 2021, 09:00:21 PM |
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Many players in the crypto gambling world prefer to stay anonym with gambling. That is why we use bitcoins and other currency for. Most users, on the other hands, are familiar with the KYC. I do not know the rates and population about which group has problems and which one has not, maybe it is interesting to start a poll about this.
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Only people on the forum could give their experience. Not only for the site, but in general it would be an interesting topic to discuss about. Not sure if this belongs in this topic, since it is not only relevant for Roobet.com Roobet.com also has to follow the license from their jurisdiction of course.
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this has been a big problem, the fact that most casinos from the start do not ask all customers to do KYC open the way for serious problems at the time of withdrawal or when the customer earns a lot of money because the argument most of the time is: "many accounts that are against TOS" then would spend a lot of time to solve the problem. But if they implemented KYC it would greatly reduce this problem, I know that many people like privacy, but looking at the current scenario I think that only KYC can solve the current problem
Many gambling sites don't allow users to create and own multiple accounts. On Roobet, the gambling site allows one person to have mulitple accounts but it is not for cheating. If you are not sure you already created one account on Roobet long time in the past, you can ask the support team to check it for you. You can also contact support if you want to create your additional account. If you get response and acceptance from the support team, you can create legit additional accounts. It is obviously your additional accounts can not be used to cheat the gambling site. The problems from fake scam accusations on gambling sites come from cheaters who broke rules and got punishments with account restrictions or frozen, locked, hold funds. They are not innocent victims. You warrant not to create more than one user account. You may create additional accounts when you inform the support regarding your additional accounts so they may be linked together and have jointed KYC and AML verification and checks. ... If you are unsure if you already registered an account, you may ask the Roobet support team for confirmation or send a second report. The company warrants to not ban or restrict any user for having multiple accounts, as long as the user complies with the KYC-AML policy, does not violate the terms in any other way, or practices in illicit activities banned by the law of the country.
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March 09, 2021, 06:55:52 AM |
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Many players in the crypto gambling world prefer to stay anonym with gambling. That is why we use bitcoins and other currency for. Most users, on the other hands, are familiar with the KYC. I do not know the rates and population about which group has problems and which one has not, maybe it is interesting to start a poll about this.
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Younger generation are more towards privacy over the convenience for sure because even successful old people doesn't get the after effects of giving KYC so they always choose to play with fiat but still this is just my opinion and talking generally so having a poll related to this may give better insights.
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March 09, 2021, 09:39:36 AM |
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Younger generation are more towards privacy over the convenience for sure because even successful old people doesn't get the after effects of giving KYC so they always choose to play with fiat but still this is just my opinion and talking generally so having a poll related to this may give better insights.
Most people will prefer no KYC process of course with that poll and that's not surprising to see, well, I guess most people here are younger ones, just some wild guess. It will be alright if KYC wasn't that strict for some gambling sites but it will be most prefer if people will just follow what rules and regulations the gambling site is implemented. If they restrict your country then don't play, if they don't allow multiple accounts then don't do so, if VPN isn't allowed then don't, some cases of sites asking KYC was more of those things.
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Many discussions are there about the KYC. There is not really a special guideline where to and where not to use this KYC.
It depends a lot on the jurisdiction, and which bookmaker you want to use. There are bookmakers who always ask KYC, and some of them never do.
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March 09, 2021, 11:08:23 AM |
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Younger generation are more towards privacy over the convenience for sure because even successful old people doesn't get the after effects of giving KYC so they always choose to play with fiat but still this is just my opinion and talking generally so having a poll related to this may give better insights.
Most people will prefer no KYC process of course with that poll and that's not surprising to see, well, I guess most people here are younger ones, just some wild guess. It will be alright if KYC wasn't that strict for some gambling sites but it will be most prefer if people will just follow what rules and regulations the gambling site is implemented. If they restrict your country then don't play, if they don't allow multiple accounts then don't do so, if VPN isn't allowed then don't, some cases of sites asking KYC was more of those things. I guess this matter on what casino they are on since if the reputable one like roobet will ask that maybe that's not a big deal to comply especially if they want to ask certain verification to know if our account is intact to us especially if we want to withdraw a huge amount or they detect something strange happening.
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March 09, 2021, 11:33:29 AM |
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Younger generation are more towards privacy over the convenience for sure because even successful old people doesn't get the after effects of giving KYC so they always choose to play with fiat but still this is just my opinion and talking generally so having a poll related to this may give better insights.
Most people will prefer no KYC process of course with that poll and that's not surprising to see, well, I guess most people here are younger ones, just some wild guess. It will be alright if KYC wasn't that strict for some gambling sites but it will be most prefer if people will just follow what rules and regulations the gambling site is implemented. If they restrict your country then don't play, if they don't allow multiple accounts then don't do so, if VPN isn't allowed then don't, some cases of sites asking KYC was more of those things. Each gambling site may ask your KYC at any time but as you said, it will unlikely to happen as long as you are following their Terms of Service do everyone don't forget to read their TOS when registering to avoid this kind if situation in the future.
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Honestly I don't get understand what you are standing for. I thought you wanted to implement KYCs on online casinos, but here you are opposing the idea of yours. Casinos has their way figuring suspicious acts on their site, and I'm sure they also are against money laundering. Nonetheless, I don't prefer to undergo KYCs on any online platform such as exchanges and casinos.
I would say that KYC should be a must for exchanges but not for casinos, casino is not something legal in many nations so if we want to gamble on these websites we hide our information and if we are asked KYC that means we can't offer it, since if we do that it would mean that we are accepting doing something illegal. There are people who live in nations that are not against any of this, but that's just a limited number of nations, there are so many places that doesn't allow online crypto gambling and even online fiat gambling, which is why I believe there needs to be some sort of situation where KYC is totally got rid of, wherever that casino needs to be open, they should be open there and let everyone gamble however they want without KYC, find another method of suspicious acts to be resolved because this method is putting me in danger with my law enforcement, even if I did everything right for the casino.
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OK guys, I think it is more than enough to talk about KYC in general. Lets talk about more related to roobet current updates, promotions, big wins, etc. Here we go another raffle with $50k prizepool for 10 winners Play and earn your tickets to get the chance to win one of the $5,000
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Are there any plans for Roobet to add option for Sports betting like some other crypto casinos have? I am sure that would be nice to have for St. Patricks day, maybe not this year but why not in future have more players = more profit = more bitcoins
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Younger generation are more towards privacy over the convenience for sure because even successful old people doesn't get the after effects of giving KYC so they always choose to play with fiat but still this is just my opinion and talking generally so having a poll related to this may give better insights.
Younger generations are more aware of why our data is getting collected and what can be done with it, that is the difference. Old people do care about "privacy" as in writing on their facebook walls "I do not allow facebook to use my data ....." stuff but writing on their facebook wall means nothing at all, they do not realize that, then they keep writing and sharing like crazy. Younger generation on the other hand share stuff on instagram and so forth, share their tiktok videos, but the reality is that they are aware of whats being stolen and what it is used for, we all remember that Cambridge Analytica situation and we know how social media could turn to be a political weapon, you can convince enough of your followers to be mad on social media and they will all both support everyone of your party members no matter what they do and be against other party no matter what they do, that social media weapon could be very dangerous and that's what younger generation is trying to refrain from.
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March 10, 2021, 11:02:00 AM |
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Younger generation are more towards privacy over the convenience for sure because even successful old people doesn't get the after effects of giving KYC so they always choose to play with fiat but still this is just my opinion and talking generally so having a poll related to this may give better insights.
Younger generations are more aware of why our data is getting collected and what can be done with it, that is the difference. Old people do care about "privacy" as in writing on their facebook walls "I do not allow facebook to use my data ....." stuff but writing on their facebook wall means nothing at all, they do not realize that, then they keep writing and sharing like crazy. Younger generation on the other hand share stuff on instagram and so forth, share their tiktok videos, but the reality is that they are aware of whats being stolen and what it is used for, we all remember that Cambridge Analytica situation and we know how social media could turn to be a political weapon, you can convince enough of your followers to be mad on social media and they will all both support everyone of your party members no matter what they do and be against other party no matter what they do, that social media weapon could be very dangerous and that's what younger generation is trying to refrain from. Young people are living more compared to the ration of old people that is the reason why they aware of importance of privacy but it doesn't mean every young person knows it and if we take the stats in number the younger generation is giving more data to someone with or without their knowledge with social media and tiktok videos.
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March 10, 2021, 11:37:01 AM |
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Are there any plans for Roobet to add option for Sports betting like some other crypto casinos have? I am sure that would be nice to have for St. Patricks day, maybe not this year but why not in future have more players = more profit = more bitcoins Many have already mentioned, requested, asked that if there will also be sports betting here in Roobet. I don't think it's in their plan yet because just like others here say it's just focused now on their current offering games, on consistent promotions and events, it's enough for them right now. But you're right, it would be nice if they also had that, nothing is impossible, we know in the future they will add it to have new players who love to bet on sports.
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March 10, 2021, 12:04:30 PM |
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Are there any plans for Roobet to add option for Sports betting like some other crypto casinos have? I am sure that would be nice to have for St. Patricks day, maybe not this year but why not in future have more players = more profit = more bitcoins Many have already mentioned, requested, asked that if there will also be sports betting here in Roobet. I don't think it's in their plan yet because just like others here say it's just focused now on their current offering games, on consistent promotions and events, it's enough for them right now. But you're right, it would be nice if they also had that, nothing is impossible, we know in the future they will add it to have new players who love to bet on sports. This discussion will continue as the other site adopt the sportsbook feature in their own casino but in roobet I think they are now in focus on their existing features which I think good for now since they can create more better promotion than spending time on creating sportsbook which it cost time and money for them, although we know they can afford it but for sure they look first the wants of people about that.
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Joca97
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March 10, 2021, 11:19:23 PM |
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@Roobet, any chance you can add some games to Serbia? Most of the game you already have are available in Serbian sportsbooks and when i try on roobet it wont let me enter them at all. Any updates on this fix?
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March 11, 2021, 09:14:14 AM |
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This discussion will continue as the other site adopt the sportsbook feature in their own casino but in roobet I think they are now in focus on their existing features which I think good for now since they can create more better promotion than spending time on creating sportsbook which it cost time and money for them, although we know they can afford it but for sure they look first the wants of people about that. That's right. They have been long-existing in the market, they are very successful already even without adding sport-betting. To add, if they will add sportbook to their site, they will be needing a lot of time, effort, and money to maintain it. It's a great feature but it requires alot from roobet team. Even so, let us not disregard the possibiltiy that they would add it on the future.
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