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I also think that kyc verification is very important think for a casino to decrease cheater activity and scamer . But by kyc many casino were stealing users data and getting profit by selling data . I also think kyc verification somewhat undermines the original purpose of cryptocurrency and, I also think it also decrease the users privacy. unfortunately kyc is almost useless since people can find ways to fake it, there's people who buy data in the darknet and others who pay someone else to submit documents and photo verification instead of them.
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August 05, 2022, 06:42:24 PM |
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unfortunately kyc is almost useless since people can find ways to fake it, there's people who buy data in the darknet and others who pay someone else to submit documents and photo verification instead of them.
Although users have to complete KYC to verify real users, some anti-KYC users take advantage of black market services to purchase identity documents and photo verification to complete KYC. So in my opinion the verification feature should be improved such as live face verification or other live verification to reduce the use of fake identities.
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August 05, 2022, 06:49:17 PM |
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I also think that kyc verification is very important think for a casino to decrease cheater activity and scamer . But by kyc many casino were stealing users data and getting profit by selling data . I also think kyc verification somewhat undermines the original purpose of cryptocurrency and, I also think it also decrease the users privacy.
Opinions about KYC are very pro and con as most users will not agree to verify KYC due to alleged abuse by the casino, but casinos need KYC to prevent money laundering, crime and other factors. However, if you provide KYC online casinos must consider the rating and reputation so that the privacy factor of your identity can be guaranteed by the casino. From my understanding KYC should be important to all the platform but i noticed that some people do not value the way some platforms is Making KYC important. But I'm not understanding why some players do not value a gamblling platforms that makes a KYC verification a necessity to any of their players. But from my knowledge i support kyc platform believe with the KYC verification i think that your funds and whatever you have to particular website that have KYC is scured
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August 05, 2022, 08:34:28 PM |
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I also think that kyc verification is very important think for a casino to decrease cheater activity and scamer . But by kyc many casino were stealing users data and getting profit by selling data . I also think kyc verification somewhat undermines the original purpose of cryptocurrency and, I also think it also decrease the users privacy.
Opinions about KYC are very pro and con as most users will not agree to verify KYC due to alleged abuse by the casino, but casinos need KYC to prevent money laundering, crime and other factors. However, if you provide KYC online casinos must consider the rating and reputation so that the privacy factor of your identity can be guaranteed by the casino. From my understanding KYC should be important to all the platform but i noticed that some people do not value the way some platforms is Making KYC important. But I'm not understanding why some players do not value a gamblling platforms that makes a KYC verification a necessity to any of their players. But from my knowledge i support kyc platform believe with the KYC verification i think that your funds and whatever you have to particular website that have KYC is scured there will be positive and negative sides, not everyone likes platforms that require kyc, of course it will be very complicated & and also some don't want to give their data to gambling websites because some state rules are strictly prohibited in gambling, maybe not completely security just to avoid multiple accounts correct me if i'm wrong
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August 05, 2022, 08:59:03 PM |
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there will be positive and negative sides, not everyone likes platforms that require kyc, of course it will be very complicated & and also some don't want to give their data to gambling websites because some state rules are strictly prohibited in gambling, maybe not completely security just to avoid multiple accounts correct me if i'm wrong
There’s a good reason why KYC is being imposed, this is to avoid fraud and of course to prevent any abuse in the site. The gambling site is just following the regulations, and they really have no choice or else their license will be compromise. KYC is still a big issue in crypto world and with Roobet, it looks like many can’t still move on and talks about this issue all over again.
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August 05, 2022, 09:09:15 PM |
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there will be positive and negative sides, not everyone likes platforms that require kyc, of course it will be very complicated & and also some don't want to give their data to gambling websites because some state rules are strictly prohibited in gambling, maybe not completely security just to avoid multiple accounts correct me if i'm wrong
There’s a good reason why KYC is being imposed, this is to avoid fraud and of course to prevent any abuse in the site. The gambling site is just following the regulations, and they really have no choice or else their license will be compromise. KYC is still a big issue in crypto world and with Roobet, it looks like many can’t still move on and talks about this issue all over again. Roobet implement KYC knowing that many gamblers will surely not agree with this decision, and yes this is their way to follow the regulation and I’m wondering why many are still complaining when in fact its been years now since the KYC happened in Roobet. This site still considered as one of the best crypto gambling site, they offer a lot of promotions and many gamblers love this site, KYC might the only reason why they wont try Roobet but for sure they will still try to participate on the promotions because its really rewarding.
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August 05, 2022, 10:59:28 PM |
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there will be positive and negative sides, not everyone likes platforms that require kyc, of course it will be very complicated & and also some don't want to give their data to gambling websites because some state rules are strictly prohibited in gambling, maybe not completely security just to avoid multiple accounts correct me if i'm wrong
There’s a good reason why KYC is being imposed, this is to avoid fraud and of course to prevent any abuse in the site. The gambling site is just following the regulations, and they really have no choice or else their license will be compromise. KYC is still a big issue in crypto world and with Roobet, it looks like many can’t still move on and talks about this issue all over again. Roobet implement KYC knowing that many gamblers will surely not agree with this decision, and yes this is their way to follow the regulation and I’m wondering why many are still complaining when in fact its been years now since the KYC happened in Roobet. This site still considered as one of the best crypto gambling site, they offer a lot of promotions and many gamblers love this site, KYC might the only reason why they wont try Roobet but for sure they will still try to participate on the promotions because its really rewarding. Lots have shocked but it was claimed that only a few had left after Roobet did make out such changes.Its true that we never really that prefer on having KYC because crypto market shouldnt really be that way but since platforms are regulated then it would be understandable that they would really be having that kind of possible changes which is something that wont really be surprising. Even into those current sites or platforms we do have today then this is something that could potentially happen in near future.
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August 06, 2022, 07:35:00 AM |
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Lots have shocked but it was claimed that only a few had left after Roobet did make out such changes.Its true that we never really that prefer on having KYC because crypto market shouldnt really be that way
Cryptocurrencies itself are decentralized but businesses or insitution are owned by a private entity so we really need to comply to those regulations if they require it on their platform. Criminals will make it a hotspot for their illegal activities if they don't do it. but since platforms are regulated then it would be understandable that they would really be having that kind of possible changes which is something that wont really be surprising.
Even into those current sites or platforms we do have today then this is something that could potentially happen in near future.
Whether we like it or not, these KYC's are really neccessary in order to use those platforms comfortably. Businesses need to comply to AMLC which requires the identity of the clients in their business.
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August 06, 2022, 11:18:23 AM |
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I have once done some research about the major reason why KYC was introduced in the casino and the answer is to protect the company from getting in trouble with the law since some people use them as a way to tint their stolen or illicit crypto so I believe casinos are not after users criminal but they are after keeping their record clean with the law.
I think it is very important to have kyc in the casino. If you have kyc say for all no cheater can do any kind of crime. If we do kyc then our account will be safe. If a person commits a crime, if he has done kyc then they will be able to identify him very quickly. It seems that there are many opportunities. No person can commit any crime here. So we all will always use kyc on the account. Yes, the casino needs to keep operating with a good record with the law and also comply with the rules and regulations of their master license holder. I believe in the future when crypto become mainstream of payment all casino that wants to be licensed and also keep operating their business will need to implement the KYC I understand that law is an important aspect of making these decisions, but when there are other places which we all know who complies with the law, and still end up getting this done, we question how much of it is based on the law, and how much of it is about security and making sure roobet is safe? I mean I know one other place which is dealing with literally government to make deals and sponsorships, and they are fine without KYC, so why would Roobet need it for the law, when that other place dealt with the law and came out on top without needing to ask for KYC? If all places were the same we would understand, but some places do not ask for it and law is fine with that.
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August 06, 2022, 12:05:06 PM |
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I also think that kyc verification is very important think for a casino to decrease cheater activity and scamer . But by kyc many casino were stealing users data and getting profit by selling data . I also think kyc verification somewhat undermines the original purpose of cryptocurrency and, I also think it also decrease the users privacy. unfortunately kyc is almost useless since people can find ways to fake it, there's people who buy data in the darknet and others who pay someone else to submit documents and photo verification instead of them. Not with live interviews. A higher level of KYC verification involves video calls to know if the person submitting the documents is really the owner. This way your stated strategy will be nullified. As one of the replies here stated, if anyone doesn't want to undergo KYC, he can just look for another Casino that does not require KYC verification, no need to make a big deal out of it.
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August 06, 2022, 01:53:12 PM |
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there will be positive and negative sides, not everyone likes platforms that require kyc, of course it will be very complicated & and also some don't want to give their data to gambling websites because some state rules are strictly prohibited in gambling, maybe not completely security just to avoid multiple accounts correct me if i'm wrong
There’s a good reason why KYC is being imposed, this is to avoid fraud and of course to prevent any abuse in the site. The gambling site is just following the regulations, and they really have no choice or else their license will be compromise. KYC is still a big issue in crypto world and with Roobet, it looks like many can’t still move on and talks about this issue all over again. This is the thing if they want to operate without any problems they have to comply with these AML policies which is why KYC is implemented but many of us wants to remain anonymous in this crypto world keeping our privacy in our hands.So if you are comfortable with KYC norms you can do it but many times it's used against us.
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August 06, 2022, 02:00:05 PM |
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Even if he manages to found a casino that doesn't require KYC, he would still need to do it once he won or wagered some big amounts. Casinos will not just let you withdraw your winnings without verifying your identity, they want to make sure that their user has no criminal records.
Wrong. There are many crypto casinos that allow their gamblers to withdraw big amounts without requiring any form of KYC whatsoever. They ask for KYC only if they detect something suspicious going on or if the casino themselves abuse the rule. If all places were the same we would understand, but some places do not ask for it and law is fine with that.
Exactly. So many people conveniently forget this fact while defending Roobet which is silly if you think about it.
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August 06, 2022, 02:05:57 PM |
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there will be positive and negative sides, not everyone likes platforms that require kyc, of course it will be very complicated & and also some don't want to give their data to gambling websites because some state rules are strictly prohibited in gambling, maybe not completely security just to avoid multiple accounts correct me if i'm wrong
There’s a good reason why KYC is being imposed, this is to avoid fraud and of course to prevent any abuse in the site. The gambling site is just following the regulations, and they really have no choice or else their license will be compromise. KYC is still a big issue in crypto world and with Roobet, it looks like many can’t still move on and talks about this issue all over again. This is the thing if they want to operate without any problems they have to comply with these AML policies which is why KYC is implemented but many of us wants to remain anonymous in this crypto world keeping our privacy in our hands.So if you are comfortable with KYC norms you can do it but many times it's used against us. kyc is still a big problem in the crypto world, which interferes with our personal documents. If we do kyc in scam project then there remains the possibility of our personal documents being sold in black market. so we should careful to do kyc on any crypto website
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August 06, 2022, 02:22:56 PM |
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kyc is still a big problem in the crypto world, which interferes with our personal documents. If we do kyc in scam project then there remains the possibility of our personal documents being sold in black market. so we should careful to do kyc on any crypto website
You're said about KYC in scam project, since you're post in this thread this mean are you want to say Roobet is include as a scam project? I don't think so, there's no active scam accusation against Roobet until now. Actually Roobet only ask a level 1 KYC where you don't need to attach your ID, driving licenses, bills etc, but just a basic information like those centralized exchanges you have used. You're need to write your real name, if you're using alias you'll break their TOS. Personally I'm tired why people keep discussing about KYC, while most people already submit their basic information on Binance.
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August 06, 2022, 06:56:25 PM |
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Even if he manages to found a casino that doesn't require KYC, he would still need to do it once he won or wagered some big amounts. Casinos will not just let you withdraw your winnings without verifying your identity, they want to make sure that their user has no criminal records. If they let you withdraw some huge amounts, they can be liable if you use that money for your bad intentions even if it's not related to the gambling business.
Not all places require a big amount of win for KYC. I mean you could have a million dollars won from somewhere and they would definitely be doing no KYC at all in some places and that's the problem. This is why I believe that we shouldn't be shocked to learn whenever there is a bit of a problem then there won't be a KYC question in other places. I have met with someone who won 6 million dollars from another place, which I will not name, and didn't do a bit of KYC at all, from 300k to 6 million so he wasn't poor to begin with, all the points for a money laundering but it wasn't asked. So, do not defend it with just money, this place asks it even before you start.
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August 06, 2022, 07:50:04 PM |
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I have once done some research about the major reason why KYC was introduced in the casino and the answer is to protect the company from getting in trouble with the law since some people use them as a way to tint their stolen or illicit crypto so I believe casinos are not after users criminal but they are after keeping their record clean with the law.
I think it is very important to have kyc in the casino. If you have kyc say for all no cheater can do any kind of crime. If we do kyc then our account will be safe. If a person commits a crime, if he has done kyc then they will be able to identify him very quickly. It seems that there are many opportunities. No person can commit any crime here. So we all will always use kyc on the account. Yes, the casino needs to keep operating with a good record with the law and also comply with the rules and regulations of their master license holder. I believe in the future when crypto become mainstream of payment all casino that wants to be licensed and also keep operating their business will need to implement the KYC I understand that law is an important aspect of making these decisions, but when there are other places which we all know who complies with the law, and still end up getting this done, we question how much of it is based on the law, and how much of it is about security and making sure roobet is safe? I dont understand everything you said here. I mean I know one other place which is dealing with literally government to make deals and sponsorships, and they are fine without KYC, so why would Roobet need it for the law, when that other place dealt with the law and came out on top without needing to ask for KYC? If all places were the same we would understand, but some places do not ask for it and law is fine with that.
I think the problem we still have in every aspect of the cryptocurrency setting is that people don't ask themselves the right question before making a conclusion. Ask yourself. Does Roobet ask for KYC when it all started? Why the sudden change? If there's no reason behind there's no reason whatsoever for the Roobet team to implement KYC. When there were a lot of abusers in ICO, IDO, etc KYC was introduced the same thing happened with Roobet and if you don't want to go for the KYC you can just maintain tier 1. Having said that, you can't compare Roobet to any casino because it stands out and their services, contest, etc on this forum speak for it.
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I have met with someone who won 6 million dollars from another place, which I will not name, and didn't do a bit of KYC at all, from 300k to 6 million so he wasn't poor to begin with, all the points for a money laundering but it wasn't asked. So, do not defend it with just money, this place asks it even before you start.
Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates). The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do. I believe all this discussion about kyc is futile and won't change anything. So if someone isn't OK with verifying his identity then simply play on casinos which do not ask for it.
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August 06, 2022, 09:18:31 PM |
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I have met with someone who won 6 million dollars from another place, which I will not name, and didn't do a bit of KYC at all, from 300k to 6 million so he wasn't poor to begin with, all the points for a money laundering but it wasn't asked. So, do not defend it with just money, this place asks it even before you start.
Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates). Just speculating here, but I'd say probably not. From my experience i can assure that many an anonymous bitcoin casino exists, no matter their business type. I bet it will be useful to add a list of trusted places here that don't require KYC from their users.
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Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates). The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do.
This isn't true. There are many anonymous crypto casinos out there that don't require KYC at any point of time and I can attest to that thanks to my experience with some of them over the years. Some of these sites never ask for KYC even if you won a million bucks(Unless you cheated) while some others force customers to provide KYC in order to retrieve their winnings.
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August 07, 2022, 04:33:56 PM |
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Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates). The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do.
This isn't true. There are many anonymous crypto casinos out there that don't require KYC at any point of time and I can attest to that thanks to my experience with some of them over the years. Some of these sites never ask for KYC even if you won a million bucks(Unless you cheated) while some others force customers to provide KYC in order to retrieve their winnings. I agree. They casinos will require you to pass some KYC documents when you cheated, or if your transactions on the casino including the deposits, withdrawal, and any bets are heavily suspicious. I do not know exactly how can the track it but I believe they have the tools that are needed for that matter. Some casino even not regulated forced you to pass a KYC in order for you to be able to withdraw.
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