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October 12, 2022, 12:36:46 PM
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So finally the awaited art contest has arrived and this time on the Halloween theme but there is another restriction this time like cutting the winners to half and rewarding the top 5 winners only and one art entry only.But still will try to participate in it along with other creative artist to get some creativity boost.

Eager to see new creations coming up with this theme so will look forward to it.

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October 12, 2022, 02:32:57 PM
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If we come back to the company choices whether they are willing to take an overhead cost for managing the data or outsourcing it. Do note that, KYC/AML management doesn't solely imply a simple thing like verifying whether the user is legitimate and matches the provided documents. There are many levels within this subject like fraud analysis and checking if one identity is not part of some blacklist or something. And it requires data whereas some companies who specialized in that kind of subject already have.

Let's check a third-party platform that Roobet use, Veriff and Seon. If you are going to their website, you can clearly see that they are solving many problems that are worth outsourcing if some companies are dealing with fraud or identity business requirements.
I understand that it takes time, but you could literally just hire one or two people for that job and be done with it and roobet is a multi-million dollar company that keeps on giving away a lot of stuff to the gamblers as well. Meaning they can definitely afford to hire some people, hell hire a dozen people if they want to, sure that would be useless cost but they can afford it at least it looks like that.

This is why I am not entirely sure the reason would be the hard work it would put. I feel like it is just to make sure that they separate the KYC to another company, for "just in case" reasons, it is adding a layer of security and that’s better.

A sector that is related to identity verification, fraud analysis, and money laundering detection can not be handled by one or two people. And yes Roobet might be able to afford the team to manage regarding the sector. But it came back to profit, what decision is the most efficient yet profitable for the company? Well, it's absolutely to use the third party, not to mention, the data they all already have for the analysis.

I believe there is no "just in case" reason. Running and choosing business decisions should mainly get the most profitable case as possible, so choosing a third party for identity and fraud management is actually predictable and favourable in business aspects, even not merely because of security reasons.
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October 12, 2022, 05:01:32 PM
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If we come back to the company choices whether they are willing to take an overhead cost for managing the data or outsourcing it. Do note that, KYC/AML management doesn't solely imply a simple thing like verifying whether the user is legitimate and matches the provided documents. There are many levels within this subject like fraud analysis and checking if one identity is not part of some blacklist or something. And it requires data whereas some companies who specialized in that kind of subject already have.

Let's check a third-party platform that Roobet use, Veriff and Seon. If you are going to their website, you can clearly see that they are solving many problems that are worth outsourcing if some companies are dealing with fraud or identity business requirements.
I understand that it takes time, but you could literally just hire one or two people for that job and be done with it and roobet is a multi-million dollar company that keeps on giving away a lot of stuff to the gamblers as well. Meaning they can definitely afford to hire some people, hell hire a dozen people if they want to, sure that would be useless cost but they can afford it at least it looks like that.

This is why I am not entirely sure the reason would be the hard work it would put. I feel like it is just to make sure that they separate the KYC to another company, for "just in case" reasons, it is adding a layer of security and that’s better.

A sector that is related to identity verification, fraud analysis, and money laundering detection can not be handled by one or two people. And yes Roobet might be able to afford the team to manage regarding the sector. But it came back to profit, what decision is the most efficient yet profitable for the company? Well, it's absolutely to use the third party, not to mention, the data they all already have for the analysis.

I believe there is no "just in case" reason. Running and choosing business decisions should mainly get the most profitable case as possible, so choosing a third party for identity and fraud management is actually predictable and favourable in business aspects, even not merely because of security reasons.

many end up choosing a third-part platform that in my opinion it's probably the best option
though these companies are almost all the time based in locations like hong kong where compliance is not so strong
ends up that if someone submits documents to KYC websites they'll never know if it'll stay there forever or not

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October 12, 2022, 05:09:31 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
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October 12, 2022, 05:27:06 PM
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I really have one good advice to all those who keep getting tangled up with the KYC stuff, well they should either limit their gambling so that they can keep to lower tiers and keep playing for longer or simply get KYC verified and enjoy without any hesitation.

Or secondly you can straight away visit nearby physical casinos and enjoy gambling their exposing the face to the whole world there. Lolz.

At least with online casinos there is one good thing; you don’t expose yourself to the world. So come on, play more fight less guys.
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October 12, 2022, 11:08:56 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
You should PM directly at Hhampuz and not posting of Roobets ANN thread which is most like it cant really be read up.If you do tend to say some concern then PM him directly and that would surely be considered.

They had recently launched again that drawing contest for Halloween event which had been anticipated for Roobet yet every season and events they do really run up one.

When it comes to those drawing styles and systems been used, i dont know if they would be allowing several ways or methods but as long it would be unique
and cant be seen on the net then it would surely counts.

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October 13, 2022, 10:14:04 AM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
With this case, you have two options to show your opinion and support for Roobet and the manager
It is not relevant to make it in the Announcement thread of Roobet.  Wink

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I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
I don't join those contests so I don't know about rules but in the past, I looked at them and I saw that most of participants submit their work-in-progress and completed ones. Especially winners all have those things.

Not sure they did it because of contest rules or just to show how they worked behind the scene.

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October 13, 2022, 10:26:15 AM
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I like the shirt, it's very simple but it does look very pleasant to my eye. Are there any color variation for this one? I bet this would look great on a yellow shirt.

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You can tell that those who are planning to buy merchandise shirt from a gambling platform will be most likely only those people that are within the gambling industry (players, staffs, promoters, etc.)

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A sector that is related to identity verification, fraud analysis, and money laundering detection can not be handled by one or two people. And yes Roobet might be able to afford the team to manage regarding the sector. But it came back to profit, what decision is the most efficient yet profitable for the company? Well, it's absolutely to use the third party, not to mention, the data they all already have for the analysis.

I believe there is no "just in case" reason. Running and choosing business decisions should mainly get the most profitable case as possible, so choosing a third party for identity and fraud management is actually predictable and favourable in business aspects, even not merely because of security reasons.

many end up choosing a third-part platform that in my opinion it's probably the best option
though these companies are almost all the time based in locations like hong kong where compliance is not so strong
ends up that if someone submits documents to KYC websites they'll never know if it'll stay there forever or not

Seon is based in Budapest[1], while Veriff on Estonia[2]. So I don't know which third-party platform that Roobet use whose based in Hongkong. Identity and platform analysis should always be compliant with the applied regulation anywhere in the world, so I believe if you care enough to read about their own privacy policy, there will be a piece of information that addresses your concern.

[1] https://seon.io/privacy-policy/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veriff
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October 13, 2022, 02:05:50 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
You can ask in the thread if AI art is valid entry or not and suppose there are creativity in this art also as you can use different software to take out your creativity on these contest.Know some AI artist who do lot of creative stuff but if you are saying completely from AI diffusion then don't think it will be permissible but still can ask the team or in that thread.

There is no such rule of submitting WIP but as a proof we submit it and to show that's original art and if found you have copied someone else's work you will not get rewards and account blocked.

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October 14, 2022, 09:02:15 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
You can ask in the thread if AI art is valid entry or not and suppose there are creativity in this art also as you can use different software to take out your creativity on these contest.Know some AI artist who do lot of creative stuff but if you are saying completely from AI diffusion then don't think it will be permissible but still can ask the team or in that thread.

There is no such rule of submitting WIP but as a proof we submit it and to show that's original art and if found you have copied someone else's work you will not get rewards and account blocked.

great point
each contest will have its rules
I agree that AI art also needs some creativity for creating the prompt but imo we shouldn't judge AI art and traditional art on the same contests but on separate categories.

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October 14, 2022, 09:07:25 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
You can ask in the thread if AI art is valid entry or not and suppose there are creativity in this art also as you can use different software to take out your creativity on these contest.Know some AI artist who do lot of creative stuff but if you are saying completely from AI diffusion then don't think it will be permissible but still can ask the team or in that thread.

There is no such rule of submitting WIP but as a proof we submit it and to show that's original art and if found you have copied someone else's work you will not get rewards and account blocked.
There’s no restriction about the software that you can use, this is still with the discretion of the team and probably if the art was good enough to win, then I believe he can still have it and beside you still need time to create such art work even if you use that platform. I’ve seen in the previous art contest most of the winners are really a hand work, they are good with that. Try to ask this on the art thread, Hhampus most probably will reply on that.

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October 14, 2022, 09:26:09 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
You can ask in the thread if AI art is valid entry or not and suppose there are creativity in this art also as you can use different software to take out your creativity on these contest.Know some AI artist who do lot of creative stuff but if you are saying completely from AI diffusion then don't think it will be permissible but still can ask the team or in that thread.

There is no such rule of submitting WIP but as a proof we submit it and to show that's original art and if found you have copied someone else's work you will not get rewards and account blocked.

great point
each contest will have its rules
I agree that AI art also needs some creativity for creating the prompt but imo we shouldn't judge AI art and traditional art on the same contests but on separate categories.
There's soo much difference if we do speak about handwritten art and those AI art or digital but its not necessary that it should be separated on those categories yet they would really be having
criteria not only on what method that they had used but on the general essence and criteria that they are looking for.It doesnt matter if its AI'ed or handwritten.
But its true that it would be good if this query should really be clarified and be asked out on the main Roobet art thread so that there the manager
of the said campaign will really be making out clarifications in regards on this one.

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October 14, 2022, 09:54:04 PM
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There's soo much difference if we do speak about handwritten art and those AI art or digital but its not necessary that it should be separated on those categories yet they would really be having
criteria not only on what method that they had used but on the general essence and criteria that they are looking for.It doesnt matter if its AI'ed or handwritten.
But its true that it would be good if this query should really be clarified and be asked out on the main Roobet art thread so that there the manager
of the said campaign will really be making out clarifications in regards on this one.
Let's just stick with the rules, Roobet has been hosting this art contest for years now and there's complain about the winners.
Before they hosted the contest per category but maybe because of some budget problem or cost cutting, they go back to the normal contest for all the category. It's sad to see as well that there will only 5 winners for the recent art contest, because before it usually 10 winners. Well, let's just do our best and participate because we have nothing to lose here, there's a lot of great artist with Roobet art contest, it's really challenging.
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October 14, 2022, 10:06:25 PM
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Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
You can ask in the thread if AI art is valid entry or not and suppose there are creativity in this art also as you can use different software to take out your creativity on these contest.Know some AI artist who do lot of creative stuff but if you are saying completely from AI diffusion then don't think it will be permissible but still can ask the team or in that thread.

There is no such rule of submitting WIP but as a proof we submit it and to show that's original art and if found you have copied someone else's work you will not get rewards and account blocked.

great point
each contest will have its rules
I agree that AI art also needs some creativity for creating the prompt but imo we shouldn't judge AI art and traditional art on the same contests but on separate categories.
There's soo much difference if we do speak about handwritten art and those AI art or digital but its not necessary that it should be separated on those categories yet they would really be having
criteria not only on what method that they had used but on the general essence and criteria that they are looking for.It doesnt matter if its AI'ed or handwritten.
But its true that it would be good if this query should really be clarified and be asked out on the main Roobet art thread so that there the manager
of the said campaign will really be making out clarifications in regards on this one.

There are softwares already which can generate AI arts so I think this one should not count because if they allow AI arts for sure many participants will enter and just go with the software so that it can generate them an art without putting to much effort on it. That is so unfair to the participants who spend to much time to their arts creating manual arts or even hand written ones.

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October 14, 2022, 10:14:48 PM
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There are softwares already which can generate AI arts so I think this one should not count because if they allow AI arts for sure many participants will enter and just go with the software so that it can generate them an art without putting to much effort on it. That is so unfair to the participants who spend to much time to their arts creating manual arts or even hand written ones.
They can participate, but the probability for them to win is very low because with Roobet art contest, there's a lot of good participants and most of them are digitally hand drawn and carving something into the best art. The team of Roobet knows this for sure, so we don't have to worry about that software or if they won using other's picture or art, then we can raise that concern into the right thread. Few days left before the end of the new contest, better to focus on that.

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October 14, 2022, 10:43:47 PM
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There are softwares already which can generate AI arts so I think this one should not count because if they allow AI arts for sure many participants will enter and just go with the software so that it can generate them an art without putting to much effort on it. That is so unfair to the participants who spend to much time to their arts creating manual arts or even hand written ones.
They can participate, but the probability for them to win is very low because with Roobet art contest, there's a lot of good participants and most of them are digitally hand drawn and carving something into the best art. The team of Roobet knows this for sure, so we don't have to worry about that software or if they won using other's picture or art, then we can raise that concern into the right thread. Few days left before the end of the new contest, better to focus on that.
There’s no question about how they choose the winners but if there’s a software like this that can easily create a good art by putting all the images that they get from google is quiet not fair, but it’s not our call since it can be creative as well. If you think this is not ok, better to raise this concern now on the right art thread to avoid any participants with that kind of art.
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October 14, 2022, 10:58:30 PM
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There are softwares already which can generate AI arts so I think this one should not count because if they allow AI arts for sure many participants will enter and just go with the software so that it can generate them an art without putting to much effort on it. That is so unfair to the participants who spend to much time to their arts creating manual arts or even hand written ones.
They can participate, but the probability for them to win is very low because with Roobet art contest, there's a lot of good participants and most of them are digitally hand drawn and carving something into the best art. The team of Roobet knows this for sure, so we don't have to worry about that software or if they won using other's picture or art, then we can raise that concern into the right thread. Few days left before the end of the new contest, better to focus on that.
There’s no question about how they choose the winners but if there’s a software like this that can easily create a good art by putting all the images that they get from google is quiet not fair, but it’s not our call since it can be creative as well. If you think this is not ok, better to raise this concern now on the right art thread to avoid any participants with that kind of art.
Roobet isnt that dumb not to know those software-make images which it doesnt really need up to put much effort for them to do so and able to submit.They would of course be looking on arts which had been

well made and put up extreme effort and time for it to be done.Its one of their criteria of course and with having this digital age then it not impossible on creating images on sheer efforts.

They can submit all the want, as long it wasnt been prohibited then its up to theirs if they would be using it but i do believe they would be sticking into those handrawn.

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October 15, 2022, 01:02:14 PM
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They can participate, but the probability for them to win is very low because with Roobet art contest, there's a lot of good participants and most of them are digitally hand drawn and carving something into the best art. The team of Roobet knows this for sure, so we don't have to worry about that software or if they won using other's picture or art, then we can raise that concern into the right thread. Few days left before the end of the new contest, better to focus on that.
Can't say with guarantee that team finds which type of art more creative and interesting as there is no limits for being creative mind and you could make simple art or say if AI is allowed then you can be extra imaginative in it to show your talent.All the participation are well talented and all entries are good but last result depends on team hands.

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October 15, 2022, 01:10:29 PM
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They can participate, but the probability for them to win is very low because with Roobet art contest, there's a lot of good participants and most of them are digitally hand drawn and carving something into the best art. The team of Roobet knows this for sure, so we don't have to worry about that software or if they won using other's picture or art, then we can raise that concern into the right thread. Few days left before the end of the new contest, better to focus on that.
Can't say with guarantee that team finds which type of art more creative and interesting as there is no limits for being creative mind and you could make simple art or say if AI is allowed then you can be extra imaginative in it to show your talent.All the participation are well talented and all entries are good but last result depends on team hands.
I think that for the art contest, in Robbet they must have many art specialists to be able to determine if the art is original and made by a human and not by an artificial intelligence, the artificial intelligence can have zero details, instead the art made by a human can have many details that do not make it imperfect, but more human and I think that is what they are looking for in Rootet, I don't know if they have won before with AI art? I haven't drawn for a long time, I'm someone who has always done some art, but there's a lot of talent here, I'd be a little embarrassed to launch my art, here there are many people who have a very high artistic level.

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