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March 25, 2014, 07:54:23 PM |
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rock solid lol you do know you can buy packets (10-100-1000) of verified facebook accounts  As i've said.. if FB isn't the way.. then there's no better way that exists.. Sure , every system will have flaws. But our method is the best method so far. Our claims data suggests that all claims have been legit thus far.  its other thing to have flaws that may be fixed and other thing to have major flaws on the core of something that cannot be fixed... |
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micryon
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March 25, 2014, 08:05:14 PM |
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rock solid lol you do know you can buy packets (10-100-1000) of verified facebook accounts As i've said.. if FB isn't the way.. then there's no better way that exists.. Sure , every system will have flaws. But our method is the best method so far. Our claims data suggests that all claims have been legit thus far. its other thing to have flaws that may be fixed and other thing to have major flaws on the core of something that cannot be fixed... True. But nothing indicates to me that this is a major flaw... especially relative to any other methods. You can bulk buy government IDs, credit cards, heck even passports.. some countries even easier than others. Yet those currencies, agencies and such still operate just fine. It's a constant battle... that agencies wage with these operators, as it's a constant battle that FB/Google wage as well. Anyways, it's no harm in trying and looking at the data.. don't be afraid to experiment, imo.. esp if it costs you nothing.. I'm shouldering 100% of the cost, just to try it out... anyways i learned a lot (more than reading forums) on this project.. so all well worth it... |
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Mad Scientist
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March 25, 2014, 10:35:19 PM |
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First GOX and now Vircurex go down for almost the same reasons yet we're supposed to believe "shitcoins" are the problem with Crypto. "Shitcoins" are whats keeping Bitcoin and Litecoin from expanding and gaining World Domination. Not Corrupt and/or Poorly run exchanges, noooooo.
Perhaps the OP can now begin to see just how bad an idea this cryptobashing thread really is and just close it.
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micryon
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March 25, 2014, 10:41:59 PM |
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Perhaps the OP can now begin to see just how bad an idea this cryptobashing thread really is and just close it.
Agree that all this exchange hacks are keeping all of us down, getting out of control.  Can't even get my BTCs out of cryptorush atm... Would be awesome if we could help on that front somehow. |
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poornamelessme
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March 25, 2014, 11:05:33 PM
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Perhaps the OP can now begin to see just how bad an idea this cryptobashing thread really is and just close it.
Agree that all this exchange hacks are keeping all of us down, getting out of control. Can't even get my BTCs out of cryptorush atm... Would be awesome if we could help on that front somehow. Had that same problem, had to convert to something else to get it out of cryptorush. It didn't help that the site was getting ddossed at the time. One odd thing about this thread is it may in fact achieve its goal, inadvertently (perceived goal, I should say ... the other goal may be extortion and financial gain). If I was a new investor to cryptos, saw this site... then this thread, I'd see hacking, extortion, racketeering threats, as well as people talking about destroying coins. Other threads talk about forking AUR, since, umm... I guess the airdrop is working. So might as well wreck that coin too. If I was considering investing any real money into cryptos, this would certainly scare me away from investing in any shitcoins. It'd also scare me away from investing in any crypto whatsoever. |
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micryon
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March 25, 2014, 11:45:38 PM |
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Had that same problem, had to convert to something else to get it out of cryptorush. It didn't help that the site was getting ddossed at the time.
I just did the same thing.. went with LTC.. You made me a little nervous.. oh well even if i take a small loss on it.. better safe than sorry Totally out of cryptorush now... |
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March 25, 2014, 11:48:35 PM |
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Had that same problem, had to convert to something else to get it out of cryptorush. It didn't help that the site was getting ddossed at the time.
I just did the same thing.. went with LTC.. You made me a little nervous.. oh well even if i take a small loss on it.. better safe than sorry Totally out of cryptorush now... Better pick LTC than the unsellable Flappycoins I used elsewhere  |
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poornamelessme
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March 25, 2014, 11:50:32 PM |
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Had that same problem, had to convert to something else to get it out of cryptorush. It didn't help that the site was getting ddossed at the time.
I just did the same thing.. went with LTC.. You made me a little nervous.. oh well even if i take a small loss on it.. better safe than sorry Totally out of cryptorush now... It was difficult finding a good pair to get at an even rate. I chose maza... then the site froze up on me, and took forever for the confirmations. I did lose a little, but it wasn't much btc to begin with for me. I normally never keep anything on cryptorush, but late last night I was doing some minor arbitrage trades for freebie greece coins (which wasn't probably worth the effort looking at the price now), and it was late... figured it'd be fine to leave the leftover btc there. And today people talking about hacks/bc stuff .... and site constantly down ... was happy to get my coins out of there, even at a minor loss. |
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micryon
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March 26, 2014, 12:02:19 AM |
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Btw, i've been reading on this whole BC and Cryptorush drama..
Actually it's relevant to this discussion in that it's actually safer to make new coins rather than augment old coins. Hard forking existing coins with updates is extremely dangerous.. If you don't do with care, and if people don't update at the same time, this kind of drama happens.
This is one of the limitations of bitcoin protocol.. not easy to update and has to be handled with extreme care.
It makes spinning new alt coins a safer alternative to implement new ideas, rather than augment existing coins...
Anyways just my 2 cents from dev perspective...
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March 26, 2014, 12:03:06 AM |
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If I was considering investing any real money into cryptos, this would certainly scare me away from investing in any shitcoins. It'd also scare me away from investing in any crypto whatsoever.
^^^This. Try explaining to Joe Average why a crapcoin is a crapcoin without mentioning Bitcoin... |
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illodin
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March 26, 2014, 12:05:41 AM |
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If this operation escalates and headlines start coming in it might not be a bad idea to move into fiat for a while, at least until the dust settles.
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poornamelessme
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March 26, 2014, 12:08:15 AM |
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If I was considering investing any real money into cryptos, this would certainly scare me away from investing in any shitcoins. It'd also scare me away from investing in any crypto whatsoever.
^^^This. Try explaining to Joe Average why a crapcoin is a crapcoin without mentioning Bitcoin... Well, my point was, shitcoins wouldn't scare me away from investing in cryptos. All of this talk of hacking, forking and extortion would, however ... and also keep me from investing into bitcoins too. This thread basically conveys a message that the crypto world is run by 15 year old trolls, who wish to hack and fork coins so they can make money off of it. No serious investor would bother. |
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March 26, 2014, 12:09:59 AM |
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If I was considering investing any real money into cryptos, this would certainly scare me away from investing in any shitcoins. It'd also scare me away from investing in any crypto whatsoever.
^^^This. Try explaining to Joe Average why a crapcoin is a crapcoin without mentioning Bitcoin... Well, my point was, shitcoins wouldn't scare me away from investing in cryptos. All of this talk of hacking, forking and extortion would, however ... and also keep me from investing into bitcoins too. This thread basically conveys a message that the crypto world is run by 15 year old trolls, who wish to hack and fork coins so they can make money off of it. No serious investor would bother. and shouldnt in coins that can manipulated so easily. thats the whole point. Serious investors should invest in serious coins. |
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poornamelessme
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March 26, 2014, 12:13:30 AM |
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and shouldnt in coins that can manipulated so easily. thats the whole point. Serious investors should invest in serious coins.
Yeah, and if a serious investor saw this thread, he'd choose gold or silver coins, not cryptos. Any crypto. |
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March 26, 2014, 12:17:33 AM |
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and shouldnt in coins that can manipulated so easily. thats the whole point. Serious investors should invest in serious coins.
Yeah, and if a serious investor saw this thread, he'd choose gold or silver coins, not cryptos. Any crypto. maybe. So the idea is that instead of making clones and ponzi coins we should be making/supporting better and innovative coins in that will help the future of cryptos. |
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March 26, 2014, 12:24:16 AM |
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maybe. So the idea is that instead of making clones and ponzi coins we should be making/supporting better and innovative coins in that will help the future of cryptos.
Better coins would help. And I find all of these cloned coins a waste (unless you can pick when to get in on a pump and dump). But they are hardly why the market is going down. As others have stated, it's Gox and shady exchanges. Imagine if Cryptsy went down now ... how many people here would simply walk away from cryptos forever? This movement really isn't about killing shitcoins anyway. The leader of said movement made his own shitcoins, so you can believe their motives are dubious ... not to mention the extortion comments made here. The real problem are the exchanges, not the junk coins. |
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March 26, 2014, 12:41:52 AM |
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Well, my point was, shitcoins wouldn't scare me away from investing in cryptos. All of this talk of hacking, forking and extortion would, however ... and also keep me from investing into bitcoins too.
Well its not people "investing" that crypto currency (especially bitcoin) needs, success of a crypto shouldn't ever be about its price vs USD or how much ROI people can make, it should be about how useful they are as a currency. |
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poornamelessme
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March 26, 2014, 12:44:37 AM |
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Well its not people "investing" that crypto currency (especially bitcoin) needs, success of a crypto shouldn't ever be about its price vs USD or how much ROI people can make, it should be about how useful they are as a currency.
Let's just say mass adoption of bitcoin (or any crypto), probably wouldn't be helped much by reports of hackers forking coins, ddossing pools, or trying to extort devs for money. |
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March 26, 2014, 01:02:32 AM |
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Well its not people "investing" that crypto currency (especially bitcoin) needs, success of a crypto shouldn't ever be about its price vs USD or how much ROI people can make, it should be about how useful they are as a currency.
Let's just say mass adoption of bitcoin (or any crypto), probably wouldn't be helped much by reports of hackers forking coins, ddossing pools, or trying to extort devs for money. Just like the constant reports of robbery, drugs, illegal arms trade, organsied crime, banks going bust, have hindered the mass adoption of USD  |
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poornamelessme
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March 26, 2014, 01:07:58 AM |
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Well its not people "investing" that crypto currency (especially bitcoin) needs, success of a crypto shouldn't ever be about its price vs USD or how much ROI people can make, it should be about how useful they are as a currency.
Let's just say mass adoption of bitcoin (or any crypto), probably wouldn't be helped much by reports of hackers forking coins, ddossing pools, or trying to extort devs for money. Just like the constant reports of robbery, drugs, illegal arms trade, organsied crime, banks going bust, have hindered the mass adoption of USD One key difference ... people don't have a choice regarding USD. Unless they want to go pay for their groceries using foreign currency or dogecoins, and get weird looks. And an illegal arms trade won't magically make the money you are holding in your hand vanish. Perception is what I am talking about anyway. The idea that a bunch of kids could hack/ddos/fork a cyrpto and it would affect your investment, probably doesn't help much. |
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