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March 27, 2014, 06:32:33 PM |
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Nearly all coins have testnet option (since it is in the original source) and a few of them have actually mined some testnet blocks while testing connections as per Shakezula tutorial.
More serious devs have even changed the testnet address byte from the default 111 (=m).
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micryon
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March 27, 2014, 06:43:17 PM |
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one thing to consider, which of these coins have working testnets? either as a built in option by setting the --testnet flag, or a separate repo branch to get around any technical hurdles of the defacto testnet mode. IMO, if the developer went to the time to atleast implement testnet, it might not be a pump and dump.
I took the trouble to bring up testnet for Planetdollar. Mostly because I needed to test the FB claim capability ahead of launch, and this was the best way to do so without impacting the "realnet"'s blockchain. So yeah it's pretty useful, and seeds can run on the same nodes as the realnet seeds.. That said, i still feel it's really dangerous even touching the coin after launch.. and frankly i'd rather not do it unless absolutely necessary. Instead i think it's more interesting building web services around coins.. that's the only real way to monetize your efforts anyhow. There's not a lot of money in coin developing...
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Mad Scientist
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March 27, 2014, 06:46:07 PM |
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You guys better sell yer Bitcoin Shitcoins before yer left "holdin' the bag".
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illodin
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March 27, 2014, 06:59:28 PM |
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You guys better sell yer Bitcoin Shitcoins before yer left "holdin' the bag".
In the process of getting ready to move most to fiat for a while. Will probably pull the trigger when the news stories start coming in. Good or bad move?
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dewdeded
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March 27, 2014, 07:01:34 PM |
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Is this "operation" doing anything or just lame talk?
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March 27, 2014, 08:54:45 PM |
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a whitelist/blacklist should be managed by consensus, not one guy / exchange ( => corruption). You're missing the point. If it were managed by consensus, how are the extortionists running this "Operation" going to get their money? This whole thing has NOTHING to do with cleaning up shitcoins. It's about scamming people out of money. Scam coin creators like the OP clear out the competition. Pool operators get sheep to DDOS competitors. And the extortionists collect their "registration fees." It's not about cleaning up anything. It's about criminals working together to expand their enterprise and conning fools into doing most of the work for them.
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Mad Scientist
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March 27, 2014, 11:55:32 PM |
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You guys better sell yer Bitcoin Shitcoins before yer left "holdin' the bag".
In the process of getting ready to move most to fiat for a while. Will probably pull the trigger when the news stories start coming in. Good or bad move? Well, Bitcoin has dropped to 480 as I post this. The Bitcoin threads are all saying "great time to buy" like they always do when the bottom drops out. Pick the price where YOU would get back into the bitcoin market, and then it reaches that price, get back into the market. I guarantee you the "Old Timers" here who bought in when Bitcoin was $0.01 have no better Idea than you or I of when it'll stop dropping and when/if it goes back up.
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mgburks77
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March 28, 2014, 12:33:07 AM |
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http://www.coindesk.com/reddit-ceo-thinks-world-dogecoin-slams-crazy-bitcoiners/ “Without being too inflammatory, the user base for bitcoin is basically crazy libertarians who are increasingly poorly informed about currency systems and macroeconomics.
I say ‘increasingly’ because at one time it was fairly well-informed libertarians but as the currency has become mainstream, it’s attracted more poorly-informed individuals and the conversation have become more polarized and less knowledge-based, driving the well-informed and balanced people away, or at least prompting them to recede into the background.” “[Dogecoin] has all the features of bitcoin – technologically speaking – but frees itself from the libertarian culture of bitcoin that turns off so much of the mainstream.” It's official, the "bitcoin culture" drives users to altcoins, which are the future.
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Wipeout2097
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March 28, 2014, 12:38:16 AM |
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http://www.coindesk.com/reddit-ceo-thinks-world-dogecoin-slams-crazy-bitcoiners/ “Without being too inflammatory, the user base for bitcoin is basically crazy libertarians who are increasingly poorly informed about currency systems and macroeconomics.
I say ‘increasingly’ because at one time it was fairly well-informed libertarians but as the currency has become mainstream, it’s attracted more poorly-informed individuals and the conversation have become more polarized and less knowledge-based, driving the well-informed and balanced people away, or at least prompting them to recede into the background.” “[Dogecoin] has all the features of bitcoin – technologically speaking – but frees itself from the libertarian culture of bitcoin that turns off so much of the mainstream.” It's official, the "bitcoin culture" drives users to altcoins, which are the future. Sure, but the guy is a fucktard... Just like in the real world where if you’re a country looking to provide a new currency and you decide you hate Americans and don’t want to transact in dollars, you can just print your own currency So, people create their own currencies because they hate Americans? Edit: wait, nvm, I don't care. I should just go and read the Spanish or French or German spoken internet if I'm fed up of these cultural views...
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mgburks77
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March 28, 2014, 12:40:28 AM |
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the point is that the bitcoin user base is repellent and altcoins are more attractive. This thread is a great example of why.
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Swordsoffreedom
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March 28, 2014, 12:45:24 AM |
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http://www.coindesk.com/reddit-ceo-thinks-world-dogecoin-slams-crazy-bitcoiners/ “Without being too inflammatory, the user base for bitcoin is basically crazy libertarians who are increasingly poorly informed about currency systems and macroeconomics.
I say ‘increasingly’ because at one time it was fairly well-informed libertarians but as the currency has become mainstream, it’s attracted more poorly-informed individuals and the conversation have become more polarized and less knowledge-based, driving the well-informed and balanced people away, or at least prompting them to recede into the background.” “[Dogecoin] has all the features of bitcoin – technologically speaking – but frees itself from the libertarian culture of bitcoin that turns off so much of the mainstream.” It's official, the "bitcoin culture" drives users to altcoins, which are the future. Well he's fairly cocky the little runt then again he created a troll meme coin that has successfully launched and gained traction and has a developer team behind it so he is not a shitcoin lol. Anyways the field may be even for now in that regard until the next layer security is built then we will start seeing even more separation from the standard coins and the ones that can take off further I say ‘increasingly’ because at one time it was fairly well-informed libertarians but as the currency has become mainstream, it’s attracted more poorly-informed individuals and the conversation have become more polarized and less knowledge-based, driving the well-informed and balanced people away, or at least prompting them to recede into the background.” I'll give him that one but that's the curse of mass adoption eventually we get down to the mainstream and find idiots and we started pretty high on that bell curve so it was to be expected. Not necessarily a bad thing though since the endgoal is to be mainstream Well Death To Central Banks but Valid point here For the first time in history, Wong said, the world has a low-friction electronic payments and trust-delegation system, which is valuable in its own right. In essence, there is no need for any ideology, since digital currencies are a powerful concept on their own. “It couldn’t be stupider, and that’s why it’s brilliant,” he concluded. Well I'll give him that anyways interesting read back to killing clone coins
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Spoetnik
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March 28, 2014, 08:27:12 AM |
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a whitelist/blacklist should be managed by consensus, not one guy / exchange ( => corruption). You're missing the point. If it were managed by consensus, how are the extortionists running this "Operation" going to get their money? This whole thing has NOTHING to do with cleaning up shitcoins. It's about scamming people out of money. Scam coin creators like the OP clear out the competition. Pool operators get sheep to DDOS competitors. And the extortionists collect their "registration fees." It's not about cleaning up anything. It's about criminals working together to expand their enterprise and conning fools into doing most of the work for them. I read what you said and the only conclusion i can come up with is you have no problems with any coins (no matter how bad they are or who made them or how many the guy made) You are speaking as though there is NO problem at all what so ever ever in any way. Feel free to clarify what you are saying because i think it's pure insanity. and you guys are pushing this extortion crap as a defense for scams but i don't see any shitcoin haters talking about it nor do i at all in this topic.. rather than addressing the actual issues you guys are changing the subject and playing games and starting little diversions.. such as the guy who claimed we DDOS'd him lol i will say it AGAIN your making yourselves look bad big time ! Your not winning here if that's what you think is happening.. if anything you are furthering our cause. In reality you guys would have been better off just keeping quiet lol
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March 28, 2014, 08:29:18 AM |
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The word "scam" lost its meaning anyway. Everything is a scam now.
People get called scammers for charging 1% markup on legitimate services, where they add value and so on. Every new project or website is called scam anyway, no matter who released it or what is on.
excuse me but i think the word CURRENCY has lost all meaning
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Spoetnik
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March 28, 2014, 08:33:20 AM |
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Still new to Crypto's but I am in a way thankful to the cleanup team. Learning a lot from these discussions None of them has stated that they are against altcoins, just the scam one's. Been following AUR discussions over the past few days. The dev's were warned since launch to use escrow for airdrop which I believe would have provided significant merit to the them and the coin. They chose to ignore the warning and now see what's happening. (Still on the fence on this one. Mined a few via multipool but not holding any) Using AUR only as an example but I'm sure there are few others that need to be targeted. -RGM The escrow part has been discussed a lot between BCX and me (or actually, addressed by me and ignored categorically by BCX). Basics behind the AUR DEV not participating in an Escrow solution is the main question: "Who would this be?" None of the members here can be trusted with it since they are all anonymous as well (like Dev). The only logical Escrow would be a well known publicly know figure that has the status and means to lose a lot if things get screwed up. This person, if we can find him, then has to withdraw himself from public, because for sure all the governments, banks and other criminals will go after him and his 1 Bilion cashable coins. It's so easy to claim it's a fraud because there has been no Escrow, but if you really want that, come up with something that works (sensibly!). So far, BCX hasn't even replied to all my efforts to address this!I would like indulge BCX and invite him to personally pick up that task. To do so, he does however needs to come foreword publicly. I will pay for his ticket and 5 star hotel if he is willing to come to Reykjavik and publicly identify himself. He can then open up a wallet and Balduro can transfer all pre mined coins there. He then has to stay reachable during the rest of the airdrop and make sure everything goes well. Hell I even pay him 1BTC a day for it!pure bs i can find reputable escrow service.. i dealt with one yesterday as a matter of fact. sit on the largest premine in all of crypto history then spin it so it's a good thing ? excuse me buddy but he shouldn't even have those premined coins to begin with ! jeez what is wrong with you people wow.. you people and your dumb ass stupid excuses for scammy shit never cease to amaze me.
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March 28, 2014, 08:38:30 AM |
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Is this "operation" doing anything or just lame talk?
complaining about lame talk on a discussion forum where people can only .. talk ? complaining we are not as far as YOU are aware attacking the coins you don't want us to attack ? egging us on even though some of us have taken down shit loads of coins before ? contributing nothing what so ever to this topic yet again ? like i said.. you guys (scam supporters) would best serve your cause by shutting the fuck up.. you just make your selves look like idiots lol so by all means lets hear some more dumb ass bullshit ahhaaa
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March 28, 2014, 09:26:32 AM |
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What's the total number of coins to date, the collective in this thread have stopped?
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March 28, 2014, 09:29:50 AM |
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This is what I find hilarious about this whole drama. All the naive Aspies who spew venom at Altcoins are in the same exact boat, a shadowy mysterious developer who won't reveal himself, distrust by the general public that what they are running is a pyramid scheme, attacking alts for "having no infrastructure" or "wide merchant acceptance" when neither does Bitcoin really (sorry but a shitty little wordpress storefront selling giftcards and GPUs doesn't count as "wide" merchant acceptance in my book), and a majority of the coin wealth owned by an elite few (the top 1% of bitcoin holders hold 80% of them, and here we think a 1% premine for a developer is greed).
Mark Karpeles and Charlie Schrem did more to betray the trust of crypto in the eyes of the general public then anyone and they were "one of the boys" around here and put on a pedestal. Most people who even have the vaguest idea of what Bitcoin is have no idea what Litecoin is and certainly have no clue about alt coins, so to blame alts for the state of crypto is disingenuous.
I think what really upsets some of the "old guard" but that they won't admit to, is they are upset that many noobies are not wanting to pay the $500-$1000 "tax" to buy a bitcoin and join their elite club and instead are gambling on these penny stock coins hoping to get rich. Well guess what fellas, you created this madness when you yourselves speculated Bitcoin from dollars and cents to $1000 a coin almost overnight (Litecoins rise was even more meteoric and questionably boosted in only days) What did you think would happen but attract a new breed of investors looking to get rich quick like you did?
Re-quoted so it doesn't get lost in the mass of shit in this thread. Any of the core team of shitcoin-cleaners care to respond to this?
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March 28, 2014, 09:51:55 AM |
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What's the total number of coins to date, the collective in this thread have stopped?
Big fat ZERO.
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