🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[dothebeats]

These damn bo2 group stage is totally killing me, I keep losing on this because I got some of those teams to win which ended up with a draw. Totally love the group stage to end as soon as possible so we can progress to the playoff stage indeed. If only they bring back bo3 group stage, it would be much more entertaining though

This is the reason why I don't like to bet on BO2. I like watching them and gauging how these teams currently perform, and then draw some analyses afterwards should they pass the initial rounds and be grouped in the group stage. The first two days of Dota tournaments I purposely avoid and pick up the pace once the group stages begin.

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[ralle14]

It seems Team Spirit is just way better than any team currently around. I guess they are going to win this tournament again most likely.

BOL on the Team Spirit bet. I was close to taking them, but I had to switch my bet to Gaimin Gladiators since I can't count out BetBoom, knowing they're very familiar with Team Spirit.

Totally love the group stage to end as soon as possible so we can progress to the playoff stage indeed.

Same, and it's why i've been shifting my focus to other tournaments (IEM Katowice and LoL) for now.  

[emrecemsan]

Anyone following IEM Katowice 2024 recently? I haven't been able to keep up with it regularly unluckily. I have been supporting Eternal Fire due to its representing my country in this huge tournament.



However as far as I can see we are already out in the group stage.    But we are really unlucky to have a matchup against FaZe and right after that against NaVi in lower semi-finals. The thing I have noticed is that we are dropping from the game very easily on last maps of the series we play. We should work on keeping our concentration level high throughout a series.

These are tough opponents for us of course but we actually have a really solid lineup. We have a potential to be more successful than this. 

[passwordnow]

This is the reason why I don't like to bet on BO2. I like watching them and gauging how these teams currently perform, and then draw some analyses afterwards should they pass the initial rounds and be grouped in the group stage. The first two days of Dota tournaments I purposely avoid and pick up the pace once the group stages begin.

It's one of the mistakes to get into bo2 series'. They're not really good times to bet because you'll never know if these teams will test some line ups and new heroes that they're going to use. Speaking on bo2 game, there's an issue that after GG and Team Liquid's game, the organizers want them to shake hands as sportmanship on the first day of the group stages. I haven't see the video since I am mostly watching in game but then, all the 4 players of Team Liquid shook GGs hand after they lose. There's one player that declined to shake and that's 33, the last one that they have to shake and he's on the last side of the table.

Quinn defended him on his tweets because that's how someone's going to feel just after losing. The emotion was high on that game and he understood that with these bo2 series', it's not the typical approach that they're going to have just after the game. It should just be like walking away whether they win or lose but as compliance to the staff and organizers on the field, they've directed GG to go to Team Liquid's side and wanted to shake hands with them.

[ralle14]

Anyone following IEM Katowice 2024 recently? I haven't been able to keep up with it regularly unluckily. I have been supporting Eternal Fire due to its representing my country in this huge tournament.

I've been following the IEM Katowice, Vitality with the sudden early exit, and Team Spirit looks unbeatable with donk.  

Eternal Fire is always off to a solid start, and even though they lost against Faze, they did great taking advantage of the mistakes of Faze because they had no business winning that second map.

On the Navi series, the map pool heavily favors the side of Navi when Anubis is Navi's third-best map. At least they kept it competitive when those two series could've been a 2-0 win for their opponent.

[emrecemsan]

I've been following the IEM Katowice, Vitality with the sudden early exit, and Team Spirit looks unbeatable with donk.  

Eternal Fire is always off to a solid start, and even though they lost against Faze, they did great taking advantage of the mistakes of Faze because they had no business winning that second map.

On the Navi series, the map pool heavily favors the side of Navi when Anubis is Navi's third-best map. At least they kept it competitive when those two series could've been a 2-0 win for their opponent.

FaZe continued with the same lineup for a long while and managed to stay in high places in the standings meanwhile. Twistzz is the only player who has been replaced recently as far as I can see. But they are still doing just fine after adding frozen to the team.    It looks like FaZe don't need a big renovation like NaVi did in the past.

When it comes to NaVi I see s1mple being benched. Do you know what the reason is for his decision? They still look decent even without him after transferring w0nderful from Sprout to fill s1mple's space. I can't say they have the youngest lineup maybe but the experience level looks really solid. 

[vennali]

These damn bo2 group stage is totally killing me, I keep losing on this because I got some of those teams to win which ended up with a draw. Totally love the group stage to end as soon as possible so we can progress to the playoff stage indeed. If only they bring back bo3 group stage, it would be much more entertaining though

It has been a bit unpredictable but in any case, best is to watch the draft and bet on a good team with a good draft. Not foolproof but works okay. These group stages are unpredictable as all teams are fairly balanced with a few players having the factor that can push it over the edge for a win. Drafts are playing a key role in here to get an additional advantage. Like yesterday and day before playing against the Falcons. Teams are heavily banning ATF's hero pool, completely leaving him to play some other hero from the offline role, that he isn't comfortable with. Worked really well for team Liquid as they managed to 2-0 Falcons while yesterday, Falcons managed to 2-0 a team that was in red hot form in Gamin Gladiators, which wasn't predicted by most. 

[boltz]

I'm so happy when I see GG losing games in Dota2 because personally I got tired of watching them winning last year and there are so many other skilled players and great teams who deserve a chance to win trophies as well.

Lately , it seems China region is back being the strongest region in Dota 2 and with teams like Azure Ray , Xtreme Gaming , G2.IG , LGD , I think it certain to say that TI 2024 will have a one of those teams as a winner.

[arallmuus]

I'm so happy when I see GG losing games in Dota2 because personally I got tired of watching them winning last year and there are so many other skilled players and great teams who deserve a chance to win trophies as well.

As a matter of facts, Team Spirit has been dominating like the last 3-4 tournaments so GG hasnt been winning that much. Also aside from that GG is still on top of group A so generally speaking they still stand a good chance to win this tournament though so if you hate to see them winning then I guess you will really hate how this BetBoom Dacha tournament turns out if they make it to top 2 

Lately , it seems China region is back being the strongest region in Dota 2 and with teams like Azure Ray , Xtreme Gaming , G2.IG , LGD , I think it certain to say that TI 2024 will have a one of those teams as a winner.

Its still too early to conclude this, literally Betboom Dacha is the 1st top tier tournament this year

[execijutiere]

Eternal Fire had a not bad performance in the IEM tournament.We can clearly see that the team still has some shortcomings.These tournaments are there to gain more experience and see the mistakes.Overall, I have to say that the team has moved up in tier and is not playing as bad as before. I think maj3r has a big share in this.The team sometimes gets demoralized quickly when they give a round and they need to deal with that.This is a game and we can say that it is a game that has the potential to take every round.Even if you are Eco, you can take the round with a good tactic, so they should not be demoralized at all.

[passwordnow]

I'm so happy when I see GG losing games in Dota2 because personally I got tired of watching them winning last year and there are so many other skilled players and great teams who deserve a chance to win trophies as well.

It's like that finally a team has beaten them. We're not happy because we want to them to lose, we're happy because that it seems balance whenever some teams have beaten them. One more day remaining for the games in the group stages tomorrow and we're done and gonna move on to the play offs. As of this time, there were already two times that are surely not going to move on there but still have their last games tomorrow. That's both of these teams on the group A;

• Aurora
• Virtus.Pro

And this means that teams on the group A aside from the two are already secured for the playoffs.

While on the group B, the two seemingly about to get eliminated teams are;

• nouns
• OG

Although there's a potential to get into four tie but I don't think that it will be.

[vennali]

I'm so happy when I see GG losing games in Dota2 because personally I got tired of watching them winning last year and there are so many other skilled players and great teams who deserve a chance to win trophies as well.

Lately , it seems China region is back being the strongest region in Dota 2 and with teams like Azure Ray , Xtreme Gaming , G2.IG , LGD , I think it certain to say that TI 2024 will have a one of those teams as a winner.

China is going through a crisis in terms of getting new talented Dota2 players. The Hype for Dota2 is sort of dead in China as more players are moving into mobile-based games and others. It is much much needed that Chinese teams do well in Majors so that it creates interest again back home. That being said, its way too soon to judge. It's just that people playing in different servers have different understandings of the meta and might match up differently when all grouped. Most of the other region pros kind of intermingle by travelling around the world and experiencing it. China however is a bit different in that regard.  We will only get a better understanding as the event goes into later stages. EU has been dominating for a while but Chinese teams do get close to winning. Let's see how the tournament progresses. I still think its gonna be Gamin Gladiators winning it at the end of it all.

[dothebeats]

I'm so happy when I see GG losing games in Dota2 because personally I got tired of watching them winning last year and there are so many other skilled players and great teams who deserve a chance to win trophies as well. .

If they really are that dominant then it's understandable that they will be unbeatable for quite some time. Their meta and strategies are working pretty well, hence the dominance against other teams who are equally strong. GG's dominance is attributed to their weird plays and lineups, hence why other teams can't figure them out most of the time.

[ralle14]

When it comes to NaVi I see s1mple being benched. Do you know what the reason is for his decision? They still look decent even without him after transferring w0nderful from Sprout to fill s1mple's space. I can't say they have the youngest lineup maybe but the experience level looks really solid. 

This HLTV link mentioned that his sudden break was about documents and wanting to move to another role.

I guess the transition of sniping from CSGO to CS2 isn't as easy because i've heard that the other pros also mentioned that they're still having a hard time adjusting.

While on the group B, the two seemingly about to get eliminated teams are;

• nouns
• OG

Although there's a potential to get into four tie but I don't think that it will be.

I agree those two should most likely be eliminated when they're up against the two best teams in their group and possibly throughout the tournament.

[emrecemsan]

This HLTV link mentioned that his sudden break was about documents and wanting to move to another role.

I guess the transition of sniping from CSGO to CS2 isn't as easy because i've heard that the other pros also mentioned that they're still having a hard time adjusting.

Thank you for sharing the news about him. It is even talking about s1mple to switch his role. It is quite interesting to hear about because I have known him as an AWPer for many years. I mean that I have been watching his live streams as well and I know how good he is at using auto rifles too. But switching to a completely different role still needs hard work to adapt fully.

CS2 is indeed hard to get completely used to it as it has some significant differences than CS:GO. I assume some bugs are also still seen sometimes. A new CS game always requires a long time to be near perfect. 

[CODE200]

I'm so happy when I see GG losing games in Dota2 because personally I got tired of watching them winning last year and there are so many other skilled players and great teams who deserve a chance to win trophies as well. .

Wow what a hater, they're a pretty good team though, I feel like your relief of them losing stems from something personal, did you lose something big on betting on their team or against their team? Yes there are many skilled players that deserve the chance but if they are skilled enough then they would be able to dominate the league or get past GG if you feel like they're the gatekeepers and in the same vein, they're quite skilled because they dominate albeit they just came second last TI. If you got tired of watching them then why not look at other matches, I'm sure that there are other matches going on besides them at the same time right?

[arallmuus]

• Aurora

So the ex-talon players cant seems to do shit with their pos 2 huh. I thought they would be much better this year

Although there's a potential to get into four tie but I don't think that it will be.

Kinda doubt that this will happen. If OG lose horribly against Betboom, Ar and XG then I kinda doubt that they could do anything against Team Spirit. Og needs to win 2-0 against Team Spirit to make it into a tiebreaker with Betboom and AR so thats not going to happen. Technically speaking, it wont really matter if Team spirit gets the 2nd or 3rd place on Group B but it feels dumb if they actually lose against OG

[ILuckyGuyI]

I'm also following IEM Katowice lately and the current look of the bracket is like in the image below:


_{The source: HLTV}

Falcons surprised me a lot honestly. After being beaten by Eternal Fire they had to come a long way. Rebels weren't a challenging competitor. But first beating Complexity and doing the same against even Natus Vincere in lower final were really great work by Falcons.    Tomorrow they are facing ENCE, what do you expect from this series?  

Snappi, Magisk and SunPayus are the players I know closely at Falcons by the way. They've quite decent players. For example SunPayus must be one of the numbered really good Spanish CS e-sports players.

[vennali]

Dota 2: OG needed to win 2-0 against Team Spirit to keep their tournament dream alive and managed to grind out game 1 win in an over 60 min game which they dominated earlier on but it's very tricky to play against Team Spirit. Game 2 starts with OG taking the lead again and if they win, they get into a tiebreaker with BetBoom for the 4th spot. However, the game 2 lead didn't go as planned. No team has beaten Team Spirit 2-0 in a long long time and it didn't happen today either. OG are out of the tournament and from group B: Xtreme, Azure, Spirit and BetBoom go through.

[Mahanton]

Dota 2: OG needed to win 2-0 against Team Spirit to keep their tournament dream alive and managed to grind out game 1 win in an over 60 min game which they dominated earlier on but it's very tricky to play against Team Spirit. Game 2 starts with OG taking the lead again and if they win, they get into a tiebreaker with BetBoom for the 4th spot. However, the game 2 lead didn't go as planned. No team has beaten Team Spirit 2-0 in a long long time and it didn't happen today either. OG are out of the tournament and from group B: Xtreme, Azure, Spirit and BetBoom go through.

So they've secured those upper bracket quarterfinals on which i dont really have doubts with Team spirit specially with Yatoro.
Im not really that underestimating the current roster of OG now but the only roster that i do consider to be the best would always be that former one. Well, time changes and those switch ups are inevitable.

Now they would really be needing to wait on who would they be able to match up on upper bracket. Hope those teams wont be able to get in line with GG. 
Well, even on LGD then it wouldnt really be that easy path to take. Really interesting i should say.