🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[arallmuus]

So any thoughts on the first 4 playoff round of 16?

I also like those four teams to advance, but i'm more confident on Faze and BetBoom. The odds on G2 and VP are too low, it's too risky when these two recently lost to weaker teams.

So in the end it was Betboom that ended up not making it to the next round. I thought it would be easy 4/4 obviously favourites would win but yeah Betboom literally sucker punch me lol. Im probably gonna do another parlay for the next 4 games trying to hit another 4/4. G2, VP, Team Liquid and probably Faze Clan again. Navi seems promising though but I got burned on the last one for not sticking with Faze Clan so I'll probably gonna stick with them on the next game

[ralle14]

So in the end it was Betboom that ended up not making it to the next round. I thought it would be easy 4/4 obviously favourites would win but yeah Betboom literally sucker punch me lol. Im probably gonna do another parlay for the next 4 games trying to hit another 4/4. G2, VP, Team Liquid and probably Faze Clan again. Navi seems promising though but I got burned on the last one for not sticking with Faze Clan so I'll probably gonna stick with them on the next game

I also fell for BetBoom, they're close to 2-0ing FlyQuest once they had the lead in the second half of Mirage, and then it all fell apart.

The Navi vs. Faze rematch might be a toss-up, but I like Faze's chances after Complexity stunned Navi from the group stage.

Regardless of the small odds, the VP and G2 series are the only ones i'll be betting on due to an ESL promotion, and i'm avoiding the Team Liquid series as FlyQuest can force the upset.

[arallmuus]

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I also fell for BetBoom, they're close to 2-0ing FlyQuest once they had the lead in the second half of Mirage, and then it all fell apart.

The Navi vs. Faze rematch might be a toss-up, but I like Faze's chances after Complexity stunned Navi from the group stage.

Regardless of the small odds, the VP and G2 series are the only ones i'll be betting on due to an ESL promotion, and i'm avoiding the Team Liquid series as FlyQuest can force the upset.

This ended up pretty close though. VP was probably 1-2 game away from losing on the 3rd map but they somehow made that crazy comeback. Im not sure how they actually got into that situation lol as I didnt watch everything because of the UCL. Anyway I got my 4/4 and yeah it was a great bet. I cant actually believe that Faze managed to clean up Navi with 2 straight maps lol

[ralle14]

This ended up pretty close though. VP was probably 1-2 game away from losing on the 3rd map but they somehow made that crazy comeback. Im not sure how they actually got into that situation lol as I didnt watch everything because of the UCL. Anyway I got my 4/4 and yeah it was a great bet. I cant actually believe that Faze managed to clean up Navi with 2 straight maps lol

That Ancient CT comeback from VP is wild, I grabbed their live odds in the second half while they were still down 8-11. The Mongolz kept doing force buys that kept VP's economy low enough to be broken in the next buy round, but they're always getting outplayed by VP and failed to get a single one even with a man advantage.

Faze almost threw that second map away from 11-6 to 12-12. Navi did their best to force OT in the second half, but Faze woke up to deny a third map.

[Pulsar77]

The current look of ESL Pro League is like this. 

Complexity really haven't beaten NaVi for nothing. They are still in this fight and have reached the semi finals already. However I don't see their chance high against MOUZ. Bookies also give 1.42 odds for MOUZ win while it is 2.70 for Complexity. However I think Complexity will win 1 map at least. I don't expect them to give up too easily.

What are your thoughts on the other semi finalists?

I'm opting for Astralis @1.32 and FaZe @1.95. FaZe are shown like the underdog by a small margin but I think we will watch them progress. 

[arallmuus]

I'm opting for Astralis @1.32 and FaZe @1.95. FaZe are shown like the underdog by a small margin but I think we will watch them progress. 

Well I wanna stick with Faze but Vitality was pretty impressive so I think Im sticking with Astralis for today as well as Vitality. 1.32 odds for Astralis is actually pretty low, I got them for 1.4 on Roobet so probably on Rollbit as well because both of these two shares the same provider I guess and even their sportsbetting UI are pretty similar to each another



Anyway, best of luck to our bets tonight ! meanwhile Im watching PGL Walachia, no betting at all but only enjoying the game

[Balmain]

I'm opting for Astralis @1.32 and FaZe @1.95. FaZe are shown like the underdog by a small margin but I think we will watch them progress. 

Well I wanna stick with Faze but Vitality was pretty impressive so I think Im sticking with Astralis for today as well as Vitality. 1.32 odds for Astralis is actually pretty low, I got them for 1.4 on Roobet so probably on Rollbit as well because both of these two shares the same provider I guess and even their sportsbetting UI are pretty similar to each another



Anyway, best of luck to our bets tonight ! meanwhile Im watching PGL Walachia, no betting at all but only enjoying the game

In the Vitality - Faze match, I watched the entire Nuke map and came across Zywoo's masterpiece. What kind of awm did he use today lol. While on the ct side, Faze players could not do anything. In the Vertigo map, Zywoo was even better in terms of frag contribution and they won this map as well, so both of your bets were very successful, congratulations. I expect Mouz and Vitality to match in the  grand final.

[passwordnow]

I have mostly missed the first day of the PGL Wallachia Season 1. But let's have some recap, most of the matches were 2-0 except for the match of Azure and Nouns where the Nouns have won but with a 2-1 standing.



And for this round 2, the match of Aurora and Betboom has already started. It seems that we don't have that much attention that are being brought to this tournament, where you at folks?

[arallmuus]

I have mostly missed the first day of the PGL Wallachia Season 1. But let's have some recap, most of the matches were 2-0 except for the match of Azure and Nouns where the Nouns have won but with a 2-1 standing.

Totally cant believe that Nouns could win against AR though, I guess its kinda hit or miss sometimes when you pick the china region team to win. On one game, they would destroy their matchup but on the other game they would just flop so bad

Anyway, Im not sure if any of you guys pay attention to the group stage but we are using bo3 format on group stage which is pretty rare nowadays. Im sick of bo2 group stage, it totally lacks the excitement Im looking for because normally the game gets more intense after games got to 1-1 point so on the 3rd map usually its alot more exciting

[Balmain]

As I predicted, Vitality beat Astralis in the semi-finals and now they are in the grand finals. There will be a match between MOUZ and Vitality in the final of ESL Pro League season 19. Definitely Vitality wasn't comfortable Astralis won the Mirage map and it wasn't even the map they chose. Vitality equalized the score in overtime at Vertigo. There was Astralis who started the Inferno map very well on T side. It was surprising when they started so well, but they could not maintain it in Inferno and they lost, as I said, Astralis pushed Vitality very hard.

[emrecemsan]

Today is the day for the grand final in the ESL Pro League! 

The odds are showing Vitality as the clear favourite. It is 1.35 against 2.90. MOUZ have even bigger odds on some websites like 3.00. I don't think it will be 2-0. I hope to see some competition but a Vitality win by 2-1.

However I don't want to just bet on Vitality win. I want to go for some surprise here. MOUZ have really attracting odds.    It looks worth giving a chance. The worst case scenario, I would watch the series more excitedly.

Congrats on your win mate.    It was really difficult to make a choice between FaZe and Vitality. But it was too easy for Vitality unexpectedly. There wasn't a proper challenge.

[ralle14]

With only the PGL Wallachia matches scheduled for today, here's my parlay (@2.62) for the next two series. Playing it safe with Team Liquid ML, they should beat the weakest EU team in this tournament within two maps, but you never know with Team Liquid's experimental drafts. Then the value pick on Team Secret because VP isn't performing any better and their odds might've been inflated after that 2-0 sweep against Heroic.

[boyptc]

With only the PGL Wallachia matches scheduled for today, here's my parlay (@2.62) for the next two series. Playing it safe with Team Liquid ML, they should beat the weakest EU team in this tournament within two maps, but you never know with Team Liquid's experimental drafts. Then the value pick on Team Secret because VP isn't performing any better and their odds might've been inflated after that 2-0 sweep against Heroic.

Good luck. Team Liquid already took the first map.

The 2nd map is in and it seems that this is a close fight as I am watching it right now. Both teams are in danger of getting eliminated for this group stages and rounds.

That's why they badly need to fight for it as they have no choice if they want to continue.

[passwordnow]

I have mostly missed the first day of the PGL Wallachia Season 1. But let's have some recap, most of the matches were 2-0 except for the match of Azure and Nouns where the Nouns have won but with a 2-1 standing.

Totally cant believe that Nouns could win against AR though, I guess its kinda hit or miss sometimes when you pick the china region team to win. On one game, they would destroy their matchup but on the other game they would just flop so bad

Well, it doesn't matter anymore now because both of them got eliminated already. I am not enjoying this PGL Wallachia to be honest because games are too quick and this group stages is a bit of hasty. But that's how the format goes and they've got 1.1 and 2.2 but they're still in for the remaining rounds of this group stages.

Anyway, Im not sure if any of you guys pay attention to the group stage but we are using bo3 format on group stage which is pretty rare nowadays. Im sick of bo2 group stage, it totally lacks the excitement Im looking for because normally the game gets more intense after games got to 1-1 point so on the 3rd map usually its alot more exciting

I wouldn't say that this is actually rare but we've been used to the best of 2 format every group stage or first round format. I think this is a quicker way to eliminate half of the participating teams and as they organize this, they're doing something that's not common although, this isn't new at all. Points system is what best of 2 does but this best of 3 really just shows who wins the series and not.

[ralle14]

Team Secret got it done, but it was so sloppy that they almost lost it in the late game despite having mega creeps. VP nearly pulled off that game-ending backdoor, but Team Secret's Lifestealer was quick with the infest disarm on Lina.

Today, i'll go with Aurora to beat Shopify Rebellion, my main reasoning here is because of their matches against BetBoom, I know Shopify did look great during their win against Team Liquid, but there are still limits on the type of drafts they can roll with their stand-ins.

[passwordnow]

Team Secret got it done, but it was so sloppy that they almost lost it in the late game despite having mega creeps. VP nearly pulled off that game-ending backdoor, but Team Secret's Lifestealer was quick with the infest disarm on Lina.

That was actually a crazy game indeed 3 STR heroes for Team Secret, I thought that VP will have a comeback after winning that clash in their bottom barracks killing 4 heroes except DK. Still, they don't have enough physical and magical damage against these tough heroes.

Today, i'll go with Aurora to beat Shopify Rebellion, my main reasoning here is because of their matches against BetBoom, I know Shopify did look great during their win against Team Liquid, but there are still limits on the type of drafts they can roll with their stand-ins.

Congratulations, Aurora just beaten Shopify Rebellion for 2-0. Their 2nd map with Arturos sven, it doesn't make sense and don't have enough damage at all. They shouldn't pick sven anymore with this kind of performance. Speaking of Shopify Rebellion, they've welcomed skem for their next dreamleague season: Skem joins Shopify Rebellion’s Dota 2 roster

[arallmuus]

Today, i'll go with Aurora to beat Shopify Rebellion, my main reasoning here is because of their matches against BetBoom, I know Shopify did look great during their win against Team Liquid, but there are still limits on the type of drafts they can roll with their stand-ins.

Heck yeah, grats on winning this and thats a very reasonable reasoning you have there. I would have jumped in on SR to win though, Im glad I skipped this one after I read your post lol. I might be abit biased whenever there are Nigma's player in it, totally would love them to win because Im a sucker for them especially Miracle and GH lol

3 spots left for 3 teams tomorrow. Im totally digging SR, Team Liquid and BetBoom on my parlay tomorrow

[ralle14]

Heck yeah, grats on winning this and thats a very reasonable reasoning you have there. I would have jumped in on SR to win though, Im glad I skipped this one after I read your post lol. I might be abit biased whenever there are Nigma's player in it, totally would love them to win because Im a sucker for them especially Miracle and GH lol

3 spots left for 3 teams tomorrow. Im totally digging SR, Team Liquid and BetBoom on my parlay tomorrow

Thanks, I was also initially leaning on SR because having Sumail is always a plus for their team, but there's still GH and they've always struggled without his Tusk.

I'm only rolling with Team Liquid to sweep Team Secret, they're better overall with the team fights and the individual players. Team Secret can still get a map but Team Liquid's wins so far have been only 2-0s.



BOL on your three-legged parlay, SR could disappoint out of the three teams you picked, but I still think they'll push through.

Edit: Just when I cashed out my bet they started winning the first map and Team Secret crumbled from that one mistake. 🤦‍♂️

[emrecemsan]

I couldn't catch up with the ESL Pro League grand final so I watched the final series late.

And we have a winner, MOUZ! 



However the map results were horrible for Vitality. I don't know how they managed to play this poorly after all that effort until reaching this stage...



By this huge victory, MOUZ have captured a place for the IEM Cologne tournament on this August. Even if Vitality don't manage to win the IEM Dallas they would easily join the IEM Cologne thanks to their ESL ranking so no need to worry for them. But still they should have been more competitive in the final series here. 

[ralle14]

However the map results were horrible for Vitality. I don't know how they managed to play this poorly after all that effort until reaching this stage...

By this huge victory, MOUZ have captured a place for the IEM Cologne tournament on this August. Even if Vitality don't manage to win the IEM Dallas they would easily join the IEM Cologne thanks to their ESL ranking so no need to worry for them. But still they should have been more competitive in the final series here. 

Vitality had an off day while MOUZ is just clicking more than usual, always dominating the first half to not allow Vitality to recover in the second half.

Currently, they're playing in BetBoom Dacha Belgrade and might win another tournament since their form isn't slowing down as they already qualified for the playoffs and Team Spirit is the only strong team in the other group.