🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[passwordnow]

My duration bet has lost for the map 1 of Team Falcons and Team Liquid. Dude, my durating bet is over 34 minutes and Team Falcons was wiped out on 30:50. So close!!!!! if the score isn't that 5-31. 5 kills for Team Falcons and 31 for Team Liquid, I don't think they'd call that early.

Lucky me, won this only bet for this day although the odd isn't a lot but I'd take the W.  

I also had a ticket on Gaimin Gladiators and they saved me from going winless.

After that beatdown from Gaimin Gladiators, i'll gladly take Team Falcons to beat Team Liquid in the lower bracket final. If Team Liquid can't get a map against Gaimin Gladiators yesterday regardless of the good heroes they've drafted, I don't see them bouncing back in this series to set a rematch in the final.

I also bet Team Falcons. The first game goes to Team Liquid. 1 more and they'd go to the finals and we lose our bet but if the second game will be won by Team Falcons, I guess that they'd be able to put this series in favor of them. That game 1 morphling support of boxi was dope.

[len01]

It’s not depending on the total kills for the odds to raise on a bet related to map win count. It’s always based to the gold advantage of the team since there’s a scenario that a team with high kill count is behind in terms of gold or just breakeven since they are just killing supports while the carry can farm freely without any kills.

Your explanation is very accurate and it makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry I may have been wrong but I think the number of kills also affect the bookmakers to Increase or decrease the odds.

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Watching Liquid is very painful because 33 not performing well which Liquid has high expectation to the space he should create but it turns out that his lane is always the weakest and needs frequent visit since dyrcho keeps dominating him badly. If 33 performs better, Liquid has better chance to get at least 1 map. GG is indeed the achilles heel of Liquid in every tournament. They can’t past this team no matter what they do.

Same with Quest to Falcons. This team’s game play is a natural counter. Lol

I can barely think of how TL can be defeated by GG without being able to give resistance to at least one map. IMO, TL mistake was in laning which was not optimal, but choosing the wrong hero made TL feel uncomfortable.

My duration bet has lost for the map 1 of Team Falcons and Team Liquid. Dude, my durating bet is over 34 minutes and Team Falcons was wiped out on 30:50. So close!!!!! if the score isn't that 5-31. 5 kills for Team Falcons and 31 for Team Liquid, I don't think they'd call that early.

Falcons are very bad on map 1 because the hero used will probably not be able to give longer resistance and even total kill is very different far.

Honestly I have a strong prediction TL will win this game on map 3. 


It's fucking almost a bet I lost on map 1 while I was on my way home and rushed to place a bet. I should've chosen MegaCreep No but I'm wrong to placed Benyond Godlike.  
But lucky that TL finished the game quickly.

I hope at least on map 2 the Falcons can give a resistance on map 2, if they want to get to the finals.

[passwordnow]

My duration bet has lost for the map 1 of Team Falcons and Team Liquid. Dude, my durating bet is over 34 minutes and Team Falcons was wiped out on 30:50. So close!!!!! if the score isn't that 5-31. 5 kills for Team Falcons and 31 for Team Liquid, I don't think they'd call that early.

Falcons are very bad on map 1 because the hero used will probably not be able to give longer resistance and even total kill is very different far.

Honestly I have a strong prediction TL will win this game on map 3.  

Oh my Falcons, terrible game 1 and 2. If they're just able to make that duration 34 minutes over on map 1, I won't be disappointment even if I've lost the match winner's bet. The game is more than 34 minutes on map 2. I guess that we're seeing an ammar nerf on this patch.


Because I am impressed with Team Liquid's performance, I have bet on them to win at least 1 map. And still, I'd go with their kryptonite for the match winner - GG.



Just give me some W! this is it for the grand finals.

[Beparanf]

Oh my Falcons, terrible game 1 and 2. If they're just able to make that duration 34 minutes over on map 1, I won't be disappointment even if I've lost the match winner's bet. The game is more than 34 minutes on map 2. I guess that we're seeing an ammar nerf on this patch.


Because I am impressed with Team Liquid's performance, I have bet on them to win at least 1 map. And still, I'd go with their kryptonite for the match winner - GG.



Just give me some W! this is it for the grand finals.

Ammar is completely shutdown on this game even if he pick his comfortable hero. Also Malrine is totally outplayed by Nisha on mid games that makes Falcon so bad on early game. Falcon is just strong if ATF and Malrine can create space for skiter which didn’t happened on both match.

Team Liquid is so strong from early to finish the game. Boxi has an insane game too especially with his Morph support. I think Liquid can beat GG if their support can perform like what they did on Falcon.

[Coin_trader]

It’s not depending on the total kills for the odds to raise on a bet related to map win count. It’s always based to the gold advantage of the team since there’s a scenario that a team with high kill count is behind in terms of gold or just breakeven since they are just killing supports while the carry can farm freely without any kills.

Your explanation is very accurate and it makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry I may have been wrong but I think the number of kills also affect the bookmakers to Increase or decrease the odds.

No need to say sorry bro. It’s just a friendly discussion. We are all just stating our opinion here and we aim to help each other to broaden our gambling knowledge for better profitability.

Total kills is being considered too. That’s correct but bookie highly considered net worth lead over total kills on determining winning probability. But it’s really a case to case basis depending on the actual condition in the map because a hero like meepo and alche can give an early gold lead but that doesn’t mean they are winning the game.

[ralle14]

I'm also siding with Gaimin Gladiators in this grand finals, but I will go for their map handicap to push the odds slightly higher.

I'd still assume Team Liquid will struggle against Gaimin Gladiators and I don't think the momentum from their win against Team Falcons would change the outcome of this series.

[Trofo]

Team Liquid always screwing with my predictions. They won way yo cleanly against Falcons today. I could maybe see them win but no way 2:0. Now they will just gift the title to GG.

[Wapfika]

Team Liquid always screwing with my predictions. They won way yo cleanly against Falcons today. I could maybe see them win but no way 2:0. Now they will just gift the title to GG.

Their current pick is so unorthodox. GG can overwhelm them due to the massive summon while their only counter is Tidehunter which is not sufficient. They don’t have follow up damage after the ravage.

I’m still aiming for Liquid here if Boxi can do the same impressive game using morph since he can be source for another follow damage in the late game. I’m wondering how MK will play this out against broodmother with web all over the place.

Edit:

Liquid picks backfire. Tidehunter is proven useless.

[Trofo]

Team Liquid always screwing with my predictions. They won way yo cleanly against Falcons today. I could maybe see them win but no way 2:0. Now they will just gift the title to GG.

Their current pick is so unorthodox. GG can overwhelm them due to the massive summon while their only counter is Tidehunter which is not sufficient. They don’t have follow up damage after the ravage.

I’m still aiming for Liquid here if Boxi can do the same impressive game using morph since he can be source for another follow damage in the late game. I’m wondering how MK will play this out against broodmother with web all over the place.

Edit:

Liquid picks backfire. Tidehunter is proven useless.

At this point GG are firmly into Liquid's head. You can't play DOTA when you are constantly second guessing yourself and then going off the grid in drafts hoping to gain some advantage.

3:0 incoming...

[emrecemsan]

I totally forgot about Esports World Cup.    We have already reached the grand final seemingly.


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The grand final between NaVi and G2 is played with the classic format, BO3. The first map is the choice of G2 and they are killing it already.    Nuke is the 2nd map and Inferno is there as the decider.

I even see the changes in G2 roster new. HooXi is benched and nexa already left. malbsMd and Snax are new replacements. Snax is still playing?    I mean he is 31 now.

Let's see who wins the big prize - $400k. I feel like NaVi will come back.

[arallmuus]

I'm also siding with Gaimin Gladiators in this grand finals, but I will go for their map handicap to push the odds slightly higher.

I'd still assume Team Liquid will struggle against Gaimin Gladiators and I don't think the momentum from their win against Team Falcons would change the outcome of this series.

So GG is officially back in the game huh. I was expecting today to be abit tight that why I bet on over 2.5 maps on Liquid - Falcons but oh dang Liquid won 2-0 straight. Good thing that I actually didnt bet on GG - Liquid, otherwise I would have gone for Team Liquid as the winner.

Abit dissapointed that the game wasnt as intense as I expected it to be. Liquid should have win atleast 1 map there to keep up with the tension but oh well, I always feel dissapointed when grand final games ended with only 3 maps

[passwordnow]

Oh my Falcons, terrible game 1 and 2. If they're just able to make that duration 34 minutes over on map 1, I won't be disappointment even if I've lost the match winner's bet. The game is more than 34 minutes on map 2. I guess that we're seeing an ammar nerf on this patch.


Because I am impressed with Team Liquid's performance, I have bet on them to win at least 1 map. And still, I'd go with their kryptonite for the match winner - GG.



Just give me some W! this is it for the grand finals.

Ammar is completely shutdown on this game even if he pick his comfortable hero. Also Malrine is totally outplayed by Nisha on mid games that makes Falcon so bad on early game. Falcon is just strong if ATF and Malrine can create space for skiter which didn’t happened on both match.

Team Liquid is so strong from early to finish the game. Boxi has an insane game too especially with his Morph support. I think Liquid can beat GG if their support can perform like what they did on Falcon.

His best hero - Timbersaw and LC did nothing to those games. I thought that they'll be the one to go in the grand finals but it was Team Liquid. And then, we saw on how Gaimin Gladiators swept Team Liquid. As usual, GG is the kryptonite of Team Liquid. Props to Team Liquid though, they've been through a lot in this tournament and all of the other teams. Until next big tournament again for which 3-4 days from now, we'll be having the Elite League Season 2 and that's a LAN tournament which will be held in Lima.

I've won the match winner bet but not the at least 1 map for Team Liquid. 

[ralle14]

So GG is officially back in the game huh. I was expecting today to be abit tight that why I bet on over 2.5 maps on Liquid - Falcons but oh dang Liquid won 2-0 straight. Good thing that I actually didnt bet on GG - Liquid, otherwise I would have gone for Team Liquid as the winner.

Abit dissapointed that the game wasnt as intense as I expected it to be. Liquid should have win atleast 1 map there to keep up with the tension but oh well, I always feel dissapointed when grand final games ended with only 3 maps

This meta is so good for them with the deadly snowball lineups like the Broodmother and Beastmaster cores we saw from the first game and the other series they've played.

Team Liquid tried to ban some of those heroes (Enchantress, Chen, Broodmother) in the next maps and it was still not enough, they had too many options to fall back on.

I was also hoping to see the series at least reach four maps, but Team Liquid was probably demoralized after losing the first two maps as it was all Gaimin Gladiators.

[Coin_trader]

This meta is so good for them with the deadly snowball lineups like the Broodmother and Beastmaster cores we saw from the first game and the other series they've played.

Team Liquid tried to ban some of those heroes (Enchantress, Chen, Broodmother) in the next maps and it was still not enough, they had too many options to fall back on.

I was also hoping to see the series at least reach four maps, but Team Liquid was probably demoralized after losing the first two maps as it was all Gaimin Gladiators.

The problem on Liquid is they are just picking based on the GG pick which they are always ended up with bad drop since there’s no synergy on their pick on team fights. Main proof is they never won a full team fight against GG since their pick is just good for single hero counter but no team fight advantage.

GG has a total control against them by the use of psychological strategy. Liquid and GG is like Quest and Falcon which the inferior team always play based on the stronger team plan. They are easily swayed while GG is doing their normal dominating play.

[len01]

like meepo and alche can give an early gold lead but that doesn’t mean they are winning the game.

Looks like it's true what you're saying that doesn't guarantee a win, but at least gold can give the team a chance to get the item faster and make a comeback.

I the past, I remember the Alche hero to be used often and the first item bought Hand of Midas gave farming speed faster.



The rest of yesterday's bet made me a little disappointed when I had to fall asleep watching the game and miss the 3rd map. The appearance of TL makes me very sleepy.




While waiting for the IT game in September, I'd like to try to bet on CS2. But honestly I have to learn to understand some teams and some players because I haven't watched and played this game for a long time.
So can anyone recommend me the CS2 competition that you're usually betting on?

[Coin_trader]

like meepo and alche can give an early gold lead but that doesn’t mean they are winning the game.

Looks like it's true what you're saying that doesn't guarantee a win, but at least gold can give the team a chance to get the item faster and make a comeback.

I the past, I remember the Alche hero to be used often and the first item bought Hand of Midas gave farming speed faster.

Midas is too greedy item for alce these days since a fight usually doesn’t go late game while alce usually take advantage his 1 to 2 items ahead against enemy team carry due to his farming capability. Building Midas in early will delay some core item for him that is essential for his early online for a team fight.

I think Midas is only applicable if he suffer a bad lane and wants to recover while his team can still create space for him. But alce winning a lane or have a breakeven lane can still farm quick ahead any enemy carry.

[ralle14]

While waiting for the IT game in September, I'd like to try to bet on CS2. But honestly I have to learn to understand some teams and some players because I haven't watched and played this game for a long time.
So can anyone recommend me the CS2 competition that you're usually betting on?

Next week there's a Blast Premier tournament, it's one of the few recurring CS2 tournaments worth following since it's like the EPT equivalent in CS2. After that, you have IEM Cologne next and it's a much bigger tournament with teams fighting for more circuit points and the tournament winner qualifies for the World Finals.

Even though Riyadh Masters just ended, we have Elite League to look forward to, and the same as last time they'll go through the Swiss stage, so at least we don't have to deal with another set of matches ending on draws.

[criptoevangelista]

Did any of you follow this year's EVO? I watched the game Street Fighter 6, it was a very good final, the player "Punk" took the title playing with Cammy, who I consider one of the strongest characters in this game, Punk now becomes one of the legends who managed to win the most difficult championship from the world of fighting games.

[passwordnow]

like meepo and alche can give an early gold lead but that doesn’t mean they are winning the game.

Looks like it's true what you're saying that doesn't guarantee a win, but at least gold can give the team a chance to get the item faster and make a comeback.

That only gives advantage and the game's result will still depend on the performance of the team.

I the past, I remember the Alche hero to be used often and the first item bought Hand of Midas gave farming speed faster.

That's odd even in pub games and that's because he already has third skill of goblin's/greevils greed. Anyway, that's really gonna give the player more gold if he's just gonna farm but it won't happen in a pro game.


I just saw the news about Cloud 9 has came back to Dota 2 and they've taken the roster of Entity. I guess there's a huge buy out from them, Entity organization made money a lot from this roster.
News: Cloud9 signs Entity Gaming's Dota 2 roster

[Wapfika]

I just saw the news about Cloud 9 has came back to Dota 2 and they've taken the roster of Entity. I guess there's a huge buy out from them, Entity organization made money a lot from this roster.
News: Cloud9 signs Entity Gaming's Dota 2 roster

You forgot to mention the most important part which is BC.Game is part of the Cloud9 partnership which is one of the casino with ANN thread and Signature campaign here.

Cloud9 is one the old team I keep watching when I’m still new on Dota2 way back when Chinese Dota is still strong that can compete against western teams in the TI. But way back then, I don’t see Cloud9 being on the top spot (Correct me if I’m wrong).

It’s a great move to acquire Entity line-up since they have a potential to scale up like Team Spirit.