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After killing profits with huge premiums now the only move is to get back to business by dismantling the GBTC product and create what is going to be an obvious ETF. Good and bad: good since their experience with GBTC might speed up the process, bad because it is Grayscale ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This confirms my initial thought as they do not care about bitcoin unless under it is seen through the lens of a product. Anyway, if they pave the road to ETFs that is okay.
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July 19, 2021, 04:04:06 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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This confirms my initial thought as they do not care about bitcoin unless under it is seen through the lens of a product.
Old news. We are in an unregulated market, and the price discovery of bitcoin is far from completed. As it is an unregulated market everyone is trying his best to profit from bitcoin. Grayscale manipulating the market to keep their funds afloat at the expenses of their very own customers. So, of course they don’t care about bitcoin, in any different way than a conveyor belt of users, and profits, on their pockets. And are getting increasingly efficient at this.
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The market does not really seem to care. I guess now the only thing that could spice up things a little bit is to have this damned ETF available and approved by th Security and Exchange Commission. I cannot believe we still need this to get a spike up but hopefully that is going to be a trigger for the next wave of institutional money inflow.
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July 21, 2021, 11:12:39 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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After killing profits with huge premiums now the only move is to get back to business by dismantling the GBTC product and create what is going to be an obvious ETF. Good and bad: good since their experience with GBTC might speed up the process, bad because it is Grayscale ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This confirms my initial thought as they do not care about bitcoin unless under it is seen through the lens of a product. Grayscale has always taken the approach of a business and thus through the lens of a product rather than caring much about BTC per se. Anyway, if they pave the road to ETFs that is okay.
The only reason for ETFs integration is also for the same reason of not missing out on potential customers and profit, while these are of course actions to improve their business, at the end of the day id does provide the mutual benefit for ETFs adoption which as of not it is a big step!
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July 21, 2021, 12:47:09 PM Last edit: May 15, 2023, 11:26:47 PM by fillippone Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I am travelling right now and I have scarce access to my spreadsheets here, so I am posting this image that should contain same data: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F16%2Fblob3605c9a3a0ddd66b.jpeg&t=665&c=G097QVid5A2GVg) A large amount of unlocks just happened. Did we have huge impacts on the price? I don’t think so. There were a lot of chatter about these unlocks, but I am afraid there also were a lot of misconceptions (I hope I clarified on my previous posts) about these kind of trades.
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July 21, 2021, 03:19:16 PM |
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There were a lot of chatter about these unlocks, but I am afraid there also were a lot of misconceptions (I hope I clarified on my previous posts) about these kind of trades.
I think we have witnessed one more in a series of attempts to bring down the price and keep it below $30k, and this time Grayscale was used as a FUD - literally in all media that mean something to crypto, but also to ordinary local newspapers. Unfortunately, people react to this kind of news without even being aware of what it is about - but now it seems that all attention is focused on the event of the month, as if the fate of Bitcoin depends on what Mr. Mars tonight says ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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UPD. And one more piece of news was brought up. JPMorgan is now giving its clients access to Grayscale. The bank's clients have access to funds Bitcoin Trust, Bitcoin CTrash Trust, Ethereum Trust, Ethereum Classic Trust.
I know that Grayscale is just another predator that hunts its prey (profit), but they didn't have to be so greedy to give their clients the opportunity to invest in various shitcoins - because that only gives them credibility in the crypto market and even more naive investors will fall into the same trap. When I take a closer look, I see that there are some more coins/tokens that I did not expect to see in their offer. Does anyone know if this works on the principle "who pay will be included in the offer" or does GS have experts who make such decisions? https://grayscale.com/products/
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Michael Sonnenshein speaking for the first time as CEO of Grayscale Investments posted an investor letter where he reveals the essence and commitment of the Grayscale Fund to the mission of responsible growth. https://grayscale.com/2021-ceo-midyear-investor-letter/To grow responsibly is to acknowledge that our organization needs to have the right policies and procedures in place to ensure we scale thoughtfully. The c-suite executives that have recently joined Grayscale’s leadership team — many from traditional financial services backgrounds with a deep understanding and appreciation for legal and compliance requirements — are working to ensure that responsible growth policies and procedures underscore every part of our business operations.
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July 23, 2021, 03:10:18 PM |
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ARK Investment said they bought 140 000 shares Grayscale Bitcoin Trust at $25 each.
When I hear those statement i walkways wonder how and why they bought Greyscale. The only valid reason to buy GBTC is doing is against selling the future, locking in the negative premium. I know ARK investments shouldn’t have any problem holding BTC, that is for sure a superior choice. So, please, Katie, let us know your OI on future positions.
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This article is simply awesome! This article is worth learning. Although there are many things that I didn't understand when I first read them, I still need to think about it. This article is very useful to all of us. Because there is a high premium between the GBTC price in the secondary market and Grayscale's official GBTC price. This is why institutional investors buy in large quantities. The difference in interest rates is the real reason for the influx of funds. Although the explanation of this article is very simple, but the content is quite large, it still takes time to understand.
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July 24, 2021, 03:52:32 PM |
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Oh thought that the GBTC premium was supposed to be narrowing, recently; however according to that chart the premium has stayed pretty flat and does not seem to have narrowed - --- from eyeballing it, the data therein may only go to the end of June-ish.. I am not sure...
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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Grayscale launches DeFi fund Fund allocation below: Uniswap: 50% Aave: 10% Compound: 8% Curve: 7.5% MakerDAO: 6.5% SushiSwap: 5% Synthetix: 4% Yearn: 3% UMA: 3% Bancor: 2%
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