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Author Topic: [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | 1st to activate Segwit & Taproot  (Read 557981 times)
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April 11, 2014, 12:38:05 PM
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Believe GRS uses Groestl-512 not Groestl-256
if exist grs-256 porting to asic why not grs-512?))

Should be possible (not an expert here) but I doubt the numbers you posted above would be valid.

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April 11, 2014, 12:39:55 PM
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Where 750Ti have 7.8 MHash/s ? 2 days ago had half of this results

Not released yet. And we cannot release this open source, so expect a bit of extra time for us to split cpuminer stratum code and mining modules into separate executables in a GPL-compatible way.

We're not going to forfeit the nVidia advantage this time (happened with HeavyCoin, won't happen again).

Why are you so keen on getting advantage on nvidia cards? Surely that can't be good for distribution as most miners don't have nvidia cards?
IMHO everyone should be able to use the same guns.

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April 11, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
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The key feature of Groestlcoin is its good performance on a wide range of platforms and reduced ASIC advantages the algo contains. This  is in part dure to the Grøstl algo's resistance to parallelization.


*cough*  Groestl is a direct AES derivative, using the same S-box but a somewhat bigger state matrix. Perfectly suited for doing an FPGA or ASIC implementation.

Note: We're currently achieving 7.8 MHash/s with an nVidia 750Ti card and 11 MHash/s with a 780Ti.

Be afraid.  nVidia is going to take the cake. Also: stock up on 750 Ti's



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AMD is beaten until next optimization ... but not by far :
my R9 290  : 9mh/s (gpu@1100, can oc more)
my R9 290X : 9.9 mh/s (gpu@1100)
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April 11, 2014, 12:50:13 PM
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what about amd 7970?

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April 11, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
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We're not going to forfeit the nVidia advantage this time (happened with HeavyCoin, won't happen again).
for me heavycoin is big ipo-premine-"cpu-only" scam, and compare with this coin i think is mistake))
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April 11, 2014, 12:54:16 PM
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Imho better Nvidia"s card hashrate is right way to age "after ASIC coming"

It could be a new impuls for mining at GPU card
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April 11, 2014, 12:56:27 PM
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I agree, and I think market does at well. Nice to see price raising nicely without bumps.

There's time for everyone who wants to invest something in it. Usually volume doesn't lie in terms of market interest imho. Happy I started buying at around 800 at start, was way underpriced and still it is IMHO.
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April 11, 2014, 12:57:02 PM
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Why are you so keen on getting advantage on nvidia cards? Surely that can't be good for distribution as most miners don't have nvidia cards?
IMHO everyone should be able to use the same guns.

nVidia hardware has always looked pretty bad (for mining) until December 2013 when scrypt performance of cudaminer finally matched AMD's R290 cards. However high end nVidia GPUs were way too expensive in comparison.

All of this has changed in February only with the inexpensive and power efficient "Maxwell" GTX 750 Ti cards... Why can't we make AMD look bad for a while? We need to make up for years of humiliation Wink

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April 11, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
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Where 750Ti have 7.8 MHash/s ? 2 days ago had half of this results

Not released yet. And we cannot release this open source, so expect a bit of extra time for us to split cpuminer stratum code and mining modules into separate executables in a GPL-compatible way.

We're not going to forfeit the nVidia advantage this time (happened with HeavyCoin, won't happen again).

no open source, no trust imo.
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April 11, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
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Why are you so keen on getting advantage on nvidia cards? Surely that can't be good for distribution as most miners don't have nvidia cards?
IMHO everyone should be able to use the same guns.

nVidia hardware has always looked pretty bad (for mining) until December 2013 when finally scrypt performance of cudaminer finally matched AMD's R290 cards. However high end nVidia GPUs were way too expensive in comparison.

All of this has changed in February only with the inexpensive and power efficient 750Ti cards... Why can't we make AMD look bad for a while? We need to make up for years of humiliation Wink

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Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD, all those coins will end up at just handful of miners and that's a major distribution failure. The mining model is far from perfect for coin distribution and these kind of 'unfair' advantages only make it worse IMHO.
I'm all for miner devs getting their fair fee for their efforts but at some point it's in everyone's best interest to have the same tools to mine.

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April 11, 2014, 01:28:33 PM
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Why are you so keen on getting advantage on nvidia cards? Surely that can't be good for distribution as most miners don't have nvidia cards?
IMHO everyone should be able to use the same guns.

nVidia hardware has always looked pretty bad (for mining) until December 2013 when finally scrypt performance of cudaminer finally matched AMD's R290 cards. However high end nVidia GPUs were way too expensive in comparison.

All of this has changed in February only with the inexpensive and power efficient 750Ti cards... Why can't we make AMD look bad for a while? We need to make up for years of humiliation Wink

Christian

Are you Nvidia fanboy lol?  Grin  People should always buy the best product they can, no matter what brand it is. Buying 750Ti is good idea right now. Who knows what's the best in next autumn?

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April 11, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
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Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD

how is 11 MHash/s (780Ti stock) to 9 MHash/s (R9 290 OC) "much faster".

okay, we're not done with optimization yet, but I think you're overdramatizing this.
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April 11, 2014, 01:33:17 PM
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Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD

how is 11 MHash/s (780Ti stock) to 9 MHash/s (R9 290 OC) "much faster".

okay, we're not done with optimization yet, but I think you're overdramatizing this.

I just don't know what you have cooking for nvidia so I assume the worst, but I agree slight hash differences has no effect in the long run.

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April 11, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
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23/51 alerts on Virus-Total for the CPU miner. Sounds a bit much, usually only 1 or 2

All false-positives I assume?
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April 11, 2014, 01:33:39 PM
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Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD

how is 11 MHash/s (780Ti stock) to 9 MHash/s (R9 290 OC) "much faster".

okay, we're not done with optimization yet, but I think you're overdramatizing this.


AMD radeon 7970?Huh

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April 11, 2014, 01:34:09 PM
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Hi! Are there bounties for translations? In particulary I would be interested to translate the official topic for the italian board.

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April 11, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
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Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD

how is 11 MHash/s (780Ti stock) to 9 MHash/s (R9 290 OC) "much faster".

okay, we're not done with optimization yet, but I think you're overdramatizing this.


AMD radeon 7970?Huh


My settings for 7970: 6.4mh/s

set GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
sgminer -I 20 -g 1 -w 256 -k groestlcoin --no-submit-stale -o stratum+tcp://pool.net:3650 -u userr -p pass --lookup-gap 2 --thread-concurrency 8193

overclock: 1100/1350

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April 11, 2014, 02:19:13 PM
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Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD

how is 11 MHash/s (780Ti stock) to 9 MHash/s (R9 290 OC) "much faster".

okay, we're not done with optimization yet, but I think you're overdramatizing this.


AMD radeon 7970?Huh



7970 you mean config or what ?

Config is up post,
- TC me work 16384 - imho TC is not important in this coin.
- memory try underclock, as you can
- GPU overclock, as you can /// try find optimal ratio hashrate/Watt ///
   = me work 280x /7970/ - undervolt to 1.081 v - 1100 Mhz - 100W - 6.45 Mhash
   = or you can try overvolt and overclock - hashrate up 8 Mhash
- Intensity 20
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April 11, 2014, 02:22:01 PM
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Kids are playing on "The wolf of wallstreet" the exchange...  Roll Eyes
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April 11, 2014, 02:27:48 PM
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Why are you so keen on getting advantage on nvidia cards? Surely that can't be good for distribution as most miners don't have nvidia cards?
IMHO everyone should be able to use the same guns.

nVidia hardware has always looked pretty bad (for mining) until December 2013 when finally scrypt performance of cudaminer finally matched AMD's R290 cards. However high end nVidia GPUs were way too expensive in comparison.

All of this has changed in February only with the inexpensive and power efficient 750Ti cards... Why can't we make AMD look bad for a while? We need to make up for years of humiliation Wink

Christian


Well GPU manufacturers aside, if a coin can be mined much more faster on nvidia cards than AMD, all those coins will end up at just handful of miners and that's a major distribution failure. The mining model is far from perfect for coin distribution and these kind of 'unfair' advantages only make it worse IMHO.
I'm all for miner devs getting their fair fee for their efforts but at some point it's in everyone's best interest to have the same tools to mine.

It's actually good idea to help nVidia cards as much as possible with optimized miners, that will generate more competence between AMD and nVidia and that's good to us, miners.
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