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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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December 19, 2023, 02:47:33 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh

Whatever the strategy is the fact that Manchester United get one point in this match that's the most important thing in a match, Manchester United Understanding them will not be able to fight Liverpool if they play an open game so they have to find ways to anticipate it. we will not compare which team is better because it is clear that we all agree Liverpool are the best but as I say the final result is the most important thing. Manchester United still have 2 tough matches ahead they must prepare themselves so they don't get lost or miss points, maybe this is the reason why Manchester played defensively they don't want to lose points in these 3 matches.

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December 19, 2023, 02:56:17 AM

Whatever the strategy is the fact that Manchester United get one point in this match that's the most important thing in a match, Manchester United Understanding them will not be able to fight Liverpool if they play an open game so they have to find ways to anticipate it. we will not compare which team is better because it is clear that we all agree Liverpool are the best but as I say the final result is the most important thing. Manchester United still have 2 tough matches ahead they must prepare themselves so they don't get lost or miss points, maybe this is the reason why Manchester played defensively they don't want to lose points in these 3 matches.
Full offensive or full defensive strategies is not really important because Manchester United success get one points against Liverpool who more confidence easily defeating United on last match. Seems Liverpool losses three points against Manchester United not only with full defensive of Manchester United games play but also how bad finishing from Liverpool striker, they made 38 shots and have 8 shots of target with not really made Andre Onana have working hard to make many saves. Statistic match Liverpool more dominance than Manchester United have ball possession more than 69% depend with Liverpool have 31% but its not enough to help The Kop for defeating Manchester United as classic and rival match.

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.

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December 19, 2023, 02:56:57 AM

Liverpool didn't expect their match with Manchester United at Anfield would end as a draw match because of Manchester United's low performance this season, and they won Manchester United heavily last season at Anfield.
Manchester United knew that if they came out to attack in that game they were going to lose, thus Ten Hag had to respect Liverpool and set up to defend for most of the game. It was not a bad result for both sides, but Liverpool would be the more disappointing of the two teams, United would be happy with the one point.

Arsenal are back on the summit, five points above the defending champions Manchester City; both Liverpool and Arsenal would know that they cannot write City off and if they want to have a chance of winning the league, they have to pull clear of the City now that they are wobbling. City are still very much in the title race and they remain my favorite candidate for the EPL title.
That is football for you. When you meet a stronger opponent you have to play them with tactics that will help you win the match or go home with a point. Manchester United did not play defensive football all through the second half, which was why Manchester United was able to get a draw at Anfield. Also, Manchester United had an opportunity to take the lead against Liverpool, but Garnacho failed to score.

Liverpool's hope is that they definitely want to win when playing with Manchester United because if they win the match, of course Liverpool will get a lot of points and now Arsenal are leading the standings and this is the result of their struggle against Brighton with a score of 2-0. Now Arsenal has reaped the results of their struggle. so far. Manchester United in terms of defense is very strong against Liverpool. I think Erik Ten Hag succeeded in developing a strategy that made Liverpool unable to break into Manchester United's goal It's definitely a disappointment at this time for Liverpool because their ranking in the standings has dropped to 2nd. But I'm sure Jurgen Klopp is still there time to improve liverpool.

Yes, Manchester City is only 5 points different from Arsenal, yes of course Manchester City could be a candidate this year to become champions this season but of course it is not an easy thing because other teams will also definitely fight to become champions this season.

In my opinion, Erik ten Hag's tactics are very good and indeed getting 1 point is certainly satisfying because the opponent faced by Manchester United is a strong team.

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December 19, 2023, 04:16:28 AM

Full offensive or full defensive strategies is not really important because Manchester United success get one points against Liverpool who more confidence easily defeating United on last match. Seems Liverpool losses three points against Manchester United not only with full defensive of Manchester United games play but also how bad finishing from Liverpool striker, they made 38 shots and have 8 shots of target with not really made Andre Onana have working hard to make many saves. Statistic match Liverpool more dominance than Manchester United have ball possession more than 69% depend with Liverpool have 31% but its not enough to help The Kop for defeating Manchester United as classic and rival match.

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.

You are right, that is another fact but all are interrelated what I mean is Manchester United goalkeeper also plays an important role so we can't fully blame the Liverpool striker that's why I say interrelated. If this match is played at Manchester United home maybe the situation is different  we can see more goals because Manchester will play a different style and strategy. Oh well I can't wait for the next Liverpool match the struggle for top 1 place against Arsenal of course we don't expect Liverpool to play like the last match, Arsenal as the leaders of the standings must be ashamed if playing with bus parking this is not just a struggle for points but there is pride there.

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December 19, 2023, 05:00:34 AM

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.

Man United seem to have better luck with this game. West Ham will play in the EFL Cup on December 21. So West Ham seem to have a more hectic schedule and certainly maybe get tired. Man United should be able to seize this moment. Although they are going to the London Stadium. Holding Liverpool to a draw could also be an addition to mental strength for Man United. But I'm also worried that Man United will always look difficult if they meet a club that is not too strong. I think Ten Hag must get 3 points to be safe with Man United until the end of the season.

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December 19, 2023, 05:08:50 AM

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.
Man United seem to have better luck with this game. West Ham will play in the EFL Cup on December 21. So West Ham seem to have a more hectic schedule and certainly maybe get tired. Man United should be able to seize this moment. Although they are going to the London Stadium. Holding Liverpool to a draw could also be an addition to mental strength for Man United. But I'm also worried that Man United will always look difficult if they meet a club that is not too strong. I think Ten Hag must get 3 points to be safe with Man United until the end of the season.

Despite managing to get 1 point against Liverpool, Manchester United's performance was very poor. They played defensively badly. If Liverpool could have scored a goal, Manchester United would not have been able to make a comeback. It is not always possible to score points by playing defensive tactics. I don't see Manchester United winning against West Ham unless their performance improves. If you want to get 3 points, you have to perform better. And certainly cannot be played with such a defensive strategy. As an opponent, the West Ham team cannot be called too weak.

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December 19, 2023, 05:16:20 AM

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Whatever the strategy is the fact that Manchester United get one point in this match that's the most important thing in a match, Manchester United Understanding them will not be able to fight Liverpool if they play an open game so they have to find ways to anticipate it. we will not compare which team is better because it is clear that we all agree Liverpool are the best but as I say the final result is the most important thing. Manchester United still have 2 tough matches ahead they must prepare themselves so they don't get lost or miss points, maybe this is the reason why Manchester played defensively they don't want to lose points in these 3 matches.
Manchester United success in holding Liverpool to a draw at Anfield left different notes for the two teams. MU success in bringing home a point from Anfield ended Liverpool winning trend at Anfield this season, while a draw at Anfield was the first time MU achieved this season.
As hosts, Liverpool appeared more dominant, but due to MU players playing very disciplinedly, Liverpool had difficulty dismantling MU defense which meant they had to end the game with a draw. Liverpool, who are fighting for the EPL title, must be even more aggressive in the next match, now they have to drop to second place because they are one point behind Arsenal who are in first place.

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December 19, 2023, 05:40:52 AM

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.
Man United seem to have better luck with this game. West Ham will play in the EFL Cup on December 21. So West Ham seem to have a more hectic schedule and certainly maybe get tired. Man United should be able to seize this moment. Although they are going to the London Stadium. Holding Liverpool to a draw could also be an addition to mental strength for Man United. But I'm also worried that Man United will always look difficult if they meet a club that is not too strong. I think Ten Hag must get 3 points to be safe with Man United until the end of the season.

Despite managing to get 1 point against Liverpool, Manchester United's performance was very poor. They played defensively badly. If Liverpool could have scored a goal, Manchester United would not have been able to make a comeback. It is not always possible to score points by playing defensive tactics. I don't see Manchester United winning against West Ham unless their performance improves. If you want to get 3 points, you have to perform better. And certainly cannot be played with such a defensive strategy. As an opponent, the West Ham team cannot be called too weak.
With the way Manchester United is playing the season, I will not say that they had a poor performance against Liverpool because Manchester United has already been performing poorly this season. What do you expect from a club that Copenhagen came from 2 zeros down to beat to play against Liverpool? Manchester United's game against Liverpool on Saturday was one of Erik Ten Hag's best results this season.

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Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
I was disappointed with Liverpool for failing to win that game. Liverpool passed up 34 chances at goal, failed to make use of 69% possession and 12 corners, and made bad decisions when in good positions. I expected them to bury Manchester United as per they haven’t won against any top 7 sides this season. They dominated possession but failed to capitalise on their opportunities during the listless affair, lacking quality in the final third.

I’m not happy with Liverpool's performance. They made Manchester United look like a prime Juventus side. They arrived low on confidence and struggling for form after crashing out of the UCL earlier last week. I wasn't impressed as they survived a potential at drubbing against their fiercest rivals where they had lost 7-0 last season and 5-0 the other season. If they cannot score a struggling Manchester United side, is it Arsenal they hope to beat?

 

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December 19, 2023, 06:01:17 AM

This result is indeed quite good for Manchester United, but that doesn't mean that the Manchester United team played well in this match. In fact, I think all this cannot be separated from a bit of luck for Manchester United because they played a very defensive team game and on the other hand Liverpool were also not in the game. good performance, especially Liverpool's front line which is not working optimally.
They were at the verge of crisis and they needed a draw to avoid a crisis trigger. They succeeded with a very defensive strategy and got one point in a match their attacking power was affected by the absence of their captain Bruno Fernandez. Even with Bruno, they could not do anything better in attacking but without him, their power drops a lot.

Manchester United and Ten Hag can take a breath and prepare for a next match. The coach has a little bit less pressure for his position but he has many things to do if wanting to keep his position.

Seems Liverpool losses three points against Manchester United not only with full defensive of Manchester United games play but also how bad finishing from Liverpool striker, they made 38 shots and have 8 shots of target with not really made Andre Onana have working hard to make many saves. Statistic match Liverpool more dominance than Manchester United have ball possession more than 69% depend with Liverpool have 31% but its not enough to help The Kop for defeating Manchester United as classic and rival match.
Liverpool did not lose three points but they failed to get those three points. Two teams started the match with no points and they have to play, fight to get points from the match. Liverpool deserve to get three points but they failed to find a winning goal so eventually, one point is for each team.

Liverpool are disappointed with 1 point but they must analyze themselves that what made them missing three points after creating many opportunities in the match. Onana made some good saves and mistakes too but Liverpool's players are responsible for this draw.

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December 19, 2023, 06:13:05 AM

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
Overall, of course, the strategy used by Ten Heg in the match against Liverpool does not look like Man United has high honors as a quality club. They formed a defense like an army that was afraid of enemy attacks and from the start had no confidence in winning. Well it's been a bad season for Man United. But I don't want to think that all the players there are bad. But I prefer to blame how the coach at this club is completely unable to bring out the potential of every player in the club. I know Bruno Fernandes is one of the best from the Portuguese national team along with Felix (current Barcelona player). But when Bruno Fernandes played at Man United he really became like a different player. He always makes decisions hesitantly as if full of worry. I don't know how Ten Heg puts pressure on the players on the pitch. But this also happens to almost all Man United players. Rashford, who was very sharp last season, has even become blunt this season. There is clearly something strange about the managerial approach at this club. All the players seemed to be playing under pressure. They really weren't themselves. As for Liverpool, I can't say much about them. One word is enough for them this season. Amazing !
Yes, Erik Ten Hag seems that optimizes strategy keeping the defense tight so that the home clubs is not able to break into Manchester United's defense like last season when they conceded a lot of goals, but yes, at least this strategy can save Manchester United from conceding goal and is able to bring home 1 point and Liverpool I really regret that they were shifted from Arsenal, even though in this match many people hope that Liverpool would be able to embarrass Manchester United because the team condition was not very stable. But in the end  the match ended goalless and this looked boring.

It's true as you said, if Manchester United players seem to play like they're not themselves, they only play according to Erik Ten Hag strategy, but sometimes Erik Ten Hag applies the wrong strategy, causing defeat. Erik Ten Hag is to blame for all of this, he actually not capable but he is too pushy so this will really affect the team performance, it seems impossible for Manchester United to get a top 3 ranking like last season even though they are coached by the same coach but Erik Ten Hag made the wrong player changes this season, especially recruiting players who don't being so useful and throwing away important players, this is what make it difficult for Manchester United to manage their performance.

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December 19, 2023, 06:15:07 AM

Liverpool's hope is that they definitely want to win when playing with Manchester United because if they win the match, of course Liverpool will get a lot of points and now Arsenal are leading the standings and this is the result of their struggle against Brighton with a score of 2-0.
Setting overly high expectations to win against a weak Manchester United somewhat made Liverpool play a bit hurriedly. The eagerness led to poor handling and passing situations for Liverpool. Even the brightest star, Mohamed Salah, had several misplaced passes, being tightly marked by Luke Shaw, and in the first 45 minutes, he only managed a single shot that couldn't beat Andre Onana.

Whatever the strategy is the fact that Manchester United get one point in this match that's the most important thing in a match, Manchester United Understanding them will not be able to fight Liverpool if they play an open game so they have to find ways to anticipate it.
You're right. Manchester United approached the match as the underdog, opting for a defensive strategy. This defensive stance might be the reason why Liverpool struggled. If Manchester United had approached the game with their familiar attacking style with disjointed midfield, it could have been exploited by the opponent, putting immense pressure on their defense.

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December 19, 2023, 06:17:28 AM

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.

Ten hag was very happy with this achievement. At least there was a small progress that is happening with manchester united. This is showing that if manchester united made huge progress caused by liverpool was beating manchester united with 7 goals last season.
Manchester united can also try to surpass manchester city caused by we are still far away from the end of season. It's very good to see that how ten hag was praising the defenders of manchester united by said they did their job so well.
Im also giving applause even though this result is not wanted by so many bettors but MU fans are feeling happy with it. I remember that there were many people mocking MU to get same lose again like last season.

This is a great achievement and at least manchester united has proven in front of so many liverpudlians if this time mu was not the same like when it was playing like shit last season.
This is also the main reason why ten hag was feeling happy during his interview with media.

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Liverpool are disappointed with 1 point but they must analyze themselves that what made them missing three points after creating many opportunities in the match. Onana made some good saves and mistakes too but Liverpool's players are responsible for this draw.

Liverpool played very well in this match. And I would say they deserved the three  points. But Liverpool were unlucky not to score a single goal. When a team has all 10 players  playing the role of defender, it is much more difficult to win against them or score goals. Manchester United's only goal against Liverpool was to draw the match. They make no attempt to attack. Only Liverpool resisted their attacks. Although Manchester United managed to meet their goals, their performance was below average.

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Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.

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Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
It's your decision, but when Thomas Tuchel was offered Bayern last year, he ran. Moreover, he did this despite Nagelsmann's successful career. I'm sure they will find a coach to manage Manchester United. I think Ten Hag should be sent from the team as soon as possible. It is now doing more harm than good to Manchester United.

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December 19, 2023, 06:32:12 AM

Despite managing to get 1 point against Liverpool, Manchester United's performance was very poor. They played defensively badly. If Liverpool could have scored a goal, Manchester United would not have been able to make a comeback. It is not always possible to score points by playing defensive tactics. I don't see Manchester United winning against West Ham unless their performance improves. If you want to get 3 points, you have to perform better. And certainly cannot be played with such a defensive strategy. As an opponent, the West Ham team cannot be called too weak.
Playing defensively is the most appropriate way for Manchester United to avoid two consecutive defeats because they previously lost badly to Bournemouth at Old Trafford and losing again will increase criticism of them and I'm pretty sure what they are showing is not a sign that they are improving because the next match they will still be likely to lose or only get one point.
From the draw against Liverpool where the match ended goalless proves that Manchester United have problems on their front lines and the one point obtained can be said to be a fortune because many Liverpool opportunities failed to be maximized.
Manchester United's last three matches this year are against West Ham, Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest and from these three matches they will likely return to defeat, especially when facing Aston Villa who is in a very good trend in the last five matches, will Ten Haag apply a defensive strategy again? and if so it is like a stupid decision from a coach who is frustrated with the state of his team.

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December 19, 2023, 06:35:04 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh

Whatever the strategy is the fact that Manchester United get one point in this match that's the most important thing in a match, Manchester United Understanding them will not be able to fight Liverpool if they play an open game so they have to find ways to anticipate it. we will not compare which team is better because it is clear that we all agree Liverpool are the best but as I say the final result is the most important thing. Manchester United still have 2 tough matches ahead they must prepare themselves so they don't get lost or miss points, maybe this is the reason why Manchester played defensively they don't want to lose points in these 3 matches.

The draw against liverpool was boosting the mentality from the players. Varana has been showing if he is still worthy enough to be considered as a strong defenders. It's amazing to see united played even better against liverpool but the bad thing if MU was unable winning the game against liverpool.
From what i have seen that if the defensive line of manchester united performed even better compared to the attacking lines of united. Has the problem changed from the defenders to the attackers? I meant the attackers of manchester united looked so garbage.
They were not able turning some golden chances into the goal and i will be blaming hojlund again. This guy is always running without knowing what he shall do. Hojlund is still defending its record to have 0 goal from lots of matches.
Will hojlund defend his record till the end of season? it will be good to see that we will have a new striker that has zero goal till the end of season. Hojlund was obviously overrated striker.
Ten hag is obviously scammed by atalanta. Hojlund was a flop and ten hag shall give a chance to the other striker to play as starting line up. Manchester united can only focus onto the EPL to get UCL spot for upcoming season.

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December 19, 2023, 06:37:01 AM

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Liverpool are disappointed with 1 point but they must analyze themselves that what made them missing three points after creating many opportunities in the match. Onana made some good saves and mistakes too but Liverpool's players are responsible for this draw.

Liverpool played very well in this match. And I would say they deserved the three  points. But Liverpool were unlucky not to score a single goal. When a team has all 10 players  playing the role of defender, it is much more difficult to win against them or score goals. Manchester United's only goal against Liverpool was to draw the match. They make no attempt to attack. Only Liverpool resisted their attacks. Although Manchester United managed to meet their goals, their performance was below average.

The reason why Liverpool couldn't have access to Manchester united easily in their home is because Manchester united coach did his home work to impact some tactics into their goalkeeper Onana which is their major challenge in this season but Onana prove to people by saving many goals not to allow Liverpool to score a single goal through out the match. I believe Liverpool will never forget what happened in this match, because they where coming with the mindset of defeating Manchester united since many teams are taking victory from them, but not knowing that things has changed positively with Manchester united. Despite their performance was below average, but the most important thing in that match they share points in the home of Liverpool.

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December 19, 2023, 06:39:44 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
About half of the season has been played and Manchester United are 7th in the Premier League and out of the Champions League, which is not good for such a big club. If they want to play CL next year then they need to be in the top 4 teams in the league and that currently Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I also think they need to find a new coach quickly and rebuild the team. How longer they wait, more difficult it could be for them to reach their goals.

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