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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 41 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 19 (20.9%)
Arsenal - 24 (26.4%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.1%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.4%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.2%)
Total Voters: 91

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Author Topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025  (Read 771509 times)
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December 18, 2023, 01:54:30 PM

The EPL is always a surprising competition because matches that could have been won ended in a draw. Here, Liverpool is clearly the favorite to win against Manchester United, but it seems that even against their rivals, Manchester United doesn't want to be careless and also pay attention to their back line so they don't concede easily. Even though in the end both teams did not score a single goal in this match, they both played very well. Maybe initially everyone thought that Manchester United would lose badly to Liverpool, but Andre Onana's performance in this match was silenced because he was seen repeatedly making saves when Liverpool had a chance to score.

On the other hand, Manchester United also seemed to be using a bus parking strategy and in fact they realized that was the only thing they could do against Liverpool who were in their best performance. For Manchester United, being able to still get 1 point is a good thing, but for Liverpool this is clearly a loss because they failed to maintain the top position this week and the top position is now occupied by Arsenal.

Previously, I actually had another assumption, in the previous post I said that this match would be tough. and it was proven, both teams were unable to score goals. we are well aware that Liverpool is superior, especially referring to the odds that the bookie gives United at @10.00. that's why, I took the risk to bet on United. I'm not just interested in the odds available, but these two teams have quite a long history. this match also involves the prestige of both parties. unfortunately, Rasmus Hojlund was unable to take advantage of the momentum when facing the Liverpool goalkeeper. In the end, Alisson was able to secure the ball easily. It should have been an important moment for Hojlund and also his first goal.

Talking about the course of this match, Liverpool should be able to beat Man United with the many opportunities they have. Just imagine, there were 34 total shots taken by the Red players. but only 1 was a big chance, even though 8 of them were shots on target. unfortunately, the performance of Manchester United's defensive line players was solid. Plus, Onana was the savior in this match. in fact, he made 8 saves. I'm sure there are many people who lost their bets on this match, whether they chose Liverpool or Over, let alone those who chose United like I did. In fact, United had several opportunities even though their chances were few. However, it is clear that their opportunities are quite threatening. unfortunately, usually when United counterattack, the probability of them scoring a goal is quite high. maybe also because Bruno was absent from this match.  and what is certain is that I also lost in this bet even though I actually had the Under option. well, for me United don't park buses like Mourinho. the problem was, Amrabat wasn't playing well enough. so the ball cannot be flowed properly. Likewise with Garnacho, he underperformed. Antony, didn't do much. On the other hand, Liverpool appeared all out and it was a shame that this match ended with a final score of 0-0.

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December 18, 2023, 01:58:26 PM

Arsenal have managed to get through this week without any losses.They are playing well as a team and have managed to get into plenty of positions against their opponents.I thought Brighton would give them a hard time, but they didn't give them much of a challenge.Arsenal managed to find 26 shots against their opponents and converted 2 of them into goals.It is important for them to continue to maintain their lead because their fans want success now. This season is very competitive and it seems that the struggle will continue until the last week.The points difference is very close and even Aston Villa is in this race.They also won the match against Brentford despite going behind.We can say that Brentford's 10 men in the second half played a role in winning the match.They got 3 points with 2 goals between 77th and 85th minutes in the second half.

 
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December 18, 2023, 02:00:39 PM

What a pleasure to look at such quotes!

Manchester city 2.25

Arsenal 3.45

Liverpool 3.75

Aston Villa 15.00

Tottenham Hotspur 31.00

https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/england/premier-league/43600879-premier-league-23-24

In just three rounds, City's quotes fell from 1.1 to 2.25!  Shocked For a round-robin tournament, I think this is a record for how quickly bookmakers' opinions change.
I said back in the first quarter/third of the season that City had an anomalous calendar - at first all the easy games, then all the difficult ones, and the fact that at the beginning of the season they lost points even with outsiders is a sign that they could fail against strong competitors. And now this scenario has fully come true. Now (even though City are still favorites) these quotes seem adequate to me and I would call this a return to normality from being distorted.

An interesting nuance - after the previous round, Liverpool was in the lead, and Arsenal was behind, but the bookmakers quoted Arsenal as favorites over Liverpool. And literally within a round, the position of the teams became the way the bookmakers see it. Liverpool couldn't beat dead United (it's a pity that they couldn't) and probably destroyed a lot of bets from bettors who expected United's fall to continue. In fact, United's decline continued (33% is not what a team close to the top should score), but they took two important points from Liverpool.

I wonder if West Ham can beat United in the next round -> oust them from the European competition zone -> sack Ten Hag  Roll Eyes

No doubt that. The competition is just getting even striter than before and manchester city was just losing more and more points. That's why it was falling to bigger odds. It seems bookies will be doing revision on the city's odds once it will be facing another bad result in upcoming match. Manchester city is not having big gap to the arsenal and liverpool. I remember that this situation was also happening last season but city has managed to make its comeback.

Manchester city is performing so well during the early season but it's trying so hard to leave from the bad performance that is happening when city faces very busy schedules. The peformance from the club is obviously unpredictable.
I don't know the reason bookies quoted arsenal to be even more favorite compared to the liverpool while arsenal was always bottled it at the end of season.

It seems bookies is thinking arsenal can learn from the previous mistake this season. Westham was a counter attack specialist. As long as it will be doing parking bus and im sure westham is going to win the game soon.
I would like to pick double chance for this match.

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December 18, 2023, 02:09:11 PM

Everyone believed (you can check the poll) that City will win this season as well, and don't get me wrong they still do have a chance to win the league that's true but they are getting worse and worse.

The injured and missing players are making a huge huge difference, Gvardiol was a great transfer, Doku was just a future transfer and didn't really feel like he is a must get, but compared to that, Laporte who was there for a long time left, Ilkay left, Riyad wasn't playing much anyway but left, Cole Palmer left, Mendy left, De Bruyne injured, Doku now injured, they are really having trouble putting up a decent eleven on the field and that's making them lose way too many points where they shouldn't against teams they were expected to win.

KDB and Ilkay were very important players for Manchester City. They are looking for them a lot this season. But I think Manchester City also have very important problems in defense this season. Crystal Palace attacked very little in the match. But they managed to score 2 goals against Manchester City. I think we should open a parenthesis for Manchester City's defense. They are not as good as last year for sure. Ake and Dias are not good enough for Manchester City. Pep should install Gvardiol in the defense and sign another good stopper alongside him.

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December 18, 2023, 02:10:51 PM

However, Manchester United is the top Premier League team and they have quite a fierce rivalry with Liverpool so this draw is quite fair in my opinion.
And indeed the Manchester United players played quite disciplined in this match, especially their defense line which the Liverpool players were unable to penetrate so that no goals were scored in this match.
In fact, I want to say that the result of this match was unfair for Liverpool, because Liverpool appeared quite convincing in this match but unfortunately they couldn't score a goal because of Onana's best performance. However, whatever the developments, Man United was able to hold Liverpool to a draw at Anfield, namely Man United last season against Man United who were on fire and playing with a full team. Liverpool can beat Man United 7-0, now Man United is under performing and not yet full. Liverpool's team was only able to hold on to a draw. Hopefully in the future Man United can achieve positive results.
A neutral observer would say Liverpool won this match. They controlled the game and played well enough to win. Football isnt always easy, right? Onana's Man United performance was outstanding. He made important saves to keep the score equal, showing how individual performances can change big matches.

However, a team like Man United taking such a defensive approach is strange. Its unusual for a club with their history and ambition. It casts doubt on their strategy and league standing. Liverpool must regroup and convert dominance into goals in future games. They've proven capable; now its execution.

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December 18, 2023, 02:14:30 PM

However, Manchester United is the top Premier League team and they have quite a fierce rivalry with Liverpool so this draw is quite fair in my opinion.
And indeed the Manchester United players played quite disciplined in this match, especially their defense line which the Liverpool players were unable to penetrate so that no goals were scored in this match.
Jurgen Klopp was shocked to see the heavy defendlines from Manchester United. I blame Liverpool for drawing points with Manchester United, the Reds got solid spot to win but couldn't convert their chances to goals. Mere watching Luis Diaz overrated performance and couldn't net a goal, instead he was dribbling and failed to pass the ball to his teammates. A goal-less draw we watched. Manchester United was probably not able to withstand the pressure from Liverpool at Anfield. They just got lucky, and this might not happen next time.

I think Manchester United are not just lucky because after all, the reality is that Manchester United only focus on playing defense in this match. Therefore, with the focus made by Manchester United only to play defense then yes, Manchester United managed not to lose this match because of the success of the tactics and strategies they applied.

But for the results that Liverpool got then yes, I think this draw is a bad result and may also be a pretty disappointing result. How not, Liverpool had very good dominance in this match but yes, Liverpool failed to score in this match and the match only ended in a draw and also without a goal.

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Everyone believed (you can check the poll) that City will win this season as well, and don't get me wrong they still do have a chance to win the league that's true but they are getting worse and worse.

The injured and missing players are making a huge huge difference, Gvardiol was a great transfer, Doku was just a future transfer and didn't really feel like he is a must get, but compared to that, Laporte who was there for a long time left, Ilkay left, Riyad wasn't playing much anyway but left, Cole Palmer left, Mendy left, De Bruyne injured, Doku now injured, they are really having trouble putting up a decent eleven on the field and that's making them lose way too many points where they shouldn't against teams they were expected to win.
Man City opportunity to defend the title this season is still quite open, because we know the difference in the standings is only 5 points behind Arsenal. Liverpool failed to return to the top after being held to a draw by Man United, and allowed the Gunners to take over their position temporarily. Regarding the situation faced by Pep Guardiola squad, I think City will recover quickly.

It cannot be denied that the absence of mainstay players in the main squad makes it difficult for Pep to carry out his strategy, some of the back up players are not yet capable enough to fill the positions left temporarily. Moreover, the departure of the old faces who won the treble winners last season is now starting to be felt, Pep must maintain the team spirit to be able to maintain its dominance this season.

I'm sure the competition will be tougher in the second half, and City will have to immediately dance their way out of their performance. Because I see Arsenal suppressing City dominance by beating them, and Liverpool forcing City to share points. That is why Pep must be more alert this season and must not think that Arsenal will lose their consistency again at the end of the season.
Last season, there was a time Arsenal had a better point difference than they currently have against Manchester City in the English Premier League title but Manchester City somehow still ended up winning the English Premier League at the end of last season. However, considering the current performance of Manchester City and how they've performed since the start of the season, I don't think the current Manchester City squad are capable of repeating that same feat of last season. The Manchester City team has not been as impressive as they were last season which earned the the treble and unless they improve their performance in the upcoming games of the league, they might not even finish the season in the top of of the league.

Recently, their star striker Erling Haaland picked up an injury that's kept him out for the past two weeks while their midfield maestro Kelvin De Bruyne has been out since the start of the season but I believe if the two players comes back to full fitness, the club is gonna improve significantly in their performance.

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December 18, 2023, 02:23:17 PM

You are right there is nothing we can expect from Chelsea this season everything seemed impossible to them moreover, having to fight for the top 5 positions is clearly more difficult,
With Chelsea's current performance, they can’t end the season in the top 5. If Pochettino will still be in Chelsea till next season, maybe we will expect a better performance from him, and maybe he will be able to end the season in a better position, but Chelsea have been inconsistent this season, which really affected them. Sometimes you will think Chelsea are in form, and they will be winning any club that comes their way, but they will perform poorly in some matches, nothing special will be coming out of Chelsea this season.

By the way Liverpool messed up my parlay yesterday Liverpool played very convincingly from the first half and continued in the second half but unfortunately there were no goal, I don't know what happened even though they dominated the match from the first half. With this draw, Liverpool had to drop to 2nd place but yeah Liverpool has a chance to take over the standings when the two teams have to fight each other on December 24, I hope Liverpool as the home team does not waste this opportunity or they will find it increasingly difficult to retake first place.
Liverpool disappointed lots of people. Most people were expecting a win from them in the match, but to my greatest surprise, they dominated the match but they couldn’t score. What most people needed in the match was a win from Liverpool. A higher percentage of people placed a bet on Liverpool to win the match. Most people will be losing their bet just because of the draw that Liverpool played yesterday.

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December 18, 2023, 02:28:50 PM

No doubt that. The competition is just getting even striter than before and manchester city was just losing more and more points. That's why it was falling to bigger odds. It seems bookies will be doing revision on the city's odds once it will be facing another bad result in upcoming match. Manchester city is not having big gap to the arsenal and liverpool. I remember that this situation was also happening last season but city has managed to make its comeback.

Manchester city is performing so well during the early season but it's trying so hard to leave from the bad performance that is happening when city faces very busy schedules. The peformance from the club is obviously unpredictable.
I don't know the reason bookies quoted arsenal to be even more favorite compared to the liverpool while arsenal was always bottled it at the end of season.

It seems bookies is thinking arsenal can learn from the previous mistake this season. Westham was a counter attack specialist. As long as it will be doing parking bus and im sure westham is going to win the game soon.
I would like to pick double chance for this match.
In my opinion, a team whose performance declines in one season is normal, even Manchester City experienced this situation last season, but it comes back to the team how they can handle it and recover quickly.
If you look at the overall Manchester City squad, there are a few changes and it is not any better than last season, so there is a decline in performance that occurs when their match schedule is busy and also several of their main players are injured.

Competition at the top of the Premier League standings is always fierce, but this season there are several top teams that have similar qualities, making it possible for even fiercer competition to occur.

Arsenal and Liverpool are strong and consistent teams at the moment but it is possible for Man City to catch up, but we also have to see several teams that are ready to disrupt the top Premier League teams like Aston Villa has done so far, this is what makes it even more interesting. .

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Arsenal have managed to get through this week without any losses.They are playing well as a team and have managed to get into plenty of positions against their opponents.I thought Brighton would give them a hard time, but they didn't give them much of a challenge.Arsenal managed to find 26 shots against their opponents and converted 2 of them into goals.It is important for them to continue to maintain their lead because their fans want success now. This season is very competitive and it seems that the struggle will continue until the last week.The points difference is very close and even Aston Villa is in this race.They also won the match against Brentford despite going behind.We can say that Brentford's 10 men in the second half played a role in winning the match.They got 3 points with 2 goals between 77th and 85th minutes in the second half.
I don't think Arsenal manage to got the victory they got yesterday to beat their opponent 2:0 to moved up to first position despite the gap between them and Liverpool is just 2 points different and, the 2 teams has show some signs yesterday that make people to believed that Arsenal will win this trophy this season. Liverpool make people to loss their bet yesterday because, people bet for their favour to win Manchester united but Manchester united show them some strength that make the game to ended up draw 0:0 that make Liverpool to drop down to second position in the premier league table.

Brentford players have some problem in this season because, they will draw today in some games and loss on some games that is giving other teams to achieved points to be ahead of them in this season and, it will make them not to come close to 5th position in this season if their coach don't do some thing to improve them.

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West ham defeated Wolverhampton with 3 goals to add 3 points to their tally.Wolverhampton played better than West Ham despite being away.They struggled to get to the end and this led them to defeat.
In the most important match of the day, Liverpool and Manchester United played to a goalless draw.Although Liverpool managed to put pressure on their opponent, they had trouble scoring goals.Manchester United struggled to even get into position.Liverpool had 34 shots throughout the match and it was a pity for them that the match ended without a goal.ManU, on the other hand, drew in a match for the first time in 17 matches in the league.

 
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Arsenal have managed to get through this week without any losses.They are playing well as a team and have managed to get into plenty of positions against their opponents.I thought Brighton would give them a hard time, but they didn't give them much of a challenge.Arsenal managed to find 26 shots against their opponents and converted 2 of them into goals.It is important for them to continue to maintain their lead because their fans want success now. This season is very competitive and it seems that the struggle will continue until the last week.The points difference is very close and even Aston Villa is in this race.They also won the match against Brentford despite going behind.We can say that Brentford's 10 men in the second half played a role in winning the match.They got 3 points with 2 goals between 77th and 85th minutes in the second half.
You said Arsenal manage to get through without any losses this week. Indirectly you mean that they were lucky and they do not deserve the points they successfully attain. Arsenal had performed well in their last two matches in both league. In the UCL they played against PSV and it was an easy one for Arsenal and yesterday they played against Brighton at Emirate. We all know that it was not easy for Brighton to beat the gunners especially at Emirate.

Good thing they are back on top of the table, after Manchester United has a draw with Liverpool. We hope Arsenal continues to stay on top till the league ends. The fans are hungry for the EPL title, because its been years they had a taste of that feeling of being an EPL winners.

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It is not a failure for Liverpool because Manchester united have increased their focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. After being eliminated from the Champions League, Erik ten hag was of course under a lot of pressure to improve Manchester united so they could get points in the matches they played. Yes, they managed to withstand the attacks carried out by liverpool and managed to secure a point at Anfield. Even though it's not a good record, Manchester united can avoid defeat in this match because if their defense is not strong, Liverpool can certainly score goal in this match, but Onana performed better in this match by not conceding.

Unfortunately for Liverpool because last week they were able to lead the standing but they were not strong enough to maintain it. After watching the matches this week, I saw that many teams had swapped places with each other on the standing. Even in the lower teams, Everton is increasingly confident by winning consecutive match in the last 4 match which has kept them away from the relegation zone.
I won't really blame Liverpool for yesterday's match result against United. First, record has it that they've not really been much goal scorers against United at Anfield and technically, sometimes game results are in line with old time records. Also United lost their advancement to the UCL round of 16, and have also lost their last game against Bournemouth. They only needed to find a way to cover up those loopholes.

 They did good in that regard no doubt, at least they avoided another 3points shortage. For Liverpool, they've been good this season and still have possibilities to gaining more points so maybe the result wasn't expected but it shouldn't stop them from pushing to do better in subsequent games. Yes, the share of point isn't needed at this time but it just have to be made up for. They've got a battle for the top spot and they need not take chances. Their focus are in two trophies, so they have to keep their games in mind and not slack back again.
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The EPL is always a surprising competition because matches that could have been won ended in a draw. Here, Liverpool is clearly the favorite to win against Manchester United, but it seems that even against their rivals, Manchester United doesn't want to be careless and also pay attention to their back line so they don't concede easily. Even though in the end both teams did not score a single goal in this match, they both played very well. Maybe initially everyone thought that Manchester United would lose badly to Liverpool, but Andre Onana's performance in this match was silenced because he was seen repeatedly making saves when Liverpool had a chance to score.

On the other hand, Manchester United also seemed to be using a bus parking strategy and in fact they realized that was the only thing they could do against Liverpool who were in their best performance. For Manchester United, being able to still get 1 point is a good thing, but for Liverpool this is clearly a loss because they failed to maintain the top position this week and the top position is now occupied by Arsenal.

Previously, I actually had another assumption, in the previous post I said that this match would be tough. and it was proven, both teams were unable to score goals. we are well aware that Liverpool is superior, especially referring to the odds that the bookie gives United at @10.00. that's why, I took the risk to bet on United. I'm not just interested in the odds available, but these two teams have quite a long history. this match also involves the prestige of both parties. unfortunately, Rasmus Hojlund was unable to take advantage of the momentum when facing the Liverpool goalkeeper. In the end, Alisson was able to secure the ball easily. It should have been an important moment for Hojlund and also his first goal.

Talking about the course of this match, Liverpool should be able to beat Man United with the many opportunities they have. Just imagine, there were 34 total shots taken by the Red players. but only 1 was a big chance, even though 8 of them were shots on target. unfortunately, the performance of Manchester United's defensive line players was solid. Plus, Onana was the savior in this match. in fact, he made 8 saves. I'm sure there are many people who lost their bets on this match, whether they chose Liverpool or Over, let alone those who chose United like I did. In fact, United had several opportunities even though their chances were few. However, it is clear that their opportunities are quite threatening. unfortunately, usually when United counterattack, the probability of them scoring a goal is quite high. maybe also because Bruno was absent from this match.  and what is certain is that I also lost in this bet even though I actually had the Under option. well, for me United don't park buses like Mourinho. the problem was, Amrabat wasn't playing well enough. so the ball cannot be flowed properly. Likewise with Garnacho, he underperformed. Antony, didn't do much. On the other hand, Liverpool appeared all out and it was a shame that this match ended with a final score of 0-0.
Talking about odds, Manchester United is like a weak team like Sheffield or Burnley and it must be admitted that this is all because of the incomplete composition of the Red Devils squad. We know that many players are injured and facing Liverpool at full strength it is certainly impossible for Manchester United to win. Therefore, the bookie gives very big odds for Manchester United because of the weaknesses in their squad.

But unfortunately, as you said, Liverpool have repeatedly taken shots but none of them have resulted in a goal and of course anyone who bets on Liverpool winning with very small odds also loses their money in this match. However, if someone bets on the Manchester United/draw double chance, they will definitely be very happy because at least they still get quite big odds. Manchester United's players were too devastated and there was nothing to hope for and therefore a draw was the best achievement they could get against Liverpool.
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December 18, 2023, 03:00:27 PM

No doubt that. The competition is just getting even striter than before and manchester city was just losing more and more points. That's why it was falling to bigger odds. It seems bookies will be doing revision on the city's odds once it will be facing another bad result in upcoming match. Manchester city is not having big gap to the arsenal and liverpool. I remember that this situation was also happening last season but city has managed to make its comeback.

Manchester city is performing so well during the early season but it's trying so hard to leave from the bad performance that is happening when city faces very busy schedules. The peformance from the club is obviously unpredictable.
I don't know the reason bookies quoted arsenal to be even more favorite compared to the liverpool while arsenal was always bottled it at the end of season.

It seems bookies is thinking arsenal can learn from the previous mistake this season. Westham was a counter attack specialist. As long as it will be doing parking bus and im sure westham is going to win the game soon.
I would like to pick double chance for this match.
In my opinion, a team whose performance declines in one season is normal, even Manchester City experienced this situation last season, but it comes back to the team how they can handle it and recover quickly.
If you look at the overall Manchester City squad, there are a few changes and it is not any better than last season, so there is a decline in performance that occurs when their match schedule is busy and also several of their main players are injured.

Competition at the top of the Premier League standings is always fierce, but this season there are several top teams that have similar qualities, making it possible for even fiercer competition to occur.

Arsenal and Liverpool are strong and consistent teams at the moment but it is possible for Man City to catch up, but we also have to see several teams that are ready to disrupt the top Premier League teams like Aston Villa has done so far, this is what makes it even more interesting. .

Yes, we have to admit that Aston Villa is also in the spotlight with its impressive performance so far. Their ability to disrupt top teams has added an interesting dynamic to the competitive league. Villa's success shows that not only traditional teams are able to compete at the top, teams that might be considered underdogs can also compete at the top.

With a variety of competitions, the Premier League is increasingly interesting to follow. This gives fans the opportunity to witness tighter and more unpredictable matches. The depth of quality among the top teams and positive performances from the likes of Aston Villa adds an element of surprise and unpredictability to the road to the title.

As an EPL fan, I see that several top teams have similar qualities so they promise tougher competition. Arsenal and Liverpool are two teams that stand out with strong and consistent performances. However, Man City is still a serious threat and is able to catch them, this is proven by Man City several seasons ago who managed to catch them and become champions.
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However, Manchester United is the top Premier League team and they have quite a fierce rivalry with Liverpool so this draw is quite fair in my opinion.
And indeed the Manchester United players played quite disciplined in this match, especially their defense line which the Liverpool players were unable to penetrate so that no goals were scored in this match.
In fact, I want to say that the result of this match was unfair for Liverpool, because Liverpool appeared quite convincing in this match but unfortunately they couldn't score a goal because of Onana's best performance. However, whatever the developments, Man United was able to hold Liverpool to a draw at Anfield, namely Man United last season against Man United who were on fire and playing with a full team. Liverpool can beat Man United 7-0, now Man United is under performing and not yet full. Liverpool's team was only able to hold on to a draw. Hopefully in the future Man United can achieve positive results.
A neutral observer would say Liverpool won this match. They controlled the game and played well enough to win. Football isnt always easy, right? Onana's Man United performance was outstanding. He made important saves to keep the score equal, showing how individual performances can change big matches.

However, a team like Man United taking such a defensive approach is strange. Its unusual for a club with their history and ambition. It casts doubt on their strategy and league standing. Liverpool must regroup and convert dominance into goals in future games. They've proven capable; now its execution.
Expecting an easy win as well, but it didn't turn out that way. I've to give credit to Man United's goalkeeper Onana for keeping them to a draw. The game was hard to watch, a dreadful match between two struggling sides on the day. Despite having plenty of chances, Liverpool couldn't secure the win, resulting in a 0-0 draw against Man United at Anfield. It's not the result Liverpool wanted, but they'll move forward to the next game against the Hammers.
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December 18, 2023, 03:13:56 PM

West ham defeated Wolverhampton with 3 goals to add 3 points to their tally.Wolverhampton played better than West Ham despite being away.They struggled to get to the end and this led them to defeat.
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2 goals manage made by Kudus in the first half, seemed to make getting more pressure to Wolves. But ya, indeed, even though Wolves played away and got such great pressure . But in fact, Wolves can still play well at least as evidenced by the statistical records they get in this match, at least it can be assumed that the match runs quite balanced.

But ya, with fairly balanced statistics like this, I guess Wolves should be able to minimize defeat by making goals too in this match . But in fact,Wolves really didn't manage to score a goal in this match and in the end Wolves lose big with a score of 3-0 . At least, with results like this making Wolves still unsuccessful to improve the performance and results they play in away matches so far this season.

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Man City opportunity to defend the title this season is still quite open, because we know the difference in the standings is only 5 points behind Arsenal. Liverpool failed to return to the top after being held to a draw by Man United, and allowed the Gunners to take over their position temporarily. Regarding the situation faced by Pep Guardiola squad, I think City will recover quickly.

It cannot be denied that the absence of mainstay players in the main squad makes it difficult for Pep to carry out his strategy, some of the back up players are not yet capable enough to fill the positions left temporarily. Moreover, the departure of the old faces who won the treble winners last season is now starting to be felt, Pep must maintain the team spirit to be able to maintain its dominance this season.

I'm sure the competition will be tougher in the second half, and City will have to immediately dance their way out of their performance. Because I see Arsenal suppressing City dominance by beating them, and Liverpool forcing City to share points. That is why Pep must be more alert this season and must not think that Arsenal will lose their consistency again at the end of the season.
Last season, there was a time Arsenal had a better point difference than they currently have against Manchester City in the English Premier League title but Manchester City somehow still ended up winning the English Premier League at the end of last season. However, considering the current performance of Manchester City and how they've performed since the start of the season, I don't think the current Manchester City squad are capable of repeating that same feat of last season. The Manchester City team has not been as impressive as they were last season which earned the the treble and unless they improve their performance in the upcoming games of the league, they might not even finish the season in the top of of the league.

Recently, their star striker Erling Haaland picked up an injury that's kept him out for the past two weeks while their midfield maestro Kelvin De Bruyne has been out since the start of the season but I believe if the two players comes back to full fitness, the club is gonna improve significantly in their performance.
It seems I have to agree with you, injury problems are the main factor in City inconsistency, and I also think they have to maintain their thirst for titles, so they can get back on track. The increasing strength of Arsenal, Liverpool and teams like Aston Villa complicates City move back to the top of the standings.

If Tottenham, Newcastle and United bounce back, then the competition for the top four will be even tighter. Maybe Pep needs new players to add strength in the second half of the season, and the January transfer window could be the right solution in this case. Regarding money, I don't think Pep needs to ask management for it, he just needs to submit a list of players he is targeting.

In fact, if City wins the EPL trophy again in a row, then the EPL will most likely be like the Bundesliga or Ligue 1. Because we only see the level of competition which is competitive, but at the end of the season we will see City lift the trophy again. Over time we will get bored too, I think that makes sense.

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However, a team like Man United taking such a defensive approach is strange. Its unusual for a club with their history and ambition. It casts doubt on their strategy and league standing.
I think Ten Haag was more focused on not getting more embarrassed so I didn't find it unusual to be honest. You can notice how United cannot really find a good mix of offense and defense. They can score if they open up but they are also prone for allowing many goals and we've seen that a lot in their previous CL matches this season. The same thing could have happened against Liverpool if Ten Haag decided a more offensive approach.
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However, a team like Man United taking such a defensive approach is strange. Its unusual for a club with their history and ambition. It casts doubt on their strategy and league standing.
I think Ten Haag was more focused on not getting more embarrassed so I didn't find it unusual to be honest. You can notice how United cannot really find a good mix of offense and defense. They can score if they open up but they are also prone for allowing many goals and we've seen that a lot in their previous CL matches this season. The same thing could have happened against Liverpool if Ten Haag decided a more offensive approach.
Yes you are right, man utd was very cautious with their approach to the game, the 7-0 lose the last time is still fresh in the back of their minds, so to me it quite logical that they took such approach due to their defensive frailties this season.
If they had come out toe too toe with Liverpool they would have scored a goal, but they would have lost whole fully.











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